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08 Nov 2017 06:59:49
Hi guys, Morning. Question for the Eds or anyone else who has an opinion.

Looking at the last three games, they weren't the highest quality teams but not bad, do you think the boys showed enough that we have turned a corner and the team has started clicking? I mean, we did what was expected imo. ok west ham away isn't that easy. I'm really hoping we have. I see a lot of positives atm. Obviously salah is scoring for fun, firmino playing brilliantly, the Ox coming to life and scoring a couple in the last fortnight. Klavan has been pretty solid since he came in, Moreno playing much better. All this without couts (Who I feel may never play for Liverpool again) and Lallana. (I hope i'm wrong about PC

So back to the question. Have Liverpool turned a corner and started clicking or are we going to seriously struggle when facing teams with any real class. We are right back in the UCL mix. not far from the fourth spot and not impossible to catch the leaders.

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08 Nov 2017 07:36:49
I'll sit on the fence and say a definite maybe.

The performances have been good, we've started scoring as many goals as our performance warrants but there's still a few niggles.

West Ham had two or three good scoring opportunities which, had they taken them, could have changed the course of the game.

Basically progress has been made but there's more work to do.

08 Nov 2017 08:31:44
yeah, i'll go with that Putney. I am glad that klopp has shown alternative tactics, when people were accusing him of being a one trick pony. I like the look of us with three CBs, I dunno, it just feels safer seeing joe Gomes back there with matip and co. We have the PERFECT wing backs for that too.

We done arsenal with ease. We need another big win. Chelsea or Seville. I have said this about every game I think but those two games are season definers, win them and we are flying, lose them and we are in deep trouble.

Can I just say how good it was to see Mane fit. what a boost he gives us. Id rather have Mane on the left wing than Coutinio.

08 Nov 2017 08:33:42
You Saw how easily WH produced chances out of nothing, and how much problems we had defending Them. Take into account that they weren't organized and at the moment WH are on course for relegation. We haven't turned a corner, the opposition has just been poor.

08 Nov 2017 08:36:18
I always maintained there was no worries anyway. We had an insane fixture list. If you look at the table we are level on points with Arsenal and Chelsea who have both had slightly easier fixtures than us, and still managed to lose more games. We are now right on United's heels as well and they now have to play all the top half teams against whom, they can at best hope for draws and a couple of 1-0 wins under Jose.

I will put my head on the block and say we'll be in the top 4 by Christmas and win our CL group. City and Spurs are the only teams in the league who are better than us. I reckon we'll do both of them at Anfield anyway. Aside from that, i fear nobody though.

Klopp is showing signs of adapting and the pace of Salah, Mane and Chambo on the pitch together was frightening. I'm not sure if anyone noticed for Salah's first goal, but Chambo sprinted about 90 yards (went past 3 West Ham players) and at the last minute he ran diagonally across the box to pull the last defender away from Salah. He literally bust his gut to get there and then made a completely unselfish run at the end of it so Salah could score. Without touching the ball he was crucial to the goal.

With us having players who can break like that and be so clinical at the end of it in terms of decision making, we now have a weapon we can use against the big teams. We can sit in and then hit them ferociously on the counter. Couple that with the dominance we've shown against lesser teams this season and we could very easily extend our current run to 10-15 games unbeaten. Aside from Chelsea we now play the likes of Stoke, Bournemouth, Swansea, West Brom, Everton and Brighton. We are good enough to win all 6 of those games. The lads have to stay focused and not get complacent of course, but i can definitely see us climbing the table in the next 2 months though.

08 Nov 2017 11:23:43
Redfuzz, this West ham just won 3-2 vs Spurs prior to us. They are no slouch.

08 Nov 2017 08:58:38
RedFuzz, you talk as though we should not allow opposition teams to even get shots away!

No matter how good you are defensively, you cannot protect your goal all game every game. A slip, and slight positional error, a piece of quality from the opposition etc. can lead to a chance. Even with United playing 6-3-1 they still rely on De Gea three or four times a game!

There is a reason why all teams play with Goal keepers. West Ham had one clear cut chance and they took it. They had about 3 half chances which were either saved or missed. We had about 10 other chances aside from the 4 we scored. The reality is, not every chance goes in. If you say "West Ham had enough chances to score 4" you also have to say that "Liverpool had enough chances to score 14".

It's a nonsense argument. You can't completely stop all teams from getting any chances. You can only reduce the chances and put a decent keeper in the goal to stop most of the chances you do give away. You're in a dream world if you're expecting us to dispatch all comers without conceding a shot.

08 Nov 2017 13:02:15
I think its too early to judge but there has been positive signs and if we can get on a run for the 1st time this season, we could climb quickly with things as tight as they are. 4 points off second after a very inconsistent start and hardly had Couts or Mane and Lallana to return. Who knows the possibilities from here?

08 Nov 2017 18:14:49
I agree with you completely, MK. I will agree with Putney that progress has been made BUT a lot more needs to be done and I'm sure Klopp knows that and the good thing is, he takes nothing for granted cos he knows how things can change with one defensive mistake or one chance missed. Let's just keep our heads down and keep chopping wood and surely, things will continue to click for us.



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