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31 Oct 2017 12:20:59
If Lovren is picked tomorrow night I hope all Liverpoool supporters get behind him and I mean all. Some of the stuff that is emerging is just vile and disgusting from what must be the dregs of society.

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31 Oct 2017 12:58:49
I still have faith in lovren! Let's be honest, we have only conceded three goals at anfield this season (I think)

{Ed025's Note - but 15 away superred, thats whats known as blind faith mate..

31 Oct 2017 13:07:15
Gotta burst my bubble ed025! He has been woeful at times but has looked decent at times also.

{Ed025's Note - he looked southampton superred, but since being at liverpool he has resembled mr bean for me mate..

31 Oct 2017 13:11:52
Still no need for death threats pathetic human beings.

{Ed025's Note - lowest of the low kloppers..

31 Oct 2017 13:17:16
I Think we can sign some defenders as backup options from Everton when they get relegated.

{Ed025's Note - would you really want any Eka...except for coleman they are all pants mate..

31 Oct 2017 13:22:42
If Everton get relegated I will post a pic of me and my bird banging in Everton shirts. Not going to happen.

{Ed025's Note - i hope we get relegated now..

31 Oct 2017 13:26:30
Ed025 you would rather watch Chesterfield and morcombe mate. Trust me

31 Oct 2017 13:27:53
Internet tough guys, doubt any of them would dare walk up to Lovren let alone threaten him or his family, bunch of cowards who embarrass themselves.

{Ed025's Note - keyboard warriors KIAK..

31 Oct 2017 13:15:50
Fair enough ed025. I thought you were going to say "he looks good in a reserve tracksuit"

In fairness he gets little to no protection from the fb or the midfield. I think most cbs would struggle in our team atm.

31 Oct 2017 13:51:23
I agree with Ed001. Lovren needs a break from football, i think. Go away, get his head straight, and then come back in his own time. He's not right. I mean he has always been a bit dodgy, but he used to have more good games than bad. That has reversed this season though.

He has a lot on his plate in his private life, and he is really struggling with injury. Playing poorly as a result, won't do his reputation any favours!

31 Oct 2017 15:03:05
Playing at a big club comes with its pressures. If that club is prepared to pay you £100k per week to play under that pressure then you must be able to handle it. If you want to play without pressure, go to Burnley or Brighton and play for less money.
If his head isn't right (due to matters away from football) as a professional, he should be able to put that to one side and he can't do that he needs to be got rid of and a replacement brought in.

31 Oct 2017 15:07:16
He will always get my support, but he isn't good enough for us that's all, but as long as he's at Liverpool I'll support him 100% but MK is right, he needs time out, his head isn't in it at all, no wonder due to the amount he's been through, I feel sorry for the fella.

31 Oct 2017 15:37:44
He's human, getting 100k a week doesn't stop you being worried about your family.
I agree, a break is what's needed. Where's his agent in all of this, could be doing more IMO.

31 Oct 2017 16:07:53

Many players have continued playing and performing through issues like this- Man up and get on with it.

31 Oct 2017 16:29:56
if klopp was a good man manager he would of kept lovren out of the firing line in stead of picking him against Huddersfield and all the abuse he took i mean we all know coutinho didn't have a back injury yet he kept him out till the transfer window shut only my opinion.

31 Oct 2017 16:40:55
'Man up and get on with it' - you obviously haven't a clue what your talking about Supermane, that is all.

31 Oct 2017 18:13:29
Agreed Corleone. I thought we were living in the 21st century where mental illnesses are taken seriously.

Wouldn't tell him to man up and get on with it if he had a broken leg, so why is a problem with your mental well being less important than a problem with your physical well being.

People really don't have a clue. It's not even there fault really. People just aren't educated about this subject. Until you've suffered, you won't understand. I got signed off work for 2 weeks with depression a couple of years ago. I needed more like 3 months but i couldn't afford to take statutory sick pay for that long.

When you're really not feeling right in your head, the worst thing you can possibly do is ignore it. Just like with a physical injury, you'll only make it worse.

31 Oct 2017 18:54:37
MK scouser.
I totally agree with you about mental illness i seen a clinical physcoligist for 18 months after a stroke and I tell you when I say you hit rock bottom you do and because people don't see you with an injury they just take it for granted your fine. maybe a break would do lovren a world of good. enjoy reading your posts. hopfully we get 3 points tomorrow.

