Liverpool Rumours Archive November 11 2010

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11 Nov 2010 23:49:34
If players or relatives or anyone else from the club do read this site (as suggested by one of the Eds) perhaps they are using it to gauge fans' opinions about potential players (and dare I say it) replacement managers. Perhaps one or more of the Eds are in on it and have been dropping names in here and there to see what happens (I'd never heard of a lot of the players being bandied around nor had I ever heard of O'Driscoll - his name seemed so out of the blue - could that be a case of fans being sounded out). Anyway, why did Meireles go off last night?

Capt. Salty Grey
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Roy said he was ill before the game but he still wanted to play. Then at half time he was sick and unable to come out for the 2nd half.

Blair Mayne YNWA

11 Nov 2010 23:37:28
If players or relatives or anyone else from the club do read this site (as suggested by one of the Eds) perhaps they are using it to gauge fans' opinions about potential players (and dare I say it) replacement managers. Perhaps one or more of the Eds are in on it and have been dropping names in here and there to see what happens (I'd never heard of a lot of the players being bandied around nor had I ever heard of O'Driscoll - his name seemed so out of the blue - could that be a case of fans being sounded out). Anyway, why did Meireles go off last night?

Capt. Salty Grey

11 Nov 2010 23:35:14
This is the most realistic signings for January.

Sell:
babel 6 million
maxi 4 million
jova 4 million

Buy:
honda 11 million
n'zogbia 9 million
affellay 7 million

net spend = 13 million
Team
Renia
Kelly Skrtel Ayala Mavinga/ konchesky
Affellay Gerrard Lucas N'zogbia
Torres Honda
bench- jones, Wilson, johnson, miereles, cole, n'gog, pacheco/ shelvy
that's a fantastic squad with only 13 million spend.
Ed do you do this site as a living or personal enjoyment? Site rules

wanger {ed's note - personal enjoyment (well at times), all of the editors do it for that mate. I have some other websites I earn my living off which enable me to do this so much. Though at least the footie sites no longer cost money - I subsidised them for years, now they pay for themselves and for all the upgrades that get done.}

11 Nov 2010 23:29:56
11 Nov 2010 22:51:45
Stephen Ireland.

Get out the crap and let this lad shine, its not happening for him at villa, but he is a fantastic talent.

He's a good box to box player but also very similar to Meireles. We should concentrate on a DM, LM, F, LB and CB.

11 Nov 2010 23:27:29
11 Nov 2010 23:00:18
Hodgson said he wants 5 or 6 players in jan. with 30M to spend.
if this happens, it will be 5 average players, the cheapest u wud pay for world class is 15M. unless we pull off some real coups.

lol no one has said we have £30million to spend, , there is no budget, , , henry has clearly stated that, , , it will be tell me who u want we will look at him and see how much were willing to spend on that player, simpleesss now will ppl stop with the transfer budget cos there is no set amount

11 Nov 2010 23:13:02
LFC FANS * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

This is the first time i have ever disliked some LFC fans.
I cannot believe what a bunch of turn coats most of our fans are.
How can you all be saying hodgson out when he has only been in the job a couple of months?? ?
Hodgson has inherited the squad from Rafa, and we can all see that Rafa stitched us up big time in the end.
The players Hodgson brought during the summer was with a limited budget, so we cannot complain when he doesn't sign world class players.
I am a strong believer of Roy.
You guys need to bide time and wait for 1/ 2 seasons time.
We are heading in the right direction, we will make some very good signings during January and next summer.
As he has stated, Hodgson knows that alot of current squad members are not good enough, so expect to see the following leave in either january or the summer: -
Itandje
Insua
Degen
Jovanovic
Aquilani
Babel
El Zhar
We will then see some world class players arrive, such as: -
LB - Coentrao / Tawio
LW - Mata / Arda Turan
ST - Hulk / Llorente
These players will turn us into title contenders.
We will also see a large amount of english youth join our club.
The futures bright. . the futures hodgson

11 Nov 2010 23:10:50
All you 'so called' Liverpool fans wanting Roy Hodgson out already should be ashamed. We are only 12 games into the season with a new manager and new owners, and all this after a terrible last campaign and everybody seems to be expecting over night success?!
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I was a fan of Rafa overall but in fairness to Roy he was left a pretty poor squad bar a few stand out individuals (such as Gerrard, Torres, Reina etc. ). Liverpool FC have always been loyal and fair to managers and given them time so I don't see why now should be any different. Overnight success is not realsitic and all these 'fans' calling for Roys head should be ashamed. Give the man a chance at least. Dont judge this early on in his reign and for goodness sake start to get behind the manager and get behind the team.
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On a transfer rumour point. .
Would like to see an offer for Hulk made. Think he has the strength and pace to make it in the prem.

Cheers

11 Nov 2010 23:08:22
This is what Riijkards agent said last night about Rijkards future

"He wants to choose major European football teams in the Premier League or Calcio, " said Perry Overeen.

"I think that is attractive to a coach who showed in Barcelona he has the ability to manage in the best leagues in the world. He will surely be working in one or two months.

Fingers crossed this is a come and get me plea to LFC!

Blair Mayne YNWA

11 Nov 2010 23:07:02
Hello guys. Just fought I'd tell u what I seen. I got given tickets to sit in the directors box which will probly never happen again but it was awesome. When christian poulsen was substituted and all the fans cheered when he was leaving the pitch I looked across towards the napoli fans an seen john henry leaning forward lookin towards dalglish shakin his head. After the game we went the lounge an me an me mate was talkin to mark wright and david wier (ex everton player) an sed about what I seen and david said that john henry nos who r useless an who are good players and that he doesn't expect poulsen last until end of the season. I asked about signings and he's sed my guess is as good as his.

11 Nov 2010 23:00:18
Hodgson said he wants 5 or 6 players in jan. with 30M to spend.
if this happens, it will be 5 average players, the cheapest u wud pay for world class is 15M. unless we pull off some real coups.

11 Nov 2010 22:56:56
We haven't got a cat's chance in Hell of signing Hazard, Lukaku or Defour. All three want to go to man U or arsenal. Also the tie-up is not with GenT but with GenK and although de Bruyne plays for Genk
the link with club is not as strong as Genk expected. They thought that they would be borrowing young players from Liverpool but that has not occurred.
Mal 21

11 Nov 2010 22:55:54
11 Nov 2010 22:37:28
Please people we need a five year plan stadium/ manager/ under 23 signings + kids things carnt be fixed instantly everyone going in the same direction get rid off the bad apples and replace let time take it's toll

Bel give someone like hollaway the time
unbel some one like pellagreendog or along them lines

We need some one with passion and spirit thanks

yeah we need someone with passion but we also need someone with experience of top flight teams, , , we don't need a manager that's constantly fighting for survival, , or fighting to stay in mid table, , like roy hodgson, , ,

11 Nov 2010 22:53:30
The mirror online sports headline is 'Reina Quits' -he has said he will quit in January - is there any truth in this?

11 Nov 2010 22:51:45
Stephen Ireland.

Get out the crap and let this lad shine, its not happening for him at villa, but he is a fantastic talent.

11 Nov 2010 22:42:11
People on these pages need to get real with all the fancy global names being put forward as targets in Jan window, nesv bought lfc as a bussiness venture not a xmas toy such as man city and they will not overspend in the next transfer window perhaps they will keep funding available for the summer window to keep our present stars happy.
I would not grumble if we signed kevin Doyle as a short term striker option he would be a great asset to the team and proern p- league experience.
Also don't rule out Chris Brunt been mentioned here previously his crosses have to be seen to be believed total quality.
The above 2 players wouldn't break the bank and would be long term squad assets to our club.
Marco

11 Nov 2010 22:39:43
Straight from a players mouth today I won't mention his name but fact that players do not like poulson as a player or liked in dressing room many don't get on with him.

11 Nov 2010 22:37:28
Please people we need a five year plan stadium/ manager/ under 23 signings + kids things carnt be fixed instantly everyone going in the same direction get rid off the bad apples and replace let time take it's toll

Bel give someone like hollaway the time
unbel some one like pellagreendog or along them lines

We need some one with passion and spirit thanks

11 Nov 2010 22:26:44
I think we just need 4 players:
hulk- strong, pace and can score
honda- great vision
mata- got pace and is very young
coentrao- great left attacker and can defend

11 Nov 2010 22:21:55
11 Nov 2010 22:18:35
Carlton cole will sign in January the deals been done 9 million not to sure about this ed we deserve better I can see January being a big let down

if the deal was done im sure the press would know b4 u lol

11 Nov 2010 22:20:06
Liverpool SHOULD buy Aguero. . . Him and Torres would be awesome. . . . Village

11 Nov 2010 22:18:35
Carlton cole will sign in January the deals been done 9 million not to sure about this ed we deserve better I can see January being a big let down

11 Nov 2010 22:15:07
Liverpool to buy Hulk Honda and a CD/ RB

11 Nov 2010 22:11:43
11 Nov 2010 21:30:58
11 Nov 2010 21:23:54
Who would you prefer as future Liverpool manager!
Carragher - Believable
Gerrard - unBelievable

How bout neither ?
Remember the best players don't usually make the best managers, and average/ below average players usually make good managers - Mourinho/ Wenger so on so on !

LFC1

Lets analyse this further . . Kevin Keegan Great player . . Poor manager that's tactically inert and walks when the times become hard !

LFC1

Just to analyse even further - Alan Shearer. Scored bags of goals then got 5 out of 24 points as manager.

CumbrianScouse

Analyse again. Dalglish!
Last liverpool manager to win the league and his record speaks got its self

Bob Paisley? Decent player amazing manager. Matt Busby played for us good manager for the mancs. Simon Grayson great player for Leeds doing well at Leeds.

11 Nov 2010 22:09:17
Got talking to a Belgian lorry driver at work today. He was telling me how excited he was for the future of the Belgium team as he felt they would be very strong in a few years. We were discussing the like of Lukaku, Defour and Hazard, and he mentioned another player, Kevin De Bruyne, who plays for Gent. This driver had seen him play a bit and told me he was perhaps the best of the lot. He also added that he was expected to sign for LFC in the near future because of a tie-up between the two clubs. I don't know anything about De Bruyne, but was wondering if anyone knew if there was any truth to this?

11 Nov 2010 22:06:19
Gary cahill. £15 million
brett hangeland. .£9 million
honda. . . . .£9 million
juan mata. . .£16 million
andy carroll. .£15 million

total. 64 million

sell
babel. . . 8 million
poulson. .4 million
jovanavic. 3 million
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why two CBs? we have kyriagkos, skrtyl and carra still there for two years, maybe sell the greek? and get one CB in for now. also we got danny wilson, ayala, wisdom coming through the ranks.

i would say 10 mill for BREDE hangeland not brett.
Honda for about same
Coentrao, brilliant left back attacking and can defend too.- about 15 mill.
mata then would be good, for what 15-20 mill? that's about 55 mill
30 mill givenfrom owners
25 mill from sales of;
babel 8,
the greek 4-5,
jova 3,
poulsen 5, and more money from masch deal?

11 Nov 2010 21:57:35
LFC Rumours
there is only gonna be three or two ins this summer and three or two outs
ins
lb-cissokho/ taiwo 10-15mil
playmaker -honda 9mil
st- hulk 18mil

total 37mil

outs
poulsen-2mil
babel-6mil
aurelio-2mil

total 10mil

30mill from owners

40 -37 = 3 mill

3 mill for summer

black ops to the game

ed any thought! ! {ed's note - isn't Taiwo nearly out of contract? In which case he would be a lot less expensive.}

11 Nov 2010 21:44:40
We need a left back. .quickly. . .forget another striker . we have Kuyt and N'Gog to play up front with Nando. .I would rather see that than see Konchesky play for us again. . {ed's note - wouldn't you like to see Mavinga given a try considering Kelly's success on the right?}

11 Nov 2010 21:44:06
I agree with ED hulk and honda, , , aguero ok hes great in the spanish league where its slow enough for him to do his tricks, but english opposition roughing him up is he strong enough i don't think he is, , , i think hulk is strong enough look size of him lol, , , i think he will break defences up for torres to do his bit, , and he will grab goals while doing it, , , , and honda hes brilliant, , so is mata but idk i guess an asian player will help with business out that way we already have business in spain so lets branch out i know you will agree ED BUT WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK!

