Liverpool Rumours Archive May 28 2013

 

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28 May 2013 22:29:30
FSG are like the proverbial duck in water. On the surface, serene, but underneath they are paddling furiously.

They do NOT have the money to take LFC beyond where we are now. Behind the smiles and the confidence, Henry knows that he must get a big investor or two in, or we will remain as we are. The Anfield Regeneration projected cost is proving to be more expensive than they thought, and they are unwilling to take on a big debt, worried about fan reaction. The naming rights issue is going nowhere - they've spoken to Chinese, Arab and US investors, as well as an Eastern Euro Oligarch who they are privately very reluctant to follow up on because he has "human rights" issues (Amnesty have investigated this man). This last suitor was very, very interested. I've also heard that an Indian billionaire is looking at the club on an investment or outright purchase basis.

There IS an offer on the table from the Middle East, and it's been there since H&G owned the club. FSG are willing to sell the club, as a whole, but not for less than £600m. The offer is for £450m. However, FSG's latest financial woes may well persuade Henry to sell. And when I say they have financial trouble, I mean BIG worries. Apparently they had no idea just how much money they'd have to spend on LFC just to tread water.

Which leads me to Suarez and stadium issues. Suarez - Henry and FSG want BR to cash in now - so any bid IN EXCESS of £50m will be taken. BR is against this, and has told Tom Werner as much.

Also expect another "tide the fans over" update of stadium redevelopment plans over the next two months and more statements about being into LFC for the long haul. NOT the case I'm afraid. Henry is a genuine fan of the club and doesn;t want to let everyone down but FSG just cannot compete with the big bucks boys, and with his Investment Fund suffering, he's looking for a exit strategy.

Bad news/Good news - whatever - Insider Knowledge you can take or leave.

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Think most people will read it, take it for what it is - guesswork - and then laugh, and leave it.

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Can you be more specific about your comment. An offer from the MIddle East is not specific I would say. The Middle East is enormous. We need names of person (s).
Is it the Royal family of Qatar? Or some other sheik. ? Are they in talks at the oment or what. ? Be so kind and give us more specific information.

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Who's knows what the future will hold but can't help feeling nervous over the next coming months.

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All the basis of this info has been in the public domain for months.
This poster is just on the wind up, trying to cause division. Fleshing out the bones, as it were.
Just because we're not all happy with Kolo Toure, doesn't mean the world is about to end.
This one - I'll leave, thanks very much.
The Juicer

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Henry and FSG has owned the club 2 and half years and in the time, they've never been the sugar daddy/oil money model type.
Why after 2 and half years do you consider this news? This is non news. Pointless drivel.
FSG are going down the German type model since BR has took over. That's 3/4/5 year, long term building plan.
It's like you came from 2011 to give us this info lol
FSG mightn't have the oil money to just keep throwing at a bad situation, but their model is what I want as an LFC fan. 20+ years of short term plans. Resulted in only 2 credible title challenges in that time. I'm sick of it. If it takes 3/4/5 seasons to build slowly up so we're more competitive more consistently, then I'll be happy.
And it's not insider information. It's anti FSG fans who can't see the trees for the forest. We're closer to the Dortmund model, and they'd rather we were the City or Cheksea model.
30m their team coat and who was in the champions league final?
City, Chelsea, about 1 billion quids worth of teams? No thank you!

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Imagine waking up one morning next month to the news: Qatari royal family take over Liverpool FC and give Rodgers 170m transfer kitty.
We could buy Cavani, Eriksen, Papdopoulos, Coentrao and Bale in one swoop!

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The middle East are the Kuwaiti's

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Cheers mr Henry for the update didn't know you used this site bet the board are not going to be happy with you for letting all this out

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Ed002, I value your opinions very highly. Do you believe any of this to be true?

The real AG {Ed002's Note - The term "big investor" sort of gives it away for what it is. I have explained before that they are aware of the floatation valuation and they they are looking for commercial sponsors. I would stick with that right now.}

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28 May 2013 23:52:21
How wrong you can be! Since FSG have taken over LFC have constantly been one of the highest spenders in the transfer market. Priorities are important and I believe FSG believe the squad is currently more important than the ground.

Apart from the obvious FSG have internationally networked LFC in order to grow profits from markets we have never been involved in before.

50mil for Suarez may be acceptable as a good deal to the club but if they sold him it would not be to cash in on him nor for the need of money. It would e invested right back.

