Liverpool Rumours Archive February 01 2016

 

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01 Feb 2016 22:48:19
Klopps decision not to go to £38m on Texieria. that's why lfc walked away.

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01 Feb 2016 23:09:55
Or that the price was even more than that.

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{Ed002's Note - It was never going to happen - move on.}

01 Feb 2016 23:36:55
I'm glad we didn't make a panic buy and didn't go over the top, I'd like to hope we negotiate to bring Teixeira in at the end of the season.

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02 Feb 2016 02:49:49
May come back to haunt liverpool just like Dele Ali and Willian.

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02 Feb 2016 06:43:57
Or Carrol?

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02 Feb 2016 07:48:02
Sorry but how has Willian 'come back to haunt us' (lets ignore the fact that we matched the offer and he chose elsewhere)?

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02 Feb 2016 08:27:17
Those don't haunt me at all. disappointed at Dele maybe, but we can't spend our life worrying about every player that doesn't come to Liverpool.

As for the summer, would have liked to see Teixera but as Ed's warned it was unlikely and I'm glad we didn't then panic spend on a squad player like Shane Long or Cheryshev.

At the end of the day we have a solid team, a few players returning from injury soon, and some financial firepower left for the summer once Klopp's had some time to really get to grips with where the gaps need to be filled.

It'll also hopefully be clearer by then if Sturridge can return, if Benteke can adapt, if Can can kick on, if Migs still needs replacing etc.

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02 Feb 2016 13:33:59
What's wrong with some of us fans? We are talking £40m plus wages and fees to bring it up to double probably. Look at how well some of our own resevre squad can do when given the chance.

Next season Klopp should have access to Gomez at CB, remember how good he looked, under Bodgers? Ings, started to settle score goals, he is quick clever and works his socks off and finally Markovic. When played properly he looked like he could do it, now under Klopp who knows how good he could become?

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02 Feb 2016 17:03:27
Too much money in my opinion being asked, if he's that good and wants to play for lfc like he says in his video he'll be there in summer.

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01 Feb 2016 21:17:43
A few reports saying we will go back for tex in the summer. However eds, I believe one of you said our first choice was long, albeit on loan, would we be tempted to go for him again in the summer?
Personally I hope it was just to cover until Ings is back and a long term decision on Sturridge made?

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{Ed001's Note - Long was just a stop gap, first choice only in the respect of a now signing.}

01 Feb 2016 21:35:08
Thanks ed, a trier but nothing special, relieved if I'm honest!

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01 Feb 2016 21:52:48
The decision is down to Sturridge.

The lad needs some time away from football.

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01 Feb 2016 22:33:55
Also do you think we will go back and try for teixeira? A lot depends on the next half of his season for me, show what kind of character he has.

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{Ed002's Note - It makes no sense.}

01 Feb 2016 22:35:13
He's after been away for about 12months how much longer do you want to give him.

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01 Feb 2016 22:47:33
Be great to see a fully fit Danny Ings back in the side next season.

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01 Feb 2016 22:57:36
I could not agree more, can't wait to see Danny back in the lineup.

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01 Feb 2016 23:50:55
What makes no sense Ed?

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{Ed002's Note - Making another laughable offer for Teixeira. Time to move on.}

02 Feb 2016 01:07:34
I'm sure we will move on. But, do you want him at Chelsea?

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02 Feb 2016 17:05:28
Lets not expect too much from ings that was a very bad injury the lad had so give him a bit of time.

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02 Feb 2016 16:44:35
ED 002, it wasn't a laughable offer, it was a substantial offer. It's a laughable valuation.

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{Ed002's Note - I am sorry but clubs putting in derisory offers are simply laughed away. Try not to deflect responsibility for this.}

02 Feb 2016 19:09:16
I think Jurgen klopp will love Danny ings. Because he will chase any ball down and he gets goals .

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02 Feb 2016 22:08:24
The bids we make are laughable! If we don't value the player at what his club does and make a pathetic offer which everyone knows won't be accepted don't bother. We have seen it time and again, either put up or shut up.

All the best.

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03 Feb 2016 08:55:02
Sorry but I have to agree with the view that we're making bids we can afford and that are realistic. If we'd gone with the huge money they wanted people would be queuing up to slate everyone at the club for overpaying. They can't win. Hopefully lessons learned from overspending on the likes of Lovren and Llallana (neither worth what we paid and we'd not see that money again if we sold them) . About time we bid realistically. The annoying one would be Alli, partly because he wasn't expensive and mainly because our main rival for the last Euro place is Spurs and they're getting a lot of very good players these days. As things stand Loris, Ericsson, Dier, Alli and Kane would walk into our side. Probably some of the others as well. The good news though is that watching the younger lads play games on challenging pitch at Exeter, pressure game against them at Anfield and then against a relatively strong West Ham side shows there is a future from within without spending a fortune. Just centre back and consistently fit goal scorer seem the issue.