11 Nov 2010 21:37:10
11 Nov 2010 21:02:11
Y do all you fink were guna be signing 5+ players in jan it aint guna happen, the only player that will arrive is honda and hopefully hodgson wil be gone by xmas

might not be 5 but there will definitly be more than 1, , , the new owners will wanna make great first impression when it comes to there first transfer window they know we need more than 1 player to take us on for 4th spot atleast, , so they will get more than 1 player

11 Nov 2010 21:31:41
"Listen right we r nt in youth club, stevie is obviously talkin like a prpr pro nuffin else, he wudnt upst the apple cart hes bn pst tht n hes ea 4 life like carra.hes bin there hd the dilemma.nw hes tryin 2 help the clup
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Come on, not even a teenage girl could decipher those heiroglyphics.
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sorry mate, have tried. havent got a clue what this is supposed to be"


I think what the original poster meant to say:
'Listen chaps: we are a professional club not a youth center. Steven Gerrard was talking like the true professional that he is (not sure talking about what) and he would n't obviously criticise the manager (hierarchy) because he is past all that.He will be here for life like carragher , he has been through I am leaving dilemma and he is here to help the club'

leave him alone now, every body have the right to express their views in any way they know how.

To the original poster, what did stevie say?

Roy

11 Nov 2010 21:30:58
11 Nov 2010 21:23:54
Who would you prefer as future Liverpool manager!
Carragher - Believable
Gerrard - unBelievable

How bout neither ?
Remember the best players don't usually make the best managers, and average/ below average players usually make good managers - Mourinho/ Wenger so on so on !

LFC1

Lets analyse this further . . Kevin Keegan Great player . . Poor manager that's tactically inert and walks when the times become hard !

LFC1

Just to analyse even further - Alan Shearer. Scored bags of goals then got 5 out of 24 points as manager.

CumbrianScouse

Analyse again. Dalglish!
Last liverpool manager to win the league and his record speaks got its self

11 Nov 2010 21:29:21
Anyone willing to shake my hand on a £1000 bet that Poulsen never gets a Man of The Match award while he is at LFC?- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -i will bet you on my lovely wife

miccmak

£1000.00 is that all? your not that confident then.
I would place my house, season ticket & if he does i will hang myself lol

LFC1

I would personally bet my a*** virginity against poulsen winning owt to do with man o' the match. .unless he turns out for Liverpool birds team


The all seeing aaaaiiii


Now that weve stated this, you know whas gonna happen, the a*** isgonna put in a blinder in his next appearance, the im gonna be dead and your gonna have a sore a** !

LFC1

11 Nov 2010 21:29:15
Whats henry's twitter address?

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@John_W_Henry


CumbrianScouse

11 Nov 2010 21:27:37
Remember the best players don't usually make the best managers, and average/ below average players usually make good managers - Mourinho/ Wenger so on so on !

LFC1

Lets analyse this further . . Kevin Keegan Great player . . Poor manager that's tactically inert and walks when the times become hard !

LFC1

Just to analyse even further - Alan Shearer. Scored bags of goals then got 5 out of 24 points as manager.

CumbrianScouse

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or to go even further again. souness, great player. disaster as a manager

chris 1

11 Nov 2010 21:23:54
Who would you prefer as future Liverpool manager!
Carragher - Believable
Gerrard - unBelievable

How bout neither ?
Remember the best players don't usually make the best managers, and average/ below average players usually make good managers - Mourinho/ Wenger so on so on !

LFC1

Lets analyse this further . . Kevin Keegan Great player . . Poor manager that's tactically inert and walks when the times become hard !

LFC1

Just to analyse even further - Alan Shearer. Scored bags of goals then got 5 out of 24 points as manager.

CumbrianScouse

11 Nov 2010 21:21:47
11 Nov 2010 21:05:31
Anyone willing to shake my hand on a £1000 bet that Poulsen never gets a Man of The Match award while he is at LFC?- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -i will bet you on my lovely wife

miccmak

£1000.00 is that all?? your not that confident then.
I would place my house, season ticket & if he does i will hang myself lol

LFC1

I would personally bet my arse virginity against poulsen winning owt to do with man o' the match. .unless he turns out for Liverpool birds team


The all seeing aaaaiiii

11 Nov 2010 21:21:15
Bel - Hulk/ mata/ honda

Unbel - kevin doyle/ jarvis/ bentley

LOL

E.H LFC

11 Nov 2010 21:17:06
Wud luv 2 c
hulk up wit torres
andrew and glen.johnson on the wings,
wit gerrard n meireles in centre mid
cissoko n kelly full bks and
ayala n agger centre bks wit reina in goal

REINA
KELLY AYALA AGGER CISSOKO
G.JOHNSON MEIRELES GERRARD A.JOHNSON
HULK TORRES

just 3 new players and we wud ave a chance of winning the prem, do u agree ed?

also 4gt 2 point out theres 5 homegrown players in the team, evryone on here keep linking us with non english players. . {ed's note - it looks great on paper!}

MAy I ask is the A Johnson, Alf Johnson who plays for the Nags Head, cos theres no chance s* tty will sell Adam to us

LFC1

11 Nov 2010 21:15:12
Who would you prefer as future Liverpool manager!
Carragher - Believable
Gerrard - unBelievable

How bout neither ?
Remember the best players don't usually make the best managers, and average/ below average players usually make good managers - Mourinho/ Wenger so on so on !

LFC1

Lets analyse this further . . Kevin Keegan Great player . . Poor manager that's tactically inert and walks when the times become hard !

LFC1

11 Nov 2010 21:15:00
Dalglish, Liverpool's greatest ever player. According to Aldridge and Thomson, Gerrard now takes that mantle piece.
I know you can ague Dalglish's trophy cabinet but he also had great team mates behind him.
Gerrard has been a one man battle on many occasion's and is still admired all over the world.
So my question to you lot.
Who is the greatest ever.
Dalglish - believable
Gerrard - unbelievable

11 Nov 2010 21:13:22
Whats henry's twitter address?

11 Nov 2010 21:13:16
Wud luv 2 c
hulk up wit torres
andrew and glen.johnson on the wings,
wit gerrard n meireles in centre mid
cissoko n kelly full bks and
ayala n agger centre bks wit reina in goal

REINA
KELLY AYALA AGGER CISSOKO
G.JOHNSON MEIRELES GERRARD A.JOHNSON
HULK TORRES

just 3 new players and we wud ave a chance of winning the prem, do u agree ed?

also 4gt 2 point out theres 5 homegrown players in the team, evryone on here keep linking us with non english players. . {ed's note - it looks great on paper!}

11 Nov 2010 21:11:27
Who would you prefer as future Liverpool manager!
Carragher - Believable
Gerrard - unBelievable

How bout neither ?
Remember the best players don't usually make the best managers, and average/ below average players usually make good managers - Mourinho/ Wenger so on so on !

LFC1

11 Nov 2010 21:05:31
Anyone willing to shake my hand on a £1000 bet that Poulsen never gets a Man of The Match award while he is at LFC?- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -i will bet you on my lovely wife

miccmak

£1000.00 is that all? ? your not that confident then.
I would place my house, season ticket & if he does i will hang myself lol

LFC1

11 Nov 2010 21:04:51
Who would you prefer as future Liverpool manager!
Carragher - Believable
Gerrard - unBelievable

11 Nov 2010 21:03:01
I can tell you all Roy is not going anywhere till the end of the season. the first reason is that they feel he should be given till the end of the season and secondly there is no one available.


Also we will look for a striker and defenders in the January transfer window.

Cheers

Macca

11 Nov 2010 21:02:25
Listen right we r nt in youth club, stevie is obviously talkin like a prpr pro nuffin else, he wudnt upst the apple cart hes bn pst tht n hes ea 4 life like carra.hes bin there hd the dilemma.nw hes tryin 2 help the clup

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Have forwarded this to SETI (Search for extraterrestrial life).

Will keep you all posted regards any 'first contact' news.

11 Nov 2010 21:02:11
Y do all you fink were guna be signing 5+ players in jan it aint guna happen, the only player that will arrive is honda and hopefully hodgson wil be gone by xmas

11 Nov 2010 21:00:00
Gary cahill. £15 million
brett hangeland. .£9 million
honda. . . . .£9 million
juan mata. . .£16 million
andy carroll. .£15 million

TO THE NUMPTY WHO WROTE THIS, WE WILL NOT BE BUYING 2 CENTRAL DEFENDERS IN JAN AND PERSONNALY WE DONT NEED DEFENDERS OTHA DN A LB AS KELLY CAN REPLACE G.JOHNSON AT RB WEN WE PUSH HIM FORWARD AS A RW, HOWEVER I AGREE WIT HONDA AS HE STATED HE DESIRE TO PLAY FOR US AND THE OWENERS WANT HIM, I CRNT SEE MATA JOINING AS IM PRETY SURE HE WILL SIGN A NEW CONTRACT AND EVEN IF HE DONT BARCA HAVE 1ST OPTION ON HIM AND LASTLY I WUD LIKE TO SEE CARROLL SIGN BUR VERY MUCH DOUBT IT AS HE SEEMS TO FOLLOW BARTON'S WAY WIT TROUBLE - ED WOT U FINK? {ed's note - I agree mate, especially on Carroll, he is trouble and always will be.}

11 Nov 2010 20:57:53
I would like to see Andy Carrol partner Torres and N'Zogbia on right. Both would be a handful for any team

11 Nov 2010 20:56:18
Watching game in the pub last night and when woy came of the bench and started clapping like a madman, the whole boozer fell to bits with laughter. if this is what us fans are thinking, do the players think the same ?
also a lad from wigan i know phoned me today to say how poor we are! and to say wigan local paper saying nzogbia is on his way to L4

gaz1892

11 Nov 2010 20:53:52
Ed, is it true United pay half of Hodgsons wages? {ed's note - I don't think so somehow mate.}

11 Nov 2010 20:48:13
Carragher as player-manager should Hodgsongate not work out. Worth a shot! Look at Dalglish's career as Liverpool manager.

11 Nov 2010 20:47:55
{ed's note - Honda and Hulk for me, just to be awkard!}

I FINK MOST PPL WUD AGREE WIT U ED RATGE DN AGUERO N MATA

11 Nov 2010 20:45:23
You only have to look at players body language with each other and that tell you a lot. I think a lot to do with carra. They all seem to be arguing back at him when he gives orders. ( watch for it now iv said ) never ever have I seen body language like it is right now between Liverpool players. We need strong minded manager and stevie to stand up and give the team a good talking to even a few days away without training if at all possible ( get them drunk sort there diffs out then get back to being a team). One thing can be said this time last year it would have been all in papers with all the rest of are dirty washing.

Maybe its not in papers cos its in your imagination!

Kopitetillidie

11 Nov 2010 20:43:27
Aguero and honda-bel
hulk and mata-unbel

who would u ed ?

joker {ed's note - Honda and Hulk for me, just to be awkard!}

11 Nov 2010 20:42:39
11 Nov 2010 20:36:16
11 Nov 2010 19:35:57
Listen right we r nt in youth club, stevie is obviously talkin like a prpr pro nuffin else, he wudnt upst the apple cart hes bn pst tht n hes ea 4 life like carra.hes bin there hd the dilemma.nw hes tryin 2 help the clup
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Come on, not even a teenage girl could decipher those heiroglyphics.
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sorry mate, have tried. havent got a clue what this is supposed to be

chris 1

11 Nov 2010 20:36:16
11 Nov 2010 19:35:57
Listen right we r nt in youth club, stevie is obviously talkin like a prpr pro nuffin else, he wudnt upst the apple cart hes bn pst tht n hes ea 4 life like carra.hes bin there hd the dilemma.nw hes tryin 2 help the clup
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Come on, not even a teenage girl could decipher those heiroglyphics.

11 Nov 2010 20:34:59
You only have to look at players body language with each other and that tell you a lot. I think a lot to do with carra. They all seem to be arguing back at him when he gives orders. ( watch for it now iv said ) never ever have I seen body language like it is right now between Liverpool players. We need strong minded manager and stevie to stand up and give the team a good talking to even a few days away without training if at all possible ( get them drunk sort there diffs out then get back to being a team). One thing can be said this time last year it would have been all in papers with all the rest of are dirty washing.

11 Nov 2010 20:29:33
Danny Wilson fit enough to be called up for scotland but not fit enough to be on the bench for yesterdays match when there were no defenders in the subs. whats going on here ed?