Yes Henry is a FAN, a good thing too, look at blackburn and their billion aire indian owner.

In short, never heard such crap. MUFC Supporter?

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Good story.
I'm sure there's a lot of truth in there and I sure as Hell don't trust Yank businessmen. Period.
However, i'm prepared to see how things pan out on a budget (I can't stand the thought of us being a Man Citteh or Chelski)!
OK. they've let us down on the new stadium.
OK. they've bumped up the cost of attending games to Opera prices.
OK. we can't attract "big names" due to a massive drop in profile.
OK. they're having second thoughts. oh, crap.
OK. they're completely skint.
OH HICK!
Maybe we should ring Wonga. ?!
ANFIELDPETE

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How can we take this seriously when you don't even leave a name

Rumba

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I agree with one of the posters above there are definately people who come on here with the sole aim to devide and disgruntle Liverpool fans

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This is rubbish

boston red sox are top of the league at the moment so they are doing well

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29 May 2013 03:09:55
This isn't a shock mate, henry made it clear with werner that, they didn't know how expensive is to run a club in England, and how important Champions league is for financial reasons, but now every plan, strategy has failed to bring champions league back,

1) The debts at club are getting bigger and bigger which is big worry for them as they never wanted to go this road but couldn't help or had no option.

2) A lot of our sponsors contracts are coming to an end including our main sponsors standard chartered, its getting harder and harder to attract new sponsors because lack of champions league etc,

3) the club value is dropping every year instead of improving or increasing, again its a big worry for them

4) Never had financial powers like city or chelsea but had a plan to get back champions league as soon as possible, it has backfired massively and financialy not helping but making things worst as champions league was main reason to start building our financial woes and start attracting new sponsors, increase revenues etc which again it has backfired.

5) Continuing losing/spending money with very little success/return, its taking its toll on owners and club and again impossible to deal with all problems without champions league money/revenue, at the sametime other hand problems/debts are growing faster then they actually thought.

6) The challange to manage Liverpool problems were bigger then they first thought and now its not helping them either, and are stuck with us and a lot of their money is already invested in a club which massively is underperforming.

Next few months are going to be interesting how well they can solve or paper the cracks atleast for time being to keep on progressing!

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Ten out of ten for creative fiction. I love this English literature rumours page

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I am sure FSG are doing their upmost in running the club, they saved us from going into admin and all we do is moan.

A. ) Perhaps We do have the financial muscle to compete, BUT its persuading players to come to a club without CL football.
B. ) Stadium news, these things take time, especially when there are other lives/families involved. Plus the red tape etc etc.
c. ) Investment in a time of recession is difficult to come across, is there any proof that there is Middle east interest? Also Indian billionaires will not throw there money around, they are as strewd as they come.

If we do go the same route as BVB I for one think that's a good idea. WE just need to be patient, good times will come again.

Lee73

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Why do r******* fans think that just because the owners are billionaires, they will turn into Sugardadies and give the clubs loads to spend. Deal, we will have lots more to spend but ultimately Rodgers knows value for money as be showed in January and simply won't spend 52M on Cavani because he is an elite star player. Look at Arsenal for example, tbh their owners are richer than ours, do they spend recklessly?. NO!. We need a very rich owner who is simply commited to releasing funds. What FSG are offering Rodgers is simply rubbish, if Dortmund are going to offer 21M for Eriksen, you think that will be the end of their shopping?, they will have more money to spend but their scouts and manager will search for value for money targets and not already established expensive stars. Long story short, being owned by billionaires doesn't mean we become a City yet. {Ed002's Note - There really was no chance of Eriksen moving to Liverpool. It is nothing to do with the owners.}

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What a ridiculous post. If we want the club to be healthy and competitive in the long term (I. E in the next 50 years, not five) FSG are the right people for the job.

They will make us self-sustaining for the long-term. If anyone wants to know how to run a club properly and efficiently, just look at Germany.

If people want a sugar daddy go support City or Chelsea who sack managers after they win the Premier League and European Cup respectively.

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Who is this guy?

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Regardless of long term plans our stadium is still not sorted or anywhere close to being so and FSG are continually dragging their feet over it. How can anyone take their long term commitment seriously when this vital aspect of our club is still not being addressed? Until the stadium issue (which is dragging on now) is sorted then our long term future remains in the balance.

