Liverpool Rumours Archive February 17 2011
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17 Feb 2011 23:49:41
Newcastle full-back Jose Enrique claims he would like to join Liverpool
17 Feb 2011 21:44:52
Question for Ed. . I know we've been looking for a playmaker over the last couple of months but i read a statement from Alberto Aquilani earlier today on some Italian website that he feels Liverpool are making it very difficult for Juventus regarding a transfer fee (Liverpool want at least 16m for him). . Do you think we could see Aquilani back at Anfield in the Summer or is Kenny just keeping his options open? ?
Rocky {ed's note - Liverpool are just sticking to the agreement made when they took Aqualani, Juve are trying to get the price reduced. Nothing more than haggling.}
17 Feb 2011 21:02:47
Do you think we will go for Scott Dann now birmingham are not going to ihis contract?
would be good addition to our squad not sure what he would cost but £10 mill's fair
What you reckon Ed?
MickyDover {ed's note - I don't think he is good enough, nor do I have any info regarding him being a target at all. But it is always possible, he is a Scouser and we are after a centre back.}
17 Feb 2011 20:45:54
This is theturdz speaking
and this is no s**te a mate of mine who ive been doin some work for goes to the same gym as phil thompson and hes really bigging up kk and the fenway group he says they gona back him to the hilt this summer and he says they lookin at 100million for players that's what these guys ready to invest cos they know they can get massive returns now kk is in charge and the stadium plans will be givin the green light within 12 months these guys aint messin about they know they own the jewel in the crown of english football and maybe possibly the biggest name in world football so they gona make sure it gets to all corners of the globe in respect of advertising and marketing no wonder hicks and gillett feel they were victims of an epic swindle
17 Feb 2011 19:56:22
Summer Signings:
Taiwo - Free
Marvaeux - Free
Wickham/ Gerviniho - 5-10 Million
Adam - 5-10 Million
De Gea - 15 Million (If Reina Goes)
Kjaer - 10 Million
17 Feb 2011 19:40:09
Ed do you really think we are looking at Lukaku?
Because i think he won't fit into a team with Carroll {ed's note - we were looking at Lukaku in January, I don't expect us to move for him in the summer. I think we wanted him or Carroll, rather than him and Carroll.}
17 Feb 2011 19:16:22
Firstly I agree that the reference to anyones skin colour is irrelevant and wasnt nessecary with regard to a rumour about who we may or may not be buying. and that is why some ppl feel it was worth debating. I doubt very much tho that the Original poster made the comment to be offensive or that most Black ppl would be offended, Personally i think its just a reflection of how as a society we react to things we are told we should be offended by.
However, Why is this being discussed on the rumours page and not the banter page?
Anytime i reply to a rumour statement with anything other than another rumour then my post is placed on the banter or wish list pages so why is this taking up space here?
ItsNotRocketScience
{Editor's Note: It should never have been - but we are done now.}
17 Feb 2011 19:12:56
Evening everybody.
Eds, long time reader, first time poster great site and all that. Started to come one here just as NESV were buying up, and i have to say, todays 'race/ political correctness' is the most entertaining thing i've read on here! I thought most of the posters on hear we're regular level head football fans, but some of the stuff that has been going on here today has had me sat on the couch laughing out loud! Good job the missus is out or she'd think i was mental.
Oh yeah, and think about it folks, Is calling a black guy black really that bad. He'd probably be more offended if you called him white.
Keep up the good work fellas!(and i mean the eds not the PC brigade)
bennytee
{Editor's Note: There should be no racism on this site, and there isn't as far as I know. One or two posts slip through the net sometimes but the Eds are only human - at least most of us in any case. There was nothing racist in the original post and it is a pity that some folks have seen it as an issue. But time has come to end that theme now and start thinking about the game tonight. Thanks for the post.}
17 Feb 2011 19:01:23
Never mind black or white the only colour is RED now shut the fu@k up! KK is in europe COME ON! ! !
17 Feb 2011 18:44:38
I don't care what colour any body is black white pink
as long as there reds .black is only racist if meant as an insult and not a discription end of.
soul man .
17 Feb 2011 18:46:26
Summer ins:
Arda Turan
Sylvain Marveaux
Gary Cahill
Eden Hazard
Bojan Krkic
Yan'm'Vila
Davide Santon
Summer outs:
Alberto Aquilani
Joe Cole
Milan Jovanovic
Sotiros Krygiakos (Free Agent)
Emiliano Insua (Free Agent)
Christian Poulsen
Paul Konkckesky
Philipp Degen
Nabil el Zhar
Stephen Darby
David Amoo
17 Feb 2011 18:25:28
Ba ba black sheep have u any wool, is no longer used no more, neither is the term black board, which is just totally nonsense, now all this on a rumour site. Go on question time if u want to b p c. There is certain words tha r used to describe a person race or colour, which r racist, an not acceptable, however black isn't 1 of them
The wock
17 Feb 2011 18:20:13
Just on a slightly trivial note, anyone got an inside nod on the team tonight? Sorry to interupt the hot political debate.
