10 Jul 2015 09:56:13
Some of the older posters may remember a post of mine around 18 months ago about my son being out with a group of friends and ending up in Liverpool City Center having a drink straight after a game ( a loss if I remember )with a Liverpool player and his friends.
At the time I didn't reveal who the player was, because even though I wasn't happy about a player being out straight after a defeat, I didn't want to out him because he was a young player and we all make mistakes, but without naming him now, I'm pretty sure most of you can now guess who it was. Once a wrong'un always a wrong'un.
10 Jul 2015 10:49:45
And when else would you expect players to go out apart from after a match?
Would you prefer them to get tanked up the night before a match like they used to 40 years ago. I seem to remember in the 60ß's Liverpool were known for being particularly rubbish on boxing day and after new year?
Do you expect players from rubbish teams to wait until summer to go out again because they keep losing?
10 Jul 2015 11:13:10
I remember that past of yours. I had assumed it was Henderson, but obviously you mean Sterling.
10 Jul 2015 11:18:40
I don't understand - they are paid to play football, if you have an unproductive day at your job your life still goes on as normal.
10 Jul 2015 11:31:16
It was AG, the other fella, so getin on the piss with the lads straight after being beaten is OK in your book? We've got very different ideas on player etiquette, is it any wonder we are were we are with the attitude of some of our so called supporters. Unbelievable.
10 Jul 2015 11:52:23
I think a couple of these people replying are forgetting that these guys are professional athletes. Taste of decency aside, no athlete having a drink after a losing takes his career seriously.
10 Jul 2015 11:55:02
Forza, see the reply given, to the first poster. If I have an unproductive day at work I could accidentally kill somebody and end up in jail for 5years, and I'm only getting 35k a year. If a player has an unproductive day he can just go home to his £4million mock Georgian and have a money fight with his mates in the games room. Do you see were those comparisons fall down? Your not stupid of course you do but you will gloss over it to suit your post.
10 Jul 2015 12:14:39
I went on a night out in Liverpool a year or so again, was in a bar called Republik celebrating a friends birthday when we seen Sterling (who you're obviously referring to) out with a friend. He came in and just kind of stood there with his friend with a drink in his hand, no dancing or having fun, just standing there. I got a picture with him, being a drunken fan and all. I believe that same day we had lost too. If I was getting paid what he was I would've been in the VIP area with a bottle of Grey Goose! Must have been upset about his lack of money (sarcasm)
10 Jul 2015 12:36:21
A lot of English players are the same.
I have a great story about Andy Carroll that I can't share on here, no way will the eds post it.
{Ed001's Note - there are hundreds of stories about players that I am unable to post sadly, some managers as well. They really do not live the life of a professional athlete in the main.}
10 Jul 2015 13:16:09
They never have Ed001.
There always was a drinking culture at Liverpool, even and especially during the glory days. Good job there wasn't camera phones and social media back then.
Jimmy Case remarked in his book that no one could believe that Kenny Dalglish did not drink when he joined Liverpool. Think it was after the 77 Charity Shield.
It is just part of British / Irish culture generally, like it or not, that remains ingrained in many of our team sports particularly.
What's the difference really if he was in a bar, in the Player's Lounge, or at home with family or friends ?
They're going to do it. Unless the club puts an outright ban on alcohol.
Has any club done that ?
{Ed001's Note - it is a shame because it is why the British teams are dropping so far behind, well not the only reason, but it is a big part of the problem. Most cultures don't have the pathetic drink until you can no longer stand up, get in a fight, vomit everywhere, then go home via peeing in shop doorways culture England has.
I don't know of any club putting an outright ban on alcohol long term, they usually ban it during preseason.}
10 Jul 2015 13:16:52
The only free time that players get is straight after a match and few drinks is hardly going to get him disciplined. It is the fact that he is partial to being photographed with laughing gas and his overall attitude which will be his downfall.
{Ed001's Note - a few drinks might not get him disciplined but it does affect the body's recovery after exercise and explain why he is unable to manage a full season without needing a holiday. That is why Shanks, and many other managers of his era, used to try and marry off their young players, to try and get them to settle down and not go out on the lash so much.}
10 Jul 2015 13:19:16
Man go's out for a drink after a rubbish day in work FML
10 Jul 2015 13:20:55
C'mon Waro you are talking about 20 year old men! I understand that they earn huge amounts and are seen as role models but they are still young men so talking to women and having a beer with your friends on a Saturday is something they will naturally want to do regardless of their job. I don't understand why the defeat makes much difference either you can lose a game even if you've tried your hardest not to and played out of your skin!