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01 Feb 2016 20:44:47
Are we still expecting a couple of outgoing eds? Was one of them meant to be Enrique?

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{Ed001's Note - yes and yes.}

03 Feb 2016 08:55:34
Considering the report was his move fell through because of his wages can we expect him to run out his contract with us now?

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{Ed001's Note - seems that way.}

01 Feb 2016 13:15:06
Ed002 do you know if lfc are trying to sign icardi or any other striker today? thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - Not as far as I am aware.}

01 Feb 2016 19:57:51
More chance of bicardi 😁.

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01 Feb 2016 21:18:35
Domenico berardi?

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01 Feb 2016 13:15:06
Ed002 do you know if lfc are trying to sign icardi or any other striker today? thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - Not as far as I am aware.}

01 Feb 2016 15:55:18
Enrique back to Newcastle rumours floating about.

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01 Feb 2016 16:13:13
I hope so, that would be the deal, of the window for me.

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01 Feb 2016 16:34:33
More rumours from the same sources saying Newcastle are no longer interested, seems they had a reality check 😂.

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01 Feb 2016 17:55:28
Think the Enrique to Newcastle deal is dead in the water.
Apparently he wanted a longer contract than they were prepared to offer.
So. looks like we're stuck with him til summer!

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01 Feb 2016 18:11:56
He's barely played, if it was a contract length issue then there's nothing we can do. Maybe if it was wages, we could pay a small percentage like Adebayor style, would be better for us to pay say £20,000 a week for a player from another side than his entire wages and never play him right?

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01 Feb 2016 19:43:31
The deal fell through to a rubbish WIFI connection in the changing rooms.
Heard this from the dog on the corner of our street.

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01 Feb 2016 15:39:30
Seen a post on here about Allen and just want to 2nd that. the lad has been playing well and again playing in a position he excels at.

Eds I have also heard that we have enquired about Gotze of Bayern, can't see anything happening in this window but just wondering if anyone heard or this.

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01 Feb 2016 12:31:34
Are the rumours true that Liverpool are stopping Sinclair moving to Watford because they want to use him as a makeweight in other deals? If true do you know what deals?

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01 Feb 2016 13:08:41
I can't see a non English team taking him imo.

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{Ed002's Note - He has turned down an offer from Spain. I am not sure what deals the original poster expect Liverpool to be using Sinclair in today.}

01 Feb 2016 13:54:43
Yeah, shaktar want 50 mil for teix but will halve that request if we throw in the highly sought after Sinclair.

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01 Feb 2016 13:26:18
Ed002, he got it from a Times journalist on Twitter. Makes no sense to me as he's out of contract in the summer.

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01 Feb 2016 13:44:58
Ed002, its just twitter nonsense from Sami Mokbel from the Daily Mail. Personally I expect today to be a quiet deadline day and Jim White to get the hump about it.

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01 Feb 2016 13:26:18
Ed002, he got it from a Times journalist on Twitter. Makes no sense to me as he's out of contract in the summer.

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01 Feb 2016 13:44:58
Ed002, its just twitter nonsense from Sami Mokbel from the Daily Mail. Personally I expect today to be a quiet deadline day and Jim White to get the hump about it.

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01 Feb 2016 18:02:47
its crap. as far as i'm aware Sinclair is contracted till the end of this season meaning that while he has been able to talk to, and sign a pre-contract with foreign teams since Jan 1st he is not allowed to talk to, or sign a pre contract with english based teams until some point in May. Ed's please correct me if i'm wrong.

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{Ed023's Note - I think it's June but yes you are correct in what you're saying}

01 Feb 2016 18:09:37
Cheers Ed23. wasn't sure if it was one or two months before the end of his contract.

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{Ed023's Note - You're welcome}

03 Feb 2016 08:57:39
Is there a reason we're not selling while can make something rather than letting him run down contract - would we be in for more in compensation if he left on a "free"?

