Liverpool Rumours Archive April 13 2012
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13 Apr 2012 23:23:15
Eds do you think the owners will bring in a replacement for comolli before the end of the season?
And is it true as it is said in several papers that dalglish now have full control iver transfers in the summer? {Ed001's Note - yes, the whole idea is to get someone in before the summer. I very much doubt control over transfers will be totally in Dalglish's hands.}
What do u mean ed? i thought when comolli was here kenny has the final say?
Kaizer {Ed001's Note - he did.}
Main words their "he did" and I thank god for that .
Thats very good i don't trust kenny with money. but i hope who ever comes in doesn't destroy our Academy
Move KD upstairs and new manager in?
13 Apr 2012 22:23:57
To the eds. all this talk about cruyff coming to us is hitting up. It was even on the news today. Do you think he come or is it just talk. If we did get him what do you think the outcome would be.
Delboy. {Ed001's Note - I am not sure, he was recommended by Dalglish initially, so it is possible. But it seems to have come from a post on the official Ajax site stating that Cruyff was stepping down from his role with the club. Unfortunately, it goes on to state that he is moving into a different role within the club.}
I would of thought the next Director of Football would need to be someone that had great experience at putting together a world-class youth system and academy based recruitment. Instead of going out and buying ready made player for lots of money. We should buy younger and hope we can get them in to the team within two seasons.
13 Apr 2012 21:21:16
Further to springers post, Liverpool have signed promising 16. Year old dan smith from Crewe. He plays central midfield, and turned down man city, (they offered £500,000) not sure on Liverpools amount.
He has already trained with Liverpool, and kenny dalglish came down to watch him play, and even joined in a 5 a side game.
He has represented England at school level. Hot prospect.
I have been told maxi has earned a place in the starting 11 2mrw, dependant on a fitness test.
Liverpool will again be trying to get the best youth in the country!
The truth
Swagga
Good news about Maxi. He should have played a lot more this season
If Maxi plays tomorrow then i'll take your word over this transfer, if not then we'll all know.
The transfer is true, sure it will be confirmed, it's not ground breaking, do don't expect it over sky sports! Maxi starting is a rumour, all depends on fitness
Kenny joined in a 5 a side gam?!
Yeh, he came down to check out dan smith, and joined him and other youth players in a game. I'm sure that sealed the deal
Swagga
13 Apr 2012 20:26:47
eds is there any interest in michu from liverpool or any english club ? {Ed002's Note - I expect that Michu is a player who has been watched by scouts of a number of clubs possibly including Liverpool but I think it most unlikely a move to England is going to happen. Keep in mind he only arrived in Madrid this past summer as well.}
13 Apr 2012 20:24:30
Gonna post about something that's been niggling at me for a while. Quite often on here, when someone mentions sacking Kenny or getting a new manager in, a lot of replies tend to involve the words "we're not Chelsea". Now, fair enough, Chelsea are the easiest club to target because they're consistently near the top of the league, but when you look at the average premier league club, they have a fairly quick turnaround as manager, and most of these managers lose their job because they have not achieved the objectives of the board, or the fans have turned against them. I would like to say at this time that I want Kenny to be in charge next season, and that I think that potentially winning 2 cups is a good season in anyone's books, but other people have a different opinion and they're entitled to it. Anyway, my point is, if we do replace KK, "we're not chelsea", we're like every other club and the board decided change was needed.
Rugby Parker {Ed002's Note - None of the Chelsea manager's have lost their jobs because the fans have turned against them. Two left strictly on the basis of unacceptable performances - although under very different circumstances. One left because an advisor to the club found his One of the others would not have left if the performances were better, but it is not the reason he left. I appreciate you care particularly for Dalglish, but if it were someone with no connection to Liverpool in charge (Alan Pardew for example) and the performances and results were as we have seen this season, would the fans still be saying "give him another year"? I very much doubt it.}
Sorry Ed, didn't mean in Chelsea's case the fans turned against them, but everyone knows Chelsea's 1 main aim in the short term is to win the Champions League, and most Chelsea managers have been sacked because they couldn't bring it home. Also, I can only speak for myself, but I would have to say that if any manager won the FA and League cup I would always say "give him another year". It's proven to be a very difficult thing to achieve, and should always guarantee a manager another crack at it next year. That's only assuming the best case scenario comes true and Liverpool win the FA Cup. A league cup win, an FA Cup Semi defeat and a disappointing league position is a poor season and Kenny's position would be very much in doubt. It's a thin line between success and failure in football these days.
Rugby Parker
Im fully backing kenny, one cup already in the bag and hopefully another one on the way, will be tough but we can only try, chelsea is an easy target i agree but they dont help themselves with how they run things down there, and eds the last one didnt only leave because of bad results it was because of the egotistics u have playing for you, i also agree with the eds when he says it wasnt the fans who get the chelsea managers sacked cos lets be honest they have no fans plus most of them probably support city now
Finally a bit of sense. Theres no doubt I have the utmost respect for Kenny but hes out of his depth. You don't have to look past his press conferences to see the pressure is too much for him. Any other manager would be slated from the fans for our league position.
But eds he is a Liverpool legend an deserves more time and respect than an outsider.
It is so frustrating to see that some of the fans forget the fact that our main objective has always been to be in the top four. Cup wins are always welcomed, but they were never the prime targets. If we want to move on and put any real challenge to the title in the coming years we have to be in the CL and attract quality players. This is also required for the future profitability of the club. I am wondering when these fans will get their heads out of the sands and see the true picture. I am not a big fan of ed2, but I fully agree with his/her aforementioned comment. I am sure DC's sacking has sent out a strong message to everyone in the club that things have not been as per the expectations. Only these deluded fans cannot read the message.
