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26 Apr 2016 07:55:08
There's a few inches today regarding Timo Horn leaving for a new challenge; you'd have to think we'd be interested in him; would appear to be a good option.

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26 Apr 2016 09:14:32
If the 7 million Euro buy out is to be believed you would think it would be a no brainer to try at that price.
I don't know if the eds have or could confirm any such buyout?

26 Apr 2016 09:39:49
There is a clause; some time ago a poster on a Liverpool forum who is very knowledgable about the Bundesliga said that the Mainz chairman had confirmed it, and just today I saw that the english media are also running with this story.
I wouldn't delve into the exact amount of the clause, I think it was 9 mln euro, but I might be mistaken; what was interesting is that it is only valid until the end of May.
However, the main problem is that he wants to be a starter, and as the reds have said numerous times, we are looking for "competition" to Mignolet. Personally, I suspect that if a good keeper is brought he will push Migs down the pecking order, but Klopp seems to rate him thus far, so we will have to trust our manager.
Eds, do you have any official list of clubs interested in Horn? I seem to recall that there was conflicting information whether we are interested from ed01 and ed02?
Cheers to ya all, looking forward to thursday!

{Ed002's Note - There no "buy out" clause and if there was the player won't have the money to pay it. If your "knowledgeable" chum has said there is he is wrong.

There is a release clause which German clubs can look to exploit.

One EPL side has looked at Horn this season following previous interest of Milan and Valencia which has gone.}

26 Apr 2016 10:06:02
Ah, sorry ed, didn't pay much attention to what type of clause it was ;> So, it is similar to Firmino's, and only applicable to German sides? Thanks for the clarification!

{Ed002's Note - They simply don't work how you think - you need to ignore clauses. However, just to be clear:

This is a horribly complex area not least because they are written under individual national laws.

The "buy out" clause is legally binding between a club and a player. The "buy out" is effectively what it says - a means for the player to buy himself out of the contract. As an example, if a player wishes to buy himself out of a contract, he pays the applicable FA (on behalf of the club) the amount of the "buy out" clause effectively becoming a free agent. The problem is that in most cases a player would need to obtain that money from the buying club - and this is fraught with issues regarding "tapping up" and, of course, taxation as it can be seen as income for the player and would therefore be subject to income tax. There was a test case about the taxation issue in Spain about three years ago. So "buy out" clauses are very rare.

A "release clause" is far more common in that it gives a figure that the club would accept for the sale of a player to another club - but it is not legally binding except where both parties are in the same country (for the sake of argument I should say that Spain and Portugal count as the same country as do England and Wales) for legal purposes. These are normally unreasonably high figures (Messi at Barcelona for example) introduced to act as a deterrent for hostile bids - and even then the club could easily block a move. However, if a club does agree to match a release clause then the selling club would be obliged to ask the player if he is interested - there is no obligation on the player to make a move. For interested clubs outside of the country the selling club may use it as a guide but are under obligation to accept a bid.

There is then the becoming popular "termination clause" which is binding between the player and the club and if met would see an offer from anywhere accepted and the player given the opportunity to make a call on a move. This overcomes the issues associated with "buy out" clauses as the money would be paid by one club to another.}

26 Apr 2016 11:25:32
So termination clauses are like release clauses but don't have certain national parameters?

{Ed002's Note - Yes Nick.}

26 Apr 2016 13:08:22
Don't think the guy is a big enough improvement on Mignolet. Personally I'd go big on a goalkeeper this year as I believe we only need a couple of players as we have Matip n grujic. Someone like Bernd Leno would do nicely or Jan Oblak.

26 Apr 2016 13:40:25
Oblak is a great young keeper to be fair. Potential to be one of the best in the world.

Why would he leave Atletico Madrid though? They're probably the 3rd best team in the world after Barcelona and Bayern. Only Real Madrid, Juventus, Dortmund or PSG can realistically claim to be a better side.

Which means paying way over the odds in terms of both salary and transfer fee.

Horn, Sirigu, Mandanda and Leno are probably more realistic.

26 Apr 2016 16:32:15
Sirigu and Mandanda are both very poor keepers and have a fear of crosses that would make Dracula blush and given they're both about 29 make no sense signing.

26 Apr 2016 17:16:35
Isn't Mandanda available on a free at the end of the season, or has he signed a new contract?







 

 

 
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