Liverpool Rumours Archive August 11 2017

11 Aug 2017 20:33:21
Wonder what macca makes of or the news today? Come on macca give us some good news mate.

11 Aug 2017 20:48:17
He did say it was his opinion that coutinho would stay, not see in stone, in just hoping he's right about VVD and keita.

11 Aug 2017 21:01:22
Even make up something if you have to Macca mate.

11 Aug 2017 21:14:46
Desparate for positive news.

11 Aug 2017 21:26:34
Carra said on Sly Sports that he thinks Couts will stay for this season . after that, it would be better for both parties, that he left .

11 Aug 2017 21:32:55
the positive news is that the club have done just about everything they can to help coutinho make a decision to stay. but he wants to go. now we do what we can to help coutinho and help the club.

11 Aug 2017 21:37:43
Coutinho will stay, tho I would prefer if we got top dollar for him, buy his replacement, and move on .

11 Aug 2017 22:14:17
Problem is "redforever" nobody will sell us their best players as its too late in the window - same reason we don't want to sell Couts.

Everyone keeps saying 'replace him' - with who? It's been made clear that Navy K isn't for sale sadly.

No, it's too late in the window I'm afraid. I think an agreement to let him leave next summer is more than fair.

11 Aug 2017 22:16:12
I agree red. I think the owners statement is too specific to go back on. In a World Cup year he'll have to give us his all for one more season then he can move on. Good luck to him, especially for this season ;-)

{Ed002's Note - It is nothing to do with the world cup - he wants to leave.}

11 Aug 2017 22:31:32
He wants to leave and we are dealing with a very similar situation for an incoming player. Poss fsg setting a president i. e. U can't keep a player against his wishes when he wants to play for a specific team? Heard hoping lol.

11 Aug 2017 22:53:22
Red Bull have flatly resisted every bid by lfc, and every effort by Keita to force a move.

And so far, at least in public, Saints have flatly refused VVDs attempts to force a move.

Why can't lfc just do exactly the same with Coutinho? Turn him down flat, let him train alone for six weeks and don't let him near a pitch, and see if he changes his attitude by October.

If his attitude changes, we gain a vital player for the really difficult period around december and jan when we have so many injuries.

If he continues to sulk after Oct, then we will have effectively wasted a few million on his salary for the season, and he also risks losing his starting place in the national team.

For me there is a decent chance he will perform well once he settles after the window closes, but it is possible we will be paying a player millions to rot in the u23s because his attitude is not right for a PL campaign.

11 Aug 2017 23:05:08
just let him go and live his life the way he wants.

11 Aug 2017 23:24:50
He would almost certainly lose transfer value spending half a season in the reserves aswell as other clubs having added bargaining power, look at sakhos value with clubs knowing he has no future here, we'll probably miss out of 10 million of his 'value'

11 aug 2017 23:24:09
at the end of the day, there is the clubs interests to be considered.

if couts goes, then one way or another klopps posistion is weakened as he has publicly stated that the player was priceless and not for sale.

if couts goes then klopp could walk out along with his back room staff, who have all signed bumper contracts with the club.

so the bumper pay day the club would receive would be spent paying up their contracts.

lfc could lose their best player, their management set up and 100mill.

there's nothing to consider from the clubs perspective,

couts stays,

simples.

12 Aug 2017 01:58:46
If Klopp quits, then he negates all payouts, right? It's only if you're sacked that you get a pay off is it not?

12 Aug 2017 02:03:07
Pretty sure you're not entitled to a payout if u walk?

12 Aug 2017 02:11:49
That statement about the staff, hahaha. Why would LFC pay out their contracts of they decide to walk away? Somebody needs to understand how contracts work. Just wow.

12 Aug 2017 02:16:29
If they walkout their contracts aren't paid off? Only if they're sacked. So that's not true.

12 Aug 2017 07:19:44
Coutinho is not sulking or anything of the like, people need to get over that. He, one individual player, wants to move job. It happens. It is no different to Keegan or Rush leaving. Also we don't need a replacement in his position as Salah and Firminho can cover the positions. What should be done is to make it clear the club is selling cos the player wants to make the move and because Barcelona have pressured him to make the move now when the preference was next season. Then placate Klopp by pushing just as hard for the couple of players he wants. Personally I'd like to see a natural finisher and a top defensive player but one minor problem is I can't see where they would be.

12 Aug 2017 08:05:56
People are just pissed at the timing of his move. The season starts in a few hours : (.

12 Aug 2017 08:12:12
It depends on Klopps contract.

I was assuming that in klopps contract he would have a clause about having final say on who goes and who stays.

And after publicly stating the player stays, if the club them sold the player, they would be in breach of contract, ergo be liable.
It is possible.