If he wins both cups then FSG will probably give him another season. But if we just win the Carling Cup and come 8th in the league, thats not acceptable. The brief was "get top four"
Chelsea is a club run by Abramovich not the fans, the fans have no say about their club so you can't compare them with Liverpool
Above par? Honestly we were almost in administration last year and were in the relegation zone. We have performed better this year then last, we are progressing. Kenny out of his depth? He's not there to give the media something to talk about so why should be answer there questions? He's there to protect liverpool and its players not be a good sport for the media
More than half the fans want a different manager to kenny. FACT
I'm not sure that people are giving Liverpool supporters the credit they deserve.
I'm gonna leave the post 2005 'fans' out of this for a moment. Despite what some people want, LFC is not all about winning. It's about doing the right thing in the right way. Winning was always a by-product of this and nothing more.
What we want is a club that looks after the fans and a team that plays in the right way. We're not stupid and we know that if we play to our potential then we can beat anyone and the only frustration is that we cannot seem to perform to a consistent level. As i've said before, most fans can see that all we lack is some-one to consistently put the ball in the net.
Eds, you say we'd be calling for any other managers head and maybe some would but the majority of LFC fans understand that it takes time to build a side, especially after the recent uncertainty surrounding the club under H&G. And yes, we do have more patience with Dalglish because he is Dalglish and because we know what he's done for the club and we know what his capabilities are.
Finally, to the post 2005 'fans': You haven't got a clue. LFC is not about winning at all costs. We don't want Mourinho at this club in any capacity and if you knew anything at all then you'd know why. We look after our own and support the manager and the players. That's the part we play. This isn't some computer game and we don't take kindly to idiots stirring things up. I'd suggest that if you need any further 'education', then go into any pub in the city, express your views and you won't be short of informed fans to put you right. {Ed002's Note - So you think Roy Hodgson should return and be given another year or two?}
Ed2, Hodgson is no LFC man. He is an outsider. That is the difference between him and Kenny.
Kenny gets to have another chance because he is a Liverpool man through and through.
To Ed02, Obviously i don't think that Hodgson should return and given another year or two.
Privately, i was against his appointment in the first place, though i never said so. But once he was appointed, i got behind him and the team and believe he should have had the opportunity to see what he could do. Just being fair, no more, no less.
Kenny should be given more time. I base this on the on the following: Our style of play has been pleasing. It seems more a matter of confidence to get 2/3 more players forward in support and get the goals. Something a 20 goal a season striker would install. The fighting spirit is also there. Under Hodgson players looked like they didn't care and THATS un forgiveable in my eyes when you play for LFC.
Last but not least: I am actually happy how Kenny has protected the young players and given them "the Liverpool way" with a couple of years in reserve. This is something I believe will pay of BIG in the future.
13 Apr 2012 19:38:53
Hi eds do we have any interest in ander herrera?
Thanks
Jman {Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware.}
Well for me we shuold be, saw him play many times for Zaragoza (he was with Gabi in the centre..now with Athletic..another player we shud have looked at)when he was 18, a star in the making, then sold to Bilbao for 10M, and has progressed.
davinspain
Couldn't agree more!
Jman
13 Apr 2012 17:55:29
Hello Ed002,
maybe I'm talking nonsense but I wish Liverpool wouldn't sell Downing in the summer. I know he's not been in the shape of his life this season but I strongly believe in his skills. If, big If, anyone should leave IMO Adam, as he's really been dissappointing. Not sure about Kuyt and Maxi but they'll probably leave. thanks. {Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any plan to sell Downing - he was certainly one of the key signings that Dalglish really pushed for.}
Well with kenny leaving in the summer it could be a possibilty, i would keep him as back up if we cant get atleast 12 million for him.RedTurk
Downing to Fulham next season
Agree completely. Downing is quality and is a proven EPL player. Ok...he has had a middling sort of year but, I haven't been as bothered with his performances as with some other players. He can and has delivered good crosses--we just lack the finisher to get on the end of them.
I am confident Downing will come good.
As for Carroll, Adam and Henderson...I'm not so sure. They are complete busts (yes, I'm aware there are many on this site who sing the praises of Henderson as a player of the future but, I just don't see it). In my estimation, the tale of our sorry season can be told by the performances (or lack thereof) of this trio.
Red (Not Blue) Lenses
If downing has had a bad season then the same must go for charlie adam , his left oot realy is a wand , we all seen it when he was with blackpool
I may be on my own here but downing was a lot of money for the reason that he is an established premier league player! So on that basis alone he has been the most disappointing in my eyes. Very mediocre at best and I can never see him producing 15+ goals or even the ability to ever show any imagination. Sorry but he'd be the first out the door for me
Somerset red
13 Apr 2012 17:51:03
Why does Mark Lawro feel the need to mouth off to the press all the time?
He is positive Rafa is to return in the Summer and believes that's why a lot of people were culled ahead of preparations for a busy Summer transfer window opening.
Apparently Kenny is going to be relinquished of command after the last game we play this season and Rafa will be installed soon after.
Do you think there is any legs to this one Ed's?
Lawro got the Bent deal wrong, which he assured the World, was signed and sealed on 5live, is he wrong again? {Ed002's Note - Don't drag us in to this.}
Where did you hear him say about Dalglish. Was it on the radio or a written piece I can look up myself?
Thanks
Burnsy
Because he is the media. It's his job to stir the pot and hope kenny doesn't phone him up.
Where the hell is this from?
It was only a couple of weeks ago that Lawro was saying Dalglish was the right man for the job and deserved time. I wouldn't take much notice of what he says.
I too believe that Rafa could be on his way back. Getting rid of commolli adds fuel to this because as we saw with Parry - Rafa doesn't like the Director of Football role. in Rafa we trust!
Ed your comments have got my attention more than the post. Have you heard something but would rather not discuss?
NoneTheWiser {Ed002's Note - Do you hear voices?}
He's paid to "mouth off!"
