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15 Oct 2017 16:23:09
Now if Lovren had just done what VVD did just now he'd be getting slated (Southampton Newcastle game)

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15 Oct 2017 16:52:40
Speaking of the same game, Lascelles is playing well again, I think we should have a look at him. He’s a very good defender, a leader and decent organiser.

15 Oct 2017 16:57:12
Vvd is bang average, we spend 75 mill on him is will become the worst but in premier league history, the lack of decent centre backs is worrying.

15 Oct 2017 17:16:57
Shelvey just magnificent passer of the ball! Another Benitez signing! Call him whatever, the lad is terrific passer!

15 Oct 2017 17:20:19
I am of the opinion that lovren and VVD are very similar players. Both jump out of defence and would be both as bad in playing a high line we play. They both make mad rash challenges when completely unnecessary and can't do as the manager has told them to.

15 Oct 2017 18:05:38

Yet Klopp is adamant on him and ONLY HIM!

15 Oct 2017 19:14:56
Their is a major difference between playing a high line and park the bus as most prem teams play now. Either buy a centre back from a team that play a high line or one that can adapt and listen to instructions. VVD isn't suited to a high line with the challenges he makes and would get caught out.

15 Oct 2017 20:00:37
We won't get him anyway, I really believe that as well. Not only will Southampton be stubborn again, Barcelona and Juve are looking at him as well. He won't be a Liverpool player. If and a big if we do get him, it wouldn't be in Jan IMO.

15 Oct 2017 20:40:45
Lascalles plays in a system where they park the bus. We don't play that way so bringing him in will yield the same woeful results that Everton is now seeing after Michael Keane played in an ultra defensive setup at Burnley. Like Nath said, we play a high line so get a CB who can play in that system or get one in who can be coached to play in that system otherwise, move on. As for VVD, I am concerned with his level of play right now as his mistakes are starting to mount. Is it cos he does not wanna play for them anymore hence he's downing tools or is he as rash as he looks? I don't know. I had my reservations about VVD last season BUT right now, he simply does not look bothered.

15 Oct 2017 22:10:53
VvD was playing entire game not interested. like the first 25 mins of Couts yesterday.

VVD would be another bad signing and would be pivotal of Klopps reign.

Yes, sad that Shelvy has good passing range decent game intelligence to go with his attitude issues. If that could be set right, he could be leading eng midfield for sure. He is bettet than most of them out there.

Was nice to see Pelligrino and Rafa againt one another.


15 Oct 2017 23:21:15
Harry I’m sure there’s loads of CBs that Klopp would like to sign but they have to a) be available for transfer b) want to come to us, and c) be at a price we can afford. VVD was the only one who ticked all of the above boxes of the CBs that we wanted to sign. End of. Stop using that as a stick to beat the manager with.

16 Oct 2017 02:21:17
Give him a chance,
He's been out injured since January and is definitley playing within himself,
Add in all our nonsense during the transfer window and its no wonder he's below par,

16 Oct 2017 06:00:01

Why don’t you name a few or read the post or check with the editors who we were interested! Lol!
The fact is there weren’t any! Koulibaly was the only one we were interested and that went no where!
Klop wants VVD! Either you accept Klopp is chasing a medicore, terrible, out of position Center backs, or change your opinion on the player!

Lol VVD would cost us in the excess of £70 mill and you claim he ticks all the boxes including FAIR TRANSFER FEE!

Your obsession over Klopp is a LOL!

16 Oct 2017 07:45:44
The fact a load of grown men are saying LOL is enough to make me laugh out loud ;)

16 Oct 2017 09:12:01
Napoli plays a high line and they score for absolute fun. Their defense is good if you compare it to their high line high attacking set up. But unlike us they don't complicate the midfield by playing hard core B2B players all over the pitch. They okay a specialist Holding mid which helps them to sweep the first and immediate danger thrown at to them. They also have a very good keeper ad two good full backs.

Are there any other team in Europe who plays high line? Let’s not buy anyone coz there aren't any!

16 Oct 2017 10:57:38
Harry, several teams in Germany alone, play the high line. The German national team plays the high line as well and so do Barca.



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