{Ed002's Note - Nonsense.}

12 Aug 2017 09:59:11
I hope your right Ed.
If you look at my original post,
I was just thinking how things possibly Could pan out, given the ineptitude of the clubs dealing in the transfer markets.

But if you say its nonsense then that is that.

{Ed002's Note - It is complete nonsense.}

11 Aug 2017 20:02:25
What ever happened to It's interest in Mohoud dahoud last season.

{Ed002's Note - He moved to Borussia Dortmund.}

12 Aug 2017 00:36:30
Anyone know if he had a good season? Was he worth the hype?

12 Aug 2017 04:41:36
He played the German Super Cup Final, his first game after joining BVB, but was substituted off at half time.

11 Aug 2017 17:06:13
Ed002 In the Sharkopod you mentioned some possible incomings, there was Max Meyer and Diego? What was the second name of the player mentioned after Meyer. I hope this doesn't come across as insulting it's just I got in the pool earlier with my phone still in my pocket so the sound is really fuzzy.

{Ed002's Note - Diego Laxalt - Uruguay international with a stupid haircut. Fits the mold.}

11 Aug 2017 18:23:48
Have Liverpool scouted Diego Laxalt keeping in mind that Coutinho may leave?

{Ed002's Note - He has been looked at.}

11 Aug 2017 18:41:04
Sign him and he'll have a ket-wig within a fortnight.

11 Aug 2017 18:42:36
Please god no. with that haircut looks like that thing from the predator movie. Max Meyer would be a good shout even if not at Coutinho's level yet.

11 Aug 2017 19:05:42
I have said all along take as much as we can get for Phil and get Jamie Vadry and wilf zaha.

11 Aug 2017 18:47:29
He's ****ing awful, kick and rush merchant. Terrible touch for a South American. Very raw.

11 Aug 2017 18:47:30
Cheers Ed, I can't say I've ever heard of him but I've checked out some of his highlights and he seems alright, not fantastic though.

11 Aug 2017 19:17:47
Thankfully langland you're not in charge of the purse strings.

11 Aug 2017 21:35:04
Should we be pursuing South American players? If they're any good they will eventually want to move to Spain, right when we need them. Mascherano, Suarez, Coutinho.

I jest of course, but it does make you think.

11 Aug 2017 22:01:20
I don't know Frankly Vardy no, I don't want him but Zaha is a decent player.

11 Aug 2017 22:19:37
Actually never mind just remembered he played for Man United.

11 Aug 2017 22:55:02
So did Paul Ince and Peter Beardsley. As I recall they did pretty well at lfc.
I would also be happy to wager that Vardy scores more goals than any lfc player.
Dont be so short sighted guys.

11 Aug 2017 23:08:38
I've been saying Zaha would be decent all summer. I'm not convinced on him, he flashes hot and cold but I think klopp would turn him into a really good player. If we signed vardy I would be gutted, decent player but j***er. I felt for ranieri last season and could just imagine Jamie orchestrating the mutiny. He bottled the move to arsenal coz he'd rather be a big fish in a small pond. But mostly I'm against lfc signing players who look like lizards. Full stop.

12 Aug 2017 00:29:52
Zaha is a winger, we need a creative midfielder if Couts leaves and with Lallana out for months. Makes no sense to sign Zaha, who'd probably demand a fee of £40m in this crazy market, and have him on the bench because he's no way getting in front of Mane and Salah. And Vardy? Where does he play? Another striker to go on the bench. One of him or Studge would forever be on the bench. Ths is just nonsense. stop the nonsense.

12 Aug 2017 07:49:10
As Gregarious points out Zaha is in a position already covered and can't player anywhere else. He is very very important to Palace so they will rightly want massive money. Probably Sakho as well. Plus he tried moving clubs once and it didn't work, question would still be is he someone who won't prosper away from home. Ultimately lots of reasons not to buy him. (Oh and if they have any sense Palace will want to recoup for LFC selling them the massive damp squib that is Benteke) .

11 Aug 2017 17:21:33
My mate just text me to say Barcelona have offered Lucas Digne and Rafinha as a make weight in a deal for Coutinho to ease a last minute CB, LB and Midfield shortage.

11 Aug 2017 17:29:51
Those two, plus £70m, then go buy Mahrez and wait til next year for Naby.

11 Aug 2017 17:36:01
We've got a left back and Rafinha is a terrible player. Why are people so obsessed with Mahrez? He's awful?

11 Aug 2017 17:40:28
Can't all be wrong. Mahrez is pretty good. better than you might think.

11 Aug 2017 17:44:49
Firstly we do not have a midfield shortage and secondly u named 2 players but 3 positions. is rafinha a utility player or can he play cb and midfield?

11 Aug 2017 17:47:47
Agree with Frankly. All those players offered by Barcelona are useless.
Only player I would take is Suarez.

Also no need to mahrez. aweful.

