Liverpool Rumours Archive July 04 2013

04 Jul 2013 17:13:06
hi eds, for some reason I don't have a search bar at the top of my page so could you just answer this question, do Liverpool have any interest in Gerard Deulofeu from Barcelona or any central midfielders, cheers {Ed002's Note - Gerard Deulofeu was one of the two Barcelona players who was again discussed between Barcelona and Chelsea clubs earlier this year and Chelsea were told he would not be sold. Offers from Espanyol and Bayer Leverkusen have been rejected. If a sale is possible, expect interest from Bayern Munich and also an approach from Txiki Begiristain on behalf of Manchester City. Everton, Spurs and Roma are all interested in taking the player on loan.}

BANG he already signed for an other club

Basically ed chelsea are interested in everyone {Ed002's Note - Deulofeu was one of three Barcelona players who have been of long term interest. One has been purchased and interest remains in the others.}

04 Jul 2013 14:35:54
Hello Eds,
1. I know its difficult to say but do you reckon its the most likely scenario that at the start of the season our CB options will be Toure, Agger, Skrtel and Illori?
I reckon if we can't get Papa we are better of keeping Skrtel, we can always go for Papa in the Jan window.

2. Any truth in our interest in Sevilla LB Alberto Monero? {Ed002's Note - (1) There is interest in Ilori, so maybe. (2) I don't know of interest in Moreno.}

Im more than happy with our CB options

Skrtel, Agger, Toure, Kelly, Wisdom, Jones, Sama and potentially Ilori I think Skrtel will stay as Papa is deemed to expensive, Sakho will stay at PSG and that leaves Toby Alderwiereld who seems to be available at the right price under £9M but it seems as were not interested which is actually surprising as he can cover LB as well as CB and is a good defender.

Agreed bigd, I reckon a move for alderwiereld should have been done weeks ago. who knows, plenty of time, but a cheap and damn good option. I hope we don't leave it too late. {Ed002's Note - Liverpool decided the asking price was too high, but it is certainly less than that being asked for Papadopoulos. It looked likely that a move to Bayer Leverkusen would go ahead but they too see him as over priced. Maybe Liverpool will look to him again.}

BigD, can Alderweild cover LB? I've never seen him and checked earlier today and I saw he could cover RB but no mention of LB. Would be ideal if he can, obviously only if he's good enough - next question - is he good enough? And finally do you know is he in the final year of his contract as someone posted earlier that he is (quite expensive if he is?)

04 Jul 2013 17:05:06
Read some where alderwield move to leverkusen has stalled, meaning Liverpool could yet make a attempt to buy him from ajax, he's belgian if I, m not mistaken and with mignolet having signed, and the fact he can play left back, a posisition we are short in! I reckon he could be a great signing, but not sure what budget br has, ands don't know what ajax are asking?

Dhh l20 kopite

04 Jul 2013 17:06:45
I think he's left footed

If he's left footed that might indeed mean he could cover LB . or it could equally work against him, as Agger is pretty much a shoe in for the left side of a CB partnership, and we seem to be prioritising a potential replacement for Skrtel.

Illori will sign within a fortnight or so as 4th choice CD. If Agger or Skrtel move on we'll get a bigger name in (probably Alderweireld as Papa and Sakho look v unlikely). Other than that BR wants competition for Enrique, but it won't be Digne as he wants guaranteed 1st team action. Shaw is possible but could be the same prob as with Digne. That'll be it defence-wise now Kelly is back.

04 Jul 2013 22:18:49
He is right-footed and has played at right back so fairly versatile very good option but BR could have a string of other good options we don't know about, time will tell and plenty of time in the transfer window left.
Carlos

Almost any decent centre back can use both feet and does so on numerous occasions.

I will be most disappointed now if Skrtel does't go and a replacement isn't brought in. We selected a 35 year old over him last year half way through the season he was that poor. Unless there's been a dramatic change in his game. I see us being plagued at the back again.

04 Jul 2013 12:21:50
According to hungarian newspaper Nemzeti sport
Today Liverpool have beaten Inter milan to the Dzudszak's
Signature

"Liverpool have made £12 m final offer for Balazs Dzudszak.
And publicist Dynamo Moscow will announce signing via an
Official press release in few days"

Eds: is this a new story or the rehashed one from June? {Ed002's Note - I suspect it is an old story being recycled, but Liverpool showed interest in Dzsudzsak whilst at PSV and again in January when the club enquired after a loan. More recently Inter, Schalke and Parma have shown an interest. It would certainly not be out of the question.}

04 Jul 2013 16:32:50
If this is true then we've got him cheaper than when he left psv. and would you now think all interest in HM is put to bed? Though doesn't he play on the wing?

Cheers Alfie

I highly doubt this.
Why spend so much for such average.

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BKP

He can play either wing or second striker, good pace, great technical ability, excellent left foot and amazing at freekicks. I'd be really happy if this is true he'd be a definite improvement on downing. I'd guess it would spell the end of downing or assaidi.