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{Ed001's Note - possibly.}

03 Feb 2016 09:02:57
Thanks Ed, possible lesson learned from our problems with Ings fee then?

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{Ed001's Note - I would assume so.}

01 Feb 2016 12:23:42
Hey eds.
Have we inquired for icardi's services?
Any chance?
Thanks.

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{Ed001's Note - I don't know sorry. I know he wanted to speak with Mancini over his future in the week. That is all I know, but I don't believe they are open to selling him anyway, not sure they would consider a loan either.}

01 Feb 2016 12:35:43
Ed, what is your opinion on him? Haven't seen him play on many occasions, but I liked what I saw. You think this would be a good move?

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{Ed001's Note - I have only seen him play a few times, not a big fan of Italian football. Watched the Milan derby from last night earlier and it is difficult to judge anyone playing for Inter anyway, the system Mancini is using stifles everyone.}

01 Feb 2016 12:41:03
Nothing in it ed002 is there mate?

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{Ed002's Note - They would be open to selling Icardi as I have explained over and over.}

01 Feb 2016 12:57:39
Thanks for reply :)

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01 Feb 2016 13:26:16
Cheers ed, i no you have explained that mate. I just didn't no if we had enquired about him.

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01 Feb 2016 13:26:16
Cheers ed, i no you have explained that mate. I just didn't no if we had enquired about him.

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01 Feb 2016 11:23:06
according to Sport Mediaset in Italy Liverpool have offered 19m for Icardi in the last hour.

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01 Feb 2016 11:26:06
I can't see that being the case. Good player but can't see us getting him for that price if we are interested.

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01 Feb 2016 11:37:10
Now THAT would be a real coup.

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01 Feb 2016 11:40:05
Inter did not sell him for a much higher fee to Chelsea in the summer, Y would they sell him now?

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{Ed001's Note - he was first choice and happy then. Now he is on the bench and unhappy. Still don't see any chance of it happening, not with Mancini's job being so precarious.}

01 Feb 2016 11:52:58
We could throw Balotelli in with the deal, Mancini would be up for that 😄.

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01 Feb 2016 12:33:04
Surely that would mean paying them to take him Ron ;)

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03 Feb 2016 08:59:09
Any truth in the rumour that the Icardi deal didn't progress because was left too late for them to sort out filling the gap he'd leave?

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31 Jan 2016 22:21:37
ED002, can I ask a question that may seem odd even conspiracy theory like?

I am not for one minute saying this to be the case or have any info on this whatsoever but can I ask a bit about the teixeira offer? I seen on earlier posts that you said the owner of shakhtar kept on putting the price up when Chelsea came calling about teixeira so subsequently a deal was not concluded. Did lfc know all about the ongoings between the 2 clubs? I only ask this as I have a little theory (I have had a few scoops tonight so i will deny all tomorrow) it seems pointless lfc entering negotiations or any talks with shakhtar if they knew how awkward they were to strike a deal with, that is unless we did know and had no intention of getting teixeira but looked good to the fans craving a big money signing? All bollocks and I know this wouldn't be the case but been sitting bored for last hour.

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool would have known that there was a certain futility in making a very low offer and never really increasing it. Shakhtar has done nothing but said the player will be sold in the summer - they have known for months that he wanted to leave this year. If they had read these pages they would have known what happened with Chelsea and the increasing price - I have made no secret of it. There is no conspracy and people should not forget that the club is in a precarious position financially. Perhaps the offer was all they can risk.}

01 Feb 2016 09:25:30
cheers for your reply ED002 as always is most appreciated. I won't try and ask if we interested or sign anyone today. try enjoy your day guys you ALL do a top job. 😆.

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{Ed002's Note - I would not expect too much to happen with LFC today - hopefully no knee jerk buys. I could see one leaving and a loan or two outbound perhaps. Have a good day.}

01 Feb 2016 09:41:35
Ed, can you explain what you mean by "precarious position financially"? - Have we NO money, have we been bought by chancers? ( yet again) According to statistics prodcued, we are around the 8th richest club in Europe, so god help the rest if we are skint. Keep up the good work!

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{Ed002's Note - I have explained the financial position on many occasions. I have no idea what you mean by "richest".}

01 Feb 2016 10:57:05
They are not chancers IMO
They have invested lots in transfers plus associated fees
They are funding the ground upgrade.

Give them a break. I think the precarious position is because the club is borrowing money against future income and losing money weekly.
We have to get the wage bill under control, we have to get the squad number under control and we have to optimise income from sponsorship, gate receipts/ corporate and all that requires a successful team.

I think they need to rein in the spending, generate money from sales and utilise the reserves more. We need to hold our nerve and not throw more good money after bad.
The modern day fan has grown up with 5-6 in-coming transfers a season. They must change their perspective and realise this is not sustainable and complete folly. You win things with consistency, you don't become consistent by having a revolving transfer door. That just makes you poor.
All opinion.