Muzmacol ynwa
17 Feb 2011 17:35:12
Can we all just stop this "racist" stuff now please, this is a rumours site, not a forum on what's racist and not.
17 Feb 2011 17:36:47
What?! !
So in what context would you talk about colour in football mate?
What way would you want to talk about black players or white players, instead of just players?
You are talking nonsense!
"You should be able to decribe what somebody looks like i.e. skin tone, without being called racist!"
So four players on the pitch, you say 'the black one'? Not, the number six or the wide player? You can't say Joe Smith rather than 'the black player'?
Think again my friend!
No you think again you liberal wetrag. You can't tell someone how to think, and if there is a team of players and one is black anyone would say "the black guy" rather than the number 6 etc BECAUSE THAT'S HOW YOUR BRAIN IDENTIFIES THEM! In extension of that you would naturally say "the black guy on the wing" etc.
That's not racist it's descriptive, in the same way you say "the tall/ short/ skinny/ fat guy". Or in your magical world are we no longer allowed to describe people in case they don't like the description? Your brain SEES the colour. The reflected light is interpreted by your brain differently and identifies them as a different colour. . . and you want people to edit their thoughts because their observations offend your infantile metrosexual sensibilities? JOG ON.
Colours are not politically incorrect. How offensive do you find it being called white you moron? Or your hair is black? So why if your skin is black is it a problem? It is merely the imagined connotations of colour that could be construed to be offensive, and the most important word to note in that sentence is IMAGINED.
So now people can't say the word black. Man, i'm so glad your opinion holds no weight whatsoever or we would all be doomed.
Duckula
17 Feb 2011 17:37:39
Might as well throw my 2 pence into the hat of mixed metaphors regarding "blackgate" as its now being known.
Ed have to agree with you, in the original post the word black was descriptive, not derogatory, racist or anything like. If someone is black why are we not allowed to say it, it accurately describes that person, same as if someone is Arabian they could be described as an Arab, or if someone practices the religion of Islam they could be referred to as a Muslim. It really is a sad time if we are so scared of offending someone that we cannot use adjectives which accurately describe them. Very sad indeed. But as the saying goes you can please some of the people all of the time and all of the people some of the time but never all of the people all of the time. It saddens me that in today's supposedly tolerant society that we cannot say anything without someone being offended. Incidentally there was a case in the US a few years back where a white (its ok that i said he's white isn't it?) man abused a black man by calling him a black b**tard, the black guy pressed charges on the basis that it was a racial slur (or something similar, i forget the details) but the judge through the case out as the black man was surprisingly black) Ah for a little common sense!
17 Feb 2011 17:39:09
Give up you shower of muppets this is a scoccer site , Grow up
17 Feb 2011 17:46:27
Press believe to vote we talk football prior to king kenny marching back into Europe.
Press unbelieve to continue petty debates over issues that aren't there. .
Great site eds, keep it up!
Carrick Red
17 Feb 2011 17:48:58
"3 big black lads"
So long as :-
a) there are three of them
b) they are big
c) they are of african-caribbean extraction
d) they are male
Then it is merely stating a fact.
17 Feb 2011 17:49:25
I'm big and mixed race, I really struggle to see what is offensive about the term "black", especially when I am very proud of my "black" roots.
17 Feb 2011 17:33:00
{Editor's Note: I think the sad thing is that folks see the inclusion of the word "black" to be an issue at all.}
Well if you Eds are supposed to be editors or moderators, didn't it occur to you that it might be a little too offensive in the first post?
You always seem reluctant to discuss the gay issue on this site, yet you seem perfectly happy to chuck in the race card. {ed's note - what 'race' card? Grow up! You are the one bringing race into it, it was a description, not a derogatory piece of abuse.}
GET A GRIP PEOPLE, WHAT IS SO OFFENSIVE. I'M WHITE, IF SOMEONE CALLED ME WHITE I WOULDNT CARE LESS, SO WHATS THE DIFFERENCE? POLITICAL CORRECTNESS IS THE BANE OF ALL COMMUNICATION. AND DONT GIVE ME RACE CARD CRAP, OR GAY CRAP ETC, JUST DO YOURSELF A BOG FAVOUR AND EITHER STAY OFF THIS SITE OR GROW UP. PATHETIC!
17 Feb 2011 17:33:01
"Liverpool to sign 3 big black lads; Lukaku, Gervinho and Cissokho"
Obviously a midlle-aged poster or a poster with little do except be abusive and racist.