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It would be nice if people had to sign in (and then they're sign off would automatically show up) in order to leave a comment. There seem to be a lot who put up "inside knowledge" remaining completely anonymous & most of them just seem to be stirring sh*t

Sean Ireland

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Beware of those inrent on cultivating worry, energy that blew up when kenny got the sack, we are our own enimy or at least we will be, if the majority keep this stupid agenda up thru next season, just leave these people to post till they burn out, Fsg want the best for Liverpool Fc. and that's a good starting point for me. DjNath 30 years a Red. ynwa

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Basically you're guessing. didn't fsg retufn red sox to the top on a similar budget

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Sorry for the copy and paste but these are apparently the words of john henry and apparently they don't have the sound of a proverbial duck in water.


Principal owner John Henry has explained that Liverpool FC, like each entity owned by Fenway Sports Group, “finance themselves”.


In an interview with Boston radio station WEEI FM last week, Henry discussed the finances of Fenway Sports Group and their operations.

Supporters of Boston Red Sox baseball team, who FSG have owned since 2002, have queried the finances of FSG, with the WEEI FM reporter wondering whether Liverpool are a “financial black hole that threatens to swallow the operating revenues of other FSG operations”. To which Henry categorically replied “Fenway Sports Group expansion has never and will never take place at the expense of the Boston Red Sox. ”

Speaking specifically about Liverpool, Henry hinted at the ownership groups desire to grow the commercial side of the club, writing that “At LFC we have only just begun there to build revenues. It has a global fan base and a global commercial appeal. ”

What FSG are not going to do though is pour millions upon millions into Liverpool, or any of their other ventures, in a similar manner as we have seen at clubs such as Man City and Chelsea in England and now in France with PSG and Monaco.

But any investment into LFC would not be at the loss of the Red Sox, and vice-versa. “We have cash flow from all of the other entities. There has not been a year in which FSG as a whole had an operating loss. And there hasn’t been a year in which we’ve paid a dividend. ”

The club are expected to make further announcements this summer with regards expanding Anfield and Henry explained that “renovations at Anfield will finance themselves”.

LFCPK {Ed002's Note - Some of this was actually said - but there is a whole bunch of conjecture that was not. Ignore this type of stuff or deal with what he said only.}

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28 May 2013 22:29:18
Keep reading about Papadopolous, is there any genuine interest from Liverpool?

I would also like to welcome Kolo Toure on board, he brings us the experience we lack - for free! YNWA

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Toure isn't back up. He will partner Agger

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28 May 2013 22:18:23
"Toure viewed as useful squad player, not as a replacement for Carra. Papadopoulos still #LFC's No 1 defensive target. " was said by james pearce, is james pearce reliable? and is the Liverpool echo reliable?

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Echo is genuine.

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Well James Pearce isn't Brendan Rodgers

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Yes it is.

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Yes he is usually and yes they are

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In my opinion they are reliable when it comes to LFC transfers

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Have to get the backup in first, under the impression they will get more than a few games, then go after the starter. If it was done in reverse, the backup would realize he was a true backup, and probably wouldn't sign.

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Yep, this likely the case. And Papadopoulos still top target, though signing is likely some time off yet. Ignore any mention of Williams, Pearce, De Vrij, Vermaelen, Chedjou, Ogbonna, Alderweireld and Martins Indi. And Digne for that matter, who will only join to be first choice. Zouma and Ilori possible as young squad players alongside Wisdom. Apparently Kelly will be getting a look in at CB this year.

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In matters relating to possible LFC transfers the Liverpool Echo is usually an impeccable source. There are very close links between the club and locally based journalists. Very seldom get these things wrong.

Andy Aintree.

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28 May 2013 22:05:30
James pearce echo feed.

"Kolo seem as useful squad player, papadpupolous lfc #1 target. "

Couldnt imagine him being brought in to be our first choice cb seems strange if that the case were we want to go. Gallas to spurs same example he not first choice.

Atsu, l digne, ilori, mkhitayran, aspas others on list!

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Toure on his wages will be first choice.
Defence will look like
RB Kelly
CB Toure
CB Agger
LB Johnson

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28 May 2013 21:51:26
Rodgers wants four more players following the signing of Toure.

He wants another centre half, believed to be Papadopoulos.

He also wants a new forward, with Aspas the rumoured target. Plus a new wideman who will spell the end of Assaidi's LFC career - Atsu from Porto.

