Liverpool Rumours Archive July 11 2017

11 Jul 2017 15:56:06
Ojo to Boro, I think it's a better move for him than Newcastle. A move to a premier league club would have been ideal however I don't see him getting regular games at any premier league club.

11 Jul 2017 16:19:44
Yh but if he wants to play for liverpool he needs to prove himself at the highest level.

11 Jul 2017 18:17:09
Please no. if he goes to boro he'll likely not play for us again.

11 Jul 2017 18:42:31
i don't see the big deal, if he's good enough he'll make it, if he's not he won't. Hardly rocket science!

11 Jul 2017 18:42:31
i don't see the big deal, if he's good enough he'll make it, if he's not he won't. Hardly rocket science!

11 Jul 2017 19:13:36
Good for him, but gutted in a way, wish we could've seen him play for us more this season but again, it's a good move for him to give him regular football.

11 Jul 2017 20:01:39
Unless there has been a change at Boro, we couldn't have sent him to a team that is more opposite to how we play. hope it goes well for him.

11 Jul 2017 21:25:49
Things have changed they have a new manager and from what I've seen monk wants his team's to play good football he's not just a long ball merchant.

11 Jul 2017 21:40:23
Monk does want them to attack, I fancy Ojo to get plenty of game time.

11 Jul 2017 21:56:05
Yeah I reckon he'd be a starter the majority of the season Hansens, he can be vital for them I'm sure, should he stay fit.

11 Jul 2017 22:05:20
Flanno should go as well to a club luke boro or Villa.,

A season playing regular football in the championship would build up his resistance better tha warming a bench at Anfield or Burnley.

Its make or break for the lad this season.

11 Jul 2017 23:26:46
Boro are a good team for giving promising youngsters s chance. My mate is callum chambers uncle. He said he liked it ar biro but want to go back to arsenal. Wenger really likes him and wants to keep hold of him but he wants regular matches. Is he good enough for us? Mani killed him last year. Arsenal Ard signing lacazette! Why couldn't we get him? Too slow. Come on liverpool, put your money where your mouth is. Time to spend that 200 mkl we were promised. Coul get kieta and vvd, Robertson and still have 50/ 60 mil for z striker. We are not going to win the league without a top goal scorer. No one has ever won the prem without a 25+ man. Arsenal also fancy vvd. They have a very slick transfer team and could charm him. We need to move this week and offer 70 mil for both players. So what, we want to win don't we? We were unbelievable last season. Best football in the league. If we had someone like lacazette I reckon we would be really dangerous against any team in the world.

12 Jul 2017 01:56:42
Will be a baptism of fire for him. Championship is rough, decent level of football. I have a feeling that ojo could light up our front line. Been saying we need a goal scorer, 25+. He could be that man. Been ages since we had a kid who made defenders gulp.

12 Jul 2017 04:21:08
Just to add. Salah, firmino and mane are as dangerous as they come. That is some front line. With capable fbs and creative midfielder (coutinio ) I can see mane getting 20+ if he doesn't get injured.

12 Jul 2017 05:28:06
I know it sounds rash bur we need to get our skates on. We want new players to settle a little before new season. And others are trying to sign them. Just pay the asking price, we are going to have some team, if we get these two. Thought kieta was pie in the sky but looks like he's coming.

12 Jul 2017 06:30:42
Ojo has already proved himself in the championship with 2 other clubs.
I'm afraid I agree, this loan is not a good sign for Ojo at LFC.

{Ed001's Note - that is the problem, he has not proved himself. He was on the fringes both loan spells as he is simply not ready yet.}

12 Jul 2017 09:00:51
Should he stay fit this season and do well, he MUST be given a chance with our first team next season or I fear we'll lose him, I have everything crossed for this lad. Watched him for along time now and he really excites me for the future.

12 Jul 2017 09:24:02
So many fans (of other clubs too, I'm sure) MASSIVELY overreact where young players are concerned. Ojo isn't either ready or good enough to make our bench most weeks, so loaning him makes total sense. 2ndly not every young player is like Rooney or Alli and ready to be top class Prem players in their teens. 3rdly loads of highly promising youngsters don't make it at big clubs we just hear about them less because we're less interested in other teams young players. A loan will be good for Ojo as he'll either prove he's becoming the player we hope, or he'll do well enough to earn himself a transfer and us some money.

12 Jul 2017 09:43:04
Fabcrusoe - I have a feeling one day you will eat your words, your saying 'Ojo isn't either ready or good enough to make our bench most weeks' Ed1 said he isn't ready, which I will believe because it's coming from him. I have a feeling you are just taking people's words for it and haven't even seen him play, he has talent, he can be the full package with a bit more experience.

If it wasn't for his back injury last season I feel he'd be going nowhere on loan and we would be slowly putting him into the first team with cup games to start off with. But to me, as ed1 has stated, he isn't ready and I feel this is the reason behind him not been ready.

