Liverpool Rumours Archive August 08 2012

 

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08 Aug 2012 22:28:29
Evening eds , Bobby Gould has just said live on air on talksport that Joe Allan is joining man u & he says it comes from a very very reliable source do any of the eds know if this is true , thanks as always for your hard work great site ..... Steve {Ed002's Note - I don't know - but he is an old man and perhaps confused.}


It's in guardian and times that allen join Liverpool. where the hell man utd come from?


Lmao cheers ed 2 ....Steve


H ed :) allways making me laugh
Ruben


This could be correct as they have lost out to the young Brazilian star Moura, yet another player we have been linked with misses the boat.

At this rate cant see us buying anyone, and it looks like we have to sell before we can buy, what are things coming to?


It's not 'Talksh!t' for no reason!

ChrisMiz


Well done the turk league is llike the scottish league plus i love kught but that will be it from him hard worker but no torre's etc


{Ed002's Note - I don't know - but he is an old man and perhaps confused.}

That is too funny.


Absolute nonsense, as I said earlier, the fee for Allen has already been agreed, and he will be a Liverpool player by next Monday.

RetroGuy33,


Bobby,give it up mate. I'll organise the care home, you get your blanket.

nuclearboy


Bobby Gould also thought Vinny Jones was an international footballer. Enough said.

The Liver Bird


"Yet another player we have been linked with misses the boat"

Are you real? A pundit on TS says Allen's joining the Mancs and you immediately scream like a baby who's thrown his toy out of the pram.There's not the slightest sign that Utd are interested in Allen.

The Plank


Well jones did play for Wales so that makes him an international player!


Ed002, you're awesome. What a fantastic reply! You've always been my favourite.

THE SUMON VAI


No, thats Ray Allen (And Lord Charles)....


Well, I think there is a real possibility that Man U will try to sign Allen. Remember Man U's favorite tactic in Signing players?

(Answer: Tapping Up)


 

 

08 Aug 2012 22:04:47
Eds, Regarding Macca's most recent statement. Do you rate the likes of Sahin, Tello, Walcott to be likely for us to sign?
Cheers,
Red Maestro {Ed002's Note - I am less confident about Sahin than the others. As for Tello, Barcelona have no immediate plans for the player under the new manager. I understand that there remains a slim chance of a loan deal to Ajax as part of a deal for another player but I suspect he will leave rather than head to the B team. My understanding is that general enquiries about the player's availability have been made by Porto, Seville, Malaga and Liverpool. Discussions about loans of one type or another have been raised by Valencia, Ajax and Atletico Madrid. I also understand that Benfica have now made a proposal to Barcelona - but I don't know what it is. So there is clear interest from Liverpool.}


Is sahin possibly a back up incase the Alen deal fails to materialise? other wise the midfield seems a little bit on the heavy side.


 

 

08 Aug 2012 22:01:41
The Times are reporting that we have bid £15m for Joe Allen which has triggered his release clause.

Swansea have no choice but to allow Allen to discuss personal terms with Liverpool. the two clubs just need to discuss payment schedule.

JRG


 

 

08 Aug 2012 22:10:33
Ed: Now Liverpool made ‹‹a bid for Joe Allen, and the bid is £ 15 million. And it does have the avenue to the contract so he can show he wants. Do you think Liverpool will buy Allen then? And do you think we buy Gaston Ramirez in the summer? (take it on rumours site pleaze ?) {Ed002's Note - I expect Joe Allen to sign. I have explained my views on Ramirez and it is not worth opening up again.}


 

 

08 Aug 2012 21:56:28
Sorry this is a bit later than expected everyone. Hope it helps..

Weekly Transfer Summary From CC

** = Updated since Red Rout's Roundup

**Kaka: Ed002's Note - Firstly he is available and he has the remit to talk with other clubs. Additionally he has been offered (albeit rejected) as part of a deal for another player. His wages would be an issue if it were a loan unless Real Madrid paid more than half (which seems unlikely) and I would think the fee and wages would be an issue if a permanent transfer were sought. He is also another central midfield player and it is not a position I see as a priority. To me it does not seem likely.

**Junior Hoillet: Signed for QPR.

Ryad Boudebouz: Ed002's Note - Ryad Boudebouz will leave Sochaux with Real Betis and Lyon showing an interest. Way back in the day interest was shown by PSG, Spurs and Liverpool and certainly both made tentative enquiries. Lyon would seem to be the most likely destination right now.

Daniel Parejo: Ed001's Note - from what I can find out, Valencia don't need to sell, Alba only went because of a buy back clause apparently. But they are one of the few clubs in Spain that are not in deep doo doo right now. They were, but they seem to have sorted themselves out. I can't find out anything about us having an interest in him either, though that isn't 100% as we have scouted so many games, it is almost impossible to be sure which actual players we looked at

**Godin: Ed002's Note - He would certainly be a viable option but if he becomes available there will be much interest.**

**Quaresma: Ed002's Note - I was still living in Monaco whhen he was at Chelsea but I don't recall him playing more than a handful of games. Much was expected of him when he was younger but since leaving Porto he has been much lower profile. The rumours persist and he would, I expect, be cheap so it is certainly a strong "maybe" for Liverpool.

**Rossi: Ed052's Note - Injured though, and might never play again - and still not that cheap

**Ganso: Ed002's Note - No, there will be no interest from Liverpool

**Gaston Ramirez: Ed002's Note - I have explained that there is a chance that Liverpool make may an effort to sign Ramirez. Betancourt is still sharing his views with anyone who will listen. Bologna has made it clear who they are talking to and the price they expect for the player. The only interested club I understand to have been ruled out by the player is Wolfsburg.

**Adebayor: Ed006's Note - No.

**Remy: Ed002's Note - Two approaches have been made to Marseille. Neither from Liverpool.

**Demba Ba: Ed002's Note (on loan) Ed002's Note - I would think not.

Josep Ilicic: Ed002's Note - Possibly. Both Milan clubs and Juventus have an interest in Ilicic but Inter are favourites if he does come up for sale this summer, which I doubt. England seems a unlikely destination although Chelsea, Liverpool and Aston Villa have looked at the player in the past.

**Dzeko: Ed022's Note - Yes he is available, however a move to Germany looks likely at this time regarding a deal involving Muller

Susaeta: Ed002's Note - Real Madrid, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea and Paris St Germain have shown at least some level of interest in Athletic Bilbao's Markel Susaeta in the past few months

**Llorente: Ed052's Note - Even if we were (which I would doubt now) he would have other options, including several Champions League clubs.

Jackson Martinez: Ed002's Note - He is going to join Porto.

**Adam Johnson: Ed052's Note - If there is interest, he wants to come and City will sell yes.

**Micah Richards: Ed052's Note - I doubt we would go for Richards unless one or two of our RB's were leaving, and I doubt we would buy 2 CB's - remember the youth can play a part, e.g. Wisdom. the extra money from Agger can be used for other areas of the squad

**Victor Moses: - Ed002's Note - I suspect Victor Moses will complete a move to Chelsea on Friday

**Javi Martinez: Ed002's Note - I really don't see Martinez as an option at all

**Muniain: Ed002's Note - Muniain was touted around the clubs on behalf of Bilbao in January - and the two clubs in England that were approached were Chelsea and Manchester United. The asking price was 40M euros. They won't get it because I don't think clubs would risk half of that on a player who is young and has had some off field issues. If the price comes down to a reasonable level (20M euros might be an acceptable figure) I can see interest from several English clubs including Manchester United and Liverpool. Napoli and Roma interest is still there and rumours abound of Juventus and Malaga interest but perhaps an eventual move to Barcelona beckons.

**Afellay: Ed002's Note - It looks like Barcelona will now make him available. Dortmund and Schalke have a declared interest in the player and Italy looks like another option available to him (although Inter have said they are no longer interested). There may be interest from the likes of Liverpool, Arsenal, Spurs and Newcastle. A move to Lille has already been rejected.

**Sahin: Ed002's Note - I would doubt both would arrive. Sahin has had injury problems this year but rumours do persist about his long term future. He has been angling for a move to AC Milan who are being cautious in the market or a return to Germany (with Bayern Munich). A move to Besiktas has been rejected although Galatasaray would like to take him to Turkey. There is confirmed interest from Spurs, Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester United. Malaga also spoke to Madrid about the possibility of a loan. I understand that Miguel Pardeza would like to see a sale

Schurrle: Bayer Leverkusen may be willing to sell Schurrle if the player wishes to leave. There has been interest from Chelsea for about a year and following the departure of Kalou it is certainly possible they may now push for the player. There is unsubstaniated interest from Inter as well.