What's the point in being a "pundit" if you say nothing!
dmedly
I sincerely hope we do get Rafa. He loves LFC just like Kenny but has all the tactical genius and experience of the modern game we need. He was a victim of the Gillett Hicks era and i'm not suprised he got so angry. He knew what was happening there long before we did and had to put on a straight face. {Ed001's Note - what was happening? You mean his constant pressure to spend more money the club didn't have that put the club into serious jeopardy perhaps? G&H had to go, because they didn't have the money to ride out the recession, but Rafa was the reason the club was tipped over the edge. His constant demands for more and more ridiculously overpaid players, despite knowing the financial situation, should surely be obvious to even the densest of the Rafa lovers? He did the same at Valencia, tried to force the club into spending beyond its means in order to compete, and it nearly destroyed them too. Rafa is, I am afraid, the Peter Ridsdale of management.}
ED001 your constant abuse of anyone but Kenny Dalglish is getting pretty embarrassing.
anyone with half an understanding of football would see Rafa would be alot better for Liverpool than Dalglish.
with a net spend of 60M in all his time at LFC and what he did was quite frankly miraculous.
to defend a man who has wasted so much money as Dalglish has,and then criticize another for what he did with a lot less money is pretty hypocritical.
With KD in charge we may never even qualify for a Champions league,let alone win one.
{Ed001's Note - you are clearly clueless, Dalglish has massively reduced the wage bill at the club. He did not set the prices, that was the man that was removed yesterday, in case you didn't realise, as you clearly have no idea. I am not abusing Rafa, I am pointing out his mistakes because of people like you who still hang on to this ridiculous notion that he was not in any way shape or form at fault for the money problems the club was in. That it was all G&H and that he was trying to save us. He was as much a part of the problem as they were. But you carry on embarrassing yourself with your imbecilic notions of net spend without factoring in wages, signing on fees and pay offs.}
Sorry ed you are wrong there. If you want to avoid the blame for Kenny on the wages by blaming it on Comolli, you can avoid the blame of Rafa by blaming it on Purslow. The stupid spending on wages carried long after Rafa left. He had nothing to do with Joe Cole being on £90k a week to prove by point. I don't see how you cannot blame Kenny for the transfer fees and yet blame Rafa. Besides Kenny gave his go-ahead to all the transfers. He didn't decide to opt for a cheaper player. {Ed001's Note - It is not me who is wrong, it was not Purslow that was in charge, do you actually have any idea who was signing the checks back then? It was Rick Parry, and he would lose us loads of deals rather than pay what he thought was too much. Then Rafa had his whines and suddenly the decision was down to him and we ended up with players on far too much money. Sorry that you are showing your lack of knowledge again.}
Its clearly FSG that are reducing the wage bill,not Dalglish,so dont try and give him credit for others work. they talked about reducing the wage bill long before Dalglish was brought in.
Your refusal to accept any form of criticism of him is cringeworthy and makes you look idiotic.
hoe do you know that it was solely Commoli who agreed to such high prices?
do you really think Dalglish would have agreed to Comolli spending 35M on Carroll knowing he could have got someone better for the same fee or a lot less?
cop on man.
the 35M Spent on Carroll will amount to more than Torres' transfer fee and wages put together.
in your mind all the good things at the club are down to Dalglish and the blame for all the bad things lie elsewhere.
You're not abusing Rafa,calling him the Peter Ridsdale of management is certainly a compliment.
for the record i dont think Rafa Benitez should be brought back as manager,but i'd have him over the tactically inept Dalglish any day of the week and twice on sundays.
what players were drastically overpaid?
do you have links to the facts and figures to back up your argument? i'd love to give them a read...
{Ed001's Note - you are putting words in my mouth, you don't have a single iota of insight into it, please stop wasting my time. I have never said all the good things at the club are down to Dalglish, please don't lie because you can't make a point against what I am saying.}
You said Dalglish reduced the wage bill yet you also said Comolli negotiated for players?
so basically what you're saying is Comolli agreed the fee for the players (Negative part)
yet left the contract negotiations to Dalglish (positive part)... {Ed001's Note - no, I was saying he chose which players to get rid of.}
Ed001 Do the players acquired last summer and last January not earn wages and were they not given signing bonuses? It is far too simplistic to say that Rafa ran up a big wage bill and in so doing contributed to the club's financial woes. The players recruited during the Benitez era added quality to the playing squad and in most cases when sold brought profit on their original fees. They also ensured champions league qualification on a regular basis ensuring more income for the club. The current playing squad is lacking in quality because of the recruitment over the last 2 windows. No doubt Commolli was responsible but as Kenny said himself yesterday, the player choices were his. Kenny is as culpable if not more so for these poor choices and no doubt FSG realise this. I would be very surprised if he was manager next season. {Ed001's Note - the difference is that Rafa was paying players a lot more money than we are now. Under FSG there is no awarding big pay rises or bringing in freebies on ludicrous amounts of money. I mean Voronin was paid more than Suarez!}
The revenue LFC Generated under Benitez basically doubled from the Houiller era,
we went from receiving 90 odd million in Houiller's last year to 180 odd Million in Benitez's last year...
im sure this was down to everyone but Rafa though..
{Ed001's Note - it was down to G&H in the main. They overhauled that side of the club from the Moores era. Though Rafa's European runs certainly contributed. Stop being such a child, I am not saying he was at fault for everything. It is possible to criticise just for the things that are wrong and praise for the good things too. Seems to have escaped you though.}
Game set and match ed 001 lol
Ed001 - you are making yourself look a bit silly here. I don't know any facts about who Benitez bought, wages they were on etc but your responses make you look a tad childish. You may be right in what you say but saying things like "stop wasting my time" when you are losing an argument is a bit patronising. I love this site but lately some of the ed's comments (not just you ed001!) have been a bit condescending. {Ed001's Note - then go elsewhere. I really couldn't care less. If you don't have any facts then why try and argue about them? Idiots like you just waste the time of everyone.}
I said in your mind all the good things are Dalglish's doing....
not that you said it was all Dalglish's...
so dont accuse me of lying.its an opinion i've formed from reading your posts on this site every day.
every time i try to have a debate with you you turn very childish,you resort to name calling rather than making your point.