Fester

According to a Russian jurno in 72 hours we would have signed Micky that was 144 hours ago

04 Jul 2013 12:17:35
John Thompson of Liverpool Echo tweets Suarez will stay and HM will be marquee signing. Seen before his reports are fairly on point, so hope this is too. Carlo

The guy dosent deserve to stay. Sell him!

I hope this is not true. I just cannot see Suarez staying out of trouble. My fear is what next.

Get rid of spoilt brat Suarez for big money. and sign a class payer who's longing to come here. ( Mkhitaryan )

Spoilt brat? The guy can help us challenge for the league title let alone top 4, and if we signe Mkhitaryan as well we are going to have some team next season. Hope he stay's. Gerrard Suarez Sturridge Coutinho Mkhitaryan Aspas mouth watering!

Yeah let's get rid of the best forward in the entire premier league. If he's good enough for real or bayern he's good enough for Liverpool. SO GET REAL!

I absolutely agree with the last comment . I genuinely believe with a couple of more additions like Mikey and a top centre half if we hold onto Suarez we will fight for the league let alone top 4

Oh no, not talk of the league title.oh no please

Speaking of spoilt brats has Mickey not gone on strike to force a move. Like for like by the looks but I would love them both starting in a very attacking red army!

Why not try for the league? there are so many new managers coming in elsewhere and we have bugger all else to fight for. With 2 top goal keepers, a killer strike force and a healthy back line we might aswell try. I know there are a number of assumptions in that statement transfer window wise. But even if we miss out, we'll atleast land in the top 4 and have a champions league spot come 14/15/.

All top players are spoilt brats these days, sad but true. Very few like Stevie and Carra play entire career for one club. They are all fake badge kissers in it for as much money they can get their greedy paws on. They have their strings pulled by their even greedier agents who turn their heads when they are promised a deal for more money!

Just listen to some of you!
Are you LIVERPOOL fans or just fans of those creeps at Fenway?

Fenways plan is to buy kids, develop them, sell them at a profit. And bring in someone at a lower wage. ofcourse the profit goes into their axxx pocket.

And some of you are ignorant and stupid enought to support that.

A basic policy of fenway, in England AND the US, is to smear a star. And force him out, SO THEY CAN PROFIT!

And you fall for it each and every time!
Torres, Mereiles, Suarez, Reina.
They even tried to boot out Dagger.
YOU MUGS! {Ed002's Note - I see you are still being as much of an embarrassment to the club as you can. The owners, the management, the players and the fans seem to be the target of your hate.}

Suarez will still be with us next season for a number od reasons!

pb

04 Jul 2013 19:34:38
Suarez will give us one more season and will go to Madrid next year where he can bite a few more people.

Are these the same fans who shouted for gerrards head when he was half way down the motorway to sign for chelsea before he started crying and said he couldn't go through with it. FACT he was soon forgiven and is now a hero so get off suarez, s case and get behind him.If real madrid come in for gerrard don't you think his head would be turned aswell, get behind whoever wears the red shirt and support the team

If HM comes, it's as a replacement for Suarez. Liverpool won't challenge for the title if the backline isn't sorted and a dm cover isn't found

To the unknown poster saying the club will develop young players and sell them on. Wouldn't it be in FSG best interest to build the club up to a premier league winning team with a larger capacity stadium and a commercially sound club then sell for a profit?

Suraez wil stay miky in cushty

Hoping LS stays, seemed early on with no bids coming in that might be the case.

He knows he's messed up, hopefully he learns and we can get on with a cracking season with the new additions.

Just wondering where these Gooner rumors have come from? Gooner fans just hoping?

Wrong on both counts.

LS will leave

HM has gone elsewhere

04 Jul 2013 01:05:47
Has doutmond lost interest in mkhitaryan now that aubameyang has joined them?

No they play different positions.

I think the still want him

03 Jul 2013 23:18:21
Ed's been hearing the possibility that HM might not even be owned by Shaktar or their shareholding is below 50% so the decision is out of their hands as they can be outvoted by the other owners.

Heard the information coming from The Shaktar president is irrelevant and should be ignored. Heard that Ian Ayre has been negotiating with the correct people. The bid Dortmund made went to Shaktar and is possibly irrelevant as the main owners have not agreed to it.

Again, I heard that a deal maybe close with the other parties and personal terms agreed, but money is the biggest factor for Liverpool completing it. I.e. they currently do not have it. Without selling Suarez, it looks very difficult to close the deal.

FSG are trying to balance the books this year shead of FFP. The main ones they wanted off the books are Carroll, Suarez and Reina which will significantly reduce the salary levels. I also believe after the 20 million in January there is not much of a budget this summer.

This is what I have heard it maybe wrong but it sounds plausible.

Orrin

Agree with the bit about Liverpool negotiating with the correct people hence the bid is before them and not the club because of they owning a higher stake in the player. Don't necessarily agree with Liverpool not having money to pay for the player, to me its pure speculation. As the eds say we get to caught up with clauses and finances. It's like going to the supermarket knowing you have to buy a trolley full of groceries but only took money for a basketful full then to shame yourself at the counter. Liverpool know what the player cost and I don't believe they would have open talks to waste their time along with the player and the owner. It just don't add up.