11 Aug 2017 17:51:45
I'd rather have the money.

11 Aug 2017 17:53:15
No to any Barcelona player which is surplus thank you very much.

Luckily LFC have zero interest in Barcelona players :-)

11 Aug 2017 17:55:03
why do barcalona think we want there castoffs. we hold all the cards and if Barcelona want coutinho so much either put up or shut up. and as for so called family members slamming l. pool over this transfer slam they should slam coutinho he's not long signed a 5yr contract.

{Ed025's Note - contracts of footballers are not worth the paper they are written on steve..

11 Aug 2017 18:03:06
Mahrez is awful? awful enough to win POTY. Give over, the Rafinha part aside (who is bang average) it's actually a really good suggestion.

11 Aug 2017 18:03:11
Oirish Kev, Mahrez had one good season for Leicester and was rotten last year, I think we've seen enough one season wonders. Besides which he's hardly a number 10, he lacks the composure and intelligence on the ball.

11 Aug 2017 18:04:33
We don't want their rubbish.

11 Aug 2017 18:14:39
If Coutinho does move on, which im expecting now, we should look to Barkley for now. Use some of the balance for VVD.

11 Aug 2017 18:25:21
Digne is more injury prone that Sturridge. Besides, Liverpool already have Robertson, Milner and seemingly Moreno is staying. No need for a full back this window.

11 Aug 2017 18:29:59
Keep him, transfer requests 24 hrs before season starts? Liverpool has taken enough stick for their transfer dealings this summer but at least they bid for the players at the start of the window, not 3 weeks from the end of the window after they failed to get their first choice. tell him he's staying till next summer, end of. And before someone says the club were aware he wanted to move months ago. why didn't they bid months ago? as much as Liepzigs stance has been frustrating this summer i think everyone would have to respect their decision and that's the same way it should be now regarding Liverpool. the club won't sell this summer.

11 Aug 2017 18:38:35
Barkley? Ed025 wants shot of him, which is indictment enough for me.

HX, Mahrez really isn't very good. he's only ever had one really good season in his career and suddenly he's a £50m footballer? Last season he was at best mediocre. Like I say, lack of composure on the ball and goes missing if he can't be bothered. Let someone else get mugged.

11 Aug 2017 18:42:59
Who wasnt 'rotten' for Leicester last year?

Not that I necessarily want him, but a Mahrez in a free flowing attacking team would be an asset.

11 Aug 2017 19:10:35
I don't see how having one really good season in a career is enough to spend £50m? Davey have you actually watched him beyond a highlights reel? Last season was more representative of his normal output.

11 Aug 2017 18:14:15
Keeps the price of a player intact though Ed25.

{Ed025's Note - it does to a certain extent i suppose nicky..

11 Aug 2017 18:47:07
I think Mahrez is magic on the ball, what he lacks is grit, determination and work ethic.

{Ed025's Note - dont forget loyalty and honesty jayden..

11 Aug 2017 18:56:51
I would agree to push for cash only deal, get the players we want rather than trying to make them fit.
Would they agree to move? No idea myself!
Mahrez is very hot and cold, with the money we could probably get a better player.
Always wanted Draxler, but probably no chance and not even a consideration - good player though.

11 Aug 2017 19:00:55
Some on here saying Mahrez is a one season wonder. Isn't keita as well? Fickle!

11 Aug 2017 19:28:42
Good point Rome.

11 Aug 2017 19:19:44
Mahrez isn't a 50 million pound player you're right, but neymar shouldn't have been a 200 million pound player either, Coutinho shouldn't have been a 100+ million pound player but this is the climate we're in, if siggy from swans is 50 million I'd jump at mahrez for 50! (not slating Everton's attempts to sign siggy I think he's very good too)

11 Aug 2017 19:30:06
If we sell Coutinho then whatever player we go for we will see his price rise dramatically and the club get held to ransom. We are literally in a no win situation.

11 Aug 2017 19:42:59
If you think Mahrez would be a good fit, than you really don't understand our system. His work rate is appalling, and in a high press system, all it takes is one player not doing their job for a defensive collapse. I would be shocked if he was a player that Klopp holds an interest in.

11 Aug 2017 20:00:01
I wouldn't really want any of those Leicester players, I can't say it was all of them, but to be honest the way they went about the business with CR was a joke.

11 Aug 2017 20:10:08
Actually Mahrez is a one season wonder, whereas Kante continued in the same vein and isn't a one season wonder (two consecutive league winners medals? ) . The two seasons before Leicester won the league Mahrez was very very ordinary, the season following, he was very very ordinary. Hence one season wonder. As he was really good for one season and really poor for three.

11 Aug 2017 20:53:48
Mahrez is a classy player. When he wants to turn it on he is as good as, if not better than most wingers in league. BUT. Haven't we just signed a winger? I don't think klopp would go near him as his work ethic is not there.