He also wants a new midfielder, but it won't be Eriksen who's off to Dortmund, or Strootman who looks United-bound. keep an eye on Grenier from Lyon.

Other signings will depend on who leaves. Carroll is certain to be off. And once well sell Skrtel and Coates, we will go in for another defender; possibly Ilori.

Obviously if Reina is sold, a replacement will come in; probably either Begovic, Vorm or Mingolet.

Downing is available at the right price, and his replacement could be Cristian Tello, who's place in the team is now under question following Barcelona's acquisition of Neymar.

Another left back could also be in his thoughts (Lucas Digne)

Mozzer

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None of these, other than Papadopoulos would actually improve our starting 11. Jayo

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Throw in Diame and I think you have got the full set there.

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Can't see Tello leaving Barca. Neymar in, Villa out. It's that simple.

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I agree with the last poster, all players we have widely been linked to and people agree would b good additions. 4 players in seems about right to take us forward and skyrtl, shelvy, downs, Carroll to come off the wage bill make sense.
Daniellambretta

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28 May 2013 21:38:31
hi eds
have we shown any interest in marko marin, he has not really made an impact at chlsea and they maybe looking to sell on the cheap {Ed001's Note - not that I am aware of.}

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28 May 2013 21:22:22
Eds who are currently interested in Ter Stegan? I know you believe that we aren't interested but who is?

I remember you said Barca have an interest but consider him too young for such a move as yet. When I look at the top clubs in Europe most have a top keeper in place.

Jonesred {Ed002's Note - ter Stegan would not want to sit on the bench and has turned down Arsenal and Inter. He will hold on for a Barcelona move.}

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28 May 2013 21:54:38
In few years time he will be Peter Schem (div. sorry can't spell it) Buffon and Casillas status. Boy going to be a legend.

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If Reina leaves he would be our first choice if he joins us.

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Ed's suppose we had interest, would he join us, that is also aafter Reins leaving for Barcelona as its obvious we would have no 1st choice keeper. {Ed002's Note - Give me a break.}

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28 May 2013 21:21:51
Hi eds please could u tell me if we are interested in dusan tadic or who is thanks {Ed002's Note - There is no interest from Liverpool - Dortmund and Schalke want him as a squad player.}

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28 May 2013 20:54:25
hi eds
is there any interest in luis gustavo, he is top quality midfielder and would fit in well with winning mentality etc {Ed002's Note - Not from Liverpool.}

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He has moved today, not to us

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28 May 2013 20:01:39
Hey eds!
I know that u've repeatedly said that its highly unlikely that Liverpool may go for Chelsea's Lucas Piazon. However;on trying the search function;I found that Liverpool are going to bid for him which also appeared in Tribal Football site which is quite a reliable site. So I would appreciate if u say what's the current situation!
Cheers! {Ed002's Note - There is no current situation. Liverpool has not spoken to Chelsea about the player and an ex-Chelsea player who is looking after him on behalf of the club recently discussed options for next season with him - a loan being most likely.}

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28 May 2013 19:21:09
Will another CB be signed along with Toure or will the priority shift to more attacking options? Or GK? {Ed002's Note - I would expect another to arrive.}

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Papadopolos

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Papadopoulos

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28 May 2013 18:16:23
Kolo Toure confirmed by LFC on Twitter and on tv. He joins on July 1st.

ChrisE

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June 1st*

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I can't believe it, he's really crap. Liverpool I fear are becoming more and more like Swansea. For them this would be a coup. I can't understand why a player who failed to play last season and the season before that is somehow our answer to our departing legend.

He is too big an ego to simply sit on the bench. Does not bode well for Liverpool in the future. Clearly skrtel will be leaving.

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Good signing on the "free" but iv herd he's on about 75k a week,

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If you aren't happy you can stop complaining and support another team.

Sick of fans complaining about targets and supposed targets. We need players that'll boost us into top four, then we can get the bigger names when we've achieved that to help us remain up there.

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Personally believe is a great signing. For the long term obvious not the greatest but to bridge the gap between Carr retiring and our group of players gaining the experience needed to become top top class, I think it's ideal. Pluss he seems a good professional and guy. And that can only be a good think

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He's a great signing on a free and he is far from crap plus 75k isn't that bad as he was on 120k a week at city so he has taken a huge pay cut to join us

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Have you seen the players City have? i'd be happy for a few of them to join. Who better than a winner with vast experience to teach the youth. I don't care how much he's on I'm not paying his wages and I bet its not as much as Carra was getting so its win win for me.
RedFox.