**Dempsey: Ed002's Note - Roma and Wolfsburg are interested as are Liverpool.

**Rondon: Ed002's Note - Spurs are right on top of Rondon this week, trying to get a cut price deal as the club failed to sell by July 31. Whether or not they wioll be successful we will see. Beyond what we already know, Liverpool's buying will likely be driven by departures and of course we still have the "major star on loan" to be unmasked - perhaps he is a striker

**Matt Philips: Ed022's Note - It will depend on Rodgers but I imagine we are keeping tabs on him

**Sakho: Ed002's Note - Liverpool have not shown any interest in Sakho through his club or agent. PSG do not want to sell Sakho. Sakho says PSG are the best club in the world and he does not want to leave. PSG have no interest in Agger. As such, I am pretty sure Sakho will not be moving to Liverpool this summer.

**Amorebieta: Ed002's Note - Amorebieta seems a possibility.

**Kjaer & Zapata: Ed002's Note - Kjaer is beginning to attract interest but an outsider should (rather than might) be Zapata. He is available but it would mean moving quickly to get ahead of clear favourites Lazio and even perhaps Napoli.

**Jovetic: Ed049's Note - Highly Unlikely

**Vargas: Ed002's Note - There has certainly been sustained interest in Vargas but I am not sure it will go anywhere.

**John Guidetti: Ed002's Note - Perhaps is the best I can offer right now.

Cavani: Ed002's Note - You may need to save up a bit to attract Cavani to Liverpool.


Matuidi: Ed029's Note - Blaise Matuidi is a good DM and has been linked in the past


Luuk De Jong: Joined Borussia Monchengladbach.

Moutinho: Ed002's Note - I don't know of any confirmed interest from Liverpool. Rumours persist of Moutinho moving to Chelsea if they would pay the 30M euros required but realistically it is unlikely to happen. If AVB takes the Spurs job and they lose Modric, I would expect that they will look to Moutinho.



**Moussa Sissoko: E Ed001's Note - there has been no signs of a revived interest in him, that I know of. So I would rate it unlikely, as things stand, though Rodgers will have all the scouting reports etc, so he could be in mind as a back up option.

**Daniel Sturridge: Ed002's Note - At the moment Liverpool have not enquired about Sturridge, but if they do I will say.

**Higuain: Ed002's Note - He was offered to Chelsea in January for a very significant fee and a commitment not to go after Cavani. PSG looked a likely option but that has drifted away. I expect that he will stay in Madrid.

M'Baye Niang: Ed002's Note - M'Baye Niang is still a 17 year old with difficulties remaining over his contract. He could not move outside of France without a parent or guardian moving with him until he is 18 under the new rules as he still counts as a "child". Perhaps one for the future. In the unlikely event he leaves France I suspect it will be to Italy although there is interest from Arsenal and Manchester City.

** Leandro Damiao: Ed023's Note - As far as I know Spurs have a long term interest in Damiao, not to sure Liverpool have an interest

**Huntelaar: Ed002's Note - We don't know of interest in Huntelaar

Eriksen: Ed002's Note - Liverpool, Manchester City, Arsenal, Chelsea and AC Milan have shown an interest in Eriksen. He has already rejected both Manchester City and Chelsea but AC Milan remain the most interested club. Back in mid July someone from the Milan Press Office said he had heard of interest from Manchester United - but I am not aware of any confirmation of that interest. I doubt that January is an option for a move to Liverpool, but perhaps the summer. The player has expressed an interest to move to Spain.

**Goetze: Ed002's Note - Goetze may be available in the summer at the right price. Arsenal, Manchester United and Barcelona were previously knocked back by his club although Goetze has identified his favourite teams as Barcelona and Arsenal. There is also interest also from Real Madrid, Juventus, Chelsea and AC Milan - who I suspected were shifting their interest in Ganso or Fernando to Goetze. Chelsea know that there will be pressure from elsewhere to buy the player - most notably AC Milan and the major Spanish sides - and are of the opinion that a move to England will probably not come about although I suspect Manchester United will look to the player again. There remains a very good chance he will stay for another season in Germany 


**Lucas Moura has reached and agreement with PSG

**Coutinho: Ed002's Note - The situation with Philippe Coutinho remains broadly unchanged as far as I know. Inter had offered to loan Coutinho to Bologna as part of a deal for Gaston Ramirez that eventually fell through last summer. He had a few starts early in the season and with Inter looking to sell Sneijder at some point to help fund their rebuilding I don't think they would want to sell - hence the loan to Espanyol. Coutinho would need a work permit so any move would not be easy. I suspect he will stay with Inter this summer and see how it goes next season.

James Mccarthy: Ed002's Note - I am sure Wigan would be willing to let James McCarthy move on if the right offer was made and Liverpool have previously shown an interest. Clubs enquiring in the summer baulked at the £20M price tag.

**Esteban Granero: Ed002's Note - He will probably stay at Madrid

**Griezmann: Ed001's Note - yes, there was interest in the past in him, not sure if we still maintain the interest though.

**Strootman: Ed002's Note - Manchester United and Liverpool took a look at KevinStrootman earlier in the season but tentative enquiries were met by a reluctance to sell so soon after arriving. His recent performances have attracted further interest from AC Milan, Schalke 04 and Hamburg but it is AC Milan and, in particular, Valencia who are doing their best to persuade PSV to sell. I would expect plenty of interest if he does become available.

**Mirallas: Ed002's Note - Lille, Toulouse and, in particular, Arsenal and Werder Bremen have been showing an interest in Mirallas after a move to Bayern Munich failed to materialise. Unconfirmed reports identify interest from Liverpool

Carlos Eduardo: Ed001's Note - I don't know of any interest in him from us.

**Van Persie: Ed002's Note - I would not think there is any chance at all.

Sinclair: Ed002's Note - I postulated that you may see interest in Sinclair after the Olympics

**Joe Allen: Ed002's Note - I would expect Allen to sign

**Matias Suarez: Ed002's Note - There was a statement from CSKA first thing this morning saying he had not passed his medical and would return to his Anderlecht. There was no detail, and to be fair you would not expect any / There was interest before, so maybe.

Papa Cisse: Ed001's Note - Newcastle would not be interested in losing him.

**Tello: Ed002's Note - Barcelona have no immediate plans for the player under the new manager. I understand that there remains a slim chance of a loan deal to Ajax as part of a deal for another player but I suspect he will leave rather than head to the B team. My understanding is that general enquiries about the player's availability have been made by Porto, Seville, Malaga and Liverpool. Discussions about loans of one type or another have been raised by Valencia, Ajax and Atletico Madrid. I also understand that Benfica have now made a proposal to Barcelona - but I don't know what it is. So there is clear interest from Liverpool.

**Walcott: Ed002's Note - Both are possibilities - Macca has said there is interest in Walcott.

Honda: We had a chance in January 2011 but passed mate. In all honesty can't see it happening. CSKA won't want to sell mid-season.

Doumbia: Ed002's Note - There was an enquiry from Newcastle and a failed offer from Lazio in January for Doumbia. Other clubs have had scouts at games but that is some way from making any serious enquiries for the player. Doumbia does a good job of talking himself up and CSKA will likely want £25M or so for the player as there is no pressure to sell. Napoli, Roma and Arsenal are interested in the player but have yet to make any financial proposal and rumours persist of interest from Chelsea and Spurs. Someone putting a bid on the table will make this much more high profile - and it could be one that drags on all summer

Grosskreutz: Ed022's Note - No idea mate, although I've heard the rumours. Personally I think it's BS.



Henoc Mukendi: Ed001's Note - he is not a top prospect, hence his move on loan to a place that will get him plenty of first team football and the chance to make it through with us. There is every chance he will play for us, he is on the cusp of being good enough, with the right work ethic he can be. It really depends on this loan spell now for him. It is difficult to rate youth team prospects, to be honest, kids can make huge improvements in a couple of months and turn into top class players.

**Skrtel: Macca's Note: Again as we all know things do change but i believe Skrtel will sign a new contract..

**Aquilani: Sold to Fiorentina

**Agger: Ed001's Note - Agger has been up for sale for years, but only if the price was met, his injuries have always meant he couldn't be trusted to be available when it matters. Up till now, there has never been any interest in getting near his valuation. Now people are suddenly aware of what a great player he is, in those 47% or so of games he is fit for. Shame, because he is a genuinely likeable lad, but he will never play enough games and he probably won't play at a top level as long as he should because of them. / Macca's Note: Agger does not want to join City so fingers crossed that will not happen and he will stay..

**Pacheco: Ed052's Note - I think he will stay and be given a chance

**Joe Cole: Ed002's Note Ed002's Note - I would imagine that is a matter of discussion right now. At present it looks like he is staying however I would not be surprised if that were to change.