{Ed001's Note - I am sorry, I really shouldn't descend to your level, but it is frustrating when people make up imbecilic notions because they can't get their heads round a simple point in a discussion. Perhaps if you had any insight to add to the discussion it would be worth having.}
Ed001. I see where you are coming from, but ultimately clubs are judged from their success on the pitch. Success breeds success and can breed commercial and monetary success aswell. Liverpool are on a much more stable financial footing now and the wage bill is probably significantly reduced but so also is the strength of the playing squad and the ability to challenge for success. This has to change and we should have seen a positive difference this season with money spent on the squad last summer. As a matter of interest do you feel the owners are satisfied with Kenny's role in this regard and do you think he will be in charge come August? Thanks. {Ed001's Note - no, as I have said I feel he will move upstairs in the summer, whether there was interference from Comolli or not, I can't see them sticking with Dalglish. Personally I would have given him another season, it takes time to turn round a club on the slide when it is as big as Liverpool. But results have not been good enough in the league, for whatever reason, so I expect him to be moved aside.}
Ed001. Thanks. I agree that it takes time to turn things around. However in spite of in my opinion the failure of last summer's purchases, Dalglish hasn't been able to implement a tactical framework or system that actually suits the team. This is what I see as his biggest failing and it appears this lack of organisation and cohesion is getting worse instead of better. Nice discussing this by the way. {Ed001's Note - I do agree it is a serious issue with the team, one that seemed to get worse as the season went on rather than better. I put up a link to a piece on the Tomkins Times earlier, in which he explains why he believes that part of the problem was Comolli's statistical analysis. That he was influencing the style of play to achieve certain goals he set, but like all stats they only work if you understand how to interpret them. He seems to have been taking a results/element of play and making an assumption. Such as more crosses = more wins. There seems to have been no thought about why the number of crosses is irrelevant if there is no one in the box to get on the end of them.}
I wasn't arguing against your views ed001, I was simply pointing out that you are very arrogant. I haven't argued against any of the eds views. I just think that either a) you've had a bit too much Dutch courage, or b) you're just a tool! {Ed001's Note - so you were just coming on to have a dig without adding anything to the convo? And you call me a tool? Arrogant? Probably. Do I care about some nameless tool that comes on just to post childish little digs? Nope. Now stop wasting my time, you have offered nothing to the convo.}
Everyones wrong but the eds... your so arrogant its unbelievable! your losing an argument so you start sulking and start calling people who you dont even know 'idiots' for voicing their opions? get a grip of urself man ur not always right so dont be so ignorant to other people.. at the end of the day the stats dont look good daglish and theres no hiding from that {Ed001's Note - the only person who needs to get a grip is you. I have said that results are not good enough, but you haven't the intelligence to accept that it is not relevant to a discussion about Rafa's spending. Unless you are 5 years old and want to comeback with: but he did it miss! Now give it a rest. If I was sulking I would just block the nameless tools, like yourself, who do nothing but whine and bitch at us editors without actually bringing anything worthwhile to the site.}
Ed001. Yes I read Tompkins article earlier. It does seem towards point Commoli's statistical analysis about crosses and Final Third Retrievals being implemented tactically into the team this season.In one way for Kenny's sake and perception of his ability I'd actually hope that this is the case and January - May last season is actually Dalglish's prefered system and tactical set-up. The players acquired also seem to suit the statistical analysis, but I can't believe Dalglish would allow interference at such an advanced level. If this were true, then Dalglish was/is little more than a coach taking technical/tactical instructions from the DOF which I find most worrying, now and into the future. {Ed001's Note - I agree, and it does seem to be at least partly true.}
Ed001. what's your take on the next DOF appointment? are we looking for someone to replace Commoli, implement the statistics more successfully? Cruyff is hardly that man? Also it seems likely that if this is the chosen route FSG will go for a younger/more amenable manager to work under new DOF. This will immediately rule out a lot of top quality prospective managers. {Ed001's Note - I hope that FSG have moved on from trying to use mere stats to decide a strategy. Instead bring in someone like Cruyff, who has a proven track record in establishing a club's overall strategy. It does seem that they intend to go that way and take advice from football people this time.}
Once again ED,its your opinion or no one else's.
i feel pity rather than anything else.
you're an embarrassment to this site and the other good,hard work the other EDs put in.
i've asked you to back up you're argument with facts,figures,links etc,and as usual you take the snobby,arrogant,childish route and show yourself to be the person that you are. {Ed001's Note - why thank you, I would like to engage in further discussion but after banging my head against a wall, I have a headache, but thanks anyway.}
Ed001 - has it sunk in yet that you are coming across as quite arrogant?! To call someone an person just because they point out that you are patronising is quite short sighted. Take note and learn from it! Without us "idiots" (I would love to compare qualifications with you btw) you wouldn't have your little platform that makes you feel so important! {Ed001's Note - has it sunk in that I don't care? Or that qualifications don't make you intelligent? I guess not. Those notes? They will be filed in with all the spam emails, and all the other useless bumpf that us VIPs get....}
I don't know any facts ....You may be right in what you say.... when you are losing an argument is a bit patronising.
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How can one person contradict himself in such a short space of time? I completely agree with Ed001. It's about time someone burst the idyllic bubble that the less informed put Rafa in. The man was a politician whose ego demanded that he always get his way or else he would walk. I acknowledge the fact that he won the 2005 Champions League with what was basically Houllier's squad but he also won la liga with Hector Cuper's Valencia. While success came in 2005 his backward thinking cost another title in 2007
He nearly ruined LFC with his negative tactics and fall-outs with senior players. He went to Inter and did ruin a treble winning team to the point that they have yet to recover.