Why are we still having CLOWNS like this posting drivel? {ed's note - I am sorry but what is abusive about that post? Because he used the word black? Is that an abusive term now?}
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OH MY GOD! IS THIS WHAT HAS CAUSED ALL THE TROUBLE, GROUP UP YOU FECKING IDIOT! Is derogatory to call somebody black now? It's people like you who allow racial tension to thrive, what a douche!
17 Feb 2011 17:32:37
Ed i would loke to agree with you in the whole "black" matter, i'm not racist at all so you all know.
i agree that alot of the emphasis on the word black is on how the reader takes it into account!
white people and balck people will allways refer to each other by colour and we will allways bring in differet attributes to a team and the game of football get over it, can we go back to rumours!
would like to see gervinho or turan come in but if we could cover the full backs, i think glen would fit the right wing role very well. i'm sorry but maxi doesn't have the pace or skill as much as i love him, same with kuyt want to see him up top alot more than rw! i don't like seeing peoples wish lists with not one british player in it, we can look within our own ranks for alot of players, wilson - coady - pach - suso - sterling!
billynwa
17 Feb 2011 17:29:29
17 Feb 2011 16:31:00
17 Feb 2011 15:41:49
I'm black and being called big and black is a compliment to be honest, especially when it comes from the ladies!
You see i like people like this, someone who can have a bit of banter instead of being PC all the time. Well done mate :)
NI RED
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Well said, in my opinion political correctness only creates more problems and hatred!
17 Feb 2011 16:05:48
{Editor's Note: I think the sad thing is that folks see the inclusion of the word "black" to be an issue at all.}
Well if you Eds are supposed to be editors or moderators, didn't it occur to you that it might be a little too offensive in the first post?
You always seem reluctant to discuss the gay issue on this site, yet you seem perfectly happy to chuck in the race card. {ed's note - what 'race' card? Grow up! You are the one bringing race into it, it was a description, not a derogatory piece of abuse.}
17 Feb 2011 16:12:33
Next time someone might find the word "big" in big lad find offensive to small people?
17 Feb 2011 16:23:56
Clearly the need to mention that they are black is discriminative in itself?at the end of the day if the said players were Caucasian, skin colour wouldn't have been mentioned, albeit I don't think what he said was racist, it was needless and inconsiderate. And possibly shouldn't have been allowed to be posted in the first place.
MarkyMark
{Editor's Note: I think the sad thing is that folks see the inclusion of the word "black" to be an issue at all.}
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It amazes me how people are frightened to talk about colour, the worst case is boxing, it drives me mad when when they introduce the boxers-
In the red corner, Calzaghe in the black shorts with a gold stripe and red dots
In the blue corner, Lacey in the black shorts with a gold stripe and green dots.
Why not, Calzaghe's the white guy, Lacey the black guy?
Political Correctness in England is rediculous!
17 Feb 2011 16:28:44
Liverpool to Sign 3 big black lads 2 middle sized white lads and one rather small yellow lad.
Now that i have tried taking all skin colours into consideration im not being raceist.
Fair enough i don't know why this talk would be taken the wrong way. I have many black (or coloured to be politically correct) friends and asked some of them how they felt about that comment and they said them lads must be built like tanks. I asked do you not consider this at all raceist and there remarks varied but with the same outcome. Would i be offended if they called me a skinny white boy to which i laughed and said im sueing your ass.
Ed i really don't know how you do it. .
Quigz23
17 Feb 2011 16:28:46
What?! !
So in what context would you talk about colour in football mate?
What way would you want to talk about black players or white players, instead of just players?
You are talking nonsense!
"You should be able to decribe what somebody looks like i.e. skin tone, without being called racist!"
So four players on the pitch, you say 'the black one'? Not, the number six or the wide player? You can't say Joe Smith rather than 'the black player'?
Think again my friend!
Im sorry but when did I say in my original post too run about saying "the black one" instead of the number 6 or so on. All i was doing was trying to get people to stop creating differences between races, we all want to be treated equally. Sometimes its just easier to describe somebody by saying what their skin tone is. For instance, if I was standing in a crowd of different races and someone called out the guy with the white skin tone, I personally would not be offended in anyway. I don't mean any offence at all.
NI RED
17 Feb 2011 16:31:00
17 Feb 2011 15:41:49
I'm black and being called big and black is a compliment to be honest, especially when it comes from the ladies!
You see i like people like this, someone who can have a bit of banter instead of being PC all the time. Well done mate :)
NI RED
17 Feb 2011 16:31:49
17 Feb 2011 15:07:16
"Liverpool to sign 3 big black lads; Lukaku, Gervinho and Cissokho"
Obviously a midlle-aged poster or a poster with little do except be abusive and racist.
Why are we still having CLOWNS like this posting drivel? {ed's note - I am sorry but what is abusive about that post? Because he used the word black? Is that an abusive term now?}
Or just the poster's preference slipping out. Wenger likes his young, this poster likes his/ her's black. Where's the problem?