I agree with post that says, TR is too late in the day, season starts tomorrow. Before we start feeling sorry for pipco let's remember he is on £140.000 a week. He plays for an elite club an is in same tournament that Barcelona are in. He will get his chance at Barcelona I'm sure but everyone knows we don't have a strong enough squad to let him go atm. If we'd got kieta I think FSG would have said "ok barca" but as it stands we need him too much.

I think any thought that Phil would choose us over Spanish giants has now gone. We know how he feels about it all. I say, if we get kieta then fine, he can go, if not then he simply can't desert us, the team that's has ignited his career. Let him know this is the case. End of. He will play well for us as world cup, and if he had poor season would Barcelona still be interested? I know the eds say that Barcelona say "it's now or never" but that's rubbish. They are always in for the top south american players and Phil is still getting better.

Eds, I don't mean what you say is rubbish, it's what Barcelona say that I believe is rubbish. Your insight is great and sorry if I go on sometimes and contradict myself.

11 Aug 2017 21:00:10
We ............

{Ed002's Note - You have to stop trolling all of the posts with the same tedious comment.}

11 Aug 2017 21:02:21
Who actually cares that much? So we lose Couts and we get a bucket load of cash and we buy a replacement. That is football fellas, we sell or they retire. This isn't Stevie we are talking about, this is a player who has been good for us that we bought for inbetween 8 - 10 million. He has done his duty and if he leaves will fetch us a good profit. Klopp and Co must have already known about this as the rumours having been running for a year now - no smoke without fire. FSG haven't been able to/ don't want to splash out the dosh to create a dream team that is guaranteed to fight for the title so there is no real drama here imo. I for one think that we have a good team and we have the chance to challenge. Looking forward to the new season, good luck gents.

11 Aug 2017 21:28:44
I like what you say chuffes but the fact FSG haven't splashed out is the exact reason we can't afford to lose him. You're right that we have a great team with or without Phil but last term it was depth that cost us dearly and although we have 3"decent new players we've also sold a few and for me depth is still an issue, especially with European football.

Again, if we sign kieta, then let him go, he has served us well. If we get vvd too then depth certainly won't be an issue.

11 Aug 2017 21:22:00
Quick honest question:

Why are footballers not allowed to leave their job when under contract, but in a regular job you can? Can't he hand in his notice?

Sounds like a stupid question, but seriously why?

{Ed002's Note - Their registration is held by there employers and they are contract under terms which do not fall under employment law. This has been explained on many occasions.}

11 Aug 2017 21:50:32
@Ed002 where else do you see my post? This is the only place I have posted and it is my first time.

{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what you are talking about.}

11 Aug 2017 22:13:26
my fault. The GUI got me. I think you were referring to the post above mine.

11 Aug 2017 22:15:30
Mahrez is a cracking player when he wants to play. It seems to be just that though. Where was he when Leicester were getting smashed week in week out?

11 Aug 2017 20:53:48
Mahrez is a classy player. When he wants to turn it on he is as good as, if not better than most wingers in league. BUT. Haven't we just signed a winger? I don't think klopp would go near him as his work ethic is not there.

I agree with post that says, TR is too late in the day, season starts tomorrow. Before we start feeling sorry for pipco let's remember he is on £140.000 a week. He plays for an elite club an is in same tournament that Barcelona are in. He will get his chance at Barcelona I'm sure but everyone knows we don't have a strong enough squad to let him go atm. If we'd got kieta I think FSG would have said "ok barca" but as it stands we need him too much.

I think any thought that Phil would choose us over Spanish giants has now gone. We know how he feels about it all. I say, if we get kieta then fine, he can go, if not then he simply can't desert us, the team that's has ignited his career. Let him know this is the case. End of. He will play well for us as world cup, and if he had poor season would Barcelona still be interested? I know the eds say that Barcelona say "it's now or never" but that's rubbish. They are always in for the top south american players and Phil is still getting better.

Eds, I don't mean what you say is rubbish, it's what Barcelona say that I believe is rubbish. Your insight is great and sorry if I go on sometimes and contradict myself.

11 Aug 2017 22:49:55
He's been replaced by salah.

He was going to play cm so in theory we don't need a like for like.

12 Aug 2017 00:56:38
As sorry as I am to say this, I think we've made a rod for our own back in the way we've pursued vid and keita this summer. We've unsettled our targets, and that has no doubt negatively affected other teams preperations for the season. I can't see how we can complain when Barcelona do it to us. I think we make it clear we want £120m+ and let couts go with our gratitude and best wishes. It's not like he's pushing for a move to arsenal. thoughts?