**Sterling: Ed049's Note - We are not considering of selling Sterling to Spurs, Don't believe everything you read.

**Suso: Ed002's Note - I know little of the kiddie footballers but perhaps wait until the end of the transfer window before having a name added.. I cannot give an assurance about players not being linked to other clubs.

**Adam: Macca's Note: Demsey is on going with Adam used as a makeweight, could drag on..

**Carroll: Ed002's Note - There has to be a good chance (of him leaving)

**Bellamy: Ed002's Note - I would think there is a chance of Bellamy leaving after the Olympics if a deal can be struck with Cardiff City. I would doubt a move elsewhere would interest him

**Suarez: Signed new contract.

If you'd like us to add any players to this list, feel free to leave a comment.

Thanks
Curtiss {Ed033's Note - Thanks Curtiss


Curtiss what was the point in that?


Could have just suggested using the search function :-) {Ed002's Note - Actually he deserves thanks. Just a quick glance and update is that Llorente is on the market today and Juve have said they may be interested.}


Nice one mate.

Red Rout


Thanks for that


Many thanks for the effort. Greatly appreciated.


Thanks curtiss . ant


Fair play mate....ta

Dwood


Good work Curtiss - makes it a lot easier than having to trawl through the previous 1000 posts

cozinoz {Ed019's Note - Thanks for your efforts Curtiss}


Thanks mate, always useful. Cant beleive some of the above posters giving you grief for this.


From an avid reader who can't seem to locate and utilise this 'search function' the eds keep going on about, a sincere thanks!

RedDen


As i replyed (SPELLING I THINK) earlier,curtiss you are deffo a rumours nut in a good way tho,seemed to have summed up just about everything you should be given a job as one of the edd's your are passionate cheers..

red blancmonge


Well done. Now when people ask the same question over and over again. The eds can say search curtiss simple.

Dublin red


Thanks for taking the time to do this. Very helpful mate.
China red


Wicked!! I have been waiting for this... I must keep missing them :)

rrrRedAlert


So who do you think we will sign BR says his looking to bring in 3-4 players


Nice 1 as always Curtis mate...

Phooey


Nice 1 as always Curtis mate...

Phooey


Thanks, saves so much time.
Is this going to be a weekly thing?
FowlerGod.


Fowler is god: Myself and Red Rout update this list every two weeks of the transfer window mate. Whether or not we continue to do it once the window closes remains to be seen.

I'm glad it's helped some of you out. Don't feed the trolls!

Thanks
Curtiss


Hasnt rondon gone to rubin kazan? {Ed002's Note - He has now.}


Rondon has signed for Rubin Kazan


 

 

08 Aug 2012 21:50:28
Joe Allen release clause activated - he'll be LFC player for £15m

Paulo


 

 

08 Aug 2012 21:50:28
Just reading on the Times that we have indeed met Joe Allen's £15m release clause.

Good signing I think.

Cheers

Davey


 

 

08 Aug 2012 21:40:41
LFC have bid 15 million for Joe Allen, triggering a clause in his contract.......


 

 

08 Aug 2012 21:38:53
i know categorically rodgers is looking to bring in an attacking mid and a right foward after completing the allen deal.the targets for the attacking mid are dzagoev,honda,a player from malaga(i think isco) and nuri sahin.The targets for wide forward are callejon,wellington (who plays for cska moskva),walcott, and tello.
Also rodgers is targeting a striker with his list including a.hernandez,john guidetti,soldado(yes i know he recently just signed a contract but there hve been enquiries) and kevin mirallas.
There was brief contact regarding llorente bt a move will only happen if the above strikers are all not available.
Rodgers has already made enquiries about the following players getting negative responses:youhnes belhanda, luis nani, Aaron lenon,kaka sebastian giovinco and alex witsel.
For those doubting the intelligence of rodgers...he has an agreement with newcastle in place where if there is no one bids for carroll and he hasnt found another striker carroll returns to newcastle while cabaye and ba and 2 mil come to lfc.bt if he has found a striker lfc will get cabaye and 10 mil.
The players rodgers is lookibg to offload a spearing for good,shelvey on loan(depending on transfers success,adam morgan(on loan),adam and joe cole(his wages have put of west ham,fulham,reading and qpr(who had actually put in a bid of 3 mil but wanted assistance from lfc with the wages lfc rejected this,bt qpr are expected to return with a new offer on monday.)
expect a new signing on thursday next week(note:allen may happen before this)...the marquee signing of the window for 23 mil ( havent mentioned him above).he will be from the spanish league and is under 25 years old.Very few people know who it is so if i say someoNe will get in trouble.
Wait for thursday...when it happens it was here you saw it first...plus the other signings.!! YNWA.


It's Munian.

Mantis


I saw it here and I've seldom read such a load of tripe.£15 million for Allen and an un-named £23 million marquee signing! Garbage! I don't know where you got this lot from but I suspect mind expanding chemicals.

The Plank


I cannot see Cabaye and £10m in exchange for Carroll in a million years.


Sounded plausible until you started talking about 'marquee signings', which is just a fan contruct. I find it hard to believe that any sensible club think in such a way. Fail.


I highly doubt Rodgers wasted his time making an enquiry for nani! come on seriously at least make up realistic rumours


I believed you until the cabeye bit. Good attempt though.


Sorry mate but this is pure BS. Granted you have taken time and a little bit of thought with it, but it's still BS.

Look at your Newcastle propostion. Cabaye, Ba and £2million for AC or Cabaye and £10million. By my reckoning that makes Ba worth £8million and that ship has sailed my friend.


Why wud he offload carroll to bring in another CM to clog the midfield up


So just to summarize:

One of Dzagoev, Honda, Isco, or Sahin for attacking mid

One of Callejon, Wellington, Walcott, or Tello for forward

One of Abel Hernandez, Guidetti, Soldado, or Mirralas for Striker or possibly Demba Ba if no one else

Carroll out- Ben Arfa in, possibly Ba as well

And a under 25 player from La Liga in as well ("marque signing")

Either you have far, far too much time on your hands or you have unbelievable sources.

Guess we'll see....


I dont support liverpool, i only come here to have a laugh and i nearly fell off my chari with the one about ba and cabaye. thanks for that


I simply don't believe you. Bulls***

cozinoz


Can the ED's put a breathalyzer in front of these peoples computers before some people can post!

RyanWhittington&hisCat


That's strange, I go to the Newcastle forum for my laughs :-)


Was interesting till i got to the carroll, cabaye, ba saga.
I seriously dont see BR depending on so many ifs and buts, plus leave it so late in the window. He has stressed he wants the players he needs earlier rather than later.
Rest pretty much makes sense.
Are we still hoping for a "marquee" signing? geez.
Piddy.


I'd be happy with a straight swap for Carroll and Cabaye


 

 

08 Aug 2012 21:32:43
Ed, is it more likely that Joe Cole is on his way out now that Suarez has had a wage increase? I'm also guessing there is a buy out clause in there now, is that likely?

BthekingB {Ed002's Note - I have no idea what he has in his contract. Right no Col appears to be staying.}


Please don't say that overweight cockney has been is staying, someone must be looking for a Tomas Brolin impersonator?


 

 

08 Aug 2012 21:11:49
Eds, any real intrest in walcott and do you think he'll be a good option {Ed002's Note - Macca says there is.}


Id love us to sign Walcott.


You heard anything about Walcott, Ed mate?

Thanks

Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96 {Ed002's Note - Nothing more than there appears to be interest. MAcca would be the guy to ask over this one.}


 

 

08 Aug 2012 20:46:16
Eds, iv heard that if madrid sign modric then alonso will be given the go ahead to make a reture. {Ed002's Note - Alonso stays - others leave.}


Please shut the hell up about Alonso. he will never come back so move the hell on please!


Can't people just move on, Xabi Alonso is not returning Liverpool anytime soon. It is getting boring now do us a favour LEAVE IT !


I wish people would stop hankering after Alonso. He was a great player for us but he's with a top team, settled back in his own country,and hugely paid.I don't believe we'll ever see him back at Anfield so forget him.

The Plank


 

 

08 Aug 2012 19:21:20
{Ed022's Note - There has been a brand new Player Profile posted on none other than Fernando Amorebieta of Athletic Bilbao. Now, as all of you Liverpool FC fans know, this guy is the very possible replacement for Daniel Agger - but is he of the same standard or even close to being as good as Agger is? This profile pretty much sums up Amorebieta, and I'm pretty sure compares both Agger and Amorebieta for you to cast your own judgments etc. Feel free to come on over to the site and drop a comment or two with your own thoughts - whether it be regarding Amorebieta, Agger or just Liverpools transfer dealings with this scenario. - www.player-profiles.co.uk - thanks all.}


If he's as good and cheaper then surely City and definetly Barca would have bought him instead?