One question to the deluded Rafa fans....why is he still unemployed?
God bless Ed001 for calling it like it is.
God bless ed001...i really can't beilieve the idiots talking s**t without a damn clew...benitez overspent all the time and ruined alot of big clubs in the process...morientes, sissoko, zenden, josemi, nunez,pennat, mark gonzales, dossena, riera, keane...flopps all of them, brought by benitez all of them and overpaid all of them :@
Ed, dont sink too this guys level. Its making you look just as stupid, i respected you till reading this squabble! As my mother taught me, dont sink to this guys level! I feel he will argue black is white with you...
The above poster is person talking what he does not know..Lover boy Jose made a treble winning team at Inter but an old one.. Rafa told the truth to inter top Mgt. that they needed to strengthen and spend money but they would not listen.. Look at inter now they are spent force..So shut up and learn football..Also when people talk about Rafa do they forget how much revenue he generated through Champions League at LFC actually on the Pitch we were number 1 team in europe idiots.. he basically kept the club stable when G&H were sucking us dry,It was his teams that paid for interest..
Red Indian
KK must stay as Liverpool manager. Don't people remember how it was just before he came in ? He turned the club around and restored the faith. How many people can do that ? Yes he's got to rebuild the squad and that takes time. There was and still is so much dead wood at the club (Cole and Aquilani on loan) so he's also had to be cautious and ensure that he only brings in players who want to play for the club. The only real error has been Carroll, and that's not because of lack of talent, it's because Carroll is an person and doesn't realise the opportunity he has. Kenny will know that 2-3 key signings over the summer will make a massive difference.
Keep the faith
13 Apr 2012 17:49:24
Hi Eds,
Heard a rumour from somebody supposedly "In the know" so just thought I'd pass it on for your opinion.
Apparently King Kenny isn't & never has been a "long term" choice as our manager, it was nothing to do with his performances towards the end of last season that got him his contract. The new owners wanted, and still do want a big name manager, a young manager like Guadiola, Mourinho or AVB, but none were available, the idea behind the scenes was to install Kenny in until one of these became available, also to appease the fans who where clamouring for him to get the job at the time, also buying the new owners time to settle the club off the field & show the fans they are here for the long haul. Kenny is aware of all this & is why he took the job as he himself privately has stated he's not interested in the high pressure job of a manager in a long term capacity at his age, Kenny is also overseeing the recruitment of the new manager & staff & the appointment of Steve Clarke was put in place hoping it would help luring Mourinho. The feeling is The club now have a list of managers who could bring long term success to the club & Kenny himself has advised on this list & again the feeling is he'll step aside to a new role if one of the top targets is acquired. A few new names have been added including Brendan Rodgers & Rafa Benitez, also a couple of names have dropped off, one shock choice was Ian Holloway at the end of last season but his stock has now fallen with new owners. Also there is a huge transfer budget for new players, but it will only be used for the new manager & to buy long term players who will be seen as first teamers for years to come. There will also be a restructure of the level between the manager & owners & DC will not be the only casualty as its believed we've lost some top targets in the past & also paid over the odds for the ones we did get & DC is apparently not the only one to blame for this behind the scenes.
That's bout the gist of it whether or not it's true but it's what I heard, some of it makes sense some of it don't but love your opinions Eds {Ed002's Note - So Liverpool employed Steve Clarke to try and lure Jose Mourinho to the club? You don't think that is rather far-fetched at all? But what do I know?}
As I said Eds some of it makes sense some of it doesnt, don't shoot the messenger just something I heard & thought it was interesting
I have said in a previous post on here that mourinho has been approaced for the post. The yonks are very keen on him and want him> Its now all down to him. Personally I think he will come if the funds are there , after winning almost everything the next challenge is for him to turn Liverpool to the best team in the world again, and that would then make him better than Fergie. Mourinho is not motivated by money, he just wants to be the best.
Apparently King Kenny isn't & never has been a "long term" choice as our manager
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So why they 've given him 3 year deal at the end of last season? I suppose they just like to pay compensation.
Roy
We did miss out on Ashley Young, Phil Jones, Oxlade-Chamberlain and Juan Mata because of Comolli
Maybe they can get zola
Was it not a 2 year contract?
Really? Did you take into account it was Friday the 13th when you came out with that one? Cos that's a bleedin' nightmare of a story yer fella! You've got me twitching like a bear halfway up a tree with an itchy a**ehole!
13 Apr 2012 17:37:55
Hi eds,
maybe it's too early to tell but do you think that the chances of bringing Christian Eriksen will raise with Johan Cruyff as a DOF? {Ed002's Note - As you say it is too early to say, but I don't see Eriksen moving to Liverpool this summer. Liverpool, Manchester City, Arsenal, Chelsea, Bayern Munich and AC Milan have shown an interest in Eriksen. He has already rejected both Manchester City and Chelsea but AC Milan remain the most interested club. The Milan Press Office are convinced of interest from Manchester United and they have let it be known that they expect a bid to be made by for Eriksen who remains adament that he will stay in Amsterdam for two more years before moving to Spain. Expect AC Milan and Roma to press if a bid is made by Manchester United.}
Ed002 you never see any player moving to Liverpool {Ed002's Note - Sorry? I have said plenty of players could move to Liverpool. People will ask about Cavani and Van persie and Aguero and I will say no. But I have explained all along that Soldado is an option, De Jong, Matias Suarez, etc.. Or would you rather I lied and said that Drogba nd Ronaldo will be signing?}
The question you should ask is... would our chances improve if cruyff came to the club? Thanks ed(s) {Ed002's Note - I don't see why it would make a difference - how many Liverpool players followed Benitez to Inter Milan? How many will follow Comolli to his next club?}
13 Apr 2012 16:44:51
my question is for ed001; do u personally think that we'll get a very good goal-scoring striker, a poacher of sorts? thanks {Ed001's Note - I certainly expect us to try and get one, yes.}
Ed apart from soldado do you know any others that we might try and get? {Ed002's Note - There are opther players that there has been interest shown in as discussed on a day-by-day basis and no doubt those that we do not yet know about. Interest remains in De Jong for example.}
They want soldado
13 Apr 2012 16:40:37
Can any of the ed's tell me if it would be realistic for Abel Hernandez to leave palermo and come to LFC. He's a fantastic talent at a young age and having a couple of Uraguayans at our club may help convince him to make the move.
