Liverpool Rumours Archive July 24 2015

 

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24 Jul 2015 16:50:51
Hi eds ! what's the latest on pedro ?

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{Ed002's Note - There is interest from a couple of clubs - I am not aware of any interest from LFC right now.}

23 Jul 2015 23:48:29
Eds, why does sakho want out? has he not been guarenteed game time, does he feel unsettled, is it BR? I just don't know why he would as he seems so happy

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{Ed002's Note - He was messed around a lot last year and was unhappy in January such that his agent was looking at options then. I guess he is still unhappy.}

24 Jul 2015 09:35:14
I'm not sure it coming to anything as I doubt we will get any offers deemed acceptable.

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24 Jul 2015 09:36:38
Ed002
Would that Matuidi swap deal still be on the cards?

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{Ed002's Note - Not any longer.}

24 Jul 2015 09:38:50
Ooohhh crap. My worst fear realized. :(

If he's sold do you think a replacement will be signed Ed?
I shudder at the thought of going into the season with Lovren & Skerts as 1st choice.

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{Ed002's Note - No, Liverpool are over run with centre backs.}

24 Jul 2015 10:03:10
Pitty none of them are any good. There are under 16 teams that defend more soundly than we do!

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24 Jul 2015 10:08:04
Yep overrun with shaky centre backs though. I just don't get it, reportedly Rodgers likes CBs who are comfortable on the ball but I've never seen any evidence of this preference. The two that we have who actually show composure have been treated terribly. Ilori-Sakho should be 1st choice, not Skrtel-Lovren. Ah well, I guess we'll just have to get used to winning 3-2 & 4-3 again.

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24 Jul 2015 10:41:00
But he's meant to be in contract talks that's what has been reported. So that doesn't make sense why would he want a contract if he wants to leave Ed I don't get it.

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{Ed002's Note - I have no iodea what has been reported but if Liverpool over-price him like they have with other players they have looked to sell he won't be going anywhere.}

24 Jul 2015 11:22:03
When you say he has been messed around ed, is that mainly him being promised first team football and not getting it? Thanks

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{Ed002's Note - IU am not opening all of that up again. Use the search engine.}

24 Jul 2015 11:44:23
maybe something can be done in a deal for Digne

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{Ed002's Note - It is not PSG who are interested nor who his agent has been talking to.}

24 Jul 2015 12:11:17
The centre backs aren't 'shaky' (apart from Skittles - one of the worst so-called defenders ever to have graced Liverpool), the problem is they're playing in a Brendan Rodgers' team and he has absolutely no idea what he's doing

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24 Jul 2015 12:25:43
But he's definitely asked to move though he seems happy enough and don't know why he wouldn't be first choice as he's better than lovren. Do you know if he's negotiating a new deal right now are?

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{Ed002's Note - He is on tour at the moment.}

24 Jul 2015 12:34:36
So you don't know if there are plans to negotiate a new deal Ed?

Sorry to keep asking but you're very vague lol

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{Ed002's Note - He has asked to leave - how hard is that to understand. Liverpool can say no or they can say yes.}

24 Jul 2015 14:20:27
Brenda is betting his Liverpool career on Lovren and Skrtel. You have to admire his courage, at the very least.

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24 Jul 2015 17:12:56
If we are talking about pure defending then Skrtel may well be the better of the three, but because Tango man insists on playing a system that doesn't suit any of the players at his disposal (Centre backs that is) they all look completely inept.

What I can't fathom is - Rodgers wants the team to play out from the back, yet he buys a keeper who is absolutely hopeless in his distribution especially in terms of passing/kicking. He has now entered his fourth season and has yet to purchase (or develop) a Centre back who can play (comfortably) in his system, so do you adapt a system that suits your current personnel or do you persist and continue with that system that contributes to abject defending . Illori (and or Gomez), would arguably/possibly be the one Centre back at the club who could play the ball out from the back, but the boy has been in limbo since signing.

Lovren doesn't want to be made a scapegoat, Mark Lawrenson believes he will "come good", but again today against average opposition he looked very substandard when called upon to defend, personally I just don't know if he will ever fit into our team.

Further, and again you have to question Rodgers in terms of defence and defending . Clyne and Gomez look decent acquisitions (friendlies only), but why does he persist on buying fullbacks who are better going forward than they are at defending . if your Centre backs are suspect why not buy Defenders who, defend first and attack second? ah Tango man when will you finally be Tangoed?