He's terrible


Nowhere near Agger and have seen Kelly and Coates play better...was woeful in the two cup finals Bilbao played against Atletico and Barca...I'm hoping he's just a smokescreen...


 

 

08 Aug 2012 18:18:36
Eds, any chance of Adam Johnson? {Ed052's Note - If there is interest, he wants to come and City will sell yes.}


I thought the interest in Johnson originated from the Dalglish reign?

Am I the only one that think's he a bit too highly thought of?


No! His parents think he is overrated as well.....


We have a bid on the table for matt Jarvis from wolves believe we got a revolutionary twining deal led by their Scandinavian manager and we may get him for a nominal fee due to sell ons


Not any more then 9 mill for johnson


 

 

08 Aug 2012 14:59:38
As I mentioned yesterday, Adam Johnson is looking more and more likely to become a Liverpool player. The only way that I could see this deal falling through is if Man City demand more for him, due to the Agger situation. However, considering the City's money, and other players, I highly doubt that they would refuse a 15 million pound offer.

My sources have also said that Liverpool have agreed a fee with Joe Allen, although they couldn't find out how much the deal was. Clint Dempsey deal is off, due to Fulham asking for 10m+ for the player

Thanks,
RetroGuy33,


Whats the fascination with adam johnson, he`s been linked for over a year to liverpool on this site,mancini gave him chances but obviously doesn`t rate him cuz he never gets a run in the team, my personal opinion would be walcott or ramirez


So where is the logic in Adam Johnson £15mill whereas gaston Ramirez £16 mill...


Joe allen wont sign for liverpool,he wants to move to a big club {Ed052's Note - typo there mate - *will}


There is no way BR will sign AJ for £15 million .

EdWood


I like Johnson alright as he's got some talent, but honestly for ~£10-15M I'd rather have Dempsey. Less wages likely too and a more proven player. AJ could either end up being a legend or a total failure whereas I think Dempsey would be somewhere between very good and great.

RDL


Please be wrong about Johnson - totally average, and certainly no better than what we already have.


Why on earth would we pay 15mfor Johnson when clearly he isn't in there plans.and to be fair is very over rated when we could have Ramirez for around about the same price I know who personally would want in the team


I'd take £10m and Adam Johnson in exchange for Agger.

Dan


Don't want to be paying anywhere near £15 million for him. Badly overrated player.


So a bit part player for City has somehow doubled in value, even thought he doesn't play a lot, he hasn't progressed as a player, he has not done anything that would suggest his value is now 15m.

On the contrary he looks more like a 6m player as he hasn't shown any development or improvement from his Middlesbrough days.

Hope we stay well clear, we have bought enough over priced average players!

Dave


Adam johnson totally average?! only as good as what we have already... jesus, what are you on? a winger who takes men on, pace, goals, left and right, scores for england- only a non starter at club lvel cos of their 169 world class players... i would bite yr hand off for AJ more than any other english player bar none.


Johnson not worth 15 yet downing/henderson/carroll were? yes 15m is alot of money but in this day n age its peanuts! we wasted 60m last year on donkeys...im happy for 15 for johnson, ofcourse id like us to pay less but atleast we know he doesnt have to adapt to the prem!


AJ is like Downing. Sometimes shows real genius but far too often just fades into the background. If it does not go well in the first 10 mites his head goes down. No thanks we have enough of those.


Cash plus AJ for Agger. Yes please. Granted, Agger is quality but the creative attacking football Johnson would provide is exactly what we are missing. He scores goals too. No brainer.


A Johnson is good. Not a 15mil player but can you honestly blame City for charging us that after we bought the likes of Downing Henderson and Carroll for 20/35mil? Other teams now take us for fools. Laudrup saying Allen is 20mil? Please.


A Johnson is no better off the pitch as he is on it ! Bad lifestyle & big ego ...no thanks


If we bid 15mil for Adam Johnson then I seriously give up. He's incredibly patchy and is only being 'valued' that high because of the ridiculous 'English tax' on players in this country.


People wanting us to pay £15M for Johnson obviously didn't get their strange cravings satisfied last Summer and the previous January.


At the end of the day its not your money there spending so y do u all get worked up about the price


"I highly doubt that they would refuse a 15 million pound offer". I'm pretty sure you are right there mate. However I'm pretty sure Liverpool would not offer anything like £15m for Adam Johnson. Also not sure if it would change their transfer policy but selling Johnson would drop their 'Home Grown' allocation to under 8 HG players currently in their first team squad? They could of course promote a youth player but that doesn't seem like the City way.

MarkB.


If lfc cant offer 15m for ramirez, how on earth could they bid that for johnson?


 

 

08 Aug 2012 14:49:37
Agger will move to Barcelona with tello and 15m coming the other way


If thats true then thats a good deal mate...We badly need a forward and 15 million can get us a good replacement for Agger whose not as injury prone...


BR values Agger at 25-30 million so 15 plus affellay and tello would do it or 10 plus them 2.


Keeping dreamin boy...


This would be good business at the end of the day and then go and bid that money on amorbieta or godin


That beats him moving to City.


Not beyond the realms of possibility. The original link with Tello had him valued at 7m. So 15m + Tello would be a good deal for Agger, tbh. Tello is a talent and extremely quick. Which we will need to have for BR's tiqui-taca to work effectively.
I imagine getting Tello would also negate our interest in Walcott and perhaps allow us to spend the extra money on Ramirez.
I would personally rather have Tello and Ramirez than say Walcott and Johnson.

SpudRed


I would take 15 and tello


You do realize how sneaky Barca are, Im sure they would be willing to make the loss on Affelay but under no circumstances will they let Tello go that easily. Im sure a buy-back clause is right there in the case of Tello. Hence we mature him into a world star in say 2 seasons and then Barca snap him up..., all in all, our hard work, Barca's gain at the end of the day.
I am also rooting for Tello to join BUT only if Barca dont put a buy back clause in his contract. I wouldnt mind whether Affelay comes or not as personally i dont rate players who are really selfish as Affelay showed playing for Netherlands at the Euros...


Barca have been bitten by letting young players of theirs go before (see Fabregas) and now make sure there is a Real Madrid style buy-back clause in all the promising players they let go. If we got him, chances are that Barca would be able to buy him back for he exact same price (maybe slightly more) at any time they liked. Not a good situation to be in..


20m plus Tello with no buy-back...


 

 

08 Aug 2012 14:13:41
This is a 100% genuine post. I have just got back from Melwood after taking my little lad down to get some things signed. Daniel agger was first out this afternoon and stopped to sign things for the kids. While he was signing a programme for my lad I asked him if he was staying? He said he hoped so but didnt know what was going on. I asked him if he wanted to stay and he said yes but it was completely out of his hands. He then again said he wanted to stay but he couldnt do anything about it and it was not up to him. He genuinely seemed a bit down about the whole thing. I know he is not going to tell me the ins and outs of whats going on or tell me that he wants to go for the money or anything like that but he seemed genuine enough. I also noticed while I was talking to him that he has got Y.N.W.A tattooed across his fingers!!

Genuinely hope he stays, and genuinely hope Rodgers knows what he is doing.

Darsco {Ed001's Note - Agger has been up for sale for years, but only if the price was met, his injuries have always meant he couldn't be trusted to be available when it matters. Up till now, there has never been any interest in getting near his valuation. Now people are suddenly aware of what a great player he is, in those 47% or so of games he is fit for. Shame, because he is a genuinely likeable lad, but he will never play enough games and he probably won't play at a top level as long as he should because of them.}


Best to only play half the games well than nearly all of the games rubbish deffo looks like the club are trying to get shut dont believe all that rodgers bull on lfc tv hes gotta sell just hope he buys better than k.k


Last year was his best injury wise and wat i will say he is are ledly king and for me has to stay because of how good he is when fit we have to manage him just the way spurs did with king cheers

mike


Is barca and city not top level then?


Or us? Appearing in the Euros?


Think BR is right to sell him if we get 20m plus. Think about it - if we went out and spent 20m plus on a 27 year old centre half with a bad injury record would we as fans be happy? Don't think so


Ed001 said he won't play at the top for "as long as he should" due to injuries, not he won't play at the top at all..


Ed001, apart from being a slow healer, what other things does he have? last season was abit ok for him i think, not much of injuries that happen without any real contact. the broken rib cant be avoided, it was real damage just that he healed slowly, where as the other season he gets injured in training n stuff. from what i remember though, cant remember too much. without those injury problems though, i think he would be a very, very good defender, rarely see players like him.