And why would the poster necessarily be middle-aged? You accuse the poster of racism, using ageism. On the moral high ground, you are not.
17 Feb 2011 16:36:56
Adam for £6.3m, weird, sinse we saw bids of £8m turned down in Jan.
Kjaer would be a decent move, but why move for another midfielder when Suso could move up.
Wickham is the same, Sterling or Pachecho can move up.
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the reason Adam will be so cheap is cuz he will be in his last year of his contact and Kjaer is a defender so he will probs take carra's place in a few years time. but i do argee with not signing Wickham let Pachecho have a run in the team
17 Feb 2011 16:45:42
Ed it think people's point's at the guy posted 3 big blacks guys and that they used the word black in it which has nothing to do with anything really it just highlights that we are signing black people which should never be an issue or even highlighted in the first place, i can see why it would be offensive to some people, just maybe think u should not of posted it as u may of thought it could lead to a race issue, so i think u have it wrong on this ed by saying theres nothing wrong with posting it. maybe something to have a think about and try and understand, but great site i must say!
wildswan79 {ed's note - I am sorry but I am not here to worry about people's pathetic sensitivities. Next we won't be able to say we are signing a Argentinian because it might suggest there is a problem with his country of birth being different.}
17 Feb 2011 17:02:17
Is this football rumours or whats racist and whats not?
How can you think calling some black is racist. . Your not gonna call them white are you. . I have lots of friends that are black and i don't think they would find someone saying they are black racist at all!
Some people really need to find something to fill that void they call life and just give it a rest!
Ed Will you just make this football Rumours now, Get rid of any post irrelivent to football itself (Not Including This one :) )
RedRodge
17 Feb 2011 17:02:52
Gervinho isn't big
17 Feb 2011 17:04:35
"Liverpool to sign 3 big black lads; Lukaku, Gervinho and Cissokho"
Obviously a midlle-aged poster or a poster with little do except be abusive and racist.
Why are we still having CLOWNS like this posting drivel? {ed's note - I am sorry but what is abusive about that post? Because he used the word black? Is that an abusive term now?}
ED: I think you miss the point on this. What does the use of the word 'black' add to the sentence?
Written as "Liverpool to sign 3 big lads" would suggest we are looking at three strong, young players. Their colour is irrelevant, but the addition of black suggests as they are black they are big, maybe aggressive and that inference, in itself, is uncalled for and somewhat racist.
Thank God the poster didn't say "three big Arab boys, " or "three big Muslim lads!"
By your logic what does the use of the terms "big" or "lads" add to the sentence? why not just say "Liverpool sign 3 players"? the original comment is by no means racist and this whole debate needs to be put to bed, so we can carry on discussing football.
17 Feb 2011 17:09:05
Read the " big black guys" comment earlier in the day, made me smile and thought that will upset some sad individuals, but i did not expect to come home and read some of the comments, would we be even discussing it should it have read, we are looking at three big white guys for the summer?
17 Feb 2011 17:09:07
As I said it was completely needless to mention the word black, why should a Caucasian be simply known as "a big tall centre back" and a Person from another race be known as "big tall black centre back", I mean why the need to mention that their black?
Your opening a can of worms by claiming it's not an issue with the inclusion of the word black. .
Your basically saying it's the same to call someone a black b**tard as it is to simply calling them a b**tard?
The inclusion of the word black in the original post was clearly needless, it's the first time I've seen it used on this page personally, as I said I don't think it was racist but I do think it was inconsiderate and I'll-judged. . {ed's note - hardly the same thing, you are implying that using his colour as part of an insult is the same as mentioning it as a description. Idiotic and nonsensical argument you have there and completely irrelevant.}
17 Feb 2011 15:41:41
Liverpool Summer Transfers
IN
Sylvain Marveaux - £0m (Rennes)
Blaise Matuidi - £8m (St Etienne)
Taye Taiwo - £0m (Marseille)
Connor Thomas - £1m (Coventry)
Simon Kjaer - £11.5m (Wolfsburg)
Daniel Sturridge - £6m (Chelsea)
OUT
Alberto Aquilani - £13.2m (Juventus)
Emiliano Insua - £4m (Galatasaray)
Martin Hansen - £0m
Milan Jovanovic - £4.5m
Sotirios Krygiakos - £0m
Christian Poulsen - £3m
Please post on Rumours Page. Eds what do you think to these predictions. This isn't a wish list but what I think will turn out?
LFCDave
17 Feb 2011 15:41:49
I'm black and being called big and black is a compliment to be honest, especially when it comes from the ladies!