Gerrard, Rooney, Wilshire the list goes on they have all be spotted in bars at various times throughout their career and in my opinion as long as they are behaving responsibly then why should you have an issue
{Ed001's Note - all 3 you have listed have got into trouble over their off field activities and are hardly a good choice to hold up as making it ok to drink. The three of them are knobs on the bevvies and are lucky they are professional footballers or they wouldn't have got away with half the crap they have.}
10 Jul 2015 13:43:40
In reply to some of the posts, it wasn't a few beers and a quiet chat to unwind, my lad said he was getting the champagne in and generally acting like a flash toe rag, my son left around 1 I think he said at the time because his behavior was irritating him, as my son had been to the game that day aswell and was of the same opinion as me " should he be out acting the big un ", straight after a game, god knows what time he stayed out until and judging by recent photos what he got up to.
10 Jul 2015 16:44:38
Didi and carra regularly went out drinking after games though t nobody could say they were never gutted after a defeat but sometimes you have to move on. In saying that they were established players not 19 years old trying to find consistency. That aside I had a mate who worked in sterlings school before he moved up to Liverpool. He was meant to have been trouble at a young age. Just what I heard.
10 Jul 2015 17:12:20
If Sterling wants to be our best paid player he should do whatever he can to get as good as possible. I an sure ronaldo never drinks like that in a season, and that's why he is the best in the world. Rooney could probably be at the same level, but never was professional enough. Seems like sterling has the same attitude, with less talent.
10 Jul 2015 18:20:23
19 year old "men" don't drink like the Brits do in France, Spain, Italy, Germany etc etc.
big problem in our culture with drink. Regardless of if your an athlete or not.
10 Jul 2015 19:05:47
No offence but this thread is rather pointless and isn't really an argument worth having. Every country has sportman who drink etc. not just in the uk. Fact is most footballers think they are the muts nuts and it's all down to money and greed.typified by sterling and his agent. Agents should be more regulated and this sort of thing could be minimised and hopefully ruled out. Football ain't what it used to be and gradually I am falling out of love with what the game has become. Rant over lol
10 Jul 2015 19:07:52
I agree with Waro and you boys by the way, it's not something you want to see in this day and age. Health education has moved on so much, and these players are made millionaires to kick a bit of leather about to the best of their ability.
But wouldn't it send a message if the club, and football in general, stopped being sponsored by Carlsberg, Carling, Chang, Guinness etc etc.
They stopped it with ciggies, so why not the drink ?
10 Jul 2015 23:26:39
I actually met Stevie G about 10 years ago in a club in Liverpool. He was drinking but on closer inspection it was non alcoholic Becks.
Joey Barton was there too (seperately). Don't know if he was drinking.
Either way both players were out on a night out after a Saturday match.
The day after a match is a day off they should go have a good time whatever way they please. It's their choice.
{Ed007's Note - What kind of $hitholes do you drink in that lets Joey Barton in? Do you wipe your feet on the way out?}
11 Jul 2015 00:47:20
Most Gaelic footballers these days don't go on the lash during playing season and if they do it's completely out of the limelight and they are all amitures( not payed) and most are fitter and more dedicated than any pro footballer. He should have more sense he's a lucky young man to be in the position he's in .
11 Jul 2015 03:52:35
@Donegal.red Michael Murphy (Donegal Captain) came into my local shop with the rest of the donegal players and all he bought was a bottle of water and an apple. I am friendly with many young guys who are on the gaelic county teams and have to train 2 or 3 times a week for both county and club and are closely monitored and told they are not allowed to be out partying, and they do it despite not being payed a penny and all have other fulltime jobs, because they genuinely want to improve their fitness and ability. Imo its a disgrace seeing soccer players on such high wages partying the way they do
12 Jul 2015 06:13:06
To be fair although sterling is clearly a knob head, drinking straight after a game does make sense, it's the furthest night away from their next game and they have the most time to recover, I'm not saying players should drink but if they're going to shouldn't it be well before the next game??
{Ed001's Note - no that is simply not true. It is the worst time to drink as it is when the body needs to be recovering from the match. One of the first things you are coached, or should be, it certainly is in athletics, is that you need to steer clear of alcohol the night after competing to allow your body to recover. Probably explains why are athletes have been so much more successful in recent years than our football teams. They are treated as professionals in athletics, with every little thing looked at that can improve their performance level, even to the point that they are taught the correct way to wash their hands to ensure they are properly clean to cut back on colds.}