Kaizer {Ed001's Note - he suffers with back problems, which are the root cause of the injuries he suffers. He will always suffer niggles, added to being a slow healer, extremely slow even, and that is a major issue.}


RE: Mike

I agree completely, it's just that if FSG know they have the chance to get +/-£23M out of him, they're going to do it and go for a great younger player who is just beneath, but in the future capable of being higher than, Agger's ability.

I've no idea who fits the bill. Eds, can you suggest anyone early twenties or younger with the potential I suggest above? Thanks for your work on the site, you guys rule.

SuperDuperSuarez

SuperDuperSuarez


They used to say the same about Van Persie and his injury record.

David


David, pretty sure that's why no-one has bought RVP yet. The price Arsenal want is way too much for a player with his injury problems. The older he gets the less time he spends acyually playing from here on in I think.

MarkB.


09 Aug 2012 10:37:13
MarkB
Are you saying that RVP will not find a new club by the start of the season fro the hefty price that Arsenal dictate? Btw, Arsenal and their fans would be ecstatic if he was still with them come the season kick-off. Wish we had an injury prone striker who could score as many as he did last year.


 

 

08 Aug 2012 13:30:09
Fulham want 12million for demsey more than 15 million euros. Al fayed is having a laugh.


Would have been a good signing, but well over priced for his age.


If this Demsey fella is half as good as Dempsey of Fulham then he'll be a cracking signing in my opinion.


I have a friend in france who is a massive liverpool fan.he says that liverpool are set to launch bids for etienne capoue and nicholos n koulou


Hope we tell them to go and f--k themselves.Tommy Irish Red.


Well if Liverpool are smart, they would just not bother with Dempsey again.


Al Fayed doesn't own Fulham.

JRG


Hopefully thats the end of this transfer speculation. Thankyou Alfayed for pricing him out. Was never keen personally.


Al fayed does own Fulham.


Personally, hope this works out as I would love to have Dempsey on our side.

RDL


Dempsey is a good, solid player who I would like at Liverpool but it has to be for 6/7 million, hes just not worth more than that at his age and in the last year of his contract..


Keep him he's only worth 6mil at most


Liverpool should just wait and get him next year as a free agent.


He should have put him in harrods shop window then before he sold he can stick him for that price only worth half that


Dempsey is a great player and certainly one that would improve us...but if not buying him means Carroll will stay then that's the smart move...


 

 

08 Aug 2012 13:16:42
Hey Ed,
Anfield Mole here from twitter for people not on twitter or following here is what I am hearing

Conor Coady off to Ipswich on loan
Contract on table for Agger but he wants escape clauses put in, we wont accept this so he either signs as is or we will sell.
We will only make move for Adam Johnson if other deals fall away.
We want Tello on full time deal but Barcelona want a buy back option in a season.
Loan offers for Sahin, Affelay and Callejon
Skrtel to sign new contract soon
Adam and Cole going no where {Ed049's Note - Interesting}


Nice to have you on board Anfield Mole. Follow on twitter and track record is very good.

Dirks Engine Room


So Sahin Allen Cole Adam Gerrard Shelvey Hendo Suso Lucas will all be playing for 3 positions? Seems a bit much don't it?

Gman


Could actually believe this hope agges signs a new contract aswelll and we buy an out and out striker


Very intesting.

Also, loan offers for two Real players. We can only get one. Callejon would be a better fit but Madrid may want to hold on to him. They too have a surplus of central midfielders and as such, I'd imagine, would prefer to loan out Sahin.

The Agger one is surprising, thought we would definitely be selling. And did not expect escape clauses to be an issue :-/.

Barca buy back option ha so typical with them. Hardly surprising.

ojay


And people always tell the truth on twitter from very " trusted " sources of course.

John B


Interesting indeed.

I follow Moley on twitter and he's very reliable from what I've read. His post should be taken seriously.

Papa G


Ed023 can confirm it is me {Ed049's Note - Yes he did confirm it.}


Ugh, he's spread to here.


I think we should sell cole because of the money he gets, there in no point paying him all that money if he is going to be on the bench most of the season.


Cheers for that Mole,

Barcelona insist on a buy back clause on all of the kids/rising stars that they decide to sell. They do this as an alternative to sending them out on loan.

This is how they managed to sign Jordi Alba for 13m Euros.

J


Let's hope agger signs then as He is a class act dan


Thanks, would love to hear more. (not that i know he is reliable or not, but until he is proven otherwise, then ill just keep in mind what he said.)

Kaizer


Hope your right with your info apart from Cole and lazy arse Adam, the sooner those two and Spearing are booted out the better for the club


Its not a choice between: Sahin Allen Cole Adam Gerrard Shelvey Hendo Suso Lucas, cole will be on the wing, suso wont get a chance, plus shelvey could well go on loan. there fore we would have 6 players for 3 places, 2 for each, and thats if adam stays, and sayin we get sahin an allen.


Adam & Cole have been going nowhere for years. And I don't mean transfer-wise.


Agger to be sold, and Cole and Adam staying.

Our new start didn't last long, did it?


Barcelona can do one with their buyback offers, if you sell a player then you cant always have him back once he comes good. jeez


I don't believe one is allowed to sign two players from the same club on loan.

In this case Sahin and Callejon would not both be coming. From the looks of it, there's no chance of Sahin if he turned Spurs down twice this week.

Why are we trying to sign 4 wingers when we need a centre back?! I don't mean in place of Agger, I mean as back-up...GOOD back-up, cos Kelly, Carra and Coates ain't gonna cut it if either of our tattooed warriors get injured this season for a prolonged time.


You CAN sign two loan players from the same club (as has been repeatedly said on here over the last few weeks/months) as long as at least one of them has a buy option built into the loan.


This is some silly stuff: "So Sahin Allen Cole Adam Gerrard Shelvey Hendo Suso Lucas will all be playing for 3 positions? Seems a bit much don't it?"

Cole doesn't play central midfield, neither does Suso. and Gerrard could easily play as part of the front 3.

Allen-Lucas-Sahin as the starting 3

Hendo, Adam and Shelvey in reserve, Gerrard can also drop back from the attack if needed.

Simple.


"I don't believe one is allowed to sign two players from the same club on loan.

In this case Sahin and Callejon would not both be coming. From the looks of it, there's no chance of Sahin if he turned Spurs down twice this week.

Why are we trying to sign 4 wingers when we need a centre back?! I don't mean in place of Agger, I mean as back-up...GOOD back-up, cos Kelly, Carra and Coates ain't gonna cut it if either of our tattooed warriors get injured this season for a prolonged time."

This ranks as one of the daftest posts I've ever read. From start to finish, just daft.


 

 

08 Aug 2012 13:13:43
No worries doubt anyone is going to offer 25m for Agger.
Man City is not willing to go upto that level no is Barca but both may offer cash + players.

Man Cit'y offers were not 20M it was close to 16M.
LFC knows City paid closed to 30M for both Milner and Lescott each.
So
Man City has to cough up 25M+/20M + player deal to make LIverpool consider selling him which I highly doubt.
Barca is hopeful of getting Song and is going to be cheaper compared to LFC's Agger valuation. That leaves

So at the end of the day hopefully both Agger and Skrtell will sign new deals.

Don't expect LFC to splash 15M + on any player in this window unless Carrolll or Agger (unlikely) leaves and we get an inflow of cash.
Though Allen may cost close to that element.

And on Ramirez he is at this moment of time a less priority though the interest has been there. More rather his agent talking of LFC interest to get more interest.
My Ramirez knowleged is based on info from Ramirez side not from LFC side. But recently got to talk of some from LFC and things became little clear on the matter.

Cheers
Armando


Glad you're not negotiating on behalf of the club. Glad you have no say in purchasing. You talk like you have insight but offer no explanation. Equally I don't. But I'm not the one on here assumptions as to lfc's purchasing power nor to their breaking point in terms of selling.

Swish


You know gaston's agent then ?


Why do you still post, you're just as bad as Daniel Haliwell.


Didnt know Song was a CB ,although Barca did the same with Mascherano ;)


 

 

08 Aug 2012 12:36:41
Worrying statement from BR - "Daniel is a top player and you do not want to lose your best players. He has been here seven years. He loves the club and its supporters. But every player has his price and we will see where it goes."

Not sure I like the way BR handles transfer speculation. If a player is one of the best in the team (and best in the world in their position), loved by the fans (as he is) and loves being at the club; he should be issuing a hands off warning, not inviting bids matching "his price".

PK


I'm sorry if city put a bid in of 22m I'd bite there hand off, maybe a cash plus player. Agger is class however injured every season and for long period too.