We ain't spent nothin yet carroll and jonjo cover that

04 Jul 2013 01:16:33
Or you've read other news clips and come to the assumption? 2+2=?

Incorrect article the reliable Phil McNulty from BBC has confirmed that LFC do not need to sell Suarez to buy HM

Why on earth does it sound plausible that FSG, who want success for the club, want Saurez, our only world class player to leave?
It sounds far more plausible that they would want to buy more class players if FSG want success.
The question is Do They?.
They have the money.

Orrin - you are correct about the state of the clubs finances. There is some re-balancing going on. Suarez moving is not salary related. Reina & Carroll situation was and is salary related - club want maximum bang for their buck and rightly so. In the same vein Johnson, Skrtel & Downing are high earners with either 2 yrs on contract or lack of first team spot to factor in. Johnson at least is a first teamer so Reina, Skrtel & Downing out is highly likely with Spearing sold too. Coates and Assaidi will be loans probably this summer as no clubs currently offering cash for permanent deal.

Kidder

It's not in the best interest of LFC to want to get rid of Suarez.
Some people just don't understand?
Champions League qualifcation means increased revenue/money!
We have a better chance with Suarez in the side of achieving our goals.
Your guesswork just doesn't make sense.

Nooo they do have it. It's just the case of balancing the books and having enough to complete the purchase of HM & the Young defender.

But the difficulty they've had with both deals hasn't helped.

In the coming days or weeks things should be a lot clearer.

KOPBOY

Its nothing to do with FFPlay. They've been dumping debts onto the club from day one. Its now about 90m, started at 50m.

They are conmen pure and simple.
Kick out top players, recruit kids and also rans. Last yr, the wage bill was chopped by about 25m a year(source- Sky).

Midtable now, and midtable next year. They simply don't care that top players need good wages.

This club is in meltdown.
RIP LFC {Ed002's Note - Any debt on the club decreases the value of the club as an asset. That asset is owned by FSG. This is another reason we don't discuss finances - because people simple don't understand.}

To the 'RIP LFC' post.

What is the point in posting? You clearly know very little and you are pruely speculating. If it wasnt for FSG we would likely be in the Championship.

Guys,

Liverpool are not in a strong financial position at the moment. FSG are trying to make it strong. They have invested a lot of money in the club and they are trying to make it a sustainable model. This means paying lower salaries and finding value for money in the transfer market.

Just think about it. Do we really have 35. - 40 million to spend on HM and Papadopolous (or another expensive defender) without selling Suarez? We lost 70 million last year, we cannot keep spending in the way we have done. We have saved money on the salaries of the players we have sold compared to what we have bought but adding MH and Another defender will mean we are probably spending more on salaries then we are currently. That just does not make sense in a loss making company.

If you want to see when you have a big benefactor walk away you new to just look at Malaga. They are currently banned from Europe and selling all their good players. They will struggle to stay up next season.

Orrin

If it wasn't for FSG we probably wouldn't exist! At least in the same entity!

Just because FSG are trying to make the club self-sustaining doesn't make them conmen, quite the opposite in my opinion.

SA

I agree with SA. And RIP LFC I think you are miles off - what top players have the owners kicked out? Yes they trimmed the wage bill extremely well but I think most fans will agree it is removing high earners who do not contribute to the team is what they were doing there, ala Joe Cole, Andy Carroll (as his style doesn't suit), Maxi (wanted to go home & bit part player), Kuyt (energizer batteries can't last forever).

Do you mean top players like Gerrard with a history of injuries and a new contract? Or Suarez like the new contract he was given last season?

Right firstly to the poster with all the debt nonsense. Lpool were about to go bankrupt after the other 2 cowboy's leveraged buyout. FSG are never going to be able to finance like City and Chelsea but they bought the club with little debt. The 2 cowboy's were paying upto 30m a year in interest payments which crippled us.

FSG have made Lpool one of the least in debt clubs and we now pay the banks around 3m in interest. The only way we can buy 50m players is the banks, so you moan about not buying stars and that FSG have put us in debt, you clearly don't understand finance as Lpool are now able to spend a little more than we used to, i'm not their biggest fan but they actually saved the club and now supposed fans like you just spout complete guff.

Can I just interject something here . 'cos i'm getting real fed up with some posters whining about our present owners .
Not meaning to get anyone's back up or anything but if you want to see just how incompetently the club has been run for 2 decades then please order a copy of Brian Reade's "Epic Swindle. etc "
Ok FSG might not be everyone's cup of tea but they at least seem to be trying put things right . without them I seem to recall we were up the preverbial creek without a paddle and heading into oblivion FAST.
Anyone doubting these words, go buy the book, sit on the dunny for a couple of hours and think a bit more before posting your personic bile!
(Exit's stage left, tugging forlock )