Also do you rate him as a player and do you think he is what we need?
{Ed002's Note - Unlikely to leave Palermo who will be on a major spending spree this summer.}
13 Apr 2012 16:27:41
Martin Jol is looking at Stewart Downing, transfer fee 6 mill £. According to chief scout at Fulham.
Kind Regards
Thats a joke right. Why would we let him go for 6million.
Not a chance we'd sell him for anything less than £12-15m.
Fulham are struggling to make Pavel Pogrebnyak's loan, permanent.
They are said to be heavily interested in Aberdeen's Frazer Fyvie who will be out of contract in the Summer, but Aberdeen would still have to be paid some compensation.
Brown owl at fulham has told chief scout to stop telling lies or he will confiscate his woggle
Ah good one above, obviously never won his merit badge for SI19 Intelligence Gathering... prob should promote his sixer to chief so....
I would drive Downing there myself for £6 mil - he has been a disater this season and to get back £5 mil would be good business!
I think downings just starting to come good after many games being terrible or am i just seeing things?
Getting back 5 mil is not good business at all!
Guys he was £20 mil!! What has that brought to the club? can you honestly say he has been a success?
13 Apr 2012 15:13:30
Sky Sports understands Dutch giants PSV Eindhoven are interested in a summer move for Liverpool striker Nathan Eccleston.
For some reason the phrase "Dutch giants" made me laugh. Is such a thing possible?
13 Apr 2012 15:07:56
Ed has kenny's position already been reviewed or is it still set to be reviewed at the end of the season? {Ed002's Note - Nothing will happen with respect to Dalglish until the end of the season.}
13 Apr 2012 14:50:29
What is the reality hector herrori (sorry for spelling) rumour?
Is this rumour is twitter's blessing or there is intrest from liverpool? Reply plz eds..
An Indian Liverpool Boy. {Ed002's Note - See earlier answers.}
13 Apr 2012 14:48:32
Roma have reportedly approached Liverpool regarding the potential availability of Luis Suarez during the summer transfer window.
Suarez has endured a difficult season and has been widely condemned for a number of controversial incidents, yet it is surely unlikely that the Reds would consider selling their star striker.
Roma, though, are seemingly keen to bring Suarez to the Italian capital in time for next season, and have reportedly already made an initial move to broker a deal.
According to Italian newspaper Corriere dello Sport, the Serie A club have contacted Liverpool proposing a £16 million deal for Suarez.
Juventus are also credited with interest in the 25-year-old Uruguay international, but would seemingly be wasting their time with an attempt to sign him.
Suarez may have angered Liverpool bosses with his conduct this term, but is still considered to be a key component in the quest for future success.
The former Ajax forward was one of the only transfer successes for former director of football Damien Comolli, having moved to Anfield from Amsterdam in January 2011.
This was like 3 weeks ago....
Suarez for 16m...ok then good luck with that one. I think we all know where Comolli has gone to do his negotiating
16 million ! they must be joking. He is worth about double that. The only reason he has had problems is the fact that Fergie is frightened of him and Ref's are frightened of Fergie.
I would certanily not sell for 16m thats around a 7m loss and he is much better than torres when we sold him we wouldnt sell for that much surely {Ed002's Note - I am sure that Liverpool would not sell for the suggested 20M euros.}
£16 million?
Yeah, okay. We have only just paid £22.8 million for the lad and he has 4 years left on his contract but yeah, let's do cash rich Roma a favour and sell a player well under his market price.
We can sell them Reina for a fiver and Enrique for a bag of chips.
I do hope you have a blue shirt on when you type such nonsensical scribblings.
Not my writings but (Give me football) I thought I would post it because it seemed a bit slow on here today. Oh and for the record Im a red and on my way to Wembley tonight (1.30 am) for tomorrows game YNWA. {Ed002's Note - Cycling there?}
We don't need to sell Suarez so why would we let him go for nothing, I for one would be happy to see him go, but for a very nice figure, I would like at least around 30 million and try hold out for around 40 million, maybe I'm dreaming.
J-lk
No Ed002 I thought I would jog it you know work up a thirst and all that :-) Want to get there a bit early, were not allowed in the boozers so Im told so a few beers a Hopefully a great result. {Ed002's Note - Have a great day.}
And you too on Sunday Ed002 I believe your a Chelsea fan? If your not Im sorry. {Ed002's Note - Thank you.}
40 million if it is silly club psg Anzhi Malaga then 60 million
That is laughable!
You just wasted 10,15 min of your life writing that muck
gee man
Suarez made the best signing COATES
13 Apr 2012 14:29:12
Hector Herrera, won't be moving to Liverpool. We have watched him and thats all.
On Cruyff links, very likely to happen,
JFT96
Armando
13 Apr 2012 13:21:55
Summer exits:
Kuyt (5m)
Maxi (free)
Adam (5m)
Aurelio (free)
Johnson (10m)
Aquilani (5m)
Cole (5m)
Pacheco (2m)
Carragher to get less minutes
Summer priority targets:
Soldado (20m)
Munian (20m)
Isla (12m)
Reserves to get first team action:
Sterling, Morgan, Silva, Suso, Coady, Wisdom, Wilson.