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Great news - I must remember to renew my season ticket!

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To the second poster
Hes come in for the experience like Rodgers wants, he's there for the winning mentality like Rodgers wants!
He's not come in to replace Carra's ability, he's not here to be like Thiago Silva. The only part of Carra he's replacing is his experience, he's not here to jump right into the first team that will hopefully be Papadopoulos and with him and Agger as the back centre backs, going to need something special to get through those 2!

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Welcome to Kolo! He will be a decent signing providing he stays fit.

The A man.

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Think you'll find that the title wining season he had 14 apps in the league plus 6 as a sub
Experience is the key and he has that

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Never ceases to amaze me how quick some fans are to knock BR and his signings. The team have changed dramatically in the way we play, back to the fluid days, and it's taken a season for BR to settle the team into his mode, and if the second half of the season is anything to go by, I am liking what I see. As for Kolo, a free signing with years of winning major trophies, I struggle to see how some people are calling him crap already. If he can bring 20% of the professionalism and seniority to the team that carra gave us then he will be a great asset. Get behind your team, or go get behind someone else's!

Nobby

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Matt123: It is July 1st, the opening of the transfer window and the expiration date of his contract with City.

"He is too big an ego to simply sit on the bench. "

You do realise he has been on the bench for nearly all City games that he hasn't started this season? So twenty odd games on the bench.

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Toure is an excellent signing. He is an experienced CB who has captained Arsenal, Man City and Ivory Coast (105 caps) He has won Premier League titles with two different clubs in England so will be beneficial to have former league title winner in our side. You do not reach that level of achievement in football without having something about you. He will be good for some of our younger defensive players most notably Wisdom and Kelly. Overall, a solid signing with good leadership qualities. The people like me who know our football understand this unlike some annoying LFC fans in here.

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He will be a regular

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Good signing on a free. Great experience WINNING with both Arsenal and City. Will help defensive organization (which was Carra's biggest asset) and will look to guide the youngsters through the cup games and fill in admirably when called upon in the league.

Get in Kolo and welcome to Anfield! Think this is what Rodgers meant when he said "winners. "

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28 May 2013 17:13:38
Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers is close to completing a double swoop on rivals Manchester City with the signings of Kolo Toure and Scott Sinclair,

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That's embarrassing! BR should be sacked if he continues like that.

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Should be sacked? That escalated quickly.

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What's embarrassing about it you have no clue about football if you believe that going for these to players with Scott Sinclair costing max 6million and at Swansea run teams silly. I remember back then every one wanting him. And toure great bit of business for a free even no there is most. Likely a singing on fee.
Deanalfie

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Give them a chance

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They would be two good signings, Sinclair is allot better option than Downing.

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Great back up signing and think of the experience he would bring for the youngsters

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28 May 2013 19:23:57
BR sacked, you complete tool. Toure is a superb piece of business, an experienced free defender who has captained 2 of the top 4 teams in our country?
Sinclair, young British winger who delights fans and terrorises defences. I don't actually believe he will be coming in, Sterling and Ibe are decent prospects there and with Coutinho and Suarez being able to play wide we should be ok. I get the feeling that Downing will move on and that perhaps we will get another wide man, but I'm not sure it will be Sinclair.

Anfield Andy

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Even Downing is miles better than Sinclair. Get Dalglish or Benitez in

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I'd rather have Lescott and Rodwell if City is clearing house this summer.

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28 May 2013 20:00:37
If this is the business BR is looking to do, we are going no where - can any reds fan seriously be excited by either - none of the teams above us would be buying a player who is way past his best and another who has a half a good season - Not good enough for Chelsea or Man City and shouldn't be for us either.

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"That escalated quickly" haha, that tore me up! Rodgers has done another excellent piece of transfer businesd. A fit and motivated Kolo will do wonders for us. Exciting start - exciting summer!

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To the poster above love it! Scott Sinclair not good enough for Chelsea or Man City so and shouldn't be for us. Well I am glad we did not listen to persons like you when Brendan Rogders signed Daniel Sturridge
Because even no he didn't make it at man city or Chelsea he sure dose well for us.

Deanalfie.

