15 May 2016 21:16:17
Evening ed002
Wonder if you can add anything mate please. I no what youve explained about him previously.
My mate has text me banging on about Zielinski saying that he has been told that things have moved on from initial interest and we have now made a move for him and the deal is all but agreed?
{Ed002's Note - I have explained that Liverpool has made an offer to Udinese.}
16 May 2016 03:27:32
Eds, I've searched and read most comments I could find on Zielinski but was wondering on your thoughts on him? Do you see him as an upgrade on anyone across our CM / CAM players that are getting in the first team at the moment? I've watched some video's and I think that he looks very good in the transition, doesn't slow down play like Lallana in that sense and has a very good eye for an incisive pass. Considering our squad it just seems a strange one to add more into that area unless he is seen as an obvious upgrade and we'll be mving out a Lallana, Milner etc. Would love to hear your thoughts on him as a player rather and if you feel he is a good acquisition if we get him.
Thanks!
{Ed002's Note - Personally I don't see him as being ready for the first team just yet.}
16 May 2016 08:12:08
He is more of a central midfield player who likes to get forward. I watched a few games of Empoli to look at the player, and I amd no scout neither have watched him as many times have LFC have for sure, but he looked like an average player with a good engine, and a willingness to get about the pitch, but with no specific ability on the ball skillwise or passing range wise.
16 May 2016 08:28:46
Thanks Ed002 and also The real AG. Seems like an odd move then - when there are other options that could improve the team immediately. Still, he's pretty well proven at picking up and improving players so hopefully he see's something we don't!
16 May 2016 09:07:04
Zielinski can also play attacking mid or on the right side of midfield. I'd say he is more suited to playing in attacking midfield than anywhere else though. He is similar to a young Fabregas I think. Great vision and chips in with the odd goal. Has the quality to glide past people but isn't blessed with pace. Only thing he has that Cesc doesn't is a great work rate.
Would he be a good signing? I think so. I don't see the point in signing him and Gotze though. So it would probably end any chances of a Mario-Klopp reunion. They are too similar players.
16 May 2016 13:32:29
It does make sense, this is a quote from Klopp.
"We'll try to find players that will give us the opportunity to become better. If they are better then good, but if they are the same level that would be really good too. Then we can push each other onto another level. "
Because of the number of games and the level they are played at rotation is necessary. Klopp prefers a dynamic midfield 2, right now only Can and Henderson are capable of playing that role. Milner doesn't have the dicipline or positional sense, Allen is too weak can't play a full 90 in that role, Lucas is too slow, Brannagan and Chivrella look young and not physical enough. Stewart works hard but still has improvements to make.
We either compensate and play 3 in midfield, which removes one attacking option, or we buy someone.
If Allen gets sold, we only have 2 CM, when Henderson and Can were injured it showed in the teams performance. Hopefully Zielinski can be a good player if he comes.
16 May 2016 15:10:14
forgetting we already bought grujic for that @reus?
16 May 2016 16:06:38
I am not forgetting him, if like Klopp has recently played different teams in different competitions, we need 2 CM to replace Can and Henderson.
Tbh I'm not sure on Zielinski, the question is would you prefer him and Grujic with Stewart as the backup. Or Stewart and Grujic as the only alternative to Hendo and Can?
Many fans seem unconvinced with Stewart and want him sold, I do think he looks a player with potential.
17 May 2016 03:20:44
agree with you regarding kevin stewart Reus, as for zielinski and grujic let's remember what klopp has said about being patient with new signings, what you are describing is options for our midfield and that can only be a good thing, especially if we suffer as many injuries as we did this year, also klopp may use different combinations depending on which team we face.