Really do not know why we are chasing Isla as we should instead be chasing N.Clyne of C.Palace he would be a snip at half of what Isla would cost, is younger and cheap wages..
Morgan, Silva, Wisdom nowhere near ready.
Suso, Sterling and Coady I wouldn't mind getting some games to see. They should be brought in now in the league.
Morgan isnt even trainin with the first team yet. sterling was trainin with the first team for ages before he got a game
Morgan isn't ready
Morgan is more ready than Andy Carroll - Michael Owen was only young when he started, give him a chance. He's young fresh and in your face...i reckon he could do it...give him some minutes at home before end of season! Sterling should start ahead of downing, hendo etc
I believe we should keep Kuyt,Maxi & Adam wont be sold this summer also we should try 2 keep Johnson
Sell maxi for free haha next joke
Morgan is an under 18 not a reserve. Silva is in trouble with Liverpool (fight) hense thats why he's been sent out on loan. WSilson will be sold with the others! He's not in the plans.
Oh and why would liverpool sell johnson??
Never knew there was a fight with Silva? We're did you hear that from? He's been doing well on Loan however (Silva)
Silva, coady, wisdom, wilson, sama, ngoo, adorjan to go out on loan
13 Apr 2012 12:13:11
Cruyff has agreed to join in principal apparently.
Martin
So he has agreed to join in principle. Who are in principle. Anyone know?
Im sure the comment above is sarcastic, but in principal means along the lines of verbally agree'd, no contract has been written up so he's free to change his mind.
Carb
I think he meant "In Principal", the argentine minnows.
13 Apr 2012 12:07:41
Hi eds
Right lots happening at Anfield
Cryff has agreed a deal in principle to come to Liverpool, im guessing in a d o f role
We have opened talks regarding Ever Banega for a potential transfer
We have agreed a deal for Hector Herrera a 22 year old mexican winger from pachuca and also have first choice on M Bueno
All indications show we are close to a deal for a striker,not sure which one
What would be your ideal summer transfers ed1 or 2 for lfc?
Thanks
Mac
{Ed002's Note - A striker, a right wing and a replacement for those leaving IF there is nobody suitable to promote from the reserves.}
Cheers mac, your input is much appriciated as ever. Do you have any more info on Hector Herrera? is he any good?
thanks
john
Well done you just summed up all twitter rumours in past three hours
Is Ever Banega not out for six months after being run over by his own car?
Is this true ed? Plz tell me it is.
Indian Buzzer {Ed002's Note - Is what true?}
Ed is this macca? find it hard to trust anyone else on here {Ed001's Note - nope.}
The director of Pachuca seems to think hes very good but I havent seen him.play
Yes I collate my information from various sources including social media but have spent quite a considrrable time sifting through the shrapnel to locate reliable sources of information and so am not "just posting the twitter rumours"
Thanks
Mac
About cruyyf n banega.
Indian Buzzer {Ed002's Note - I don't know what the situation is with Cruyff but there is some interest. As for Banega I don't know of any interest.}
Ever Banega broke his ankle back at the end of February and will be out for atleast another 4 months. His car role over his ankle having forgotten to apply the brakes supposedly.
Three S's spring to mind; T.Silva, R.sterling, J"Suso"F although Suso would probably only get the odd cup game.
13 Apr 2012 10:51:41
Right this is what ive heard might not be 100% accurate so dont go ballistic if its not all right.
As we know in basic terms daglish picked the targets and commoli dealt with the transfers. The board are relatively happy with the people weve bought (altho the long term goal is that they will all be squad players with the exception of enrique, expect suarez to be sold due to off pitch behaviour well say) mainly believing that its important to have an english spine to the team especially to fit with home grown rules. The biggest problem is the amount we spent on them especially due to their performances long story short Commoli was happy to leave family unsettled, KK not too fussed as he was not his first choice and takes some of the pressure off him. I have no idea who the replacement well be at this time i expect more than one big name staff to join though.
The board have faith in kenny and will not pressure KK into leaving the manager role if we win the fa cup and finish in the top 10 if this is not met KK will go back to his old role in the club. KK himself might step aside regardless due to media, and family commitments. Transfers going out will vary on manager but suarez and cole aquaman will go regardless. As for ins expect 3-4 transfers to come in a right winger, two strikers and a versatille midfielder targets do include names macca mentioned aswell as Reus, johnson and milner (only if city want to get rid of them) asomoah,montolivo,piatti and possibly doumbia anyway thats what ive heard read into it what you will
Reus has already agreed to sign for Borussia Dortmund, its all official and has been since january therefore you are talking out your arse.
KiwiRed
Reus is going back to dortmund in the summer, maybe next time mate.
That is some waffel my friend!
Rues has gone to munich i think {Ed002's Note - Dortmund.}
You were doing ok with you BS until you said Reus. If you had any inside info you would realize the Reus has already agreed to join Broussia Dortmund and will be there next season, making it impossible that he will be a target
K-man
Reus is already due to go to Dortmund in the Summer.
Ah sorry about that Rues was a target im told just a mistake relax but like i said these are only rumours not facts
Utter nonsense. All this guy has done is name players off the top of his head. Inside information...my a**e!
Suarez to definitely go? and Kenny's future resting on winning the FA cup? Hmmm!
What a dufus! Love the way he gets on here as if he is the voice of authority talking about the board and transfers in...Macca wannabee by the sounds of it.
13 Apr 2012 10:00:24
Why is it that a few people are posting about a Xavi Alonso return? Did I miss something or is it just people fantasising ? Cheers. Chris.
Just people fantasising Chris, some people need to learn that the way forward is not going back.... Great player though with 2 or 3 years left in him, but we need to move on
Sure theyre not talking about Xavi Valero, goalkeeping coach?
It's not really important and it's a bit pedantic but it's Xabi not Xavi.
Also its very wishful thinking from some.