True Red {ed's note - I don't know, that was a strange one as I wasn't aware of any problems with him and the staff seemed happy with him.}

First pachecho can't get on the bench (star of the u21 world cup i may add) and when we need strikers

Jova can't get a match when roy considers the players to be tired and hes and hes not even coming on as a sub

and now dannys not even on the bench

I'm starting to think woys no gentleman nice guy as presumed and has biases and against players to the extent of sabotaging the teams chances.

Last nights subs were a mystery to me. ed im starting to lose it

True Red

11 Nov 2010 20:19:19
Danny Wilson fit enough to be called up for scotland but not fit enough to be on the bench for yesterdays match when there were no defenders in the subs. whats going on here ed?

True Red {ed's note - I don't know, that was a strange one as I wasn't aware of any problems with him and the staff seemed happy with him.}

11 Nov 2010 20:16:24
11 Nov 2010 19:48:17
Ed, do any of the players come on this site?

GTH {ed's note - couldn't tell you mate, I know a few relatives do for sure though.}


That in itself is an answer though. .sorry abt that Ed.

GTH {ed's note - no worries mate.}

11 Nov 2010 20:10:55
Ray Wilkins. Despite the fact that his little journeys into management did not result in much he will be a far better candidate now having served under Scolari, Hiddink and Ancelotti.

Very interesting development. Will Liverpool go for him? He's young(ish), good track record and been involved in serious success with Chelsea. Has a cosmopolitan past as a quality player with big clubs and a 'boot-room' pedigree working his way from small clubs to being under Vialli and ultimately the three above.

Personally, I don't see him at Anfield but by being in the market again he may very well cause a merry-go-round of managerial changes which in turn may be of use to us.

RED LENIN

11 Nov 2010 20:05:52
Guys we really need a striker, depth in midfield, a LB and a winger (either left or right then Joe Cole/ Maxi can play on the other side).
So if we sell these players:
Babel (10M)
Poulsen (5M)

Then we can buy:
Keisuke Honda (10M)
Hulk/ Llorente/ Lisandro Lopez/ Aguero (15-25M)
Contreoa/ Cissoko (7-10M)
Payet/ Marin/ Mata/ Young/ Nzogbia/ Elia/ Reyes/ Arda Turan (10-17M)

Then we'd only be spending a total of 27-47M and if needed then Aquilani could be sold for 15M for funding.

All of these player have been linked to us. Now that NESV have employed a lot more staff for scouting and player signing decisions there won't be any more major fails when it comes to signings (e.g. voronin and poulsen). So it won't make a difference whether we have Roy or not - good players should be bought.

11 Nov 2010 20:02:31
Gary cahill. £15 million
brett hangeland. .£9 million
honda. . . . .£9 million
juan mata. . .£16 million
andy carroll. .£15 million

total. 64 million

sell
babel. . . 8 million
poulson. .4 million
jovanavic. 3 million

11 Nov 2010 19:53:26
Liverpool should definitly consider kevin doyle and hugo rodellega as they are hard workers and a hand full for any defense .and even n zogbia not just saying this because we just played wigan but ive been watchin the two wigan boys for the past couple of years now :)

11 Nov 2010 19:48:17
Ed, do any of the players come on this site?

GTH {ed's note - couldn't tell you mate, I know a few relatives do for sure though.}

11 Nov 2010 19:47:06
This is theturdz speaking
ED: WERE ARE THESE RAY WILKINS RUMOURS COMING FROM? DO YOU YOU THINK ITS JUST CRAP OR IS THERE SOMETHING IN THEM. {ed's note - they were not from me and no I don't believe a word of them.}

11 Nov 2010 19:36:44
11 Nov 2010 19:22:08
I'm sorry Ed, but i just don't see how you can say that there are problems between Roy and the players! Why would Stevie G come out this week and say that he is pleased that the team is starting to improve now and he is looking to the future. We have Torres on interview after the Chelsea game saying he is happy. So my question is, if they are not happy why do the interviews and why mention they are happy. They could quite easily deflect these basic questions iunstead of choosing to say what they have said.

Lets judge Roy and the squad at xmas! another couple of good wins and everyone will be saying, that they're pleased with what Roy is doing.

10 league games into managing a team is not long enough. {ed's note - I understand what you are saying, but players have to perform certain duties as part of their contract. Interviews with the media are a part of that, they also will be under orders as to what they are to say.}

SO YOU STILL MAINTAIN THAT THE PLAYERS WANT ROY OUT?!

that seems a real shame - he seems like a gentleman {ed's note - I do believe that, and I agree, none of them have ever had anything bad to say about him as a person either. It is not a personal thing, it is all about playing style and training methods.}

11 Nov 2010 19:35:57
Listen right we r nt in youth club, stevie is obviously talkin like a prpr pro nuffin else, he wudnt upst the apple cart hes bn pst tht n hes ea 4 life like carra.hes bin there hd the dilemma.nw hes tryin 2 help the clup

11 Nov 2010 19:23:46
Ed - what's the crack behind the scenes with team spirit etc ?
Is it so bad ?
Am getting worried that it's all gonna go t* s up at anfield.
As in, seriously t* s up !
KB {ed's note - I can't confirm anything right now mate, no one I know will say anything at the moment. There were a lot of problems behind the scenes, I would be surprised if they were solved though, they didn't seem like ones that could sorted without a clear out of playing staff.}

11 Nov 2010 19:22:43
GAY TIMES AHEAD AS GOMEZ WILL AGREE TO JOIN IN JAN FOR £18m

11 Nov 2010 19:22:08
I'm sorry Ed, but i just don't see how you can say that there are problems between Roy and the players! Why would Stevie G come out this week and say that he is pleased that the team is starting to improve now and he is looking to the future. We have Torres on interview after the Chelsea game saying he is happy. So my question is, if they are not happy why do the interviews and why mention they are happy. They could quite easily deflect these basic questions iunstead of choosing to say what they have said.

Lets judge Roy and the squad at xmas! another couple of good wins and everyone will be saying, that they're pleased with what Roy is doing.

10 league games into managing a team is not long enough. {ed's note - I understand what you are saying, but players have to perform certain duties as part of their contract. Interviews with the media are a part of that, they also will be under orders as to what they are to say.}

11 Nov 2010 19:15:42
Hello Ed,

Just a quick clarification if you don't mind. Was Comolli (sp?) hired as a consultant or on a permanent basis? It seems to me that if the latter were to be true that anyone dreaming of a top tier manager such as Mourinho, Hiddink or even Rijkaard is going to be sorely disappointed. Most of these guys are used to have final say in all football matters. Even at Real (or Inter), Mourinho is probably the one who submits a wish list and ends up getting exactly what he wants. I don't know if at Liverpool that would be the case. Also, if Liverpool get 10 out of 12 points does it really matter that Roy's not the greatest interview out there? Come on guys, if the players work their socks off, they'll win more matches than they will lose and that's a fact. Roy has an average squad at best and he is trying to figure out how to get the most out of them. Most of the people who post on this site forget to say what they would do when their 'ideal' 11 are locked in a nil-nil affair at Blackpool or West Ham. Do you make wholesale changes the next game or do you stick to your vision until the players get you a result? Everyone can manage a team on Fifa11, but when you're staring at the real deal things are much more complicated. {ed's note - as far as I am aware Comolli was hired on a permanent basis, well as permanent as can be in football anyway.}

11 Nov 2010 19:09:08
Quick word about Kevin Doyle ive bein watching him since he was a young kid learnig his trade in irish football(best player since paul mcgrath 2 come out of it)as a partner 2 torres he is ideal excellent in the air great at running with the ball he is a centre halfs nightmare takes on and beats defenders takes the knocks and gets on with it bags more ability than kuyt has bein a virtual 1 man team playing 4 ireland and wolves over the past few seasons and would b cheap

11 Nov 2010 19:07:28
- - - - - - - - - - - -Reina- - - - - - - - - Kelly- - - - - -Carra- - - - - -Wilson- - Coentrao-Affelay- - - - - Gerrard- - - - - -Honda- - -Mata- Torres- - Hulk
No defensive mids in this side (Honda & Gerrard could both cover as defensive mids if needed.)
All out attack minded football because "the best defense is a good offense". The jury is still out on (injury prone) Agger, although I consider him "World Class". I wouldn't sell the likes of Meireles, Kuyt, Cole, Lucas & Poulsen because there are six changes to this team including Wilson. I would gradually merge the new players in until they gel. Then the others would become experienced squad players used for tactical changes & injury cover. . Hulk £10 mill
Honda £9 mill
Coentrao £13 mill
Mata £18 mill
Affelay (free in summer)
Total = £50 mill (£30-£40 mill from + Masch, Aqua & player sales) So the money shouldn't be a problem & th players are young. I'd rather loose playing attractive attacking football than win or draw playing defensive.
Agree=Believable
Disagree=Unbelievable

11 Nov 2010 19:02:41
11 Nov 2010 17:58:54
11 Nov 2010 17:48:17
I think stage is being set up for Ray "Butch" Wilkins to be appointed new LFC manager. He has been with Chelsea since 2000 and should be credited the most for the success of that team. Apparently he is fed up of being always in the shadow of someone else. I feel that Martin Broughton has something to do with this.

LFC1954
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Overall I'm not really sure about this. I doubt it will happen but you never know. Wilkins genrally failed as a manager in the past at QPR and Crystal Palace. But maybe he fits NESVs bill i.e a well spoken, educated, educated in the world of football, a very good player and someone who may give the kids a chance. Maybe Steve Clarke will come with him. But as I said, I doubt it will happen.
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11 Nov 2010 19:01:30
Honda only moved to russia in the summer so I don't see where all this talk is coming from unless he has found it hard to settle there. He is defiantly gonna be a world beater tho. He's been on my radar for three years now and the lad is awesome

Ynwa samboss {ed's note - he has not settled at all and is desperate to get out, he has also talked up a move to Liverpool.}

11 Nov 2010 18:59:10
Anyone willing to shake my hand on a £1000 bet that Poulsen never gets a Man of The Match award while he is at LFC?- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -i will bet you on my lovely wife

miccmak

11 Nov 2010 18:58:52
11 Nov 2010 18:47:08
Has anyone ever mentioned that G. Agbonlahor would be a great copartner for Torres. He's young, fast and great scorer. . you forgot to say he's crap, over rated and no where near Liverpool quality!
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AVERAGE AND NOT A GOOD FINISHER.

11 Nov 2010 18:58:44
Current players - my team wud be - -

REINA
KELLY CARRA AGGER WILSON
JOHNSON MEIRELES SHELVEY COLE
GERRARD TORRES

SUBS-JONES.SKRTEL.KONK.LUCAS.AMOO.BABEL.KUYT

IF AGGER STILL INJURED THEN BRING BK AYALA

IN JAN TRANSFER WINDOW
HONDA - £9- 14M

ED - AGREE OR NOT? ?
EVERYONE ELSE DO U AGREE ON THE TEAM?
BEL - YES
UNBEL - NO

11 Nov 2010 18:56:13
Personally i think we should give Roberto Di Matteo the current manager of WBA, he plays good, fun, attacking football. He also has a win percentage of 53.33%. What are your views on this Ed and fellow fans? KopMad {ed's note - he has done really well, he would be one of the first men I would want to interview if I was choosing.}

11 Nov 2010 18:53:38
Hulk to patner torres? ?
bel - yes
unbel - no

11 Nov 2010 18:53:05
How old is diego who used to play for juve?

ed? {ed's note - the one who signed for Wolfsburg in the summer? If so he is 25 or 26 I think.

ed do you think we could get him in summer?

he could giv us a creative edge {ed's note - I doubt it very much, Wolfsburg are in no need of a sale.}

11 Nov 2010 18:53:02
G. Agbonlahor and a.young to solve our wing problems?
bel - yes
unbel -no

11 Nov 2010 18:52:19
Cissokko of lyon for lb??
bel - yes
unbel - no

11 Nov 2010 18:51:55
I have never seen Liverpool being managed poorly like yesterday's game. i am not saying this because of the result. i am just a simple liverpool fan but i can point out obvious many mistakes.
1. same 11 after 2 days in between for an away match after a very hard fought game against Chelsea.
2.Kuyt just got from injury and atleast it was obviously by half time that he was totally exhausted. Jovanovic could have worked harder and get hold of the ball after half time.
3. when wigan substituted in a striker we changed kuyt with poulsen. what is that?
4. A very young and confidence lucking player Shelvy was made to play on unfavorable postion.
5. Roy was sitting on his chair until 87th minute like we were playing and leading comfortably. no sense motivation or guidance from the stand.
6. until Gerard hit the post there was no off or on target shot on goal in 2nd half. and Roy didn't act at all.
7. what made Liverpool feared is the way we fight, the blood that flows on every liverpool fighter, lets be honest Spurs have had better depth of squad for a couple of years and we were still bigger. but yesterday after the seventh minute we were defending like Italians play when they lead 4-0 on a cup final. and we werent even good at it.
8. this speech of his after the game is really killing us. its like he never understands the fans. you never tell liverpool fans and players you really sucked and deserved to loose.
list goes on. . .
NESV . please fire Roy . if he stays longer he is gonna put us in a deep s* t and we will all forget it soon where we stand in a league and start cheering when we win Blackburn after 5 games of straight non win.