17 Feb 2011 15:38:36
{ed's note - again I fail to see that reference at all. I agree the use of the word black is superfluous, but there is nothing to suggest anything other than it is the colour of their skin. Any extra meaning is given by the reader, that is clear. All the poster said is that they are big and they are black and there are 3 of them. If you have taken that to mean anything more then it is you who has the problem mate.}
The opening point that you have made here is the crux of the matter. I am not a bleeding heart liberal nor am I in anyway politically correct, but essentially there was no need for the poster to use the word black as it added nothing to the rumour. Not all black athletes are big (look at Samuel Eto'o) so that can not be used as an excuse. However, to try to pass the onus of interpretation back on to the reader is churlish as you are the person who could have negated the whole issue by simply removing the word 'black' from the initial post. Who would have known any different? {ed's note - again I fail to see your point, why remove a word that has no insulting derivation to it, unless you are saying it is an insult to call a black player black? You are clearly far too PC.}
17 Feb 2011 15:38:52
Ed I have to totally agree with you there! when people mention the colour of someones skin its not them being a racist, its the people who put extra meaning to it that are the racist ones. You should be able to decribe what somebody looks like i.e. skin tone, without being called racist!
What?! ! !
So in what context would you talk about colour in football mate?
What way would you want to talk about black players or white players, instead of just players?
You are talking nonsense!
"You should be able to decribe what somebody looks like i.e. skin tone, without being called racist!"
So four players on the pitch, you say 'the black one'? Not, the number six or the wide player? You can't say Joe Smith rather than 'the black player'?
Think again my friend!
17 Feb 2011 15:29:39
{ed's note - again I fail to see that reference at all. I agree the use of the word black is superfluous, but there is nothing to suggest anything other than it is the colour of their skin. Any extra meaning is given by the reader, that is clear. All the poster said is that they are big and they are black and there are 3 of them. If you have taken that to mean anything more then it is you who has the problem mate.}
Ed I have to totally agree with you there! when people mention the colour of someones skin its not them being a racist, its the people who put extra meaning to it that are the racist ones. You should be able to decribe what somebody looks like i.e. skin tone, without being called racist!
NI RED
17 Feb 2011 15:16:04
Your going to sell Insua, a promising and talented left back, proven in prem, and then spend 10m more than we sold him for to bring in Coentrao, behave.
Adam for £6.3m, weird, sinse we saw bids of £8m turned down in Jan.
Kjaer would be a decent move, but why move for another midfielder when Suso could move up.
Wickham is the same, Sterling or Pachecho can move up.
Just to provide a counterpoint to Anfield Andy's arguments - Insua's biggest talent was to try and spend all of his wages in the local cake shops. He has ability but at the end of the day is a fat lump.
When did Suso become a centre half which Simon Kjaer is - he plays alongside Agger for Denmark.
If you have ever seen Conor Wickham and then looked at Raheem Sterling or Dani Pacheco then you would know that there is no way on this earth that they could be considered comparible (even if they did play in the same positions).
It's great that people want to contribute but some fundamental basis of fact would be helpful.
Unfortunately the rumours regarding who will play on our left next season appear to be wide of the mark as I have been informed by my cousin (who is a season ticket holder at the Lane) that Kranjcar to Liverpool is nailed on for £10.5 million.
17 Feb 2011 15:15:13
"Liverpool to sign 3 big black lads; Lukaku, Gervinho and Cissokho"
Obviously a midlle-aged poster or a poster with little do except be abusive and racist.
Why are we still having CLOWNS like this posting drivel? {ed's note - I am sorry but what is abusive about that post? Because he used the word black? Is that an abusive term now?}
ED: I think you miss the point on this. What does the use of the word 'black' add to the sentence?
Written as "Liverpool to sign 3 big lads" would suggest we are looking at three strong, young players. Their colour is irrelevant, but the addition of black suggests as they are black they are big, maybe aggressive and that inference, in itself, is uncalled for and somewhat racist.
Thank God the poster didn't say "three big Arab boys, " or "three big Muslim lads!"
Steve Parker {ed's note - again I fail to see that reference at all. I agree the use of the word black is superfluous, but there is nothing to suggest anything other than it is the colour of their skin. Any extra meaning is given by the reader, that is clear. All the poster said is that they are big and they are black and there are 3 of them. If you have taken that to mean anything more then it is you who has the problem mate.}
17 Feb 2011 15:06:30
17 Feb 2011 09:30:47
Re:
17 Feb 2011 01:49:38
Liverpool to sign 3 big black lads; Lukaku, Gervinho and Cissokho
Great if it's true but what is the relevance of their skin colour? I don't remember anyone announcing the signing of two white strikers on deadline day.
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not my post originally but come on, the guys not being raceist its just a generalisation and if you read it he says BIG black lads, which would give you the extra strength on the pitch you need (Look at Chelsea!) Its not offencive, Black sportsmen are more physically adept than white sportsmen. . not in every case ill accept but more often than not. If you disagree you are just tryng to kid yourself and doing the usual political correctness treading on egg shells!