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Well done Deanalfie, somebody talking sense. How much of a run has Sinclair had in either City or Chelsea team?

I personally don't think we will sign him, but I wouldn't mind if we did. And to the tool who said "Get Dalglish or Benitez in" (Personally worship them both), grow up.

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29 May 2013 03:45:31
Sinclair has never been good, their is a swansea page here, just ask their fans and will tell you more about overrated sinclair, I'm afraid if Rodgers thinks this kind of players are going to get us back to Champions league then he has lost it, if next season we don't achieve top4 then its time for him to leave!

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29 May 2013 20:40:37
He has not had a run in the man city side because he is no good enough, to compare sturridge to Sinclair is personic - very young when he left city, did well at Bolton and showed his class, behind Torres and drogba at Chelsea as most stickers would be.

Sinclair has done nothing to suggest he is a top player, you will be telling us that borini is great next - he is not, he is a waste of money as is Joe Allen

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28 May 2013 16:44:11
Eds do you see Liverpool moving for Thaigo off Barcelona if we miss out on Eriksen? {Ed002's Note - No. I have explained from teh start about Eriksen.}

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28 May 2013 15:42:07
BBC reporting erikson and the Greek defender have gone to Dortmund.

Gazman

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Wrong greek defender. The one we're apparantly after plays for Schalke, the one they've reportedly signed is from Werder Bremen.

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Not the defender we wanted though, popadopolous. Someone from werder bremen {Ed002's Note -

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Different Greek defender mate - Sotiris Papadopoulos from Bremen whereas we are 'after' Kyriakos Papadopoulos from Schalke 04 {Ed002's Note -

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There's nothing on erikson on tv and the greek defender mentioned is sokratis papastathopoulos from werder bremen not kyriakos papadopoulos which is the defender we are linked with.

Chris {Ed002's Note -

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Are they? I've just looked

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The defender is the werder Bremen Greek not the shalke one

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A good signing for Dortmund, hopefully Schalke's Pap will be on his way to us soon with Santana going there.

The A man.

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Um, no it hasn't. Quit posting things on here just for s***s and giggles.

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28 May 2013 15:39:37
Hey ed. what abt oscar cardozo, heard a lot abt him, was fantastic against chelsea. Any interest from Liverpool? {Ed002's Note - Liverpool had someone watch him in Washington DC last August but taht is all.}

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Not suited to English game

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Some people haven't a clue!

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Hi eds, I have heard Liverpool have shown interest in wayne rooney, is it true? {Ed019's Note - No}

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28 May 2013 15:19:57
tv reporting that we are very close to tying up a 2 year deal for Kolo Toure.

I think he will be an excellent short term signing (for free too) providing a wealth of experience into a young side.

Ron Saleh {Ed002's Note - There will be a significant signing on fee and I imagine significant wages.}

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But the wages will come from Carragher & Wilson's free'd up wages so therefor it isn't an issue as long as it isn't more than what Agger gets it would be fine. the signing on fee would be paid into the wages. {Ed002's Note - You think if the signing on fee is paid as part of his wages it will be cheaper?}

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I disagree on the wage front, IMO he will take a wage cut. We won't be paying him a 6 figure wage at all.

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Wages will be massive - Its a bit Joe Cole all over again for me!

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Its a good move as he has vast amounts of experience, however as ed pointed out we could have another Joe Cole on our hands as we will no doubt give him £2M or £3M signing on fee and his wages would be around £90K a week, i'd much rather us buy Papadopulous to partner Agger and use Kelly & Wisdom as direct cover use McLaughlin as cover for Johnson and Robinson as cover for Enrique.

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Am I the only one not happy about Kolo Toure coming?
I understand him bringing experience and not having to pay City for him.
However, we still pay Kolo Toure (or his agent) a signing on fee.
He will still be on very high wages, one of the best paid at the club.
He will only be here for one or two seasons before he leaves.
I just think we can get younger, better experienced players.