12 Aug 2017 03:13:58
Has anyone EVER gone from liverpool to arsenal?

12 Aug 2017 08:02:13
FranklyMrShankly - keita and Kante are 2 different players for 2 different teams in 2 different countries. Just in case you are unsure who Keita is. No mention of Kante being a 1 season wonder 🙈.

11 Aug 2017 16:02:45
Latest multiple club transfer rumours from Ed002.


Sharkopod 15

11 Aug 2017 16:29:27
"liverpool is a suburb of manchester"

ahh, you kill me Ed002, you kill me.

11 Aug 2017 16:55:31
Recovered it when he was in the middle of the United rumours and said "TOUGH" 😂.

11 Aug 2017 17:47:18
Some quality tunes there ED2!

11 Aug 2017 17:32:10
Good stuff ed02. Yeah Manchester suburb! Funny man.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}

11 Aug 2017 15:05:42
Ed002, I am curious about Barcelona's position being that they 'won't wait a year'.

Why is that? They clearly don't have another target?

Not questioning it, just doesn't make sense to me. If they want him, why won't they want him next year? All seems a little odd.

{Ed002's Note - They need a replacement for Iniesta.}

11 Aug 2017 15:12:08
Iniesta is good to go another year, and will likely do so. They can wait, rather than using these threat tactics.

{Ed002's Note - That is not the plan and there are no "threat tactics" - it is embarrassing seeming these posts.}

11 Aug 2017 15:16:59
You're right, them saying "its now or never" is not strictly a threat, but to a player who they know is keen, it is a cynical attempt to have him pressurise his current club.
Regardless of 'Barca's plan', I am sure it was not in Liverpool's plan to sell him, and nor do they have to, so make Barcelona wait.

11 Aug 2017 15:21:37
It's about what we need . not them!

11 Aug 2017 15:25:51
Counts should be made to train with VVD.

11 Aug 2017 15:26:25
Look at it this way when we were after a LB would we have told Hull "It's ok lads hang on to him until you're ready we can manage another year without one"?

11 Aug 2017 15:39:43
I agree, pc is a fantastic player who is still going to be fantastic next year. It's not a threat but is going to make pc edgy for sure. The fact is that we have been on the other end of this with kieta and vvd and have lost out so why should we back down now?

We simply can't afford to lose him this year. However, having a player like pc not enthusiastic is a worry for me as when he is not on form he is pretty poor.

I think we should tell Barcelona "give us rakitic AND gomes plus forty/ fifty mil and he is yours. That way pc is happy, we have an exciting replacement in gomes and much needed added depth with rakitic.

I believe this would suit all parties and appease fans (like myself) who are calling for more signings. If you're reading klopp, I urge you to consider.

Eds sorry to bug you, do you think it's possible we could get two players in the deal?

{Ed001's Note - why would we want two players that are not good enough for them to replace a player who is? That's even if you forget about having to pay them taking up all the money received.}

11 Aug 2017 15:50:24
Give us inesta then aswell, id have him for 2 years 😉.

11 Aug 2017 15:53:17
Why do people think Rakitic is still a good player? It's like you haven't actually watched football for two years? His legs have gone and he's simply not up to it at the top level any more, he lacks the intelligence for his brain to take him where his legs can't. As for Gomes, I'm not convinced that he's good enough and thought Barcelona were mugs for paying so much for a player of the back of some ok-ish performances in the Euros.

11 Aug 2017 15:56:31
I am not looking forward to this season at all. I believe in Klopp and the players we have but we need more to take on all competitions and stay 4th. If Coutinho goes and no one comes in, I hope they make sorting out the way we go about transfers a priority.

11 Aug 2017 15:59:20
Oh yeah, keep forgetting about Barcelona players wages. Not being good enough for Barcelona doesn't make you a donkey by any means. And they must have something for Barcelona to sign them in the first place but the wages are a good point although Phil is on a fair bit and we have missed out on other players so we must have enough to cover a couple of high end signings?

Cheers for the feedback ed01. I guess I'm trying desperately to put a positive spin on the pipco saga.

{Ed001's Note - they buy crap too you know, though Rakitic was good when they got him, he is shot now and Gomes was a poor buy.}

11 Aug 2017 16:23:14
Barcelona know full well, as we all do, that prices for players are going through the roof. If Couthino has a good domestic season followed by a decent World Cup, his price will go up even further.

11 Aug 2017 16:55:24
Personally I wouldn't want any swap deal with Barcelona if we were to get the 100+ mil for Phil then I would invest in a top front man and ask firminho to drop back into his natural position.

11 Aug 2017 15:22:04
If their plan is to replace Iniesta like Ed002 is saying, then lfc should negotiate a deal to bring Iniesta plus cash. Iniesta can still offer us two years in pl?

{Ed002's Note - They would certainly be open to that but I don't know if the player would be interested.}

11 Aug 2017 15:24:43
Ok, so basically Iniesta is being phased out this season with Coutinho the heir to the throne (so to speak)?

