Liverpool Rumours Archive August 03 2016

 

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03 Aug 2016 18:28:14
Hey ed I heard rumours of a bid for Gibbs any truth in this thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware.}

03 Aug 2016 19:47:56
I hope not. Permanently injured and worse than Moreno.

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03 Aug 2016 20:42:02
Certainly an improvement on Moreno. Whether that means he is good enough for us in the long run that's another question.

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03 Aug 2016 22:19:46
Whenthereds, you must be joking. Gibbs is awful and poorer than Moreno and can't beat out an average Monreal and keeps getting hurt. We're he not English, no one will care about him. Rather play Milner there than Gibbs.

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03 Aug 2016 23:59:15
Maybe its me being an optimist but I think Milner might surprise us at LB this year. He is a tireless runner (a must for modern day fullbacks), he can use both feet (unlike Moreno) which means he should have better body positioning defensively than Moreno (who tends to position his body to cater for his left foot), better passer than Moreno, is a good crosser and should be able to read the game better than Moreno.

He does have weaknesses (eg he is slower than Moreno, seems to be prone to losing his temper and making rash tackles) but I can't see what's to gain by bagging him when the season hasn't started. Yes neither he nor Moreno are superstars but then again LB seems to be in very short supply so as long as they are dependable, that will do for the moment.

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04 Aug 2016 00:59:47
He was one of our best players in the USA Tour, and was at Left Back!

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04 Aug 2016 01:32:28
slow and susceptible to bad tackles. Not what we need in defence at all. sry but we need to go all out for hector, expensive but proven quality in my opinion.

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04 Aug 2016 10:55:16
@Grinchy I'm not sure Hector is proven quality. A good player sure, but nothing like what some posters on here make him out to be!

When has he proven himself? Hector is the only fullback of any remote quality Germnay have hence the use of Howedes and Can there as cover from central positions. Rudy and Schemlzer are very average.

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04 Aug 2016 18:25:13
Hector is positionally superior to Milner as it is his day job and more used to defending than Milner - not saying we should assume a good fit for Liverpool but he would be better than Milner there. Milner being slow and stupid tackler isn't that bad when you consider Moreno is fast and still subject to stupid tackles.

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04 Aug 2016 18:27:22
We are now also being linked with Kieron Gibbs former injury room team mate Thomas Vermaelen. I highly doubt that there is any truth in either arriving as it is injuries which cause the vast majority of our issues.

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04 Aug 2016 18:35:44
If Gibbs was going to be the difference between 6th-8th and top 4 Arsenal wouldn't be considering him to be surplus.

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04 Aug 2016 19:29:41
Vermaelen stopped being a good player a year before he left Arsenal. Gibbs has never been a good player. If we waste money on them then the world has officially gone mad.

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03 Aug 2016 15:53:44
Hi Eds, I know this is really a question for one of your other sites but do you know of any interest in Edwin Cardona of Monterry? Cheers guys, thanks for the great work.

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{Ed002's Note - Bayern Munich has a sustained interest.}

04 Aug 2016 02:12:33
Thanks Ed2, top man for answering my non-Liverpool question, I really appreciate the effort you and the other Eds put in to this site. By any chance, do any of my other fellow Reds know much about Cardona? In Jürgen we trust.

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03 Aug 2016 23:32:27
Cheers Eds, from what I've seen he looks to be different from your typical attacking midfielder, he actually has strength!

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05 Aug 2016 02:58:09
Cardona is very good, he would be my go to if we sell Coutinho.

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03 Aug 2016 18:22:13
Liverpool considering a bid for Gibbs.

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05 Aug 2016 02:59:04
I would rather us go for Obita.

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03 Aug 2016 15:48:16
Hi eds
I know the chilwell deal is dead for now but with Milner and klavan as back up to Moreno in the short term, do you think we may return in January for him? Whether he's signed a new deal or not it seems unlikely he'll be breaking into Leicester's first team any time soon due to Fuchs being likely to be ever present. Thanks.

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{Ed001's Note - no and he will get chances this season.}

03 Aug 2016 16:00:10
Cant see them letting him go, they seem like a well run club, and they have Champions League this season .

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03 Aug 2016 17:14:56
Any chance Klopp will sign another jap player- Yuto Nagatomo?

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03 Aug 2016 20:09:33
They are a well run club. Barcelona are running them all over Stockholm at the minute.

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04 Aug 2016 07:13:55
Chilwell has guaranteed footy at Leicester he wouldn't have if he'd come to us.

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04 Aug 2016 15:03:58
just checking, yes Leicester finished way ahead of us last season, and they have a really good team spirit, how they cope with so many more games, will be interesting, but they don't seem to have as many problems as other teams, and they do buy well . we, Liverpool, have a lot of catching up to do . this is a big season, just hope we get back into Europe, top four might be just out of reach, but we can only hope .