17 Feb 2011 15:07:16
"Liverpool to sign 3 big black lads; Lukaku, Gervinho and Cissokho"
Obviously a midlle-aged poster or a poster with little do except be abusive and racist.
Why are we still having CLOWNS like this posting drivel? {ed's note - I am sorry but what is abusive about that post? Because he used the word black? Is that an abusive term now?}
17 Feb 2011 14:57:25
Liverpool to sign 3 big black lads; Lukaku, Gervinho and Cissokho
Why would you possibly mention colour in regards to potential signings? I'm a white guy but couldn't care less if a player, who is good enough to don the red shirt, comes from Mars. I was under the belief that we were living in a more enlightened and tolerant time now. I would love to see these 3 guys play at Anfield, but simply based on their abilities.
17 Feb 2011 14:47:03
There's a rumour going around on some sites (apparently it originates from the Gazetto newspaper) that Juventus may pass on Aquilani.
The stumbling block appears to be the wages involved and the reports suggest that he may return to Anfield. I think this is unlikely, he doesn't want a return to England and I'm sure there'd be other teams in Serie A willing to take him on (which may cause his value to rise - if he continues to perform and Juve pass, surely other interested parties would have to negotitate with us over price and that may exceed the tag agreed with Juve).
Has anyone else heard this?
Parma Violet
{Editor's Note: I understand that this may be more than a rumour inasmuch as Juventus want to strike a deal that will see either a reduction in wages or transfer fee. I expect Liverpool to resist and to instruct Aquilani's agent to seek an alternate option for his client should Juve decide not to proceed.}
17 Feb 2011 14:43:11
Liverpool will not renew their interest in Charlie Adam as they are not willing to meet Blackpool's £14m valuation and instead are set to test Arsenal with a £20m move for Jack Wilshere. Barcelona have admitted they will not be bidding for Cesc Faregas this summer due to financial restrictions and Arsenal have Fabregas, Nasri, Rosicky and Ramsey all in the Wilshere mould and may be willing to sell if Wenger can land Oxlade-Chamberlain and/ or Edin Hazard.Wilshere has said in recent times that Joe Cole was his boyhood hero, Wilshere also said he enjoys playing with Andy Carroll and thinks he will turn into a world renound superstar at Anfield.
17 Feb 2011 14:45:40
Can anyone tell me how to watch online using google chrome extensions? ?
bob lee swagger
{Editor's Note: As previously posted by RED LENIN:}
HOW TO WATCH LIVERPOOL ON THE INTERNET
1. Install the browser Google Chrome.
2. Look in the top right (your right) corner and you will see a spanner.
3. Click on the spanner and select 'tools'.
4. Click on extensions
5. At the bottom right (as you look at it) you will see 'Get More Extensions >>'. Select this.
6. In the search box type 'Chrome Live Football' and search.
7. Click on Chrome Live Football and then click on install. (it may download to a holding file in the bottom left as you look at it, in which case as soon as it's finished click there, but mostly it will install itself)
8. A small football will then appear in the top right (as you look at it). Click on that, select 'live stream' and reset the clock to GMT and it will list all the live games available all over europe and other places.
You may occasionally need to install other programmes or the link you pick will only work on Explorer (in which case cut and paste the URL into Explorer), but you will always get every Liverpool match (or any other). Sometimes you will only be able to find it with foreign commentary and sometimes you will get it in English. You'll get about thirty links and you may have to look through a lot of them to get what you want. You will also get most La Liga matches, Greek matches, Italian matches and French matches as well as top matches from South America.
Someone also asked about viruses etc. Google Chrome is actually far more secure than Internet Explorer so the risks are considerably less, but you should have decent virus/spyware programmes and run sweeps regularly as a matter of course.
The quality will also depend on the speed of your internet connection. If you have super-speed and have a modern HD TV, consider connecting your PC to the TV via the PC socket on the side/ back.
Cut and paste the above into a document and save it for future reference.
Happy watching.
17 Feb 2011 14:12:23
Outs-
Emiliano Insua - 2m
Nabil El Zhar - 1.25m
Philipp Degen - 750k
Paul Konchesky - 1.25m
Alberto Aquilani - 8.5m
David N'Gog - 2m
Joe Cole - 2.5m
Maxi Rodriguez - 1.5m
Sotirios Kyrgiakos - 750k
Peter Gulacsi - 500k
total = 21 m
Ins -
Adam - 6.5m
enrique - 12.5 m
total = 19m
so net of + 2m back into the coffers and KK will use the younger sqaud members as we have some very up and coming promising kids to take over and he wants to use them to learn from the likes of Stevie G and carra before they retire.
