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11 Oct 2017 21:16:07
I think Ward needs to be given his chance, Migs has been quite poor and I think Karius is weak mentally. Ward has played a full season last year and looks to be the most stable of our keepers, doing everything well.
Klopp is making a mistake continuing with Migs in PL and I hope he rectifies that sooner rather than later. A good consistent keeper might bring some confidence to the back four and that sure as hell isn't Migs.

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11 Oct 2017 21:56:17
I love Klopp but I have to agree he is making a mistake putting Migs in ahead of Ward and Karius. Personally Id rotate the two, I think Karius lacks confidence, should he be given more of a chance and have more support he may well be a surprise to us all. Ward is still young, If I was in his shoes, should I not be given a chance this season, for the best of his career id be off, he deserves his chance.

11 Oct 2017 22:39:17
I've been saying it for weeks WARD should be given a run of games see how he gets on and don't forget he was on loan all season at Huddersfield and who's there manager klopps best friend David wagner surely he must of spoken on how ward preformed each week. its beyond me how mignolet still gets picked.

12 Oct 2017 01:44:17
Surely klopp picks the keeper who performs best in practice.

12 Oct 2017 07:30:48
What do you know that suggests Karius is "weak mentally"?

Maybe lacks confidence from the way klopp gives him the odd random game but that not the same.

For me klopp should have had the balls to stick with karius but the set up of the defence would leave ANY keeper exposed.

{Ed001's Note - when has Karius ever shown a lack of confidence even? If anything his problem is overconfidence, dallying on the ball because he thinks he is good enough to deal with onrushing attackers.}

12 Oct 2017 10:34:46
Karius' only weakness seems to be his shot stopping. So far, the defense looks more assured with him in goal and he is also quick off his line and dealing with crosses pretty well. He just needs a run of games to settle down but not sure the fans have the patience to tolerate more GK mistakes after the Migs' showings over the past 4 seasons.

12 Oct 2017 10:44:01
If you think Karius lacks confidence then you know nothing about him or Germans in general. Germans are always successful in football BECAUSE of their cast iron confidence in their abilities. Karius is very confident in his ability as he was successful in Germany and was a big reason Mainz got EL footie for the first time in their history due to his good performances in goal. GK position is like the QB position in the NFL. Self confidence is a BIG requirement. If you are not confident in your ability then pls, step aside and let someone else play the position.
That much we do know.

Many may see that as a turn off BUT to me, it is not cos at least Karius believes in himself. I'd take him over a GK like Migs who is terrified each time the ball comes in his box and scares the crap out of the defenders as his lack of self confidence is staggering. Karius is lacking in experience at the PL level which can only be gotten by getting more games and playing regularly. Same with Ward.

12 Oct 2017 12:36:23
I don't know why we did'nt consider putting Karius on loan to gain experience, he's only young and would have come back stronger. Ward is an able deputy. Mignolet's shot stopping has been better but it's the marshalling of defence and leadership weakness that's let's him down. He finished last season strong, Klopp assumed problem solved but I feel Migs has regressed again.
The PL season is only 7 games old, Just settle on a GK strategy, live with the outcomes, fix in January if required. simples.

{Ed002's Note - Buying a goalkeeper in January is incredibly difficult.}

12 Oct 2017 12:40:18
"Karius' only weakness seems to be his shot stopping".

Is that important for a keeper?

12 Oct 2017 14:07:32
Not comparing any of our other keepers to Migs, I said a Migs needs to be dropped immediately and sold at the end of the season if it was my choice. That leaves us with two options now, I personally think a Karius buckled under the pressure last season and looked as bad as Migs. Yes he is young and that’s probably a big part of it. Yes he has a poor defense in front of him but that’s what we are stuck with until next summer. I believe Ward is calmer and more suite, at the moment, to come into the team and provide a much better service than Karius would as I feel he will buckle again. It’s my opinion, please stop with the Migs comparisons, we all agree he’s very poor so question is who should go in and take his place.
I also disagree with swapping them in and out, pick a goal keeper and a set back 4 and let's see if we can get them to gel.

12 Oct 2017 18:22:53
Mignolet has got to be taken out of the team, imo. A good lad by all accounts, but he isn't good enough. We have this amazing knack for conceding from the first shot the opposition get, and whilst he's far from the sole reason for this, he does contribute to it quite a bit. His shot stopping isn't great, his positioning is hit and miss, he sells himself all the time on 1v1s and we're all well familiar with his lack of passing ability.

As for Karius vs. Ward, I don't really know because I didn't watch Ward at Huddersfield and he hasn't played much for us. I'd definitely think they're both better than Migs and have more scope to improve, though. Karius hasn't done himself much good with a poor error against Spartak, but it's one in three games vs. Migs who you wonder about on every other goal we concede. I also wonder if Karius had played more than half a dozen or so competitive matches this calendar year, would he have made the error. He reacted slowly, as if he need a split second to decide whether to dive for it from his standing position (which was a half step too far to his right, imo) or take a step first and then dive. That's the sort of thing that would be instinctive if he'd been playing regularly.

I definitely think we need to put one goalie in, be it Ward or Karius, and run with him both in the Prem and CL, and come the FA Cup 3rd round in Jan we can judge should the other one get a game. Other teams can use a different goalie in the Prem and CL because they have an established no. 1 of the quality they require and a capable no. 2. We don't have that luxury.

12 Oct 2017 19:22:26
Goal keeping position is like QB in NFL 🤦🏻‍♂.

13 Oct 2017 00:02:20
Is over confidence a mental weakness?







 

 

 
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