Fair enough, cheers. I didn't realise that was the situation with Iniesta.

{Ed002's Note - Yes. Coutinho was not first choice but they want the replacement this summer.}

11 Aug 2017 15:24:46
Eds, I don't understand why Coutinho, like VVD, wants to sign a new 5 years contract when he already have an ambition to play for Barcelona since last year?

{Ed002's Note - He got a very good pay rise out of it.}

11 Aug 2017 18:36:11
I think that is a decent idea Al hassan. If they are SO desperate for iniesta replacement then we take iniesta. That would certainly ease liverpool fans loss of pc. Like ed says, would he want to join? I think at this stage in his career liverpool would be perfect for him.

I also like suggestion of selling pc (don't wanna sell him, but if we must) and using money for top forward. If this had been handled properly then we could have had lacazette. Bobby dropping back to 10. The problem is who? Who can we sign at this late stage? Luan? Good player but not good enough to be top man.

11 Aug 2017 19:22:43
'Couts should be made to train with VVD' yes pllease! At melwood preferably.

11 Aug 2017 20:06:09
The only 2 players worth a swap and Suarez and Messi and we know that isn't going to happen. Wouldn't want to take any of the other players, though that being said not at phils level but i do like Delefeou not really sure we need another winger though!

11 Aug 2017 14:02:32
Paul Joyce
Lfc formally reject transfer request and insist he going nowhere.
Suppose we will See, money talks I reckon and a deal will get done.

11 Aug 2017 14:13:53
Hes changed his tune.

11 Aug 2017 14:21:15
This will drag and drag and drag. Plus if he does want to leave that will effect him till the window closes.
It will then take time to settle again and perform then it will all kick off again in Jan.

I'd pack him off 100 mill and take maybe rakitic on loan with option to buy, don't know enough about the others.
Cough up for vvd and kieta, take a shot at luan and/ or ox.

This is IF he pushes or hands in request. Shake the lads hand and wish him luck at Barca.

11 Aug 2017 14:33:39
We don't have to sell, we are in a good position.

This has been going on for a year, he should have put in the transfer request months ago.

He needs to have a good season with the World Cup coming up.

11 Aug 2017 14:35:37
Thank god you're not the manager, raktic is past it and 100 million isn't all that much in today's market.

11 Aug 2017 14:37:09
Eds, may I ask what you would do in this situation as owner/ manager? Lose one of your stand out players and try and replace them with 2 weeks to go? OR keep him but maybe have a less then enthusiastic player who may cause a bit of division in the team?

{Ed002's Note - The club knew this was likely and it is never a good idea to keep a player who wants to be elsewhere. So sell.}

11 Aug 2017 14:52:42
Ed002 normally I would agree with your comment about selling if they want out but considering that we have just short of 3 weeks to find a replacement (in a tough market) I just would sell. Plus its a World Cup year so I highly doubt he will go on strike, its too late in the day. I understand him wanting Barcelona and if it was June I would say sell. Players drive me mad! be it VVD or Courts they just signed long term contracts and enjoy the pay rise but throw their toys out when clubs ask them to respect their deals.

{Ed002's Note - I think Liverpool has had a long time to line up a replacement. They have had the red flag waving for more than a year Madchild.}

11 Aug 2017 14:52:50
Listen I'm hoping it's not true and he stays and more importantly wants to stay.

But I'm not convinced he does and don't blame him really, it's Barca.

Till the window is closed he can and probably will push for a move this will have a negative effect on him and the squad. Force him to stay but don't expect the same player as his heads going to be all over the place, if his family wants to leave his missus will give him down the banks and those of who are married will understand that, that will just increase pressure and mess his head right up.

It would take him a little while to accept he's staying and settle again IF he does at all. I'd rather just get it over with and move quickly in the market.

Rakatic on loan provides a no risk gamble, I don't know anything about the others on offer. It's not a popular choice but we face a massive season and if rather fully committed players who are focused and ready for the challenge than having to deal with an issue such as above.

11 Aug 2017 14:53:01
Ed 002.it's too close to end of window to allow Coutinho to leave. There are no alternatives. You said so yourself. RBL won't sell Keita.

{Ed002's Note - Macca says that Nobby Keita is back on - and I have listed alternatives. It gets a mention in the Sharkopod I did this morning.}

11 Aug 2017 14:53:09
Coutinho will still be enthusiastic as ever even if transfer request is denied, as he will want to be part of the brazil world cup squad and couldn't afford to sulk. It shouldn't of got to the stage where he has had to hand in a TR. Once he informed the club of his wish to leave they should of thanked him for contributions to the club and set the price.