17 Feb 2011 14:16:15
In will be
Kjaer Coentrao Marveaux Adam Gervinho Wickham
Out
Soto Ngog Jovanovic Konchesky Aquliani Insua El Zar Degen"
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Your going to sell Insua, a promising and talented left back, proven in prem, and then spend 10m more than we sold him for to bring in Coentrao, behave.
Adam for £6.3m, weird, sinse we saw bids of £8m turned down in Jan.
Kjaer would be a decent move, but why move for another midfielder when Suso could move up.
Wickham is the same, Sterling or Pachecho can move up.
El Zhar, Degen, Ngog, Konchesky, yea, have to agree and would liek to see them replaced by a few of our youth, with maybe one addition from the market in the form of a right winger, Marveux does appear to fit the bill for that, along with Sterling, use Kuyt as he is meant, a striker, due to the fact he cannot cross for siht!
Anfield Andy
17 Feb 2011 13:43:17
"In will be
Kjaer Coentrao Marveaux Adam Gervinho Wickham
Out
Soto Ngog Jovanovic Konchesky Aquliani Insua El Zar Degen"
I think you'll find that we would have to recoup a similar amount to the one we would have to pay out even if we went for all these players.
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I think you'll find that the financial constraint rules come in yes but they are minimal in the first 2 years.
The net spend from the past 2 windows is negative, we must surely have at least 25m of revenue saved. We will get at least 20m from the sales of the players noted as 'out'. But I would also expect Poulsen and Maxi and some younger players to be sold which would add a few million.
The players in current transfer values are: Kjaer 9.6m, Coentrao 14.5m, Marveaux wages only, Adam 6.3m, Gervinho 9.6m, Wickham 3.5m = 43.5m - some of these prices will go down in the summer as they will be in last 18 months of contract.
{Editor's Note: If Coentrao moves it will likely be to Manchester United or Real Madrid. Ipswich have already turned down a much larger offer for Wickham than the £3.5M you note. I would expect the other players to all cost higher than you suggest as well. The money to be made available by NESV will largely come in the first instance from money generated by the club, which needs to be self-sufficient as we all know. I think if you are expecting NESV to throw enormous sums of their own money in to transfers, you will have a bit of a long wait until that happens. I do however have no doubts that they will provided some additional financing themselves as necessary.}
17 Feb 2011 13:12:24
I've heard from my friend that Liverpool have enquired about Riccardo Montolivo of Fiorentina, I think he's class from what i've seen of him, great range of passes like Alonso (if Alonso becomes available in the summer doh i think Kenny would take him back instead)
17 Feb 2011 12:19:19
"In will be
Kjaer Coentrao Marveaux Adam Gervinho Wickham
Out
Soto Ngog Jovanovic Konchesky Aquliani Insua El Zar Degen"
I think you'll find that we would have to recoup a similar amount to the one we would have to pay out even if we went for all these players.
Looking at your list, i suspect we could be many millions apart, unless we can find some daft club A) willing to buy Konchesky and B) willing to give us the millions needed to buy Coentrao?
We will buy what we raise in sales with a small amount given if we make a profit which appears to be doubtful at this moment in time. Personally i think you'd need to take all but one of the names off your list. I'd say you'd be lucky to get £22M from the sales you've given and about £60M to buy your list of players.
Not gonna happen any time soon me thinks!
Bob the Red
17 Feb 2011 11:51:46
I have it got authority that this will be the team tonight to face Sparta Prague.
(4-2-3-1)
Reina
Kelly
Johnson
Skrtel
Carragher
Lucas
Aurelio
Kuyt
Rodriguez
Meireles
N'Gog
Please post in rumours Ed. And What do you think to the team?
{Editor's Note: I never comment on teams.}
17 Feb 2011 11:54:38
Kopsouce on Twitter is claiming tom hicks has won his case to sue RBS and LFC and is seeking billions. What does this mean.for the future of Lpool ed? {ed's note - just means he can try and sue, it might just be an expensive court case that he has to pay for. It will take months and months, maybe even years, before any verdict is reached anyway.}
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i thought it wasnt against lfc ed isn't it against rbs and broughton can you clarify please ed?
tazz YNWA
{Editor's Note: H&G have agreement of the courts for claims to be made against (a) RBS, (b) Broughton, (c) Purslow, (d) Ayres. Broughton, Purslow and Ayres lost their cases for protection from being liable financially for any of the matters related to the sale of the club and therefore from any claim from the previous owners. Finally, NESV have protection from being subject to any claim, but have been allowed to join a case being bought by Broughton against Hicks and Gillett. In the first instance, H&G may well have a very good claim against RBS. I would expect the claims and counter claims between all of the other parties will be dropped on a knock-for-knock basis.