Cammolli please buy honda, Hulk (Lorentie) and Affelay. then many managers will be upto the challenge in January

if there is 100 believable 4 this may be some responsible people will understand our frustration
YNWA
miccmak

11 Nov 2010 18:49:29
Ed i hear alot ov rumours about hulk, are they jus that or is there any truth to them? {ed's note - he was unhappy and that was why they started, I don't know if he has settled down now or not though. But we have definitely taken a good look at him.}

11 Nov 2010 18:47:25
Sotiris ninis, supposed to be the next big thing ov greek football, i kno utd were after him over the summer an i can see why seems a good player with alot ov potential

ed your thoughts on a possible move for him? ? {ed's note - I don't know about him, he looks decent enough in Greek football, hard to say if he can raise himself for the English league though.}

11 Nov 2010 18:47:08
Has anyone ever mentioned that G. Agbonlahor would be a great copartner for Torres. He's young, fast and great scorer. . you forgot to say he's crap, over rated and no where near Liverpool quality!

11 Nov 2010 18:44:26
How old is diego who used to play for juve?

ed? {ed's note - the one who signed for Wolfsburg in the summer? If so he is 25 or 26 I think.}

11 Nov 2010 18:43:47
Do you think going on john w henrys Twitter page will really work ed? {ed's note - I don't know mate, but I don't see that any other way to contact him directly.}

11 Nov 2010 18:43:40
Pacheco first choice sub to replace Torres?

11 Nov 2010 18:42:48
Danny wilson central defence now?

11 Nov 2010 18:42:48
GUYS if we beat stoke which i doubt! please can we give roy NO support we want tht sooooooood gone FAST hes so depressing i love a manager who shouts at the players and gets passion going when hodgson is on the sideline biting his nails tht looks like no liverpool manager that just looks like a bloke hes just lost his job and can't face his missus.
YNWA!
Also all of you saying not kenny i kno whe isn't a world class manager but the only thing lacking is passion kenny would get us fired up and at least we'd want to win the game roy is happy ith 1-1 and if we get 2-1 hes over the moon
bel for kenny
unbel for stick with roy until new manager ( which is imperative )

11 Nov 2010 18:41:45
Taiwo left back?

11 Nov 2010 18:41:31
Ed, what do you think of soldado from Valencia {ed's note - he is alright, but there are a lot better players out there.}

11 Nov 2010 18:41:05
Honda attacking midfielder?

11 Nov 2010 18:40:57
Has anyone ever mentioned that G. Agbonlahor would be a great copartner for Torres. He's young, fast and great scorer. .

11 Nov 2010 18:40:23
Mata left side midfield?

11 Nov 2010 18:39:36
Turan right side midfield?

11 Nov 2010 18:36:41
I've heard Real Madrids Mourinho is top summer target.
Have you heard anything Ed? I think he would be a great manager. What do you think? {ed's note - er no mate, nice dream though.}

11 Nov 2010 18:34:28
Maybe roys time is coming to a end if rumours are true gus hiddink was in the uk a couple of weeks ago now ray Wilkins contract has ended maybe they will link up again at liverpool plus we've been linked with this russian guy from zenit you heard it here first

Ratdog

11 Nov 2010 18:32:42
'11 Nov 2010 18:14:44
Would you like aguero as our stricker?'

I'd much rather he was our striker.
Numpty.

Redjinal

11 Nov 2010 18:23:32
So he's your brother too

11 Nov 2010 18:17:50
My fathers daughters brother heard through the grapevine that NESV are looking to bring in a certain Mr Landon Donovan

11 Nov 2010 18:16:29
A SNOWBALLS CHANCE IN HELL OF
SLAP HEAD WILKO BEING APPOINTED LIVERPOOL MANAGER MANCTW@

11 Nov 2010 18:14:44
Would you like aguero as our stricker?

11 Nov 2010 18:12:13
PEPE will go if ROY is still the manager in the summer 100% true
Also TORRES will see this as the final straw and demand a move away
AGGER set to move in JAN coz of ROY
In fact ROY has very few friends at LIVERPOOL as he was always a short term fix and was only ment to see the take over through, and the players know that and that the problem with ROY he now wants to overstay his welcome
1 good half agaist CHELSKI has safeguarded ROY for the time being

11 Nov 2010 18:06:50
Ray Wilkins is another defensive first coach. Why would we need another one? Not to mention is Manure conection. No thanks.

11 Nov 2010 17:58:54
11 Nov 2010 17:48:17
I think stage is being set up for Ray "Butch" Wilkins to be appointed new LFC manager. He has been with Chelsea since 2000 and should be credited the most for the success of that team. Apparently he is fed up of being always in the shadow of someone else. I feel that Martin Broughton has something to do with this.

LFC1954
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Overall I'm not really sure about this. I doubt it will happen but you never know. Wilkins genrally failed as a manager in the past at QPR and Crystal Palace. But maybe he fits NESVs bill i.e a well spoken, educated, educated in the world of football, a very good player and someone who may give the kids a chance. Maybe Steve Clarke will come with him. But as I said, I doubt it will happen.

11 Nov 2010 17:55:46
There are a lot of posts regarding us signing Doyle. We already have Dirk Kuyt who is essentially the same player. Kuyt will run his legs off for the team, but unfortunately he just doesn't have the required level of skill if we are to push on and get back to winning silverware. Anyway we'd probably only end up playing him as a winger
==================================

Seriously Tommy, take a look at Doyle playing. While Kuyt does work his socks off he loses the ball too much or doesn't control it correctly in the first place. Doyle has excellent control and use of the ball, he is technically a very good player and was so unlucky not to score against Arsenal last night with very good shots off his left foot, right foot and a header that if it had gone in would have been goal of the season. He came to the professional game late has inproved each year and taken each step up in his stride.

11 Nov 2010 17:49:30
Why is ROY after C COLE?

Senior career apps inc England and England under21
223 games with a return of 45 goals, and I don't think he has ever scored more than 1 goal in a game.

NESV are right not trust ROY with cash

11 Nov 2010 17:48:17
I think stage is being set up for Ray "Butch" Wilkins to be appointed new LFC manager. He has been with Chelsea since 2000 and should be credited the most for the success of that team. Apparently he is fed up of being always in the shadow of someone else. I feel that Martin Broughton has something to do with this.

LFC1954

11 Nov 2010 17:44:14
Being realistic noting the squad size and players signed in last window the aim for the next transfer window has to be the addition to the 25 man squad of 4 players:

2 less experienced players of very good quality / world class potential

2 experienced players that already possess proven world class ability that can go straight in to the starting line up.

My educated guess is that in January "The Camel" will be looking for NESV to sanction the release of funds to purchase:

*Under 23yrs old QUALITY FULL BACK (£5 -£12m)
*Under 23yrs old QUALITY WINGER (£7-£15m )
*HONDA (£9 - £15m)
*A WORLD CLASS STRIKER (£15-£30m)

There is no doubt NESV and their main Liverpool supporter Shareholder will want value for their money and will not gamble on the world class striker's ability therefore expect initial bids being made for a top striker i.e. Bent, Tevez, Augero, Fabiano, Llorente. If that fails expect bids for Hulk, Suarez and Lavezzi etc to be made. There will be NO bid for Carlton "I've never scored a brace in the EPL" Cole! This was Roy's idea and a bad one at that.

Despite wanting to be perceived as only engaging in transfers which offer value for money, NESV will spend top money on proven ability this window. I am sure they will and to quote themselves they under promise and over deliver.

11 Nov 2010 17:44:12
Maybe, just maybe, we need to stop baaming him and look at the players involved - maybe they had it too easy under Rafa! {ed's note - Danny Murphy moaned about the training and how repetitive and boring it was, how it was designed to stop the team from conceding but very little thought given to attacking football.}
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Come on ed, I'm not a fan of Roy's ways and I don't believe he is a long term manager but Danny Murphy was overall very complimentary of Hodgson. what you're doing above is taking one part of what he said out of context to suit your agrument against Hodgson. we hate it when some in the press do this to attack Liverpool so lets not do it to ech other {ed's note - I agree he was complimentary about Roy, but he was talking about how Roy had done well with Fulham. I agree he did well with Fulham and I also thought he would be good at settling the ship and getting things back on an even keel until a takeover was completed. But surely it is obvious that, nice guy that he is, he is not the man to take the club forward?}

11 Nov 2010 17:40:46
Ed, what do you think of Jorge Jesus, manager of Benfica as a manager for us? Attacking football, a winner, and could potentially bring the likes of Coentrao, Luiz and Cardozo to the club. {ed's note - I am not sure mate, I don't know enough about him. But Coentrao would be great and attacking football would be so nice after all these years of Ged, Rafa and now Roy.}

11 Nov 2010 17:30:39
Ed is it true woy said if reina is still unhappy in the summer then he can leave {ed's note - not really mate, he just said that it would be dealt with in the summer if he wants to go. He never said he can leave, that is just the papers putting spin on it.}

11 Nov 2010 17:28:35
Ed wats Dimitri Payet like never seen him? {ed's note - to be honest I am not sure, I have not seen a lot of French football recently, but from what I can gather he mainly plays as a winger but can play pretty much anywhere across the front or as an attacking midfielder. I couldn't tell you if he was quick or strong or good in the air though.}

I watch a lot of french football and in a nutshell hes a pretty good player, hes fast, good on the ball, has creativity & flair, pretty good crosser and possible most importantly consistant. but tbh i wouldn't pay any more than 10mil for him, ED do you think we will get him ?
MansfieldRED {ed's note - just pretty good? Is he going to be good enough to be a first team player for the future? I think we have a chance, but it is hard to say as it is going to be down to Comolli and NESV to decide where the money will be spent.}

I say pretty good as he won't set the EPL alight, but he will definately do the job well and give width. I think he could be excellent player with some nurturing

MansfieldRED {ed's note - do we not need better than that though? I mean shouldn't we be looking for players who will set the league alight? Otherwise it would just leave us in the same position as we already are with squad players rather than top players.}

ED your probably right but i'm not sure we can attract world class players at the moment. but if i were to choose a top winger from france i would pick gervinho and i think he'd cost about 15m, not sure if he'll come though

MansfieldRED

11 Nov 2010 17:28:16
Juan mata, keisuke honda and the hulk. that would set the world alight ed, not just the premier league.
RedSox69

11 Nov 2010 17:27:22
11 Nov 2010 17:00:33
I think Tosh would do a better Job than Kenny and Roy at this moment.I don't think you can compare managing Wales to liverpool simply because it his a different way of dealing with players at Liverpool they can't cry off, and the point about young players is a plus. Roy Hodgson won't give Mavinga a chance Let Ayala go out on loan. in my opinion our lack of defensive players who can distribute the ball instead of Hoofers is a major problem. Kenny hasnt managed for 10 years and at least Tosh as stayed in the game. He isn't my first choice in an ideal world that would be Hiddink or Rijkaard. My point was to the people wanting Kenny back.

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Yeah but you say players can't cry off, what did Mascherano do?

Welsh Steve

11 Nov 2010 17:20:18
Evening ed just seen on Ssn that Bolton may have to sell some players just wonder what you think about us trying to get g.cahill est 15 million .cheers psv elnino
{Editor's note - He is a very good defender and is still young}

11 Nov 2010 17:00:33
I think Tosh would do a better Job than Kenny and Roy at this moment.I don't think you can compare managing Wales to liverpool simply because it his a different way of dealing with players at Liverpool they can't cry off, and the point about young players is a plus. Roy Hodgson won't give Mavinga a chance Let Ayala go out on loan. in my opinion our lack of defensive players who can distribute the ball instead of Hoofers is a major problem. Kenny hasnt managed for 10 years and at least Tosh as stayed in the game. He isn't my first choice in an ideal world that would be Hiddink or Rijkaard. My point was to the people wanting Kenny back.