He said EVERY player has his price. So it doesn't exclude anyone.


I understand you're point mate, considering we usually do business behind closed doors its rather worrying that all of our transfer dealings have managed to be leaked! however I do believe BR is an honest fella and I would'nt be to bothered if Agger left, he will only get worse"injuries" in years to come and we know he cant be depended on to play 5 in a row even now so at 20million plus from a business point of view its the correct time to cash in.. not forgetting we have Coates kelly who can play there in future, we will reinvest also with either Zapata/ambroietta or Godin Kajer, all for 10million figures, bargain considering ability.


Yo dude settle down he only said that to boost the $$$$$ aggers is going nowhere !!


The 20 we get for agger i wud buy 2 of them listed cuz carr is on his last legs now


He is great player, and I wouldnt want him to leave, but I dont think there is anything wrong or worrying in what BR has said, he is being honest....if he issues a "Hands off" or he isnt going anywhere statement..then he is sold...whats your opinion then? I'm sure we would have all sorts of nonsence comments about being betrayed by BR, and FSG not knowing what there doing etc etc. Just my thoughts.

Al


He said EVERY player has his price. So it doesn't exclude anyone.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Don't be so naive mate, it was clearly about Agger.

I think this confirms that we don't actually have any money and need to sell to buy. He has seen that Carroll and Agger can be replaced and will bring in a lot of money. That's why he hasn't ruled out their leaving, like he did with Suarez when he first came in.

I'd be gutted to see Agger go but for £22mil, it's money we need right now for other players. Bit gutting really.


On the other hand, if he'd had said Agger is not for sale for any price, then three days later sells him, imagine how much abuse would be thrown his way for being a liar.
Tom


There is nothing worrying about what he said - Agger is on the market and if a club wants him then will have to pay for him....Liverpool have been taken to the cleaners in the transfer market for years and people bitch and moan about that, now he's saying that Agger is gonna cost potential buyers serious cash and people bitch and moan......he's injury prone and misses too many games a season so its makes more sense to take £20m and buy a more reliable injury free player.

Better players than Daniel Agger have come and gone...believe me!


He's being a realist. A 20m+ bid for a player with a poor injury record is VERY good business. yes Agger is our best centreback, but he can't affect the games from the treatment table.


You dont know what they value each player at they might value agger at around 25-30 million


Although I'd be sad to see Agger leave either way as I think he's been a great player for the club in terms of performance and attitude, I would get over us selling him if a suitable replacement is signed. The difficulty for me, is that I don't believe Liverpool will sign or will be able to sign a replacement of his class (Godin would be a good replacement - but this realistically won't happen). I don't think any defender we have been linked to would be as good, so why sell a world class player.

PK


This is bulls***! losing agger and bellamy, two of our best players. gutted.


I would be sad to see Agger go, especially to a rival, but I take your point.However I believe everyone is looking at the negative side of things which seems to be the way with LFC fans lately. You could read anything into what he said and the press will always take the sensational angle,true or not.
CR


Problem is we'll get decent money for a class player and go waste it on 2 average players!! This is 1 worried red


Stop with all the negativity! There is no way Agger is worth over £20M so if City or Barca are prepared to pay that then off he goes in my opinion. Money can be used a lot more wisely to strengthen the defence with 2 CB's.


Did you actually watch the press conference? Your quote is not a fair reflection of what BR said at all - I'm not going to start writing it out because he actually spoke at length about Agger - go watch it properly mate - he didn't welcome the idea of Agger being sold at all and said he was a very important player for Liverpool. Do we really need to start misrepresenting our own managers comments? Not very helpful.


We are LFC and should not be a selling club unless a rediculous offer is made and the player wants to go. In the case of DA, this should be no less than £30m......

If we really do have intentions of being successful we should not be selling our best players.

BR, you are at LFC now, not Swansea.


To all the people saying imagine the abuse if he was sold - the fact he has covered his back on this front clearly shows that it is extremely feasible that he will be sold.

PK


To be fair, the full statement is up on the lfc website now, and its not half as bad as the likes of talksport made it seem.


Actually I was surprised to hear BR become the 1st Liverpool manager ever to commit suicide on air.If his standing with a lot of fans was doubtful this will have the effect of having a LOT more fans turn against him. He's at the top of a slippery slope public relations wise and one more false step could see his reputation with the fans badly damaged before we've played a single league game.


BR said exactly the right thing. To many player think they are irreplaceable. They aren't. They are a tradeable commodity and every player has a price.


Agger averages 25 games a season in his Liverpool career.

Carra averages 47 games a season in the same period.

If Man City (or whoever) want to pay silly money for him, then that is great for us. We all know Agger is a top class player, but no player is any good if they spend nearly 50% of the time in the treatment room.


How many times has agger played since he`s been here - work it out season on season - injured far too often - if someone come in with 20m - then sell him


BR is a no nonsence kind of guy. It seems to me that he wants the players to want to play for the club, in the same vain that he would only move to Liverpool if he were first choice. He won't mooch around anyone to try and convince them to stay. Yes it was about Agger, but its a philosophy that extends to everyone in the team; commit to the team or otherwise move on. He knows we can't tempt players with big money (FSG 'philosophy' on responsible spending) so he wants the players to be there out of old fashioned loyalty.

Admire him for that.

ZimRobRed


I agree with the majority here. Agger is a great player but for £20m or more it's a great deal for Liverpool. Players come and go, but if they are going to go at any point surely that point is when someone offers stupid money. I'm just glad BR is actually being sensible and not talking bulls*** or getting annoyed with reporters, he's telling it how it is. Can you imagine Kenny Dalglish being asked the same question? He would have ripped the interviewers head off!

MarkB.


Well i do so leave BR the Liverpool manager to do his job


BR is just playing hardball with Aggers agent who is trying to up his contract talks, we all know he dosent want to leave. BR gor slaughtered for saying the same about Carroll but when it comes down to it if a player wants to leave why stand in his way everyone has their price, i have been very happy with the way BR has dealt with everything so far


I don't think Brendan has a clue what he's doing. I don't think FSG are good owners. No money for transfers. No new players. Our best players constantly touted for a move away from Anfield. Now Standard Charter is linked with massive money to Iran. It looks a total mess to me and it won't get better it'll get much worse.


I reckon Brendan Rogers will be gone before the end of this season. He'll quit. Wait and see.


I do not find it worrying. Agger is a good player but hasn't always been defensively sound. He has an horrendous injury record too. 20 million sounds good to me. So don't be worried mate.


Bite their hand off for 20 million and use carra and coates


Didn't take long for the toxic atmosphere to return after yesterdays breath of fresh air did it?

Jesus wept....


Agger would be a massive loss to us what replacement could we get. carra nooo way to slow .does rogers know what he is doing there are players that have left liverpool and not been replaced we need to buy quick bells going to cardiff they all need replaced thats 3 players gone that score goals and if agger goes i think that makes us look like a selling club why not sell spearing adam getting pissed off with these americans now they are making us look like a joke {Ed052's Note - The owners are being supportive - and replacements will be brought in in due course}


BR said we were in no need to sell any players, and they are working on several new ones.
But hey, forget about that, he is probably lying.
Long live the negativity.


This isn't worrying at all. Saying every player has a price is true for any club, Messi maybe the exception to the rule though. I work in the motor trade and have a my own car which I'm doing work on but if someone offers the right price for it I will sell it even though I love it. Same goes for football though the player is not an object you have to be prepared to sell at the right price to buy new players unless your Chelsea and City with super rich owners who are willing to chuck money at them.


Can`t believe a lot of people on here are happy to see agger go to man city just for cash,we need to try and catch up with these teams not help them pull further away from us, if he`s going please let it be barca


I have already posted this a while back im worried liverpool will become a selling club

adamlfc


Agree 100%, not exactly instilling confidence in the players or the fans. Beeb also reporting Bellamy on his way too. When are we going to get players in ? Surely before we let any more go ????


The yanks dont wanna flash the cash after k.k wasted it last year


Every player in every team knows this to be true. All fans know this to be true.

Players have a price, managers have a price, even the whole club itself has a price. Why is this surprising to anyone?


I'm worried about our back 4 if Agger leaves. Srktel is not stable and tends to make elementary mistakes. I'm very worried about him holding the defence. Carra? I think he is a shadow of his former self. I will be VERY, very. very worried if he is our first choice CB.