Unfortunately his injury set him back, not his fault is it? it's just unfortunate. Onwards and upwards for that lad I think.

I agree a lot of fans do overreact over some youngsters, but Ojo is at another level, I'm not saying he's going to be world class or anything because nobody knows right now, but at least a good player he will be, providing luck goes his way for once.

Ed1, your a busy guy I appreciate that but would love for you to do an article on Ojo, your opinions and excellent knowledge of players/ staff is second to none. If you could add this to your big list mate I think it'd make a great read.

12 Jul 2017 10:58:34
I have a feeling he will struggle to break into the boro side but we will see, I hope he does well.

12 Jul 2017 11:06:50
Yes going on loan can be great but if he goes on loan to the championship next year he will have the exact same questions hanging over him of is he ready for the premier league. He will be another year older and us fans will likely be calling for another winger to be signed by then. Woodburn will probably stay and move further ahead of him in the pecking order too.

12 Jul 2017 11:41:34
Personally think a loan with Newcastle is better. A year under Rafa might change his game. I rate him but in the games I have watched he seems a bit loose with the ball. Has the attributes to succeed though for sure.

12 Jul 2017 11:48:01
He will get games somewhere down the line in the championship, simply down to the sheer number of matches they play across various competitions.
Its a bit rougher too, will toughen him up and teach him to be smarter on the ball. Precisely what Leicester did with Mahrez, but they did it internally.
What one of the previous posters said is bang on, he will either show Liverpool enough to get some games for us next season or will prove he has the ability to help another club and get transferred.

Good luck to him, I love a direct, forward thinking player.

12 Jul 2017 15:45:23
12 thumbs down for saying we need a top striker? And for saying we won't win league without a 20+ man. We'll no one has EVER Won the prem without a 20+ man. I also concede that mani should have got over twenty last season if not for injury and African cup and could be that man. I hope he is. I still feel we need another striker and if we keep making low offers for players then the big spenders are going to swoop in and sign em from under our noses. Kieta is already talking about city. Mbappe is meeting with arsenal. Both Could be at melwood already.

14 Jul 2017 02:15:36
Superred, mate, while I admit you're getting unfairly thumbed down (I assume you've REALLY gotten on the nerves of a bunch of people and they're getting personal), that last comment is complete garbage.

Some seasons of the Prem didn't even have 20+ goal scorers, and they definitely don't rule a team out of winning if they don't have one.

Maybe think before you post and do some damage control on that rep of yours.

11 Jul 2017 14:09:14
Hi eds. Hearing from sly sports about ox and his contract negotiations stalling with arsenal. I know klopp likes him. Do u think it will trigger Liverpool to go try get him or is it all rubbish from sky? .

{Ed002's Note - For reasons beyond me Klipperty does indeed have the Klopps for AOC.}

11 Jul 2017 14:24:57
Maybe he's a fan of Little Mix ed002.

{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what that is.}

11 Jul 2017 14:26:41
I simply don't understand the transfer let alone the man. People claim he is versatile, Who is not versataile at Liverpool? Emre Can is Versataile, Henderson, Wiji and Lallana all are Versataile. This is pure wasting of lines on a player who would never start in the first place! He is neuter a CM, DM or a holding midifelder which could be justified if signed!

11 Jul 2017 14:37:34
Woah Woah Woah Woah Woah! LFC daily meant half and half that by no means mean he is neutered Harry!

11 Jul 2017 14:37:48
Harry chill mate. He can cover wing back as well as full back and on either wing to cover for Mane or Salah. My only thoughts are can we offer him more game time than Arsenal can. Im guessing he is seeking more game time and can we give him that?

11 Jul 2017 14:38:43
I can sort of understand to an extent. We will be competing in the Champions League next season plus all the others. Last season when we looked at the bench, there was only a couple youngsters who he could turn too (Woodburn and Trent. couple of times Ejaria) . Maybe Klopp thinks that AOC can add that little bit of experience and versatility that we was lacking last season? You have all got to admit at times the bench looked very weak and inexperienced?

11 Jul 2017 14:39:43
I do believe that neutering our players will likely have a negative impact on their performance, Harry.

Whilst it will likely curb their passions away from the game, it may well have a negative impact on their aggression in the 'tackle'.

11 Jul 2017 14:45:16
I think that we need to trust Klopp when it comes to choice of playing personnel. Last year there was an outcry when we didn't get Zielinski and ended up with Gini and look how well he did for us last season.

Ultimately we have a squad that has very little depth, especially in comparison with our competitors who continue to strengthen. The addition of a player with premier league, champions league and cup final experience would be a boost. Plus he's only 23 and I'm sure Klopp will get more out of him than Arsene.

11 Jul 2017 14:50:00
Ljervis, that's what I am saying mate. He will surely want assured game time, and I don't see that we can offer him it.

11 Jul 2017 14:57:18
I can't remember an outcry when we didn't sign Zielinski.

11 Jul 2017 14:58:41
Would be quite happy if we sign Ox, probs not a first team player but definitly an improvement on the bench and with extra champions league games this year as well as cups, we'll need a bit more than just kids on the bench.