11 Nov 2010 16:59:35
11 Nov 2010 16:52:26
11 Nov 2010 11:13:03
Ed wats Dimitri Payet like never seen him? {ed's note - to be honest I am not sure, I have not seen a lot of French football recently, but from what I can gather he mainly plays as a winger but can play pretty much anywhere across the front or as an attacking midfielder. I couldn't tell you if he was quick or strong or good in the air though.}

I watch a lot of french football and in a nutshell hes a pretty good player, hes fast, good on the ball, has creativity & flair, pretty good crosser and possible most importantly consistant. but tbh i wouldn't pay any more than 10mil for him, ED do you think we will get him ?
MansfieldRED {ed's note - just pretty good? Is he going to be good enough to be a first team player for the future? I think we have a chance, but it is hard to say as it is going to be down to Comolli and NESV to decide where the money will be spent.}

I say pretty good as he won't set the EPL alight, but he will definately do the job well and give width. I think he could be excellent player with some nurturing

MansfieldRED {ed's note - do we not need better than that though? I mean shouldn't we be looking for players who will set the league alight? Otherwise it would just leave us in the same position as we already are with squad players rather than top players.}

11 Nov 2010 16:52:26
11 Nov 2010 11:13:03
Ed wats Dimitri Payet like never seen him? {ed's note - to be honest I am not sure, I have not seen a lot of French football recently, but from what I can gather he mainly plays as a winger but can play pretty much anywhere across the front or as an attacking midfielder. I couldn't tell you if he was quick or strong or good in the air though.}

I watch a lot of french football and in a nutshell hes a pretty good player, hes fast, good on the ball, has creativity & flair, pretty good crosser and possible most importantly consistant. but tbh i wouldn't pay any more than 10mil for him, ED do you think we will get him ?
MansfieldRED {ed's note - just pretty good? Is he going to be good enough to be a first team player for the future? I think we have a chance, but it is hard to say as it is going to be down to Comolli and NESV to decide where the money will be spent.}

11 Nov 2010 16:49:36
{ed's note - he doesn't have the transfer kitty anyway, Comolli does, Roy is not in charge of transfers.}

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Editor will that change if a new manager comes in? {ed's note - that would be up to NESV, it is unlikely though.}

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I'm curious, do you think that this will affect our ability to recruit new managers? I would imagine that some managers, especially the top ones, would want full control of a squad, including transfers. Ed?

Mark {ed's note - some managers prefer that kind off set up mate, so it could be as much of a plus as a minus.}

11 Nov 2010 16:42:00
As Liverpool Football Clubs manager, Roy Hodgson should have the backing of every TRUE liverpool fan. .
Give the man a chance for christs sake!

He inherited a fu* ed up infrastructure both on and off the pitch also a team of injured misfits and now people are demanding a treble winnig season. . .fickle or what. .
Roy should be given a medal for even agreeing to take this job on as he was well aware of the situation regarding the owners and player unrest, where as he could've stayed at the "cottage and basked in the glow of a europa final place and tried to improve his teams league finishing place and therefore almost cementing his next job as England manager. . .
Roy has gave up a lot for this exclusive job. . lets cut the man some slack. . .

bel agree, unbel dis. . . . ,

KING KENNY07

11 Nov 2010 16:37:56
11 Nov 2010 16:30:29
I loved watching KK team in the late 80s, but to be fair he did have Sir Bob, upstairs and Ronnie, Roy , and Thomo in the bootroom, and they were all shanklys boys. That era as gone I am like Ed on this you can't go back, it wouldn't be fair on Kenny.I would think Toshack could bring stabilty.He would have been my short term fix.Knows the shankly way, have a connection with the spanish lads, having spent so long in spain and don't forget he took swansea up three divisions. I remember him bringing them to anfield he wore a swansea track suit over a Liverpool shirt. They got a 2-2 draw.Yes i know he he refused us in 1990. Anyway I think Tosh before Kenny.
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Seriously mate, i'm welsh and i wouldn't wish Toshack as a manager on anyone (well actually probably a 2 or 3 clubs), already he not afraid to give the youngsters a go but he is a s* t man manager and no one wanted to play for him. Top player and did his bit for swansea, but if you wanna save kenny by not ruining his legend, then you have to think of tosh in the same way. .leave him be!

Welsh Steve

11 Nov 2010 16:37:05
To throw my two pence worth into the arguement that seems to starting on here between posters and the ED. Actually armchair fans are probably more important to clubs than those attending the matches. The money clubs are given through Sky and other TV rights from around the globe, which is generated from armchair fans far outweighs gate reciepts. I am Welsh and it costs me well over £100 to come and watch a game, which throughout the course of the season gets very expensive. I would love to go to every Home and Away game but it is just not feesible for me, but it doesn't make me any less of a fan, or my views any less important than a season ticket holder.

Tommy Walsh

11 Nov 2010 16:34:41
11 Nov 2010 15:29:18
NO BULL

Ray Wilkins has been approached by LFC as an immediate replacement for Roy Hodgson.

The REAL insider

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Can't see this happening myself big step up to managing at liverpool, would snap him up to replace Sammy with out a moments notice though, to compliment a manager like Guus Hiddink - not to make our beloved club chelsea rejects, but they got the quality experience we need - i would say this is more likely.

Welsh Steve

11 Nov 2010 16:30:29
I loved watching KK team in the late 80s, but to be fair he did have Sir Bob, upstairs and Ronnie, Roy , and Thomo in the bootroom, and they were all shanklys boys. That era as gone I am like Ed on this you can't go back, it wouldn't be fair on Kenny.I would think Toshack could bring stabilty.He would have been my short term fix.Knows the shankly way, have a connection with the spanish lads, having spent so long in spain and don't forget he took swansea up three divisions. I remember him bringing them to anfield he wore a swansea track suit over a Liverpool shirt. They got a 2-2 draw.Yes i know he he refused us in 1990. Anyway I think Tosh before Kenny.

11 Nov 2010 16:15:53
To the so-called editor in the know who claims not be encouraging people to campaign against the current manager. Explain the following reply to one of the idiots who wants to swamp the new owners with Tweets protesting against the manager:

10 Nov 2010 22:21:29
{ed's note - I think you need to swamp his twitter page mate.}

Not sure how this slipped your mind, given that the comment was made yesterday. Selective memory? Or are you just too embarrassed to admit your own involvement today?

By the way I have never referred to another fan as a 'plastic'. I just think actually attending matches is important. All clubs need a genuine fan base. As I said before, what our club doesn't need is you. {ed's note - nope, never slipped my mind, that was a response to a question about how would they go about putting pressure on NESV. That was not me saying I agree with it, or me saying I would get involved, it was merely an answer to a question. I have been to plenty of matches mate, I will go again in the future, but I don't see how that makes you a better fan like you seem to think. I really don't care if you don't think the club needs me or not, your opinion is completely irrelevant, I will always be a Liverpool fan whether you like it or not.}

11 Nov 2010 16:15:19
Alright chaps iv set up a facebook page to rid of roy

just search Roy-out Of-lfc

what an idiot - get a job !


Please stop being a fool , we need support not a negative repribate bringing us all down!
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Let me guess your a season ticket holder for last 60yrs and seen it all, and it looks like your lowering the tone with your personal attacks matey. As you have seen the opinion on Roy is pretty much split down the middle or in favour of him going.This site is for constructive criticism and debate of which you offered none in your post

11 Nov 2010 16:09:19
JAN IN'S
DANN SHAWCROSS MATA JARVIS EDWARDS HONDA GOMEZ

JAN OUT'S
JOV JOHNSON AGGER MAXI BABEL

SUMMER OUT'S
KUYT PEPE TORRES

SUMMER KITTY FOR THE NEW MANAGER £100M

11 Nov 2010 16:04:32
To the lad that posted that shane long should partner robbie keane, are you having a laugh mate, keane is washed up, too slow and past it, shane long and doyle is the way ahead. I agree on doyle at the pool though a bit too alike kuyt i think, a hard grafter, great in the air but not enough end product and not enough class to partner torres!

11 Nov 2010 16:02:58
Ed,
Have u heard Anderletch are keen on jovanovic. And jova said i know of their interest and they are the best in belgum. I hope that he does leave, but he said that he won't quit.
I was just hoping comoli could make a deal of a Jovanovic + money for Lukaku.
Fingers crossed.

Harry5:) {ed's note - that does seem a great deal, Lukaku looks like a future great.}

11 Nov 2010 15:53:56
Press bel if you would like to see roy leaving

OR

Press unbel if you would rather like pacheco, agger, mavina, reina leaving

your choice

11 Nov 2010 15:52:16
Why bother taking a chance on an unproven (at premier league level) 53 year old in O'Driscoll when you could have someone like Owen Coyle who has done a great job with two teams in the prem and is ten years younger?

11 Nov 2010 15:50:40
Ed wats ur view on king kenny taking over {ed's note - I would prefer to look for someone who is still fully involved in management myself. I don't think Kenny is anything other than a short term answer.}

has the game really changed that much since kenny last managed ( apart from the money )its still played the same way . {ed's note - there are lots of other things involved in management other than just what happens on the pitch.}

11 Nov 2010 15:33:02
11 Nov 2010 11:42:08
Kenny is the only manager worth a look at. He has done it as a player and a LFC manager before. Lets see how many support this suggestion. Am sure we have the wrong man in time at LFC.
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LET KENNY HAVE THE JOB UNTIL THE END OF MAY AND SEE HOW HE DOES.

11 Nov 2010 15:30:31
On Kevin Doyle. I agree with the editor. Kevin Doyle plays his heart out all the time, but his best is not good enough. Athletic, but too robotic and predictable. Doesn't put away enough chances either. I'm Irish and would prefer to see Shane Long over Kevin Doyle as a partner for Robbie Keane in the international side. On the rumour side, there has been sustained interest in Wigan's James McCarthy, whether his injury has changed that or not I don't know.

11 Nov 2010 15:30:26
{ed's note - Danny Murphy moaned about the training and how repetitive and boring it was, how it was designed to stop the team from conceding but very little thought given to attacking football.}
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Yes I have seen this said before. But I also thought Danny Murphy was on Sky Sports and various radio stations in June and July saying Liverpool had appointed the right manager and that Hodgson would be a success as he is very methodical a very good coach. {ed's note - he may well have said that, but that doesn't mean he is correct about how successful Roy would be, that was just an opinion.}

11 Nov 2010 15:29:18
NO BULL

Ray Wilkins has been approached by LFC as an immediate replacement for Roy Hodgson.

The REAL insider

11 Nov 2010 15:27:20
Ok thanks ed. So by my calculations, NESv took over on the 15th of October, that was 27 days ago so if they did want to get rid of him it is likely to be tomorrow because it would be cheeper? {ed's note - that is if it is from the day the takeover began. The Man City takeover took a couple of months to actually fully complete, I don't know how the clause is worded to know exactly when the date would be.}

11 Nov 2010 15:26:26
Bolton have announced they need to sell Cahill and others in order to balance the books. Cahill has already stated he wants to join one of the big teams. If Agger goes, Cahill might be a good replacement for around £12m.

11 Nov 2010 15:24:56
Just wondering. for the ed hat seems to know a bit of inside knowledge. .do you know of any players or people within the liverpool ranks past or present that look at this site or even comment. not looking for names. just wondering?

redross {ed's note - yes mate, I have been pulled up on things said in the past because of it!}

11 Nov 2010 15:24:25
Ray Wilkins has just left his post at chelsea. . am i reading too much into this. . ha !

11 Nov 2010 15:23:49
11 Nov 2010 15:02:26
Trust me i have a source at LFC close to RH who has stated LFC are looking to offload Glenn Johnson in January possibly to Juventus. It is for non footballing reasons. Youn heard it hear first.
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already known on here that he's gone in january, plus dani agger and pacheco. .
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Johnson is set to join Malaga in January for 17m Euros on a very lucrative 4 and a half year contract. Malaga are now owned by a very wealthy Qatari who wants them in the Champions League in the near future.

11 Nov 2010 15:22:10
IDIOTS

If people are going to slag RH off when the team loses or draws, suck it up and congratulate him when he wins.

IDIOTS

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Why? We should expect to win. Anyway, there was a mention of Eden Hazard being scouted by Liverpool in a french football magazine recently. Hazard, Honda and Llorente would be my first choices.

