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31 Oct 2017 07:43:23
Hi Ed01

How roberto baggio, Christian vieri, makalele, puyol and shevchenko?

{Ed001's Note - Baggio was in but added the others thank you.}

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31 Oct 2017 08:22:23
I'm sure he is but just have to double check Ed001 mate is Eusebio on the list?

{Ed001's Note - yes defo on the list.}

31 Oct 2017 08:30:51
Thought he would be, had to be :) cheers mate.

{Ed001's Note - pleasure, I am looking forward to his one as I never saw him play but heard so much about him.}

31 Oct 2017 08:58:35
Me too mate I was reading a few bits about him and I too never saw him play but seemed like one hell of a player, definitely one I'd like to know more about.

{Ed001's Note - me ma always used to go on about him so I am guessing he was top class.}

31 Oct 2017 09:17:04
No doubt mate. I don't know how accurate it is but according to Wiki 580 goals in 575 appearances, that's pretty special. Some people call him the best ever, I can't argue against it because as I say I never say him play but can understand why some may think that going on what I've read which granted isn't alot, so I look forward to your research on him.

By the looks of things he was incredible from 1959-75 then started to decline when he left Benfica but what a run he had! Good luck on the research mate I can't wait for this one.

{Ed001's Note - the trouble with the older players is there is very little, if any footage of them playing to watch.}

31 Oct 2017 10:00:21
Curious to hear thoughts on some older Croatian players and if you think any of them might be able to find a place on"the list. "
Davor Suker
Zvonimir Boban
Robert Prosinecki
Alen Boksic.

{Ed001's Note - all of them make it mate. Class players all.}

31 Oct 2017 10:16:13
You're right, Ed. I read an article about the famed Austrian National team of the thirties that used to be known as "De Wunder Team". It is believed that they were the Hungarian National team before it's time, who swept all before them in that era YET very few people know about them and clearly, there is NO footage of them if any.

On another note, I loved both Vieri and Baggio. Baggio IMO, created the "false 9" or the "9 and a half" position (a striker/ playmaker behind the CF) . He was simply brilliant. Watched him at the 1990 WC where he introduced himself to the world and became the world's most expensive player when he moved to Juve from Fiorentina.

This departure forced a fans protest in Fiorentina as they were furious about his departure. At Juve, he was brilliant throughout and I will always remember him at the 1994 WC where he played a whole WC on pain killers (due to a thigh injury) and dragged a pathetic Italian team to the final and kept Arrigo Sacchi in a job. Finished his career at Brescia (with a certain Pep Guardiola) where he helped create the late-bloomer YET equally lethal Luca Toni (as he played behind him) . They don't call him "The Devine Ponytail" for no reason.

{Ed001's Note - you do realise Dalglish was playing that position in the 70s?}

31 Oct 2017 10:20:07
Great players there, AB. I saw that exciting Croatian team play at Euro 96 and at France 98 WC. They were brilliant from top to bottom (the GK was a bit dodgy tho) . France were very lucky to beat them in the semis and Germany only beat them in the quarters at the Euros with a goal that should have been disallowed for a foul on the brilliant LB Robert Jarni.

31 Oct 2017 10:27:22
Cheers Ed mate!
I honestly thought Croatia was going to win the '98 World Cup.
Imagine Thuram scoring 3 goals in his career, 2 of them in WC semi's against Croatia. heartbroken we were.
Allthough Boksic was mainly injured and didn't play for Cro in big tournaments, loved the player and he had a fantastic reputation in the then super strong Serie A.
Suker's goal against Denmark (P. Schmeichel) was class, what a touch he had with that left foot, too bad he's only a marionette at the football association atm.
My fav was Boban. Down to earth and a mastermind in midfield. And a brave lad with "the kick" when he defended Dinamo's supporters from policemen.
Prosinecki played for both Barcelona and Real 'nuff said imo. even tho he was a heavy smoker haha.

{Ed001's Note - didn't Boksic end up at Boro at some point?}

31 Oct 2017 10:34:43
Oh, I know KK played there, Ed. I just was not as familiar with that role as I would later become in the 90's.

31 Oct 2017 10:34:56
Cheers Loris!
Oh man that brings memories!
Ladic was a dodgy keeper haha.
Forgot about Jarni, what a leftie that guy had and that goal against Germany was class (revenge for Euro's)
To think that Real had him and roberto Carlos for left back at one point. crazy.

31 Oct 2017 10:38:47
Yes he did Ed. They paid top money for him but he was already past his best, getting older and as far as I can recall didn't do too well.
Prosinecki did well for Portsmouth tho, kinda paving way for them to purchase Kranjcar later.

{Ed001's Note - cheers mate.}

31 Oct 2017 10:58:41
Dragan Stoikovic (Spelling) Yugoslav paleyer who played for Marsellies the same time as Abede Pele, Jean Pierre Papin and of course Waddle. He played for Red Star Belgrade prior to that. I always remember watching him and thinking he was special.

31 Oct 2017 11:03:07
Happy to say that I saw eusebio against North Korea in the 66 world cup at goodison treated to some great players that year in Liverpool including pele.

31 Oct 2017 12:00:19
That must've been some experience Tc77 :)

31 Oct 2017 12:02:33
Jones and AB, you guys are going to make me cry with nostalgia with all the Cro and Yugoslavian legends of yester-year. The former Yugoslavian national team in the 70's were known as the "Brazilians of Europe" as they were the most technically gifted players in Europe. Players like Stoijkovic (Pixie was his nickname), Mihailovic, Darko Pancev were part of the Red Star Belgrade team that won the CL by beating the legendary OM team of Boli, Abedi Pele, Jean Pierre Papin (JPP for short) and the like.

When they split into Yugoslavia and Croatia, the Slavs would give us Stoikovic, Stankovic, Mijatovic, Drulovic etc. Croatians like Boban, Suker, Jarni, Prosinecki, Stanic, Boksic, Asanovic. Slovenia gave us Zlatko Zahovic, Miran Pavlin and Udovic (ex Spurs) and so on. Many have wondered what team Yugoslavia would have had had that civil war not ravaged the old Yugoslavia cos clearly, the derth of talent looks endless.

{Ed025's Note - good knowledge there loris..

31 Oct 2017 12:04:16
Eusebio in short, was a true force of nature. It's that simple.

31 Oct 2017 14:03:37
My old man used to talk about him a lot. Said he was the best in the world. He was fickle though and would claim cruyff was the best the next day.

I'm taking it cruyff is on the list ed my mate.

{Ed001's Note - yes mate.}



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