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11 Nov 2017 15:24:47
Ed 01, are there any stats about to compare Coutinho to last season. Key ones being distance covered and sprints made during his appearances. It's clear to see he's not playing as well but if it's due to a lack of effort then these stats will confirm that or put it to bed as him being out of form. Would also be interesting to see those stats for his Brazil appearances this season. Ps Keep up the great work with the site.

{Ed002's Note - Why would you see such stats as relevant. Is it better to have run further? Why? Would it be better to have the ball doing the work rather than running around?}

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11 Nov 2017 15:47:31
Ed02 very true that. Was just wondering if there was much difference in his stats this season to last or even when he has played internationals.

{Ed002's Note - I am sure you can find his running about stats somewhere.}

11 Nov 2017 15:49:18
Coz they are trying very hard to make Coutinho a bad influence to the team ed02. What a stupid stat. Now I’ll give you a fact which is more important than anything else. 4 games played. 2 goals scored and 2 assists.
He wants to go so let’s make him a poor player! Brilliant logic!

11 Nov 2017 15:56:33
Ed 02 cheers for taking the time to reply. From them I'm taking that you think running about isn't important in football then 👍.

{Ed002's Note - Players can run about a bit to keep warm in the winter. I don't see anything wrong with that.}

11 Nov 2017 16:13:42
Haha Ed02. Harry I'm not trying to scapegoat anything on Coutinho. I was actually really interested to know. If it turns out he is still breaking a gut then that would actually stop fans scapegoating him. I think a players fitness levels and running stats are extremely important to the modern day manager. I can't think of a player who very rarely runs at a top club.

11 Nov 2017 16:47:27
Imo we put too much emphasis on physical stats. Yes, being fit enough to last an entire game is important, but it can't be to the detriment of players that possess greater technique.

11 Nov 2017 16:52:11
I do understand why you want to know the stats Jayden mate I get what your saying (I don't know them but would indeed be interesting) but stats aside, he's not been good enough, and Harry it isn't because he's leaving why I'm saying this, it's because it's true, if you can't see that then I just don't know. His heart isn't in it and hasn't been since the summer, he wanted out and he has spat his dummy out because he didn't get it his own way, keep defending him all you want, truth is, he's not playing well for us and he will soon be history to which I say thank god going on his behaviour since the summer, we don't need players disrupting the team no matter how good they are. All he's managed to do the past couple of months is prove to us we don't need him, time to cash in on him.

11 Nov 2017 17:27:10
Wait till January if you wanna see him run, he will be running all the way to Barcelona 🏃.

11 Nov 2017 17:38:22

Nothing to do with stats! If he wasn’t forcing a move in the summer and had a terrible start to this season! None would have uttered a word against him! Let’s be very very honest!
All of a sudden people brining up his running stats. Really? Couts was never famous for his hard work on the pitch. It was always about goals, chances created and ability to create magic.

I wish the manager listened to you in the summer and sold him when the money was there for taking rather than the abuse and mocking he is receiving now on his ABILITY!

I wish to god he comes back and score a brace against Southampton on Saturday!

11 Nov 2017 17:51:38
Harry you are trying to make something out of my initial question that isn't there Mate. I'm not trying to bring up his running stats to mock him. It was a general question to compare him to last season. I like Coutinho and want him to stay but I know that it's going to be sooner rather than later that he goes. His game isn't based on running I agree but if last season for example he was averaging 8km a game and this season he has dropped significantly then that picture paints a thousand words. If it's simialr then perhaps that will give the doubters food for thought. At least my question has given us something to debate about I suppose in this international window.

11 Nov 2017 19:05:49
I know of a player who runs a lot. He runs from the hips. All day long and that's it.

11 Nov 2017 19:12:41
Harry, no one is making Cou look like a bad player. He is doing a bang up job of doing that on his own. To me, stats are worthless esp. on this issue. We all have our eyes to see that he was useless vs Burnley and nonexistent vs Spurs as we, might have well have been playing with 10 men in that game as he lost the ball so many times I stopped counting. I wanted Cou to stay as well cos I thought he would do a Suarez and knuckle down at LFC alas, it did not happened. Worse, the fact that Suarez conducted himself more professionally than Cou is doing is damning indictment on him and to those shamelessly supporting him

Remember that Klopp was fed up with Cou near the end of the TW and wanted rid to get Lemar BUT we could not get a replacement so him tanking games or not giving his best is not that surprising. Cou seems to be downing tools and Ed01 (who has been a Cou fan since he arrived) has said that he wants to go and is showing it by not giving his best. If he comes back and scores vs Saints, who cares? It is his job to do his best when he gets on the pitch. What does he want for that, a cookie? Nonsense. Stop defending him cos it is embarrassing.

11 Nov 2017 19:38:11
Exactly loris. Ed01 started this!

11 Nov 2017 20:05:06
And why should I listen to you loris lol. Stop defending him really? You have a reason to hate him! I don’t care nor I am getting into your thoughts. I have my own reason to back him till he is out from the club. You don’t need to impose me! Some of your logic is ridiculous. You don’t care if he scores a brace on Saturday! Why do you jump from your seat when Migs let one in then?
It’s embarassing coz I don’t agree with your stupid thinking lol!

11 Nov 2017 22:17:23
I hate Cou? You really think I take players that seriously. I have no reason to hate anyone on this planet. You have a reason to back him till he leaves. But your pathetic logic falls flat as he does not wanna play for us anymore and he is literally tanking games and not giving his best. That may be okay for you BUT the sane disagree. He is a liability and a distraction and a nuisance, per Ed01's info.

Yes, I don't care if he scores a brace vs Saints cos it won't change a thing cos his attitude sucks. What changed after he scored and assisted vs LC or scored vs Newcastle? NOTHING. He followed that up by tanking the Spurs game. If that is who you choose to back then that personal problem for you. The rest of us disagree and again, the fact that Suarez acted more professionally than Cou did by NEVER tanking games, is a scathing indictment on him and those who shamelessly defend him like you. As for Migs, here's a thing for you: Cou is a nuisance and Migs is crap. Both things can be right at the same time.

11 Nov 2017 23:55:24
So many exclamation marks.



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