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03 Aug 2016 14:14:11
Hey eds julian draxaler wants to leave wolfsburg any chance liverpool will move I no we don't need other attacking mids.

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{Ed001's Note - really? Do you need to ask?

03 Aug 2016 15:20:06
can he play left back?

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03 Aug 2016 08:54:33
Ed001. i'm sorry mate but I can't leave the left back situation lol.

Pearce gas said were not in for Hector as his fee is too high yet Dom King and a few others have said we are after him.

Is he on the "possible" list or not?

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{Ed001's Note - not that I am aware of. I am beginning to fear we won't get the left back this summer.}

03 Aug 2016 09:32:46
Owe mate please don't say that 😂

Surely we are still at least trying to get one in?

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03 Aug 2016 09:43:06
Will be ridiculous if we don't get a LB. That and goalkeeper were the two positions we needed to most improve. I am happy with the other signings but fill the positions we need filling first!

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03 Aug 2016 10:21:42
Absolute farce of a club. Won't pay the money required to get a top target in a priority position in so we're stuck for another season with crap.
Still haven't rid the club of numerous players who should have either never been bought in the first place or should have been rid of long ago.
It's taken me 32 years but I'm sick to death of this club. It's so poorly run it angers me beyond belief.

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03 Aug 2016 10:31:32
It isn't ridiculous at all.
We haven't got the allure of european football, never mind CL.

We have an inflated squad and lose money on a daily basis.

If players we can get aren't an upgrade on the current model - we stick with what we have.

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03 Aug 2016 10:46:53
True Aggerdo, but are you saying across all Europe and beyond not one LB that is better then Moreno or makeshift Milner. And of that list of hundreds no one wants to play under Klopp cause we're not in Europe for maybe a season?

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03 Aug 2016 11:40:48
Could have had chilwell but price was the issue, our club decided to spend the money (and then some) on wiji instead. I understand chilwell was expensive but he was needed, the price of not getting a left back will be more than splashing the extra million or 2.
I still think someone will come in, probably a rushed and overpriced buy but that's the price you pay when you mess about with transfers like we do.

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03 Aug 2016 11:51:51
Max
No- but perhaps those available aren't an upgrade- that's all.

Remember before Moreno signed? There was lots of coverage on how good he was, he was the hot prospect LB. He was probably behind Alba, Alaba, Marcelo, potentially Rodriguez as the European based left back to sign.

He may get better with a bit more wok from JK- who knows?

My rationale is that we seem to name a player and automatically think he's going to jump at chance to sign.

We have to manage our finances and squad size. Realistically, I Think top-quality left backs are a rare breed as the obsession is with them overlapping and providing an attacking threat.

That means there is a real premium on those who can do it all.

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03 Aug 2016 11:54:13
Could we all please have a good look around on the floor and see if we can locate Irishkopites toys as they are missing from his pram.

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03 Aug 2016 13:02:43
Haha . very true. Irishkopite just look on the bright side . you're a Liverpool fan and have rumours to read about . you could be an Arsenal fan with nothing but a blank page to read! :-D1.

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03 Aug 2016 13:22:46
AggerDo, you are severely misinformed. Ed has said repeatedly that Chilwell came highly recommended by his coach David Wagner (Klopp`s best man at his wedding or the other way around) and coach of Huddersfield last season where Chilwell was out on loan. All the scouts at LC said he is the real deal. He just couldn`t get in ahead of Fuchs who was monstrous last season, which is understandable. LC wanted 10m for him. If that is expensive for a promising English left back then we need to get out of transfer business totally as that is total nonsense. You say we have no money nor CL but have had no issues paying stupid money for poor or average players like Balo, Benteke, Moreno, Lallana (average) and the list goes on. Stop sugar coating things. The Chilwell cock up had nothing to do with price, or lack of CL or my dog. Per Ed, Chilwell never asked for CL football and was willing to come but AS USUAL, we messed about, penny pinching over a paltry 2m (we offered 8m) and the deal was off YET we had no issues forking out a huge 25m for GW, a player many like myself believe is not needed. How do you explain that thought process? It is rank incompetence, end off. Chilwell did not reject us, we rejected him. Now we potentially, go into a season with NO left back worthy of the name as Milner and definitely Moreno are not defenders. Prolly end up paying stupid money again for a panic buy.

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{Ed001's Note - Chilwell was very keen to join us.}

03 Aug 2016 13:47:51
Cincyred

How is my post severely misinformed?

I haven't mentioned chip well or our unsuccessful pursuit of him anywhere, or contradicted the. ed.

You say we have have splashed cash on other mediocre players, we have, and hopefully have learned lessons since.

Perhaps before blasting other posters, an ability to read may prove useful?

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03 Aug 2016 13:51:22
As would my ability to proof read reply above.
Chilwell!