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Hi ed002

i don't mean to be rude but in one breath you say we don't talk about money as it confuses people and then you bring it up?it send out mixed messages. just saying. other than that great work you do your like the oracle of football gossip.

bigW {Ed002's Note - I did't discuss amounts and there is little point in explaining the add on costs.}

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Assuming he is willing to take a wage cut to stay where his kids are settled (which is apparently the reason, and let's be honest if he wants to keep playing football without moving to Russia he'll probably be taking a wage cut) then it's still a good deal I think. He might take a £3-4m signing on fee but assuming the scouts say he still has the ability and fitness, an experienced CB of his pedigree would probably cost about £6-8m bought from another club most of the time. However, the combination of him still having higher wages and that sort of signing on fee would be a concern

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28 May 2013 16:33:17
Like Big D has said. Ok signing but would be surprised if less than 90k a week. Still very costly for just 2 years. I hope we don't have another Cole or Jovanovich on our hands.

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There's no way on earth we're going anywhere near his City wages, Rodgers has some sense about him. Even with any signing on fee he won't be anywhere near the top earners.

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Good back up. But do not get in the way of Kelly development into cb

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There's no way on earth we're going anywhere near his City wages, Rodgers has some sense about him. Even with any signing on fee he won't be anywhere near the top earners.

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Toure will be taking a pay cut bless him, but even with 30% pay cut he will still earn more than any of our existing defenders. (Thats just wages. the signing on fee will be on top of that).
This signing will only make sense if Skrtel is leaving, if he is staying then its the wrong move, considering the work that was done to slim the salary pot etc.

Roy

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Dear oh dear.
Have we not learned our lesson?
What a waste of money.
He'll sit on the bench for most of the season, chiefly because he's not good enough anymore, and be paid a king's ransom for getting splinters in his jacksy.
Great start to the Summer that!
The Juicer

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Why is everyone focusing on the wages and fees. It doesn't matter, plenty of dross earn high wages and plenty of good players earn low wages it's not something we fans need to worry about! The issue is whether he has still got it and can b a quality addition to the squad surely?!
Daniellambretta

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He may or may not prove to be a decent signing, but I can't see the reasoning on giving a player who is virtually at the end of his career a "payday" - signing on fee and reasonably high wages (don't mention Gary Mc as he was a completely different kettle of fish). wasn't obtaining players of potential and re-sale value going to be the order of the day?

It's possible expenditures of this nature that create disillusionment

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As a United fan I can't believe what I'm reading.

Forget what he's earning, the move makes sense for everyone and Toure would be deemed a good addition to any squad. He hasn't played all that much recently, if he looks after himself it could extend his playing career. You could get 4 good years out of him and with a consistent run in the team may get back to the top of his game. It happens with defenders, they lose a bit of pace but are better for the yrs of experience. It's no good saying invest in youth all the time, you need a balance with good experience, especially in defence. And you can't just say "as long as it doesn't hamper Kelly's development at CB". He needs to be able to stay fit first and anyway, you need ample cover for centre back

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Not at all worries about a signing on fee. It's almost immaterial, we paid £2million for Sahin to play 6 games or so.
I imagine Carragher's freed up wages will release any burden concerning wages. I agree with another poster about the family being settled. This in turn would knock down any signing on fee. Liverpool had the entire summer to find suitable replacements, the fact this has been done so quickly suggest he doesn't want to move elsewhere from the northwest. Where else could he really go that would pay a decent wage he would want without uprooting? This seems like a perfect fit for him and the club, so I believe his demands would have been significantly reduced

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He has waved the signing on fee!

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Ed2 mr negative again. Some of your comments at times make this page grim to reed. They have also made me stop browsing the once great web sight. As often as I did for years. This is just my opinion of corse, but I'm sure a good few would agree to an extent

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Ed 2002, personally I disagree, I don't think we would be daft enough to pay through the nose for a player of his age, its a situation that suits both partys right down to the ground, he wants to stay in the north west as his kids are settled into the area and schools and were the best club in the area as Manchester United won't want him and city are letting him go, he's not going to want to go blackburn or bolton is he. I think the agreement made will be more than reasonable for both player and club.
Jaydee ynwa {Ed002's Note - Yet to be convinced.}

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Most people on this thread don't have a clue about football toure is a great signing for free

after the millions and millions we've saved in cutting down the wage i'm sure we can treat ourselves to a toure

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28 May 2013 15:15:11
Have Liverpool looked at Lucas digne?And is it likely will he sign for us in the near future (this season or next season)? {Ed002's Note - Lille's Lucas Digne has already attracted the attention of Lyon, Chelsea, Liverpool, Udinese, Barcelona, Manchester United, Manchester City, Ajax and Real Madrid. He would not want to move to sit on the bench. An offer is expected from PSG.}

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28 May 2013 12:37:50
Hi Eds, have you heard any news about the possible transfer of Leandro Paredes? I heard Milan was a possibility, do Liverpool have a chance of signing him?
Thanks. {Ed002's Note - Nope.}

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28 May 2013 11:04:33
Hello Eds,
is it true Liverpool have made a bid for Clement Grenier?
It is being reported by L'Equipe. {Ed002's Note - No.}

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28 May 2013 08:56:38
Morning Ed002. A quick question,

Is it true that Real Madrid have had a bid of 40 million euros turned down by LFC for Suarez?