Sad state of affairs when an ex-player who was deemed surplus to requirements returning is 'very wishful thinking'.
13 Apr 2012 09:45:04
Ed, Im hearing we are interested in Valencia's Ever Banega. Can you confirm that it is the case? Thanks and keep up the good work {Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware.}
Ever Banega? The player who ran his own car over himself? I don't think so.
Was he inside his car when he ran it over himself? Banega is class and would compliment Lucas to a tee. Providing he made a full recovery from his accident, would welcome him with open arms.
13 Apr 2012 07:35:40
Johan cruyff, the Dutch legend has been linked with director of football role at pool, that would be a smart move by fsg, with his links in holland, he could tap into the best players their and all of euroPe, he still has links in Spain and with barca. Jonny71
I thin that he'd be appointed on the grounds of what he has done on barca and that kenny recommended him rather than the players that he could get from holland
13 Apr 2012 07:20:08
Hey ed, have we ever considered Walcott since he's young, pacey, British and a Liverpool fan, in my opinion he would be perfect on the right wing. {Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware.}
Perfect for what? he has pace and.... nothing else!
Why do u people keep goin on about Walcott? He is gash beyond belief!! I would rather have kuyt on the right wing with no pace than that donkey! All pace nothing else, not even a brain in his skull!
He has done nothing at Arsenal at all. He has pace but does nothing with the ball in the box.
In addiotion to the accurate assessments of him above, he also spends for too much time on the treatment table.
I think he could be good if he got a long run centrally as he has a good finish and pace but he is a poor winger
Im a liverpool fan can i play for us
13 Apr 2012 01:30:48
A new management structure is in the process of being built at Anfield. David Dein will be brought in to oversee player recruitment and contract negotiations whereas Johan Cruyff will lead and structure a new scouting network. Effectively, David Dein will be appointed to a role that is more or less a DoF and Cruyff will be more of a chief scout, but both job roles will be heavily interlinked and just as crucial as one another to the new structure FSG want to put in place. This is what Tom Werner was referring to earlier when he mentioned about 'tweaking' the job role of a DoF.
Louis Van Gaal would also take the role but I believe he would try and take the opportunity to try and force his way into the managerial hotseat at the expense of Dalglish. Txiki Begiristain is another under consideration but it seems as if Dein and Cruyff are the two the board want most.
Mitchy
Too many cooks?
David Dein likes doing things his way, Johann Cryuff has just been let go by Ajax after a long court case, the club insisting they intend to carry on Johann's footballing philosophy and Kenny Dalglish who knows more about Liverpool F.C than the owners and the pre-supposed appointments your comments make mention of.
All i can foresee is a clash of horns in with three people who are used to getting their own way put on the front agenda.
Logic n' Reason
Oddly... i can see that. chances of it happening 25% but i could see it
I just don't see how this is workable. This is a recipe for internal turf battles and infighting. Cruyff, Dalglish and Dein all trying to run one club?
I'm not sure Cruyff is keen on the job given his health and the structural reshuffling taking place at Ajax where he will have a new position after leaving the board. Something like technical adviser I think is what his position will be called
Love the idea. Not sure it'll happen, but FSG seem to want to make a 'team'. It could go both ways, for one too many cooks can spoil the broth. The other, it'll work out fantastic with all the different viewpoints, gelling right into place.
The second one seems far fetched. But if each person has their own role, i cannot see a problem.
Deins the man for the job
13 Apr 2012 00:47:15
BBC reported Liverpool are considering to offer cruyff a position at the club following comolli's dismissal. Though its still unknown whether cruyff is interested in the position.
If Mr henry can pull this off he will be a genius... One of the biggest names in football! Plus we will have more chance to attract my favourite young player - eriksen.
Fingers crossed everybody.
But didn't Cruyff just join Chivas for director or something in Feb this year? And Eds with the departure of Comolli does that mean the previous interests with Soldado and Munian are now gone? THX
C {Ed002's Note - He is at Ajax and you will need to wait over these "targets".}
Fingers crossed toes crossed legs crossed arms crossed.
If this is true then the future is very very bright, shows fsg are building for a long term of success. Let the glory days return to anfield again, may take a couple of seasons but at least it won't be a flash in the pan like rafa.
A flash in the pan like rafa?
And was it Rafa's afault the Yanks kept selling his players?
PS NESV have only profited til now. Is Cruyff gonna be a big fan of sell to buy?
13 Apr 2012 00:34:48
Hi Eds,
If the sackings are occuring because they failed to do they're jobs, surely it would follow that Kenny would be sacked.
I'm not advocating him being sacked but if this is they're policyit would seen logical.
has there been any suggestion of this?
cheers eds
Jamie {Ed001's Note - not of sacking him, no.}
I think the owners are more concerned with building a solid foundation for the academy. Obviously since DC has come in not much has changed, except for the addition of ibe, which we should be grateful for. Which is why the club is looking at cruyff, he has worked wonders on the Ajax and barca academy. The owners will be in no rush to sack dalglish before a replacement is identified, unless if he continues to lose until the end of season.
STB
They are only going to let him see out the current season
Kenny will be here next season as well, at the very least.
13 Apr 2012 00:31:24
Hi Eds,
Do you know why we did not get Cruyff if he was Kenny's first choice?
Thanks
Mclovin {Ed001's Note - I am told Comolli had already talked his way into the job.}
13 Apr 2012 00:11:48
Eds/Macca, do you guys know any of our targets for DoF? and are these Cruyff rumours true?
Thanks
Kindest Regards {Ed001's Note - the only thing I know is that Cruyff was Dalglish's recommendation before DC was appointed, I would assume he has not changed his stance on that.}
John W Henry admitted himself in his first full interview soon after NESV took over.
NESV went for Comolli on the advice of Billy Beane, who told him all the good work he did under Wenger and at Tottenham with youth players.
Check the interview.
Ollie