No doubt that we'll need to go out and spend a bit on class players to improve the starting 11 but I do understand why Klopp would want to bring Ox in as our bench last year season severly lacking most of the time.

11 Jul 2017 14:59:14
And zielinski has been fantastic for Napoli.

11 Jul 2017 15:16:16
Zielinski was a player that Klopp and most on this forum wanted us to get last season. When we didn't get him and we went for Wijnaldum people on this forum were criticising the transfer and questioning Klopp (the outcry Cobra) .

As it stands Wijnaldum has been an excellent addition.

Zielinski has had a good season though in Italy.

11 Jul 2017 15:19:59
I agree with a few points made above. Firstly, I don't think he will improve the starting 11 if everyone is fully fit. But. it's going to be a long season and everyone won't always be fully fit and injury free. Can he add something to the squad that we didn't have last year? Yes I think so. Worth a punt but not at the expense of a problem position being sorted.

11 Jul 2017 15:24:47
If we're going to win the quadruple this coming season we need players like Ox as fillers.

11 Jul 2017 15:50:44
He's a good player Ed2.

11 Jul 2017 15:51:20
He will be a great signing (if it happens) . Top player who will thrive under Klopp.

11 Jul 2017 16:53:56
Most of us agree we need a deeper bench. And most of us can see that Klopp likes versatile players. What's the problem with signing versatile players for the bench? I'm sure even Ox knows he will not start at either Arsenal or Liverpool, regardless of whom he chooses. If it mattered so much to him, then he would have talked with mid or lower table teams where his chances of starting are higher. People need to chill a bit and yes, read their posts, at least once, before posting.

11 Jul 2017 18:21:46
All well and good if he signs and the same with Robertson I will get behind both but my worries is that they improve the squad but not the first 11 what I think we should be doing first is improving the starting line up and then worry about the squad we're back in the champions league for the first time in ages so we need some special type of players that doesn't mean spending stupid money on a player I just want a signing or two that I can sit up and think that player will definitely improve the first 11 and I really don't get that with the 2 players I mentioned in saying that I'm happy with salah and it is still very early days in the window.

11 Jul 2017 18:24:58
Yeah ra he'd probably be an excellent buy for Everton hah
But no I like the idea of us buying him. He has got quality. He needs to show it a he'll of a lot more but sometimes a Fresh start and a move to a club with a different style of manager, play, and even fans can turn out to be a perfect fit.

11 Jul 2017 19:22:53
I agree with Ed002, I can't understand the reasons why we would sign a player that wouldn't improve one single starting position in our first eleven. He's a very average winger, a very poor full back and a woeful centre midfielder.

11 Jul 2017 21:31:36
Don't understand all the negativity towards Ox. He's a 100% player. Excellent athlete. Ticks all the boxes of a Kloppo player. I remember a few seasons ago against Arsenal. We were coasting it. All over Arsenal. Ox came on and Arsenal started to outplay us. He was running from deep with the ball causing us all sorts of problems. He won a penalty from Stevie G which they scored. Sometimes I wonder if people actually watch players. I rated Milner when he was a kid the moment I saw him. Some players just give it all.

11 Jul 2017 21:44:49
Dude, Oxlade wants (and is asking for) a centre midfield role. A role that he is not capable of, if you want to see the real Alex Oxlade Chamberlain, watch Arsenal getting humped 5-1 by Munich or France turning England over. You'll see a tactically inept footballer with very little in the way technique. You put him in the midfield against even mediocre opposition and we'd get a battering. He's a bench impact player at best.

11 Jul 2017 22:07:41
Ed02 will be silently hoping that LFC bag him instead of his fav team Chelsea.

Cheers.

11 Jul 2017 23:36:10
All you ox doubters are going singing his name in six months. Versatile is important and "if you know me" you are right. Can and lallana and coutinio are versatile and that is not a coincidence. It's what klopp wants as we assess the team sheet by looking at the opposition to look for weaknesses and tactics. It's also very handy for injuries ad these players can cover most positions. We have had a premier league legend playing left back for us. he is right footed. I think he's being bought for a forward/ winger. Great transfer. If kieta comes (which I think he will) then I think can will leave or go to bayern Munich. Or we have 5/ 6 cms? No striker. Ox will score goals.

12 Jul 2017 00:58:41
You're right ther super red.

Id actually say that klopp could put out a full team of 10 fit, box to box midfielders,

Good all rounders who can attack and defend as a unit and fit.

They could all interchange positions, even with the goalkeeper lol.

12 Jul 2017 09:08:19
Ox has never demonstrated before that he is capable of consistently scoring goals. Lacks composure. Like I say, no better than Andros Townsend.

11 Jul 2017 09:13:48
Anybody know if Robertson went with Hull city to Portugal this morning?

11 Jul 2017 09:58:06
I checked Hull's homepage but couldn't find anything.