But, critically, there is no claim against the club or for which the club could end up paying out any money - and there will not be.}
17 Feb 2011 11:30:01
Kopsouce on Twitter is claiming tom hicks has won his case to sue RBS and LFC and is seeking billions. What does this mean.for the future of Lpool ed? {ed's note - just means he can try and sue, it might just be an expensive court case that he has to pay for. It will take months and months, maybe even years, before any verdict is reached anyway.}
17 Feb 2011 10:10:20
@MarkoLFC
Great post - I'd have to agree with everything you've said.
Hazard is a pretty remote option for us - he's likely to go to Arsenal from what I understand and it's probably the best place for him. He's a very talented player, but I don't see him at Anfield and I don't think he'd be too keen to come (especially if Lille make the CL - which they're very likely to - and we're only in the EL). I do think his team-mate Gervinho is someone that would improve our team, though. I think he'd slot in perfectly and the links with him have been consistent over the past few months.
I'd love to think we'd sign Richards as I've always rated him. I'm not sure how far we'd stretch to get him - if City rejected 20M, how much would it take to convince them to sell?. At that price, I wouldn't be surprised if we looked elsewhere, Cahill perhaps?
I'm still hopeful that we'll sign Adam, too. I think he's another that would slot into our first team and complement the other midfielders very well. He's very obviously a player that Kenny rates highly, so I'd be very surprised if we didn't make another bid at the end of the season.
I do think that a move for Enrique is most likely for the LB position. Coentrao is going to be ridiculously expensive and there'll be plenty of people chasing his signature. Enrique could certainly do a job for us and I could well imagine a swap for Joe Cole being likely (would we have to pay anything to Cole if he left at the end of the season, Ed? - I'd heard that, had he left in January, we'd have had to stump up a lot of money to him).
Parma Violet
{Editor's Note: Cole's signing on fee was spread over the length of his contract and there will provisions in his contract for that to be repaid if he were to leave. The same will be true in the summer, just that the amount will be less. And so on in future windows.}
17 Feb 2011 09:30:47
Re:
17 Feb 2011 01:49:38
Liverpool to sign 3 big black lads; Lukaku, Gervinho and Cissokho
Great if it's true but what is the relevance of their skin colour? I don't remember anyone announcing the signing of two white strikers on deadline day.
17 Feb 2011 07:15:49
Reading various reports. Linking us with Gervinho, Brazilian Ivory Coast player, 23 years old, striker/ left side attack midfielder.
I have not seen him at club level yet, but in his international appearances in world cup he was used as a sub. When hen came on he had pace, skill and just kept running at the defences causing mayhem!
I like his style as a player and think he would add a good attacking option for us.
£10 mil, buy him. What do fellow supporters think?
Bazzaa
17 Feb 2011 01:49:38
Liverpool to sign 3 big black lads; Lukaku, Gervinho and Cissokho
17 Feb 2011 00:44:09
Hi ed, what do you recon. .
chances are of signing kjear and Christian Eriksen, certainly young and tallented enough, and i know others will be looking, but it would seem a lot of players are realising that liverpool is definately on the up. And has a huge standing in denmark ect.
j496 YNWA
jasonlfc {ed's note - I have heard nothing of an interest in Kjaer but we have been scouting Erikssen for a while. I think we are likely to sign him, but I don't think it will be this year.}
17 Feb 2011 00:32:28
23yr old Gervinho will probably sign in the summer. Price about 14m, better goal and assist ratio per game than hazard (2:1), stronger, alot cheaper and plays right wing forward. 17yr old Conor Wickham, 21yr old Simon Kjaer will be brought in for about 10m as a future partner for compatriot Agger. 24yr old Marveaux and 22 yrd old Fabio Coentrao will be brought in to provide width on the left as both can play as wing backs or left midfield. Finally 25 yrd old Charlie Adam will sign for an undisclosed fee. All other potentials (Marin, Honda, Sanchez, Turan, Hazard, Llorente, Rossi, Young, Cahill, Benzema, Augero, Navas, Sahin, Griezmann, Dzagoev, Ox-Chamberlain, M'villa, Payet, Matuidi, Taiwo, Hoarau, Muller etc) are more lilkey to sign for other clubs based on various factors including Champions League (or lack of in our case). To summarise my latest calculated assumptions are the following:
In will be
Kjaer
Coentrao
Marveaux
Adam
Gervinho
Wickham
Out
Soto
Ngog
Jovanovic
Konchesky
Aquliani
Insua
El Zar
Degen
16 Feb 2011 23:40:54
Ed can you give us info on who Damien Comoli was trying to get in January and the players that we nearly got. Thanks a lot, As i said many a time Great Site keep up good work
OldfieldLFC {ed's note - there are the known ones, Richards, Young, Marveaux, Adam, Gomez and there were a lot of others chased, it was hectic and I am still trying to figure out which ones were real bids and which were just people assuming other than those. One ex-player swears we spoke to Gala about Turan but just ran out of time and that is why he didn't join Atletico.}