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01 Feb 2016 11:24:03
I am not surprised Liverpool are in a precarious financial position.

Having had a manager who spent fortunes on donkeys and loan-outs.

However there are some good buys and money from good sales.

I got grief because I called Benteke a donkey. Which was unfair on my part. Expensive mis-fit would have been a better description.

The walking wounded list is unfortunate.

Liverpool have agreed personal terms with Alex Texeira, he wants to come. Shaktar are digging their heels in. Why keep a player that doesn't want to play for you?

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{Ed001's Note - because they will sell him in the summer and want him until then.}

01 Feb 2016 11:36:56
Do we have a good chance of him in the summer then ed? Its a long way off i no. Will we have to start from scratch with him again?

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{Ed001's Note - depends on whether we still want him then or not really.}

01 Feb 2016 10:35:15
Ed can you say who might leave us and who the loan might be please? Youngsters?

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{Ed002's Note - Sinclair - and the sqaud is too large so a couple of loans would not be a surprise.}

01 Feb 2016 19:02:57
Ed002 I've had no offers nor made any bids.

All the best.

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01 Feb 2016 20:44:17
Just thought I'd mention this 'precarious financial position', ED2 mentioned. It's not actually precarious in the slightest. We have an interest free loan from the owners, but it's not the size of Bolton - the commercial team will manage to sell some form of rights on the new stand - of that, I am positive.

Outside of our interest free loans (which are exactly what Chelsea and Manchester City had before they were written off), we're in a solid financial position, based on reasonable accounting of outgoing vs incoming transfers and the length of contracts offered to new and current squad members.

For example, Migs new contract was likely offered to allow for a longer accounting of the original fee paid. Allen isn't on for a new contract for two reasons. A) there is only £4.5m remaining of his transfer fee to be allocated in accounts - his value is currently low. To increase and preserve that, Liverpool would look to sign a new deal with him. However, I still see him being sold in the summer.

I'm still predicting a small profit (around £10m) in the next financial reports, prior to the influx of overseas rights money. I may be wrong in my predictions (I wasn't last time), but I wouldn't call that precarious, by any means.

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{Ed001's Note - how much of a debt do you think Bolton have? Bearing in mind their owner just wrote off some of it. I don't think you quite understand the issue is not debt with Bolton at all. It is not having the cash flow to keep up with payments such as tax. Profits or otherwise are not really relevant, the accounts can be messed around with very easily to make a business look profitable if need be. The issue is that underneath it, the spending outstrips the income.}

31 Jan 2016 18:56:00
Hi Eds
Is it true that Sinclair refused to play for the 21s today. I find this a bit odd as surely he played (briefly) for the first team yesterday. I know he is being linked with Watford but surely Adie Ward wouldn't do something that daft again?

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{Ed001's Note - I haven't heard sorry, but it is a tactic Ward would look to use if necessary to force a move. Ward only cares about his bank balance and Sinclair joined him to make money.}

01 Feb 2016 04:19:06
i think those guys who called sinclair ingrate and aidy ward as evil agent will need to wake up their idea. the world revolves around $. What sterling and now sinclair doing is a norm rather exception. Liverpool managment will need to come up with a sustainable plan to retain these young talents, if not might as well scrap the academy.

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{Ed001's Note - you really have no idea, neither of those came through our academy, so what on earth has losing two pricks got to do with scrapping it? Ward is a piece of dog turd, the world may revolve around $ but these players are already wealthy and what they revolve around is greed, not $.}

01 Feb 2016 07:28:27
Here here!

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01 Feb 2016 07:54:30
Why would we want to retain a young talent like Sinclair?
He has zero humility and zero loyalty.
It's happened to plenty of players who think they're the dog's and end up as failures. Don't know why he thinks he'd get into any other Premier League club's 1st 11. Get rid of him asap, I don't even want to see him play for us anymore. And Brooks Lennon scored again, so happy days.

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01 Feb 2016 08:48:51
Yeah I never got all this hype with Sinclair. Jack Dunn for me is far better but he seems to have disappeared.

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01 Feb 2016 09:05:06
Anyone represented by Ward should not be touched by LFC. Contrary to Ward and Gordon Gecko GREED is NOT GOOD!

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01 Feb 2016 09:41:46
Jack Dunn has had long term injury problems, but he came off the bench yesterday against Reading.