11 Nov 2010 15:20:33
Ed wats ur view on king kenny taking over {ed's note - I would prefer to look for someone who is still fully involved in management myself. I don't think Kenny is anything other than a short term answer.}

11 Nov 2010 15:17:34
{ed's note - he doesn't have the transfer kitty anyway, Comolli does, Roy is not in charge of transfers.}

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Editor will that change if a new manager comes in? {ed's note - that would be up to NESV, it is unlikely though.}

11 Nov 2010 15:13:35
To this post:
"The team beat chelsea the wkend because of the overwhelming support the team gets at home from playing the big teams making the team perform. it had nothing to do with hodgeson believe yes unbelievable no"

Amazing. And most people supported this comment! So, we beat Chelsea purely because it was a big home game with massive support behind the team. Nothing to do with the manager. So that's why we always win the big games at home. . um. . wait. .something wrong here. .

IDIOTS

If people are going to slag RH off when the team loses or draws, suck it up and congratulate him when he wins.

IDIOTS

11 Nov 2010 15:10:45
Hey ed. Can you please explain to me what this 28 day clause in Roys contract is? I don't quite understand. . When and what are the 28 days? {ed's note - well, according to Christian Purslow, in Roy's contract there was a clause placed in it to ensure he could be removed easily in the event of a takeover. It allows new owners to pay a set sum (I think it was £6m but I can't remember off the top of my head) to remove him from his job any time within 28 days of the completion of a takeover.}

11 Nov 2010 15:07:38
No big singings untill the summer so stop getting a bone on and look at some real possibilities

team to end season
reina carra skrtel kon gerrard lucas cole kuyt raul and fernado(world class)

p.s lucas gerrard torres and a bit of luck won us the chelsea game

mustifer

11 Nov 2010 15:05:51
I think our win at bolton was extremely lucky mate!

Harry5:)

11 Nov 2010 15:04:36
Kenny is the only manager worth a look at. He has done it as a player and a LFC manager before. Lets see how many support this suggestion. Am sure we have the wrong man in time at LFC.


I have said this before, Kenny left us in the learch after the 4-4 draw with the toffees. He saw he had an ageing team that needed a drastic overhaul and didn't want to be labelled the man who ended the era. He left that mantle to Souness after he left. I love Kenny for the player and the manager, but he had his time. I agree with Ed, I would go for O'Driscoll.

YNWA

11 Nov 2010 15:04:03
Poulson is being rumoured to be loaned back to juventus in january with a view of a permanent sell in january.

11 Nov 2010 15:02:53
Ed would u like doyle(10mil) and jarvis(6mil)
team after jan
Reina
kelly- agger- the greek-koncesky
jarvis- gerrard- merriels(spelling)- cole
doyle- torres-

doyle can hold the ball up and played great all last season.
jarvis would run at defenders and give good ball in to the forwards.

jus a thought

joker93 {ed's note - not for me on Doyle, that would be doing the same thing Rafa made the mistake of doing - buying average squad players. He is just not good enough in my opinion.}

11 Nov 2010 15:02:26
Trust me i have a source at LFC close to RH who has stated LFC are looking to offload Glenn Johnson in January possibly to Juventus. It is for non footballing reasons. Youn heard it hear first.

already known on here that he's gone in january, plus dani agger and pacheco. .

11 Nov 2010 14:43:56
Liverpool never to win an away game while Roy is still in charge?

Believable

Unbelievable They guys a tactical genius subbing kuyt for poulsen! We needed to take the game to Wigan rather than goes defensive so he should of brought Jovanovic or Eccleston on they can both play wide or upfront. not looking forward to the Stoke game!


RedDan

Sorry, but didn't we win at Bolton?

Kopitetillidie

11 Nov 2010 14:40:50
11 Nov 2010 14:19:32
Who thinks a manager like Di Matteo or Martinez would do well as Liverpool manager


Both are 10 times better options than RH.

Not sure they would be preferable. What we have lacked for many years is a team that plays great football, not for the results, but because no matter what, the fans and the crowd has been entertained. I think a manager like Sean O'driscoll would be very interesting. He's not a big name, but he could surely become one.

11 Nov 2010 14:40:03
Trust me i have a source at LFC close to RH who has stated LFC are looking to offload Glenn Johnson in January possibly to Juventus. It is for non footballing reasons. Youn heard it hear first.

11 Nov 2010 14:25:08
Liverpool Legend . . . . . . Pegguy Arphexad! !

11 Nov 2010 14:24:27
Is there anyone who will shake my hand on a £1000 bet that Poulsen never gets a man of the match award whilst playing for LFC? ?

11 Nov 2010 14:20:45
Liverpool are going to sign Carroll or bent, bentley, young, noble, Cahill and Honda(Market assets).
Out will be agger, maxi, babel, poulsen and jova out on loan.

11 Nov 2010 14:19:32
Who thinks a manager like Di Matteo or Martinez would do well as Liverpool manager


Both are 10 times better options than RH.

11 Nov 2010 14:17:08
To the personwho posted this
11 Nov 2010 14:03:37
I you are to believe the press, we will sign Honda, but at what cost, I think if he comes in we are bound to get rid of either Babel of Jovanovic to balance the books. By the way, who has even seen him play. .I know I haven't so can people stop jumping on the bandwagon and advocating names when they don't even know if they are any good or not.

Fatboy76

I saw him play In the world cup out in south Africa. Watching and talking to the japan fans he is quality everytime he got the ball u could sense something was going to happen he is great withboth feetand good in air.
He is just the type of player we need. Young shirt sales and sell on value what u you think ed? {ed's note - I think he is top class, absolutely brilliant player, good in dead ball situations as well, his left foot is fantastic.}

11 Nov 2010 14:15:58
Fatboy76 look him up on yt plenty of good vids of him.can win games on his own i would love him at lfc,
jimmybosun

11 Nov 2010 14:03:37
I you are to believe the press, we will sign Honda, but at what cost, I think if he comes in we are bound to get rid of either Babel of Jovanovic to balance the books. By the way, who has even seen him play. .I know I haven't so can people stop jumping on the bandwagon and advocating names when they don't even know if they are any good or not.

Fatboy76

11 Nov 2010 13:50:21
11 Nov 2010 13:04:12

Alright chaps iv set up a facebook page to rid of roy

just search Roy-out Of-lfc

what an idiot - get a job !


Please stop being a fool , we need support not a negative repribate bringing us all down!

11 Nov 2010 13:43:48
Comolli has been brought in to allow King Kenny to take over the managers position at the club when NESV exercise their option to replace Hodgson . Kenny's coaching abilities have never been in doubt but he feels out of touch with transfers and scouting. Expect the announcement soon

Please god tell me you are serios and have a reliable source?

11 Nov 2010 13:42:33
The fans are split on Roy's future so lets put it to a vote

Bel=stay Unbel=go

11 Nov 2010 13:41:18
Liverpool in jan are going to sell: agger, skrtel, soto, babel, maxi. Poulsen and jova will go out on loan to get them off the wage bill till the summer when they will be sold.
Liverpool will sign 2cb, 2lm, 2rm, 1cm that's it
They wil sign:cb= cahill and hangeland, lm= payet and Honda, rm= bentley and hazard/ hulk cm= matuidi. Kuyt will be used as a striker. And emanuelson is going to be signed on a pre contract.

11 Nov 2010 13:37:13
To ed . is it 2morrow that nesv can get rid of roy because it be 28 days or will they give him a new contract , i could be wrong
paul ynwa {ed's note - well they can get rid of him at any time, but his contract has a 28 day clause that can be activated to remove him for less, which has only a couple of days left to run yes.}

11 Nov 2010 13:26:42
I'd hate for King Kenny to get the Manager's job again. Not because I have anything against the man, in fact I love him. But mainly because all you plastic nerks on websites like these will start abusing him if we don't win five games in a row!

It becomes more evident with every read of this site that the majority of posters know minimal amounts about how football really works and base their thinkings on their performances of Champ Manager! Our current plight has very little to do with Roy Hodgson and yet you all seem oblivious to this fact as he is an easy blame. Quite how Frank Rijkaard would make things any better I have no idea. Unless there is a truly viable better alternative to him and that list is very small then I suggest we work with what we have got. The Fat Spanish Waiter left us as a mid table side after splashing out 170 million on average players, not Roy.

And as for you Editor, you should be ashamed of yourself and your pathetic hate campaign against Roy. As if twitter prattlings from fans will have any semblance of affect on NESV and their future management decisions. All it will achieve is to highlight how ungrateful and narrow minded the LFC plastic brigade really are. Sad times to be a true Red. You and your chief plastic Lionel Blair are a disgrace to everything we stand for. {ed's note - what pathetic hate campaign? If you are going to make accusations, accusations that you don't even have the guts to put a name behind, at least get them right. I don't use twitter. You are the kind of sad pathetic person who thinks they are a better fan than everyone else because they can get to the game. You clearly know nothing about football but think that going to the game makes you an authority. Any that did know would be able to see that the problem with the club is Roy's tactics, not him as a person, but his style of play. It is not like you can even try and pretend he is just trying to get the defence sorted and then he will start being more attacking, he has years and years of past management experience of being defensive. I am sure he will change that just because you support him though, and when we are sat in mid-table mediocrity year after year you can carry on looking for other people to blame and be very proud of yourself for standing by the manager I am sure. Well done you are such a hero you put support for Roy above support for the club, you must be so proud of yourself!}

11 Nov 2010 13:14:28
Like it or not, Andy Carroll is on the clubs wish-list for January - And this has not come from Hodgson, but from Camolli, who see's his aggression and ariel strength as exactly what the club need.

Personally, I would welcome the signing - Carroll and Torres up front together would give us everything we have been missing

11 Nov 2010 13:14:04
Chariman of bolton said they may be forces to sell players

im not sayin wer goin to get them but should look at

chaill-15mill

chung lee-5 mill

matt taylor-5mill

i think that them three would help the team

11 Nov 2010 13:13:14
The team beat chelsea the wkend because of the overwhelming support the team gets at home from playing the big teams making the team perform. it had nothing to do with hodgeson believe yes unbelievable no

11 Nov 2010 13:08:04
A lot of people on here critising Roy for his man management skills, stating how he has fallen out with them etc.

Is this fact? Becuase the guy comes to the club with a reputation of being a top bloke who is exceptional with the players and a great motivator - - Can anyone name an ex-player who has slated him or even moaned about him in the past?

Maybe, just maybe, we need to stop baaming him and look at the players involved - maybe they had it too easy under Rafa! {ed's note - Danny Murphy moaned about the training and how repetitive and boring it was, how it was designed to stop the team from conceding but very little thought given to attacking football.}

11 Nov 2010 13:03:42
Comolli has been brought in to allow King Kenny to take over the managers position at the club when NESV exercise their option to replace Hodgson . Kenny's coaching abilities have never been in doubt but he feels out of touch with transfers and scouting. Expect the announcement soon

11 Nov 2010 13:03:25
Porto have released a statement saying Hulk is not for sale, for any money (in Janaury at least)

11 Nov 2010 13:01:24
Forget about getting us Kerzhakov , he seems to be happy at zenit and is not considering a move to liverpool or any other club for that matter ,
He told the press that he got approached by liverpool .

unfortunate for us :( , I got to say , if we are in this position in january or end of the season with hodgsons in charge , forget about attracting great players . . . people are not to charmed off liverpool anymore and forget about history , its not about the past its about now . and i don't blame them at all sorry but were so horrible now . .

First thing that should happen :

New coach that plays attacking football , go for a dutch manager . . they invented attacking football. Most english managers are more of a long-ball approach . . (has nothing to do with me being dutch , its just a fact)

Second

Sell

Agger(injury prone)
Maxi
Konchesky
Poulsen
(carragher on bench not sold)


and bring in youngsters , then look for other players .

Suso , ecclestone , pacheco , are our brighest prospects imo , followed by shelvey
thats another reason why we need a new coach, this one has no balls whatsoever . rusty coach

11 Nov 2010 13:00:17
Every manager has his favourites, but Roy's favourites seem to be English players and Poulson. . ED? ?Why else would Ecclestone and Shelvey. . both played out of position . .play ahead of pacheco. . .especially when we hear this crap abt Roy trying to him as a winger. .remind me if IM wrong. but ecclestone & Shelvey both played wing against Wigan. .and even before that.


GTH {ed's note - Eccleston can play on the wing and has done so a lot, but not Shelvey nor Meireles for that matter.}

11 Nov 2010 12:59:19
Agree with the Ed for once - Souso is, without doubt, the best young talent we have at the club - We need to start using him !