31 Oct 2017 19:25:21
People do not seem to understand what these players deal with. Lovren grew up during the Yugoslavian Civil War and he and his fam had to flee Zagreb for Germany as bullets were being rained down upon their city/ village. He was a refugee and just like Luka Modric (who many don't know, is also a refugee who grew up during the war), he was good at footie and footie saved his life and has given the life he has. Money can NEVER change the harrowing experiences pone may have.

This may be coming back to haunt him now and he needs the support of the fans and the club now cos what is affecting him now is MORE important than money and football. The fact that he is able to play is a testament to his character and mental toughness. He does need to be kept out of the team while he resolves his personal issues.

31 Oct 2017 20:19:19
Absolutely MK - I can relate mate after going through issues at one point. Like you say, not enough people are educated about it. They should be, people should know/ understand more about mental illness these days instead of automatically assuming it's nothing and can be shrugged off? it can't be, it's not as if you can take a paracetamol and in half an hour your fine again. It's still a massive problem in regards to not enough people been aware about it not only that but the lack of support for a person whilst they are going through it. Quite sad, it really is.

31 Oct 2017 21:26:41
Great post Loris and Corleone. Glad you got past your issues Corleone. It's hard mate.

I hope you are much better these days redsteve! I can't imagine how horrible having a stroke must be. Wouldn't wish that on anyone. Can totally see how the resulting issues would cause mental illness as well!

Let's hope people will be more understanding of Lovren's situation going forward. As Loris alluded to, recent events may have brought up past demons. Most of us can only imagine the horrors of growing up in a war zone.

31 Oct 2017 22:18:18
MK scouser.
cheers for them kind words its been a hard tough road but with a loving family and the tireless work of hospital staff behind me am getting there also the love of Liverpool fc keeps me going.

01 Nov 2017 02:51:52
The best thing for Lovren is asking for a leave to sort his problems.

01 Nov 2017 07:57:01
You're welcome redsteve. Your story is pretty inspirational by the way. I'm glad you had the support you needed.

01 Nov 2017 08:29:16
As someone who has struggled consistently with depression for most of my life, I can tell you that the worst thing about it is feeling you have to hide it away and put on a brave face because people don't understand. I have had days when it is so bad that I can't work, yet I have to tell them I'm suffering from a mystery bug as they would find it more plausible. There's days when I shouldn't be working, but u put on a face so no one knows. I couldn't imagine dealing with this in the public eye.

01 Nov 2017 08:59:45
Glad you are doing okay, Redsteve. My mum had a stroke as well BUT thanks be to the Lord, she is alive, well and still mentally sharp as a tack. She battled depression as well and has come through as it was destroying her mentally and physically. She had all the support she needed and she is now fine. Glad you, Corleone and MK are doing great now. God bless, my friends!

01 Nov 2017 10:06:19
Horrible isn't it slowdog. I was so thankful when my old boss was understanding of it and gave me a fortnight off on full pay. I was expecting to be laughed at, but he was completely understanding, gave me his private number and offered his advice and support. Sadly he passed away last year from cancer at just 55 (it's always the good ones) . I can't say for sure, but i think he probably saved my life because i was on the verge of doing something stupid.

It's hard though because i don't think most bosses would be that understanding. Best thing to do mate is have a daily routine and force yourself to stick to it, even when it is a massive fight to do so. Keep busy, and try not to leave yourself alone and bored to overthink things. And talk about it to friends and family! Like you say, hiding it makes you feel worse. It is a chemical imbalance in the brain. You cannot help how you feel and there is no such thing as "just man up". There is absolutely no need to be embarrassed and if anybody makes you feel otherwise, they are not worth your time.

Like you say, god knows how Lovren manages this in the public eye, plus having to deal with death threats and people telling him to kill himself. It's disgusting, and a sad indication of how misunderstood mental illness is in football across the board; fans, players and hierarchy.

Thank you by the way Loris.

01 Nov 2017 11:04:55
thanks for your comments so happy your mum has come though her difficulties a stroke is a brain injury and NO one can see it take care. being a top football player having lots of money means nothing if your suffering mental health problems just look at Clarke Carlisle same for lovren he needs support.



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