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24 Jul 2015 18:57:24
We sold our best ball playing centre back in DAgger!!! That was a HUGE mistake but for some reason BR didn't see a future for him at the club

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24 Jul 2015 21:13:31
When will you all wake up and remember that most of the signings we make aren't actually Rodgers choice, so show your manager some support because your all giving up and the season hasn't event started yet.
You MUST give Rodgers a chance to prove himself this season, we all know it is a massive season for this football club and for Brendan; you forget that he took us to a title challenge wayyyy ahead of schedule (with a little help from Luis), so show your manager some respect and be patient, otherwise its going to be a very long season

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24 Jul 2015 23:43:40
Spot on OJ. Some are never happy!! The season ahead is so exciting with these signings. I think we have done very well in our business and BR knew what players he wanted early and went out and got them. The owners have backed him financially so the pressure is on him. He needs to deliver and I for one think he's got it in him to get our team challenging at the top again. Let's all have faith in the man and concentrate on the positives for once!! YNWA

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24 Jul 2015 22:30:28
not as unhappy as me. hasn't worked out has it? otherwise he would of been first name on the team sheet. not as good as he thinks he is

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25 Jul 2015 01:42:33
Never felt the need to post/reply before but Sakho has absolutely no composure on the ball whatsoever. I shudder every time I see a team sheet with his name on! Defensively we are poor and yet apart from Clyne, we haven't improved this area

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25 Jul 2015 12:45:39
OJ, how many chances do you think he would have gotten at another big club after three years without a trophy and almost half a billion spent on a squad he has built yet still doesn't know? Sick and tired of people making excuses for his failures. Players that don't pan out are never his choice but those who do are, right? Nonsense! You sound a lot like BR as in, never taking responsibility for anything. Guess what, bro? Your boy will have no more excuses to make and nowhere to hide if he screws up this season. He will be sacked for sure and none of your flimsy excuses will hold up because frankly, they never have.guru is spot on in his analysis. BR still has no idea what he's doing defensively. He wants cbs who can play out the back yet thinks Skrtel who can't do that to save his life, is our best CB . How does that even add up?

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25 Jul 2015 12:48:12
Noz, that may be your opinion but I suggest u go watch him play again and see that he ALWAYS looks to pass the ball and only gets caught out whe he is double teamed or if the mids aren't showing quick enuff. Go watch him closely. Oh and if you think Skrtel and Lovren are better, then you have no idea what you're watching nor talking about.

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25 Jul 2015 13:07:23
I'm not sure why people are saying sakho is our best CB. He is second best. When it come to defending, composure on the ball, passing, heading,blocking,consistency,and even scoring goals, Skrtel is obviously our best CB. Sakho should partner him please not Lovren!

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24 Jul 2015 08:21:14
Sakho close to 5 year deal

We are interested in Digne

We're interested in a DM but that depends on Lucas leaving.

Roma want Moreno, we will only sell for asking price and if we have Digne

Sirigu of PSG is being considered for January

Borini wants Italy, his Mrs wants London.

Swansea want Allen. He isn't keen, plus we want 15 million.

We tried to get Turan on loan. My mind boggles at that.

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24 Jul 2015 09:05:30
Roma's search for left-backs has now narrowed to Baba, Adriano & Masuaku. At a guess I'd say Adriano is most likely since Baba would cost the same as the other two combined. Chelsea may or may not decide to meet Augsburg's demands.

Moreno is not good value at the price Liverpool have put on him. Personally, I would love to see Digne & Moreno both competing for the LB spot with Gomez getting a Prem loan. However, if it's not to be then Gomez stays and I'd be fine with that also.

We tried and failed to get Turan? That's a relief.

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24 Jul 2015 10:05:43
We only have 1 left back on the books. Gomez is a right back/centre back being tried out at left back. He hastn played there against any decent opposition. If we signed Digne it would be instead of Enrique I would guess, he's not going to sell Moreno at that price now. He could be worth 20 mil plus to a Spanish team in a year or two.

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24 Jul 2015 10:15:26
Not seen digne play, but if he came in, surely must mean moreno leaves! Are these just hunches or do you have any sources?

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24 Jul 2015 12:04:16
My source is a bloke he did contracted work at LFC around 2010/11 under some kind of physio company. He keeps in touch with a guy who still works there in a health/fitness-related position.

I'm not saying Moreno is leaving, he most likely won't, but I do know that Roma have at least had interest in Moreno.

The reported Sakho deal did surprise me though.

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{Ed002's Note - Roma has made an offer for Digne.}

24 Jul 2015 12:55:03
Sean we have 2 left backs on the books Moreno and Enrique plus when we finished second in the league Flanagan played at left back for most of the season and looked very good. I know he may never reach that form again given his injury but personally I'd really like to see him back in the first team ASAP.

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24 Jul 2015 13:07:35
Rogers clearly doesn't fancy Enrique, not that you could blame him. Otherwise, he'd have gone on the pre-season tour. So he's definitely out of there probably on loan. That leaves us with Moreno, Gomez, and Flanno won't be back until after Xmas, and in what condition, nobody knows. So I would think a new LB preferably young or a solid back up would be a good idea. But i'm pretty sure the only deals we'll be doing is getting people out at this stage. The Pedro rumours are fantasy stuff!

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