11 Nov 2010 12:55:46
It is really very simple:

Reina

Johnson(e) Carra(e) Cahill(e) Drenthe

Merelis Gerrard(e)

Mata Honda Young(e)

Torres

Bench

1. Jones (e)
2. Kelly (e)
3. Skrtel
4. Wilson (e)
5. Konchesky (e)
6. Lucas
7. Shelvey (e)
8. Spearing (e)
9. Cole (e)
10. Ngog
11. Kuyt
12. Hulk

Buy (6)
Cahill 10
Drenthe 5
Mata 15
Honda 9
Young 8 (out of contract in summer)
Hulk 15
Total £63 million (recoup £38m net spend =£25 million)

Sell (7+)
Kyriokos 2
Aquilani 13
Aurelio 2
Javonovic 4
Babel 9
Degan 0
Agger 8

Total £38 million in

11 Nov 2010 12:49:42
Liverpool never to win an away game while Roy is still in charge?

Believable

Unbelievable They guys a tactical genius subbing kuyt for poulsen! We needed to take the game to Wigan rather than goes defensive so he should of brought Jovanovic or Eccleston on they can both play wide or upfront. not looking forward to the Stoke game!


RedDan

11 Nov 2010 12:44:03
I've just read that Bolton will probably have to sell one or two players in January to deal with their debt issues. In reality, that probably means Gary Cahill. If the rumours about Agger heading to Italy are correct, would Cahill be a suitable replacement? (I would think the money recieved for Agger would cover the transfer fee.)

11 Nov 2010 12:40:08
Have heard a rumour that Hazard is on his way to Liverpool in January - A fee of £15m has been agreed

11 Nov 2010 12:38:33
Agger is on his way to Inter - Deal agreed.

11 Nov 2010 12:34:55
Who thinks a manager like Di Matteo or Martinez would do well as Liverpool manager
Believable if yes
Unbelievable if no

11 Nov 2010 12:29:46
Many names have seen posted here for various positions in the team. The question is? have we got the money and the right person to decide who needs to be brought in. I hope we only buy below 25 years and proven talent than numbers to beef the squad. A striker, wings CM, i think 5 players are needed before the summer.
End of season clear out should be done quick especially players earning high amounts and not contributing to the team. Bench warmers earning 50000 pounds is a joke by any standards.
CL position for next year should be our goal.

11 Nov 2010 12:14:27
Ed, id like 2 knw wen nesv r goin 2 decide wen the time rite 2 giv rh the elbow, he obviously ent gonna take us forward.dya reckon theyv already make there minds up on a time 2 do it or r they really givin him a chance?to challenge 4 a start u gotta b able 2 win away, jst look at his record its something he just duznt knw hw 2 do.records say tht n nuffins changed, hes nt a magician he jst cnt do it ent of.gt him gon nw! seriously y wait.the omly way is up.we nd a good positive manager with bollox, our squad ent tht bad ju st nds pointin in the rite direction {ed's note - I am still sure that the info I was given a while ago is correct, that NESV are looking for a new manager. The only question is whether they are just looking to get this season out of the way before they make the changes or if they act sooner. But I still believe they intend to replace Roy, they just don't want to act while results are good, they certainly couldn't move after the Chelsea result!}

11 Nov 2010 11:42:08
Kenny is the only manager worth a look at. He has done it as a player and a LFC manager before. Lets see how many support this suggestion. Am sure we have the wrong man in time at LFC.

11 Nov 2010 11:40:29
Liverpool to sign Payet and Matuidi for 16M and also Honda AND kerzakov.

11 Nov 2010 11:37:08
Can some please explain how we can stuff chelski and completley dominate the game, but away at wigan we were dross and lacklustre and lucky 2 come away with a draw! The buck stops with the manager Roy has 2 go otherwise its gonna be a rollercoaster ride till the end of the season! I've heard on the QT that the players are some players won't even talk 2 roy after a number off bust ups !Cmon NESV do the right thing and give Kenny D the temporay managers role, till we find the right man 4 the job !

11 Nov 2010 11:14:18
To whomever posted this

(There's a reason no-one has joined because they think its wrong. Liverpool have a long history of having faith in their managers so why don't you :)
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To answer this yet again. according to your logic we should have put up with H+G for another season in the hope that they would get better then should we.

So when do you stop having faith in the manager then. what will it take, when we are in the bottom half of the table at the end of the season and roy blames the fact that the owners didn't give him £500 million to create fulham mark 2.
Please tell me which team has roy managed that played anything even resembling attractive football.

People bang on about its not the liverpool way. it wasnt the liverpool way to oppose the previous owners. yet they did, because they could see the damage that was being done. So why doesn't the same logic apply to a mediocre manager.

chris 1

11 Nov 2010 11:13:03
Ed wats Dimitri Payet like never seen him? {ed's note - to be honest I am not sure, I have not seen a lot of French football recently, but from what I can gather he mainly plays as a winger but can play pretty much anywhere across the front or as an attacking midfielder. I couldn't tell you if he was quick or strong or good in the air though.}

11 Nov 2010 11:06:08
Can everyone please stop saying we should buy N Zogbia, Hangerland and the likes! Are you forgeting who you supposedly support? We are Liverpool FC! We are still the greatest and should not be looking at second rate players! We should be looking at top class players in the same mould as Gerrard Torres Carra and Reina.
Also Ed can you enlighten me why probably our hottest young talent in Danni Pacheco isn't getting into the squad?-i feel he would probably have done more than Shevely and Eccelston last night.
abs84 {ed's note - before I answer I would just like to point out that our hottest talent, by miles, is Suso, that lad is a class above the rest. As for Pacheco, it is simply a case of it being felt that he is too lightweight to play centrally in the English Premier League. I don't understand that thinking myself, after all being small and lightweight has not held Pedro back too much has it? The lad just needs to be shown a bit of faith and he will respond, I believe.}

11 Nov 2010 11:03:50
To the guy who said this:
ALL LIVERPOOL FANS. . . .

ive seen the GET ROY OUT OF LFC pages on facebook, but lets face it theres only 93 members so why would NESV listen to a small amount of people.
so i you wanna do this right start emailing local newspapers telling about this facebook page and invite as many people as you can! we need to hit thousands of fans
Because believe me RoY WILL ALIENATE all the top players like Pepe reina and we will not be able to compete with teams like spurs who have surpassed us now and we will end up being a mid-table team. lets face it TORRES WANTS MEDALS, GERRARS IS 30 NOW. can we really afford 2 years of roy hodgson? no we can't we must act now otherwise we won't rub shoulders with the best teams in europe

THE VOICE. . .

(There's a reason no-one has joined because they think its wrong. Liverpool have a long history of having faith in their managers so why don't you :)

11 Nov 2010 10:53:12
I know not a lot of people will agree with me on this but in Jan i think we should sign the following players:
N'Zogbia , Jarvis , Banega and Llorente
sell: Babel , Poulsen and Jovanovic
and also loan out Shelvey and Eccleston who are good prospects but not quite ready.

Team to look like this:
Reina
Kelly Skrtel Agger Konchesky
N'Zogbia Gerrard Mereiles Jarvis
Llorente Torres

subs:jones carragher lucas cole kuyt banega maxi

agree=believable disagree=unbelievable

also what you think ed? {ed's note - if we bought Banega he would be first choice every single game mate, he is a class act. I wouldn't touch N'Zogbia myself, he is not good enough, there is a lack of end product to his runs, his crossing is awful.}

11 Nov 2010 10:51:47
Rijkaard's agent said that he'll be working again in one or two months.
Possible replacement for Roy if results don't go our way before christmas?

1-2 months is too late. to keep the stars we need new manager now.people got little carried away with the Chelsea win. the football is bad under Roy and come may we will be losing the back bone to are team, if Roy stays this time next year the Liverpool team will be unrecognisable with your average players from that your blackburn's wigans west hams fulham's would buy, nesv talk of buying young with sell on value, that sounds like feeder club to me we need manager who is strong respected throughout the sport, and just us back, and would Liverpool set up a interview with pellegrini only to say no cos he foreign. did they no know that before the interview? kenny is the only man to takeover at the minute.

11 Nov 2010 10:43:29
11 Nov 2010 10:29:05
To whomever posted this

As all the Liverpool fans I am also disappointed with our performance today. But you have to understand it's not easy to play three matches in a week, one European tie with tough opposition, against the league leader where all the players gave all they could, and finally an away game with a completely unpredictable side. We started well the game but we became more tired as the match went on. It's hard enough to satisfy all the supporters (specially the thick-headed ones (who were so happy with Roy and the team after the Chelsea game though minutes before the match they had different view and after today they are going at him again!) let alone playing three tough games in a week.

(ED- post this on the Rumors. I want to see how many people agree with me)

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Well. yes you make some very good points. however we managed to play 2 sometimes 3 games in such a short space of time over the last 30 years or so. What is the use of the legion of sports science people we have, not to mention the huge backroom team of fitness coaches etc. isn't the whole purpose of them to get the players to the peak of fitness to be able to play matches.
Go and ask kenny, rush, hansen how they managed to play 2/ 3 matches in a week.

It isn't the fact that the players were tired for me. i can excuse/ understand that. its the mind numbingly boring football we are playing. and whichever way you look at it that's down to the manager

chris 1

Chris 1 - entirely agree - they are professional athletes supposed to be at the top of their profession and paid HUGE sums of money - this is just Roy covering for his terrible management skills and lack of ability to coach (he is no longer a manager with Comolli in position). I can only assume Roy wrote this comment himself after reading all the aggro and frustration of all us Reds after last night. If I was a Fulham fan that would have been acceptable but not for the best and most successful club in British football.

Woyful Woyful Woyful - time for you to go

11 Nov 2010 10:35:35
ALL LIVERPOOL FANS. . . .

ive seen the GET ROY OUT OF LFC pages on facebook, but lets face it theres only 93 members so why would NESV listen to a small amount of people.
so i you wanna do this right start emailing local newspapers telling about this facebook page and invite as many people as you can! we need to hit thousands of fans
Because believe me RoY WILL ALIENATE all the top players like Pepe reina and we will not be able to compete with teams like spurs who have surpassed us now and we will end up being a mid-table team. lets face it TORRES WANTS MEDALS, GERRARS IS 30 NOW. can we really afford 2 years of roy hodgson? no we can't we must act now otherwise we won't rub shoulders with the best teams in europe

THE VOICE. . .

11 Nov 2010 10:29:05
To whomever posted this

As all the Liverpool fans I am also disappointed with our performance today. But you have to understand it's not easy to play three matches in a week, one European tie with tough opposition, against the league leader where all the players gave all they could, and finally an away game with a completely unpredictable side. We started well the game but we became more tired as the match went on. It's hard enough to satisfy all the supporters (specially the thick-headed ones (who were so happy with Roy and the team after the Chelsea game though minutes before the match they had different view and after today they are going at him again!) let alone playing three tough games in a week.

(ED- post this on the Rumors. I want to see how many people agree with me)

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Well. yes you make some very good points. however we managed to play 2 sometimes 3 games in such a short space of time over the last 30 years or so. What is the use of the legion of sports science people we have, not to mention the huge backroom team of fitness coaches etc. isn't the whole purpose of them to get the players to the peak of fitness to be able to play matches.
Go and ask kenny, rush, hansen how they managed to play 2/ 3 matches in a week.

It isn't the fact that the players were tired for me. i can excuse/ understand that. its the mind numbingly boring football we are playing. and whichever way you look at it that's down to the manager

chris 1

11 Nov 2010 10:07:18
Rijkaard's agent said that he'll be working again in one or two months.
Possible replacement for Roy if results don't go our way before christmas?

11 Nov 2010 09:38:29
The game last night was obviously disappointing, but some people need to get a better grip on reality. N'Zogbia IS NOT THE QUALITY WE NEED. Fair play, he brought his A game yesterday, but for all the impressive runs how many chances did he create-2/ 3? And in the context of playing against Konchesky (not wanting to slate him) who is an average premier league left back. What would N'Zogbia give us week in week out? Do you really think he is going to contribute more than say Maxi would in a season? Because I really can't see it. And that's not even touching on his personality issues!