11 Aug 2017 14:54:27
Yep, I think sell is the only option now. In fairness to Coutinho his dream has always been to play for Barcelona and, whilst at our club, he has conducted himself in an exemplary manner. Barcelona should pay through the nose for him, but I don't think we should stand in his way. It is a hammer blow, and it seriously dents any prospect we had of a title challenge, but these things happen and have been happening to us on a cyclical basis - hopefully, as the club knew this was going to happen sooner or later, we have some sort of well thought out replacement in mind.

11 Aug 2017 14:59:40
We're into 'how much' territory. He's gone.

11 Aug 2017 14:59:41
Hi Ed002, to add to your answer to Dean's question, what is the minimum fee you would accept? Cheers.

{Ed002's Note - I would rather not talk about money but if Liverpool could het £100M they should be very satisfied.}

11 Aug 2017 15:05:15
Earlier in the window I said let him go, however it's too late in the day for that now, and pipco should blame Barcelona for that. It's world cup year which always strengthens a clubs hand. Keep him, watch him star in the World Cup and get more for him. Sad state of affairs all round though.

11 Aug 2017 15:49:25
Very good point lfc hopeful. His price will rocket after world cup. Sell him next year as if he performs better than neymar in world cup people will be saying pipco is worth 200 mil too.

11 Aug 2017 15:50:28
If he wants to go then let him go. Apparently Klopp has said if he goes, then he goes. So if the manager is philosophical about so should we be.

Couts is a great player but I don't think he's a Suarez, who was pretty much irreplaceable. Best he go on good terms, and we not be hypocritical as fans.

Maybe we are playing the same game as RBL. It will have forced us to up our bid, and the tac may well force Barca's hand as well. It's the commercial nature of the game.

If we sign Keita, fine. If we don't, also fine. Hopefully Sturridge, Solanke, Original (& Ings, if he's not going on loan) will come good for goals, and Firmino can play a good 10 role. Mané and Salah look formidable. Lallana showed his quality last season, hopefully he will come back fighting fit.

We've not got the money of the likes of City, but I think we've made a good case we don't necessarily need it, in so much as we did well against the other top teams last season.

I look forward to this coming season. I'm not going to say "this is our year" but I think we have a lot to be positive about.

I'd like to see VVD in, as we know we have need in that area, but on other fronts I think we are mostly okay.

11 Aug 2017 15:34:05
I don't think keita will happen.

11 Aug 2017 15:25:29
The problem is Ed002 how much time do LFC need to sign a replacement? Macca says Naby Keita is back on (makes a worthy replacement for Coutinho imo) though many remain sceptical he will join LFC this summer. Sell Coutinho m=now for big money to Barcelona and FSG have their pants pulled down by Leipzig or any other club LFC go to looking for a replacement.
It seems there is no way back now for Coutinho and FSG should go to Leipzig and pay what they want for Keita (which will be a ridiculous amount) .

{Ed002's Note - I don't see NK as a PC replacement. A Max Meyer, a Diego Laxalt perhaps.}

11 Aug 2017 16:09:22
Ed002 I completely get where you are coming from and they have probably known for at least a year that he would want to go to Barcelona and he knew there was an interest why did he sign a new 5 year contract? Would it not have been easier for him to refuse the contract and be in a better position now to push the Barcelona move?

This is what I mean by players taking the money until it doesn't suit them. I wouldn't sell just cause its too late in the day for my mind as every other player we go for once we have that type of money will double in value over night.

{Ed002's Note - Perhaps but I would see the contract signed some months ago as being of any great relevance.}

11 Aug 2017 18:42:27
Good post robboz. It's not the end of the world is it? We have lots of great players. My concern is a lack of added quality coming in and our best player going. BUT.

I think salah will get more goals than pipco got last term.

11 Aug 2017 20:10:30
A few years off and last time i think we looked at him, decided to stay in Croatia to develop some more, which i liked. Coric i think has such huge potential in him. being brutally honest if we did sell PC, Firmino can drop deeper if we have a fit striker. Solanke has looked okay, so between mane, salah, RF and solanke might do alright!

11 Aug 2017 21:16:32
This is now a stare down btw Cou and the owners and trust me, this will not end well for him. He is dealing with American owners and trust me, they do not play games esp. if one of their players is trying to force their hand. To them, he who writes the checks, makes the rules. Hence, Cou's team was stupid to put in that TR and this will only strengthen the owners's stance and they will not sell and Cou will to them, simply get over iot. Suarez did way worse than this to get a move to Arsenal of all places and JWH crushed that crap and LS got over it. Cou will have to cos the owners won't budge.

11 Aug 2017 13:46:25
@MelissaReddy_:

Phil Coutinho has now officially asked to leave #LFC.

11 Aug 2017 13:59:01
James pearce saying the same now.

11 Aug 2017 14:05:54
Not true I'm one of coutinhos other family members he's so embarrassed by the family he's devorcing the family he said he's staying and he's asking messi and Suarez to join him in Liverpool, it was capital of culture you know!