Thanks,

The real AG {Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware.}

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28 May 2013 11:36:14
Grenier very close to Liverpool switch which will signal the end of Lucas's career with the club RED RUSS

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He is an attacking midfielder! Lucas is a DM. This rumour makes no sense. If you had said Shelvey, then maybe

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They play different positions.

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28 May 2013 12:17:30
Mate! That would be massive if we beat Arsenal to get him. Be another crease in Wenger's forehead to add if it happens
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Grenier's an attacking midfielder you wool

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I don't see why that would mean Lucas will be leaving the club. They don't even play at the same position.

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28 May 2013 12:28:21
Lol, really funny joke.
Lucas signed a new deal with us 3 weeks ago! He is going no where and grenier is not joining us as he is going to arsenal!

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Grenier - He is signing for Arsenal

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Grenier is a very different player from Lucas. He's not the same sort of holding midfielder at all. He plays further forward as an attack minded midfielder. I'm not convinced we are after him (despite the Twitter rumours), but if we are, I highly doubt it will be to replace Lucas.

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Thought Grenier was an attacking midfielder? Why would that spell the end of Lucas?

The Cobra

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Hopefully Lucas will leave as Alonso will sign

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I heard that Grenier was wanted by Arsenal, but that he was very expensive so I doubt that Liverpool have the money and the interest to buy him



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I really like lucas

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Thats why lucas signed a 5 year deal a few month ago!

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28 May 2013 14:55:36
Lucas is one of the best DM in the League, behave

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Grenier might be close but Lucas won't go anywhere. besides the HUGE impact his presence makes on the team, he is also Coutinho's only countryman at the club and a 50% factor Coutinho chose Liverpool.

BR see's Agger and Lucas as the two most invaluable members of the squad. Without them we will lose control.

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Even if this grenier would come lucas will stay, we have enough midfielders maybe we are counting numbers and br is looking at quality. eriksen could come or that type of player. maybe the end is near for hendersen and shelvey.

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Lucas was originally bought as an attacking midefielder

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27 May 2013 23:39:42
Downing is off to Fulham, my little birds tell me. and Jojo off to WH united.
We are buying 5 players possible 6 depends on Reina.
Erikson is the main target Pool will pay 21mil for his services
Also Tom Ince will arrive this summer for 6. 5Mil

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21mil for a player that has 1 year to go on his contract and that is worth 20m if his contract were longer and is available for 16m in this coming transfer window

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Hope you're right mate but just can't see it.

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Eriksen does have only a year left on his contract so I suspect closer to 15 than 20.

Also quick note on Ince, Liverpool have a 30% sell on clause I believe so as far as I can tell 6.5 million is really around 4.5 million. This should give us the advantage negotiating with Blackpool over potentially Tottenham

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Good one stop playing angry birds

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He will go to Dortmund. Wouldn't you?

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£21m? The other day it was £15m, what's eriksen done in the past week for his valuation to jump by £6m? Red Smoke.

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Eriksson is on Dortmund's Radar and they are offering 14mil euro.
We should allow Jonjo to go for around £3. 5-£4m
Reina is looking likely to go now (£6m - £7m)
Tom Ince isn't exactly the world class edition that we need, how is he better than Spearing or Shelvey. Not tested at the top level IMO.
Downing may stay, unless somebody pops up with an over exceeding £15m for the pot.

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Downing won't leave. Shelvey and Reina will

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Eriksen is off to dortmund

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Just heard Abdelaziz Barrada is the cheaper alternative we are looking at instead of Eriksen. {Ed052's Note - so if your so sure, why did you just ask me if we have any interest in him...}

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Shelvey is going to cardiff

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There is no 30% sell on clause in Liverpool's favour for Tom Ince. His contract was up when he went to Blackpool

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Id say the only way downing will leave is if it part of a deal for begovic

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