Bel - N'ZOGBIA ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH
Unbel - HE SHOULD BE IN OUR FIRST 11 WEEK IN WEEK OUT

LFC_MIKE_YNWA

11 Nov 2010 08:43:32
I was at the game last night and wondered if anybody else saw Pepe walk from his goal straight down the tunnel afterwards, without shaking hands with any of the Wigan players. What's up with him Ed? just p*ssed off with the way we played or is there more to it? {ed's note - there was some of that mate, but also a lot more to it, the players are not happy in general.}

11 Nov 2010 08:29:53
If you notice the last 20 min of the chelsea match and the second half of the Wigan game. . . I don't know how many will agree on this but I think there is a serious lack of a calmer(aka Alonso type player) within our midfield.As soon as Wigan were bombarding attack after attack there was a serious need of a guy like alonso who can just take the momentum out of the game for a few minutes by just keeping the ball , creating little space and passing it along.I am afraid but since Alonso has left this has been a major problem for us. . . .There is not a single CM we have who can have a calming influence in a match when we are pinned back. .who can shift the momentum of the game and decide when to start our attacks and when to keep the ball to slow down the opposition's constant bombarding.I don't think either Lucas or Meireles have that kind of maturity or ability that they can play this role.And Stevie is such a explosive player that he is not suitable for this kind of role.I believe the first priority in the upcoming transfer window is to sign a midfield maestro who can be a calming influence in the midfield, shift the play from left to right, make us play n keep the ball.(My shout is Ever Banega as he is just in Alonso mould).

Ed. .Your thoughts please ? {ed's note - there is no denying that Banega would improve us, but surely the point is that we are using the wrong tactics to suit the players we have? You have an explosive midfielder in Gerrard and attack minded midfielders in Lucas and Meireles, yet our player is defensive and plodding. Rather than look to slow it down by adding Banega, could we not just make the most of what we have by going at opponents at pace?}

11 Nov 2010 08:23:16
As all the Liverpool fans I am also disappointed with our performance today. But you have to understand it's not easy to play three matches in a week, one European tie with tough opposition, against the league leader where all the players gave all they could, and finally an away game with a completely unpredictable side. We started well the game but we became more tired as the match went on. It's hard enough to satisfy all the supporters (specially the thick-headed ones (who were so happy with Roy and the team after the Chelsea game though minutes before the match they had different view and after today they are going at him again!) let alone playing three tough games in a week.

(ED- post this on the Rumors. I want to see how many people agree with me)

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Its a fair comment, but the reaseon im dissapionted is because of the tactics. I have no doubt the players were tired against Wigan but we should have done better than 20 mins (thats being generous). Chelsea are a good side and were always going to make it tough but I was dissapionted with our second half performance, I don't buy the excuse that its the players, because they were playing well first half, and the same tactics have been seen in pretty much all the games weve played this season. The players sit to deep and don't reatin posession in the midfield they are told to let team teams try and break them down and counter attack. I am a great fan of using counter attack in football it can be the most effective foem of play in matches, but it has to be a tactic that is called upon when the opurtunitie arises it shouldnt be a style of play planned from the off.

Bob Loblaw

11 Nov 2010 08:00:21
I, along with many other liverpool fans believed last night's performance was disapointing due to many factors

1. No passing and was too defensive minded
2. No creativity from the wings
3. Credit to wigan especially Charles N'zogbia who we should buy

Bel- agree UnBel- dis agree

sign honda, SWP and hangeland

do you agree ed? {ed's note - er no. No to N'Zogbia, SWP and Hangeland, we don't need a centre back, and we don't need more dross on the pitch.}

11 Nov 2010 07:50:01
Hey ed, what are your thoughts on Martin O'Neil as a potential replacement for Roy? {ed's note - please no! We would be no better off at all, more boring long ball football and nonsensical tactical decisions plus we would get to add mindless rants to the mix.}

11 Nov 2010 07:39:00
"as long as he's the manager you should support him"

so. . as long as hicks and gillet were the owners, we should have supported them too right?

11 Nov 2010 07:11:33
Kenny is now on twitter

11 Nov 2010 07:07:22
Instead of bombarding Henry tweets/ emails, how about we compile a dossier of Hodgson work since arriving, including his comments, treatment of certain players clips of him in the dugout etc and submit it to Henry and Commoli?Tomkins and ed could put it together.

Think you could be up for it, ed?lol
Am just kidding, mate.But do you think such a move could bear fruit?

Silver Song

ps:how's Masch doing in Catalonia? {ed's note - it couldn't do any harm to your cause. Mash seems to be settling in now, he played much better at the weekend.}

11 Nov 2010 06:37:23
So does anyone thing Comolli was at the game to whisper a word (in French) into N'Zobia's ear about a january transfer? ;-))

11 Nov 2010 06:25:33
Im sure we will sign one of these two players"N'zogbia", "Hugo Rodallega"

The blazing Angel-Sri lanka

11 Nov 2010 01:31:28
As all the Liverpool fans I am also disappointed with our performance today. But you have to understand it's not easy to play three matches in a week, one European tie with tough opposition, against the league leader where all the players gave all they could, and finally an away game with a completely unpredictable side. We started well the game but we became more tired as the match went on. It's hard enough to satisfy all the supporters (specially the thick-headed ones (who were so happy with Roy and the team after the Chelsea game though minutes before the match they had different view and after today they are going at him again!) let alone playing three tough games in a week.

(ED- post this on the Rumors. I want to see how many people agree with me)

11 Nov 2010 01:12:10
N'Zogbia, N'Gog, Amoo and Ngoo. . . .? Wouldn't like to commentate on that game!

11 Nov 2010 00:56:45
Jonjo had plenty first team experience at charlton - - he should be ready, not go on loan

11 Nov 2010 00:56:39
Just wanted to ask you guys a question. .

As Liverpool Fans we would rather:

A - LOSE a game by TRYING TO WIN IT. (Believable)

OR

B - DRAW a game by trying NOT to lose it.(Unbelievable)

Your thoughts Ed(s)?

YNWA {ed's note - I would always choose to lose while trying to win than defend for a draw.}

11 Nov 2010 00:53:38
Who thought N'Zogbia was great against us. I think he would be an outstanding buy. He wants a move desperately and we could have him for 5-10m. He is a truly special talent and the way he runs at defenders is something we are lacking. Yes I know he has had attitude problems in the past but some of that can be traced back to the fact that he is playing for Wigan who are s* te and also he is young and very good so if he became a disruption we could easily sell him on for a profit. Zog would be a great signing because he can play on either wing or even at left back. Also, he has been playing regular Premiership football for some seven years, something that none of the foreign wingers we are linked to can even come close to. I think its obvious what I think, let's go for N'Zogbia.

11 Nov 2010 00:42:34
Ed, I'm seeing so many rumours about Roy loosing his job And the way things are u hope he does. Have you any idea when and if Roy will go? It's just that he seems to have lost his footballing brain. Please tell me that he isn't gona be left with the Transfer kitty for jan. {ed's note - he doesn't have the transfer kitty anyway, Comolli does, Roy is not in charge of transfers.}

11 Nov 2010 00:31:19
Not a rumour, just s though. Just can't believe we have dropped three points. I don't want people thinking this is in anyway arrogant but we are lfc and should be beating teams like wigan. We really need an injection of at least two world class players, one winger and a world class striker. I can't say who we should get and will leave that to those who are paid the big cash

11 Nov 2010 00:27:02
Liverpool way is be able to see things, when it's not so plain, did shanks/ paisley/ kenny not see things before the danger signs were plain to see BIG FAT YES. But now it's the fans that are seeing the dangers as no one in charge is clever enough to see and sort the wrongs out. That is the Liverpool way to find the success. These ppl who cry out the Liverpool way it does my head in. They don't even know what there going on about Liverpool way is if your not good enough your not a Liverpool man and that's that, if there is potential then then the men behind the scenes will make you great, who is there right now to do this cos Roy certainly is not the great man Liverpool have always had is he, or should we sit back and wait for him to change? He may become this great man at erm erm erm 70 or 71 or even 73 so let's wait ay, no get Roy out and get a born winner in. Shanks pagan Paisley and king kenny sort good footballers and told them that they were the best in the world, can Roy tell this team them things.

11 Nov 2010 00:21:30
Argh. .absolutly heart breaking. The worst thing is. rafa is quite right. . A priest on a mount of sugar or whatever the damn phrase was. Our starting 11 could be improved but does anyone feel like we're being made to look MUCH worse then our squad is? We look like we deserve a bottom half position today :-(.

Conclusion? Roy has to go! Arghhh. if he had any passion for the reds, he'd leave on his own accord!. but hey. who am I kidding.

As much as I don't like the idea of campaining against him, petitions and what not (because I'm all for being the 12th man and supporting whoevers in charge reguardless) . .now I'm thinking F* * IT! Enoughs enough. .

I'm thinking of making a twitter account so I message Mr Henry with my thoughts. .but I'm thinking rather then us msging him randomly, why not a planned messaging, say 7 days from now n next weekend, whenever . however many messages, at the same time. however many we can get - us lfc fans have a voice that needs to be heard!

I haven't even got a twitter account but would make one for this.

BEL - I'd make an account or use my existing account to send a message at a planned time along with the rest of the lfc army who believe we need to make our voice heard

UNBEL - . .good idea, but wasting my time and its going to be pointless. .

Cheers guys
YNWA - Tiz

11 Nov 2010 00:19:04
Alright chaps iv set up a facebook page to rid of roy

just search Roy-out Of-lfc

11 Nov 2010 00:10:49
I think if we cover every angle like fb, twitter, fans unions and protests before and after games do what we can to make our voice heard

11 Nov 2010 00:10:26
Hey I'm not knocking the young kids, but Meireles was sick. .understandable, but Roy brings on a young kid in Shelvey which was shocking when I first saw it!. Then Jonjo has a terrible performance (not his fault. He's young and will learn). Wouldn't it be good to loan Shelvey out to a Top 5 Championship team to gain that day-to-day experience? Then Eccelston. (same as Jonjo in regards to the loan). We have injuries in Cole, Soto, Glen, Babel, Agger but he keeps Jovanovic and Ngog on the bench and brings on 2 youngsters and the worst player on the bench! Come on Roy! Tell me your brain is not in your arse!
The way that N'Zogbia played, I was surprised, but then again, he pulls in a top performance week in and week out! There's where we should invest 10 million! Rodallega is another we should invest in and if he's not available for us, we need a player with his qualities. He reminds me of a young Dwight Yorke. Shifts well and moves without the ball well! Would be a perfect foil for Nando!
I know we want a British manager, but Roy is defo not the right one! King Kenny would be perfect as he would work well with the sqaud and they have his respect! Pellegrini or Martin Jol would have been perfect in the Summer as I have said on many occassions and many of you as well! I know Rafa gave me chest pains often, but I really do miss him! Roy says crap and is not ruthless in his interviews! Do you think Jose, Fergie, Arsene, Harry have this non-chalant "We deserved a point" comment. If a team played all over us and I was the gaffer and we won or tied I would put the focus on us! where WE went wrong or even well! Come on Roy, Liverpool is known for being no-nonsense! I honestly wish we could even have Carra as a player manager at times!

SIM THE RED

11 Nov 2010 00:08:57
Doyle played well again for wolves.wasted there. Is irelands best player and makes most of keanes goal.
Wud love him at liverpool

11 Nov 2010 00:07:22
For all these people who say it's not the Liverpool way. . Get a grip. . . The Liverpool way is we are not winning titles and trophies then sort it out and find why were not then, identify why were not and fix it. So come you Liverpool way preachers wot is you suppose we do? Sit and wait for times to change, well they don't change on there own people at the top make things change, plus who is still at the club who knows the Liverpool way to be successful. No one. It's Everton that sit back and wait for things to get better. Liverpool way is to make it better and not to except anythin but winning. So all you Liverpool way people get to f*ck with let's just wait and see what happens,
The play that being played Is diabolical, 1 nil up and still in first half and Roy gave the orders to start defending I was watching him and he started to tell players to sit back. If fernando hadn't have score second against Chelsea on the stroke of half time we would have lost that game. But we didn't so forget that. Tonight cos were away he decides yes 1 goal lead let's defend it. Sorry Roy nice man but your not red driven winner for me lad. Pease do a Gordon stracken and stand down.

11 Nov 2010 00:04:18
Alright chaps iv set up a facebook page to rid of roy

just search Roy-out Of-lfc

LETS GET THIS GOING

11 Nov 2010 00:03:34
10 Nov 2010 23:54:03
Alright chaps iv set up a facebook page to rid of roy

just search Roy-out Of-lfc

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