11 Aug 2017 14:06:12
And the money river keeps on flowing, heading to Southampton and RBL next I believe.

11 Aug 2017 15:49:20
I still can't see either of those deals happening. RBL don't want to sell this season, and Southampton don't want to sell to us. We'll be likely left at the end of the transfer window with a Coutinho sized hole in the squad and a fat wedge of cash in our pockets. The important thing is to get as much out of Barca, accept none of their cast offs as part payment and don't waste money on the likes of AOC.

11 Aug 2017 12:22:41
Coutinho has put a transfer request in according to Sky Sports. Any news on this Eds?

{Ed002's Note - As you are aware Coutinho wants to move to Barcelona - the club do not wish to sell him, and this would be him pushing a little harder to get the move he wants.}

11 Aug 2017 12:39:18
It's been rubbished by Pearce and Reddy. SkySports sources are probably Man U fans. 😂

Who knows. Could be an interesting end to the window.

11 Aug 2017 12:39:29
James Pearce in response: "#LFC adamant that they haven't received a transfer request from Philippe Coutinho"

11 Aug 2017 12:33:33
Melissa Reddy saying the news is untrue. Seriously I'm done with transfer windows now. Once upon a time before we became a selling club, they actually used to be fun!

11 Aug 2017 12:35:01
James Pearce has said Liverpool are adamant they haven't recieved a transfer request.

11 Aug 2017 12:36:24
Ed 02, what does a transfer request actually mean? Does it change anything regarding Liverpools stance over the transfer? Thanks as always.

{Ed002's Note - It means the player is willing to forego his 5% of the transfer fee to try and get the move he wants. The club don't need to accept it.}

11 Aug 2017 12:43:01
James Pierce says no transfer request has been handed in. Bit of a mystery but I'm sure he'll be gone by the end of the window.

11 Aug 2017 12:46:54
Is this an indication that we are past the stage of asking him to stay for one more season ala Suarez or could that still happen even after a request?

{Ed001's Note - a transfer request can be rejected.}

11 Aug 2017 12:48:51
If a transfer request is handed in, the club does not accept it, but then later sells anyway is the player entitled to the 5% as the request was rejected? Or as he handed it in is the 5% void regardless? Probably a silly question just curious thanks guys.

{Ed002's Note - If the club formally respond to the player rejecting the request, then yes.}

11 Aug 2017 12:51:07
Let the boy go. He deserves a chance at winning things.

11 Aug 2017 12:55:51
SSN are saying their source is blaming the club and quoted Suarez and Gerrard in that "Liverpool do not let players leave amicably" and that he has tried very hard to find an amicable solution. The plot thickens.

I'll just nip onto Ancestory. com and find his 4th cousin that gave them the info.

11 Aug 2017 13:01:14
Fakenews move along nowt to see here.

11 Aug 2017 13:45:14
Only matter of time though.

11 Aug 2017 11:08:09
Morning Ed2, hope you're well?

Is there any further update regarding the Ox Ed?

Thanks in advance.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool are still interested in taking the player.}

11 Aug 2017 13:46:29
Hopefully Chelsea will offer stupid money for him.

11 Aug 2017 15:18:47
Out of interest Frankly, have you ever responded positively to anything the club has ever done?

Every post you put on here is so negative.

11 Aug 2017 07:46:45
Morning all

Eds as regards to Luan mate, is he being looked at as a winger? I just can't see how we will get him in the team with Salah and Mane fit? He doesn't seem to be a Striker but can play the Number 10 slot.

Also what changed as I can remember you saying forget about Luan signing.

{Ed002's Note - The problem in January was the third party ownership - and that still would need to be resolved before any transfer. He can play in pretty much any forward position - but I agree it is hard to see how he would fit in to the first team.}

11 Aug 2017 10:24:50
Unfortunately Sturridge can't be relied upon to stay fit. He had a slight muscle pull (apparently) 2 weeks ago and is still out. Salah and Mane cannot be expected to play every game so if this lad can play anywhere across the front 3 then it makes sense. And let's not forget Lallana is out for a few months. Cheaper option than the Ox and will no doubt be a squad player.

11 Aug 2017 10:26:22
We need a squad not just a first team. No player is guaranteed to be in the first team and competition is healthy.

11 Aug 2017 10:31:11
Ideal buy then, i don't see what other winger options we have other than mane and salah, and its a long season.

11 Aug 2017 10:44:32
Coutinho, Origi, Kent, Woodburn, Sturridge, Firmino, Lallana, Milner can all play wide, Ox can play a number of positions so would be a good squad player but to be honest I think if we get only VVD we have a strong squad.

11 Aug 2017 11:00:45
i don't think we'll be making any moves for him. i have a feeling Solanke will get his chance along with Origi.