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03 Aug 2016 14:10:00
Believe in Klopp 😎.

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03 Aug 2016 14:11:17
It's very irrational to think there isn't one LB we could get that is better that Moreno. Would of preferred Brad Smith.

Personally I think we couldn't find a buyer for Moreno but I would of thought we could do with what we seem to do with attacking midfielders just to buy someone anyways and move the not wanted one out next year. If he has a great turn around and ends up good then we keep him or sell him for more.

As it stands we just have a obvious problem in our defence for opponents to exploit.

Anyways just under four weeks left hopefully something will happen.

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03 Aug 2016 14:21:02
Ed, was the deal dead in the water? Seems strange that if chilwell was that keen why did he sign a new deal when the window has several weeks to run. We all now deals can often get resurrected. Perhaps some guarantees of first team football at Leicester?

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{Ed001's Note - the deal was dead. We refused to up our bid.}

03 Aug 2016 14:23:45
What's all this Chillwell hype about, people making out he's the best thing since sliced bread, I'm glad he stayed at Leicester, it's the safe move for him, he's not even come close to proving himself yet. He played around 5 games last year. It's obvious klopp wants a left back and if you ask me we will get Hector. Time to stop stressing and make our voices heard for the first game, season is starting we should be jubilant! **** Chillwell.

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{Ed001's Note - this is the kind of pointless post that just annoys me and shows ignorance.}

03 Aug 2016 14:30:24
I can only hope that Klopp has seen something in Gomez in the limited time he has been able to see him train. He did look really solid in a defence that wasn't at the start of last season. He was starting in front of Moreno at that point. He's not a long term solution at left back and will almost definitely spend most of his career at centre back. He could though be a short term solution until Klopp can get a player he really wants, either in January or next Summer. Also can't Klavan play there? If we are keeping Sakho it makes sense to push Klavan to left back? Surely better options at least defensively than Moreno. I'd much rather be patient and get the right player in than panic buy someone who doesn't fit the system or style of play. Also I love our chances this year with all the change elsewhere and a few exciting new signings as well as the essential one in goal, hopefully Karius will be back fit fairly soon.

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03 Aug 2016 14:46:27
@Annie you gave me a chuckle there I must admit, credit where it's due. It doesn't take away from the fact the club is dreadful at handling transfers - both in and out of the club, and has been for many years. Having a top manager like Klopp feels like we're papering over these fundamental cracks.

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03 Aug 2016 15:07:45
Our biggest problems last year were Mignolet, Moreno and a lack of bite in midfield, we have only addressed the goalkeeper issue, but given that he is out injured we're back to square one with the clown prince of keeping. Teams are still going to exploit Moreno's brainlessness, bully us in midfield and put balls into the box knowing that Mignolet will make an error.

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03 Aug 2016 16:09:15
Mr Dennis, I wish that your post was a bad one, but your spot on, right on the button, we will get found out in the early games for sure . then kinda sort it, but by then we will be playing catch up, just hope our new goalie comes back better than ever, and that one of the squad claims the Left Back position, maybe Gomez or Klavan, who I rate highly, just wish he would have got some minutes there in a pre-season game .

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03 Aug 2016 17:34:09
Why don't we buy Fuchs from Leicester so that we get chance to see if Chilwell is any good or not ;-) . He's even played for Klopp's old team Mainz! ;-)

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03 Aug 2016 17:45:37
Klopp could yet play 3 at the back and not bodar with a LB at all. IMO when gomez played there under BR he looked good so yeh we prob ****ed up wuth Chilwell but there's a month to go yet in the transfer market.

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03 Aug 2016 18:40:33
The whole situation with LB is a shocker, quite frankly.

Probably the one position that we most needed to address, other than keeper, so what is the sum total of our efforts three months after the season ended and eleven days before our first game?

Ask Milner to play at LB.

Good grief.

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03 Aug 2016 20:01:22
It's incredible to think that a manager of Klopp's ability has failed to secure a suitable left back prior to the acquisition of Wijnaldum and the sale of Brad Smith, Wijnaldum will add goals but the team seems completely imbalanced, this newly assembled team maybe a mirror image of Brendan Rodgers side which needed to constantly outscore the opposition to win games due to defensive frailties, playing Milner out of position at LB as cover for Moreno is something Rodgers would do to drive fans insane!

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03 Aug 2016 20:54:19
Just watch Moreno have a stellar season.

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04 Aug 2016 07:17:25
Ed 1 just had a lad in my hotel from Liverpool and he seemed to no a little info regarding Chilwell that he didn't join us because he wasn't being guaranteed a place straight away? .

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{Ed001's Note - rubbish. He didn't join purely because we couldn't agree a fee with Leicester.}

04 Aug 2016 13:36:53
Cheers ed.

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{Ed001's Note - welcome mate.}

 
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