Today, Liverpool are going to swap Sinclair and Benteke for Deeney and Ighalo. Unfortunately for Liverpool, this will be happening in my imagination.

(mmm, oh yeah, that's nice, we're going to win the league now)

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01 Feb 2016 11:02:32
Aidy Ward is not evil as far as I can tell, but he is greedy. It's probably a useful trait for a football agent 😄.
However, he seems to lack any ethics, there seems to be no low he won't stoop to to achieve his aims and he is happy to use young impressionable players to do his dirty work.
Fortunately he seems to be one of few. Karma will bite him one day.

As for Sinclair, I feel sorry for him, he is being misled and will develop a bad reputation which is hard to shake off.

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01 Feb 2016 11:14:42
Aidy ward is no different than any other agent i know.

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01 Feb 2016 11:16:03
If he has refused then I hope the club fines him within the code of the conduct at the club. I think it would then be fair to make him train with the youth team and exclude him from u21 and first team training.

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01 Feb 2016 11:26:23
which other agents do you "know" smithy?

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01 Feb 2016 11:28:42
Smithy - you know a lot of agents who go on TV and say their client would refuse a contract offer of 900k/ week do you?

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01 Feb 2016 11:42:05
zeddicus: quite a few, including aidy. If aidy ward was doing what he does (what every other agent does) to get player to liverpool. liverpool fans wouldn't have a bad word to say about him.

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{Ed001's Note - well that's a lie, as I would not be happy and would say so. And Ward is not like every other agent at all.}

01 Feb 2016 11:51:03
Ron:He thought it was off the record when he made them quotes.

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{Ed001's Note - no he did not, he knew what the score was and played on it.}

01 Feb 2016 11:55:04
With our shortage of strikers it would have been ideal for Sinclair to burst on the scene but he was busy bitching. Not even Sterling was that greedy.

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01 Feb 2016 11:55:17
Yeah that is nonsense Smithy, he won't ever change his MO so if you sign one of his players then you're just the next club he will try to humiliate.

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01 Feb 2016 12:16:10
That your opinion ed! you can say that ed but if anyone is honest they know i'm right. Alex teixeira just made a video declaring his love for liverpool, i don't see any liverpool fans slating his agent! . If that was a liverpool player we all know what would be happening.

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{Ed001's Note - actually it was nothing to do with his agent, it was a local TV company that shoved the mic under his nose after a match in the US. That was the player. So I really do not see the relevance between this and Sterling. Though you would find if you bothered to listen to the podcast we do that I stated quite clearly I was not comfortable with it and would not be happy if he was one of our players and that it would make me look elsewhere.}

01 Feb 2016 12:28:12
Ed001 most supporters don't know that. you might not be comfortable with it, but most fans don't care.

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{Ed001's Note - you said all, backtrack all you like but you were wrong.}

01 Feb 2016 12:28:39
We're never going to agree on this Smithy, but next time you see him be sure to let him know we all think he's a devious, conniving rat and to enjoy it whilst he can because Karma is going to really sting. 😉.

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01 Feb 2016 12:58:09
nearly all then ed 😜. he ain't that bad ron, just wants the best deal for his clients.

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01 Feb 2016 13:03:48
Whats the footballing world thoughts on aidy ward ed? Its quite clear on here what we think of him on, but do other clubs/ owners/ managers share the same view as us?
Cheers.

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{Ed001's Note - I really couldn't speak for all of them, but West Brom made Berahino dump him as an agent, which speaks volumes.}

01 Feb 2016 13:55:49
In an ideal business world, I'd say those involved should conduct themselves like gentlemen and play by the rules. But the reality is really quite far from this. I dislike Ward and Sterling as much as any other LFC fan, but I also admit that I'm not really that surprised by it. It's the big money business world. Their one error was to be so vocal about their strategies and tactics, which won them so much praise and adulation (sarcastic snicker) . If they'd kept everything only on the negotiating table and behind closed doors (as is done 98% of the time), I think our perceptions would be slightly different. In hindsight, I don't think Suarez's (and his agent's) strategies and tactics were much different but we just don't know about it, because it probably all happened behind closed doors. I'm simply a fan and not directly involved in football dealings in any way. But I know the ruthlessness in big money business, and prisoners are rarely taken.

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01 Feb 2016 15:00:48
That's great news Jurgen ta for the update.

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01 Feb 2016 00:14:59
More and more sources reporting a move for cheryshev hopfuly its paper talk because it looks like a panic buy to me if its real.

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01 Feb 2016 08:57:39
The articles I've read have suggested it might be a loan.

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