Right i thorght my friends and family (lfc) were inteligent . just think about what br is doing he is pure geniuse . we finnished embaracing last season with quality players real quality any team would wish for . this is a game br is playin and i for one already love him because its what i would do . these players were to comfortable thats why we finnished 8th . ask urself how would you shake them all up take them out of there comfort zone make them prove they are worth there place and if they dont prove an show how much they want it . mission accoplished . downing was nervouse and needs confidence thats why he is not being shaken up it would destroy his confidence . now please tellme this becomes a little more clear br in a masterclass . in a leauge of his own . just connect the dots people


Trie replying to a similar post last night but dropped iPhone and it probably either didn't get posted or was only half finished. Anyway, BR says every player has a price, People who say that "excludes no-one" are absolutely spot on. He also said if someone came in with that price they would consider the offer and do the best thing for the club. That could mean accepting the offer or rejecting it if that's what's best for the club. Let's not get worked up into a frenzy when none of us can possibly know what's happening!


RE: Right i thorght my friends and family (lfc) were inteligent

Couldn't agree more. Wish people would open their eyes and behold the new Paisley


Why does everyone have to be so negative, same old same old, quite boring really. i agree that i would be gutted to see agger leave, however he is quite injury prone and 20 million would be a good price, although i wouldnt be happy in man city having him! but hey, lets gibe brendan our support, he done a wicked job with swansea over the last two seasons so we all need to back him and have less talk of him quiting by the end of the season(person). im behind him 100% and i know alot more fans are also. so i reckon, this might be difficult for some people, we should all be positive, see who we sign and back our club all the way. that would be the right thing thing to do. ynwa


I can't get my head around some people on here moaning about Brendan Rodgers already! He's been in the job five minutes, inherited a squad that finished 8th (outside the top 4 in the last 3 years) with a wage budget that is within the top 4 or 5 clubs in the league.

So far he's sold Kuyt, Aquilani, Maxi and Fabio Aurelio. They have a combined age of 123. He's letting Bellamy go as well and he's 33. It's blatantly obvious those players had to go before we take on any more, given that's probably reduced the wage bill by about 200-300k a week it makes even more sense.

So first job done. Reduce the wage bill.

Secondly, our best players will always be attracting interest from other clubs. Agger is reportedly attracting interest from Man City and Barcelona, both of which can easily afford to pay £20m plus for him and that's his value to Brendan Rodgers and Liverpool as a minimum. By the next transfer window he'll be 28 so if we are to maximise our money on Agger we have to seriously consider selling him now. Rodgers is only saying what is true, realistic and good for the club. Carroll is another player that realistically we can easily afford to sell if the right price is offered for him. Even if we had only signed him for £20m there is no getting away from the fact he's underperformed since arriving here. I think that £20m is his top end market value, now and when we overpaid for him. So if someone comes in with the right offer it makes sense to sell him despite the fact I think he could still hit top class form again.

Next on the list; Brendan Rodgers has tied down our best player to a long term contract. I don't hear the whingers praising this great move for LFC?

On the subject of his signings so far he's signed a kid for the youth team and he's bought Fabio Borini, a player that for £10m represents a low risk, known quantity for Rodgers. Borini understands the way Rodgers wants his teams to play and has a good scoring record, especially at just 21 years of age. He's scored 15 goals in 37 league matches so far. That's incredible for £10m. One goal in every 2.5 games roughly.

Finally he's blooded lots of youth players in the pre-season and won his only competitive match without conceding, away in Belarus against a team that was 15 games into their season already, with hardly any time to evaluate his players.

Not a bad start at all in my opinion.

MarkB.


I can't get my head around some people on here moaning about Brendan Rodgers already! He's been in the job five minutes, inherited a squad that finished 8th (outside the top 4 in the last 3 years) with a wage budget that is within the top 4 or 5 clubs in the league.

So far he's sold Kuyt, Aquilani, Maxi and Fabio Aurelio. They have a combined age of 123. He's letting Bellamy go as well and he's 33. It's blatantly obvious those players had to go before we take on any more, given that's probably reduced the wage bill by about 200-300k a week it makes even more sense.

So first job done. Reduce the wage bill.

Secondly, our best players will always be attracting interest from other clubs. Agger is reportedly attracting interest from Man City and Barcelona, both of which can easily afford to pay £20m plus for him and that's his value to Brendan Rodgers and Liverpool as a minimum. By the next transfer window he'll be 28 so if we are to maximise our money on Agger we have to seriously consider selling him now. Rodgers is only saying what is true, realistic and good for the club. Carroll is another player that realistically we can easily afford to sell if the right price is offered for him. Even if we had only signed him for £20m there is no getting away from the fact he's underperformed since arriving here. I think that £20m is his top end market value, now and when we overpaid for him. So if someone comes in with the right offer it makes sense to sell him despite the fact I think he could still hit top class form again.

Next on the list; Brendan Rodgers has tied down our best player to a long term contract. I don't hear the whingers praising this great move for LFC?

On the subject of his signings so far he's signed a kid for the youth team and he's bought Fabio Borini, a player that for £10m represents a low risk, known quantity for Rodgers. Borini understands the way Rodgers wants his teams to play and has a good scoring record, especially at just 21 years of age. He's scored 15 goals in 37 league matches so far. That's incredible for £10m. One goal in every 2.5 games roughly.

Finally he's blooded lots of youth players in the pre-season and won his only competitive match without conceding, away in Belarus against a team that was 15 games into their season already, with hardly any time to evaluate his players.

Not a bad start at all in my opinion.

MarkB.


 

 

08 Aug 2012 12:13:18
Eds any truth in the rumour that we are looking to move on Brad Jones(Norwich) & Doni(Brazil) and bring in Butland ? {Ed002's Note - There is reported interest in Jones from Norwich. Doni was due to return to Brazil in January and Liverpool had been looking at a Brazilian goal keeper. I am not sure what is happening with Butland but would think if he moves he would want first team football.}


Put Pepe on the bench and he can have first team football!


New back up keeper will be De Vries from Wolves


I thought we were getting De Vries as back up for Pepe.
CR


BR knows wat he is doing so let him do his job,& let us do our job,i.e. question his ability,integrity to our club...

holy_red


Would a buy to loan move be unlikely ed?

Gman {Ed052's Note - For who sorry mate?}


Ed 02, and what if we provide him that First Team football by allowing to play in all Cup Competitions while Reina plays EPL and Europa matches with Butland playing the occasional 1 or 2 matches in Europe??.
Pls dont tell me we cant do that because we can and it will defo suit Butland....I agree it depends on if we have interest in him(i believe we are favourites to sign him if we do), but if he wants first team football, we can offer it with ease for a keeper of his calibre...btw, after seeing some clips of him, i dont think Gulacsi(spelling) can match him.... {Ed002's Note - I have no idea how he would feel about such a deal.}


Whos the Brazilian GK we have been looking at ed? {Ed002's Note - This was a while back - Rafael.}


Doni has left the club!!


 

 

08 Aug 2012 11:20:18
Eds do you think that Carroll will be offloaded this season? {Ed002's Note - There has to be a good chance.}


Wow i hope so, ill be able to relax once he's gone

Don


 

 

08 Aug 2012 11:19:57
Quick question eds,

Do you see sahin as a likely signing even if we sign allen? Also do you think he would be permanent or loan? We all know there was interest before he signed for Madrid so this could be possible, excellent player that he is I dont see the room for buying two central mid players unless we sell yet more players, not as if aquilani really needed replacing is it.

Dr. Mario {Ed002's Note - I would doubt both would arrive. Sahin has had injury problems this year but rumours do persist about his long term future. He has been angling for a move to AC Milan who are being cautious in the market or a return to Germany (with Bayern Munich). A move to Besiktas has been rejected although Galatasaray would like to take him to Turkey. There is confirmed interest from Spurs, Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester United. Malaga also spoke to Madrid about the possibility of a loan. I understand that Miguel Pardeza would like to see a sale.}


 

 

08 Aug 2012 10:46:40
Is there a chance we could sign both allen and sahin? are we still looking at vargas? {Ed002's Note - I would expect Allen to sign - Sahin is attracting interest from a number of clubs. There has certainly been sustained interest in Vargas but I am not sure it will go anywhere.}


 

 

08 Aug 2012 09:35:58
hey is there any real interest in Gaston Ramirez or just rumours?and do you think he would be a good addition for liverpool coz he didn't impress at all during the olympics :/ {Ed002's Note - This has been dealt with on numerous occasions - please use the search function.}


I think we were only interested as a replacement for luis.


Gaston was played out of pososion under the olympics... watch some of bolognas matches last year, gaston would be a great addition to any squad...


Gaston Ramirez will join up with his friend Luis Suarez at Liverpool fc by the end of the transfer window. Godin as well if Agger leaves.


I dont think so, I think LFC have looked at him, and the media have gone mad with it, and supporters have wanted it to happen so people been going on about it. Kind of like
Mata last summer. This is what I've gathered from what the eds have said, and they know a lot more than we do. I don't think it will happen, I think he's just one of a lot of players that LFC have looked at.


Steady on? By the time we lay our hands on Ramirez and pick up Cavani and Godin plus we already have Coates and Suarez. How the hell are we going to cope when they are on international duty?


 

 

08 Aug 2012 02:40:13
Heard of interest in Botia of Sporting Gijon. Don't really know much about him. Can you elaborate on this Ed's?
Thanks guys. {Ed002's Note - Sorry, I know nothing of it.}


Barcelona have a buy back clause in botias contract with gijon so even if there is interest they will get the chance to get him first


 

 

08 Aug 2012 01:25:07
Hey eds, Macca said we have some interest in 4 players, and Tello was mentioned. How close or far away are we from getting Tello? Is it likely to be a loan with an option to buy, and with a typical Barca buy-back clause? {Ed002's Note - Barcelona have no immediate plans for the player under the new manager. I understand that there remains a slim chance of a loan deal to Ajax as part of a deal for another player but I suspect he will leave rather than head to the B team. My understanding is that general enquiries about the player's availability have been made by Porto, Seville, Malaga and Liverpool. Discussions about loans of one type or another have been raised by Valencia, Ajax and Atletico Madrid. I also understand that Benfica have now made a proposal to Barcelona - but I don't know what it is. So there is clear interest from Liverpool.}


 

 

08 Aug 2012 08:26:52
Eds.after seeing the martin jol interview yesterday on ssn he said he needs new strikers and midfielders he named all his current strikers at club and Dempsey was not mentioned once do u think lpool deal is still on {Ed002's Note - DEmpsey will leave - there has never been any question about it.}


Dempsey said he wanted CL football before he gets too old. No chance at Liverpool the guy is 29.........


Well by 30 he might just get CL, there is always a possibility, believe my friend, believe.

Kaizer


 

 

08 Aug 2012 07:46:10
Hi ED's what do you think of Berbatov going for 4 mill. Do you think he would be worth bringing here.

Simoky {Ed002's Note - No.}


Let the utd players stay at utd or at least away from our club


How about 'no'?


All i can say is, if he leaves for four million, it won't cause half the fuss that AC has. even though the loss would be even bigger.


Why would he want to go from the best team in england, to a team struggling to get in the europa league? dont be daft, he'll go to a team in the champions league!
duggo


United will lose £28 million pounds on him in TWO years, bet theres not even a mention of it in the Fergie controlled UK press. Hes a good player but was only bought to prevent someone else getting him at the time. Typical United tactic used for a number of years


 

 

07 Aug 2012 19:26:11
Is it true that Dempsey is going to Roma? If so then will we turn our attention to Ramirez? I read that, a few people were mentioning Quaresma. To be frank, I've never even heard of him. Also, I read Laudrup wants £20m for Allen. IMO we shouldn't go for him at such a high price. Would rather have Sahin on loan with an option to buy at the end of the season. He's only 23. What are your thoughts, ed002?

THE SUMON VAI {Ed002's Note - Roma and Wolfsburg are interested as are Liverpool.}


To be frank if you never even heard of Quaresma I wouldnt care what you have to say about players...bet you have never seen Sahin play in your life!


Never heard of quaresma? what age are u son? have u been living undera rock for the past 10 years.


Never heard of Quaresma Wow you really need to start playing Football Manager


 

 

07 Aug 2012 18:45:34
edds 02 now that louis has signed extention or improved contract does this put an end to juve or is this all to pump up his price cheers

mike {Ed002's Note - It means that Juventus' offer will be turned down.}


Will they still make an offer ed. {Ed002's Note - I am not sure that they will. They are still after two forwards and have this morning registered interest in Llorente.}


What more does Suarez have to do before people accept that he's happy here and is staying?


"Suarez signs 10 year contract and says I want to see out my career at Anfield.I love it here and so does my family.I'm totally happy!"

Post appears on "Transfer Rumours" reading that Suarez is a lying git and has asked for a transfer to Everton.

In other words there will always be people on here who are only happy when they're moaning.


 

 

08 Aug 2012 07:32:43
OOOOOOOOOOHHHHH Liverpool official page still down big news on the way or did the cleaner unplug the server whilst hoovering! In better news 1 more medal than Beijing!! {Ed029's Note - It looks like it must have been the latter as it seems to be fine now and the news items haven't changed since last night. Still last night was fantastic news and the Olympians have indeed been doing us proud}


Site back up but no news, its about LS signing the new contract


 

 

08 Aug 2012 06:16:03
A good source tells me Andy Carrol is off to newcastle with yohan cabaye coming to us. Eds have you heard anything about this possiable deal? {Ed049's Note - No}


Just how many midfield players do you think liverpool need


Cabaye will not come to Liverpool imo.


!st part yes,2nd bull


 

 

08 Aug 2012 01:53:16
Joe Allens medical is scheduled for Thursday, he will be at Anfield for the Europa game. not to play, obviously.


 

 

08 Aug 2012 01:40:17
Liverpool website not working

announcing a signing perhaps(allen)

red bird
{Ed049's Note - not necessarily}


The website would not go down if you are updating a page, it will show the page until the user presses upload.


You don't have to shut the website down to add a new post. Football-rumours would be down 20 hours a day of this was the case. Please stop getting excited when the page doesn't load

Merka


Yeah could mean a big signing and there is to much data to fit into website, maybe Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink!! Dear me some people.


 

 

08 Aug 2012 01:34:27
Sorry to say this but I have just learnt that agger is probably on the verge of a move today

Mo


Shouldn't you be concentrating on the 5000m?


"Shouldn't you be concentrating on the 5,000m " - Brilliant mate, you did make me chuckle..


 

 

08 Aug 2012 00:38:10
Talk that Liverpool are monitoring Watford starlet Sean Murray who attracted a lot of premiership clubs, he turned down a move to Man City 2 years ago when he was 16 and has impressed since as he broke into the first team in January claiming many goals and assists, he has proven worthy in man of the match performances against spurs and is on the verge of Ireland's national side


Fantastic young talent better than sterling hope this is true was watfords best player second half of last season scoring 7 and setting up 7 in 19 appearances


Somebody posted the same thing yesterday but added we were about to pay £7.5 million for him.The kid may be talented but I doubt we'll pay anything like that sum.If we do decide to go after him.

The Plank


Hey eds, great site, this is my 1st post. Allen will sign before monday, negotiations are at an advanced stage, ramirez will not be signing, expect more interest in walcott as soon as allen has signed, heard there will be a big money move out of the club (not sure if it's agger) but will not happen until late in the window, that money will be used to buy walcott and 1 more player, most likely a replacement for whoever leaves.


 

 

08 Aug 2012 00:03:28
Agger goes tommorow folks! Barcelona. David Villa is coming to us on loan. Allen and Ramirez will hopefully be sorted by the end of the week... Walcott wants the move, could do well for his own club that lad, its looking good on the inside! hope to hear more soon
enjoy
AJM


Villa + Allen + Ramirez + Walcott? Oooooooooooooh yes please!!


I also heard that we were in swap deal messi for lucas


Wow get a grip! Villa no chance and Walcott no chance.


No Messi for downing...lol...


Haha! im running out of air, you'd struggle to get joe allen, never mind villa!
thanks for making my day, always a laugh reading the scousers page.....
duggo


David Villa on loan? Put down the drugs you mook!

Tomaldo


Haahahhaahahahhaaahahh


 

 

07 Aug 2012 23:29:11
Hey guys, Agger has stated that he wants to stay put, Man City defo are after him or Skrtel... BR is willing to lose Skrtel for A Johnson and some extra cash in return.. Dempsey still in the balance as C Adam was going to be part of a swap deal however the player doesn't want to move and Fulham have no interest for him...YNWA


Agger may want to stay but it seems like the club are quite happy to cash in on him.
Me thinks that once he see's the wages offered he'll be off.

dmedly


Skertel and Agger are a brilliant partnership. Need to hand on to both. City don't have any character in their club, soulless


No you heard wrong it messi plus 12 million for spearing on loan


 

 

07 Aug 2012 23:20:55
Henoc Mukendi confirming via Twitter that he is on short term (til January) loan to Northampton Town.
Cheers guys,
ForzaRed


No offence to the guy and I've only seen him once or twice but he was awkward and pretty poor. Hopefully he'll find his way in the lower leagues.


And no one actually cares about that


Very telented goalkeepings in mould of Peppy Raina, will be good at Northhampton and come back to be first team next year

-Ibnan


 

 

 
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