24 May 2016 19:00:07
So a quick round up so far, Karius has signed a 5yr deal (Klopp's third signing) and been given the No.1 shirt, Chilwell due shortly, fee in the region of 4mil plus add ons, Skrtel is off to Besiktas for 6mil, Goetze has never been on Liverpools radar and Canos is off to a London club, probably Watford or QPR for a fee off 4mil.
24 May 2016 20:00:47
And Sinclair to Watford?
24 May 2016 20:22:56
If chilwel is our only signing at left back then that just shows a massive lack of intent.
24 May 2016 20:56:25
Kman92, so the fact that Arsenal have been after Chilwell suggests that they have a massive lack of intent too?
24 May 2016 21:06:11
does chilwell even make the leciester team?
24 May 2016 21:15:41
How is Chilwell a lack of intent? For all you know the clubs scouts and Klopp genuinely believe he is the left back available. Coutinho was about 19 with hardly any first team experience when we signed him. Nobody batted an eyelid though because he has an exotic name.
24 May 2016 21:16:21
maybe chilwel is ready and will be awesome :P.
24 May 2016 21:16:45
A massive lack of intent. Really? What brings you to that conclusion? Because Klopp is doing what he thinks is best rather than what you want? How many left backs would he have to sign to keep you happy?
24 May 2016 21:35:17
Chilwell couldn't replace Fuchs, so only played a few games but he got a glowing report from Klopp's best friend, David Wagner who is Huddersfield manager and where Chilwell had a loan spell, before heading back to Leicester and on another note, Toure, whose current contract expires next month, is in line for a new short-term contract, as Sakho is rumoured to be facing a 6mth ban for failing a drugs test.
24 May 2016 21:51:08
I think if we sign Chilwell then it will be a rotation of him gomez and flanaghan at left back.
25 May 2016 02:08:37
Very very happy with signings so far. Think Matip and Karius will really strengthen the team and Grujic will develop into a top midfielder in time. If we get Chillwell I'll be absolutely fine if that's our lot for this summer.
Only possible thing I could ask for is a major game changer in either DM (for Lucas or Allen) or attacking midfield (for Markovic, Llalana or Milner) purely as an upgrade in quality and to add a bit more steel or danger from AM. Would have to be someone special to justify a move. Gotze is obvious candidate but if we can't get someone who's the finished package I'd rather we gave Grujic, Stewart, Ojo, Markovic, Brannagan etc. a real shot.
25 May 2016 04:24:46
The Eds have said we have an interest in Gotze. Please don't claim we were never interested just because the media is now reporting he's not coming to Liverpool.
{Ed001's Note - we have an interest in hundreds of players, it doesn't mean we are going to buy them all or even try to.}
25 May 2016 06:28:12
But Goetze is looking unlikely ed now?
{Ed001's Note - he was always unlikely. The likelihood will increase if Bayern make more of an effort to push him out of the door this summer. Right now though, his price is too high for a player with such a short term left on his contract.}
25 May 2016 08:34:24
Ben chilwell isn't an improvement on Moreno let's be honest. No one has actually seen him so we are just all going to trust klopp are we. I trust klopp when it comes to matters on the pitch but I am yet to be swayed by the recruitment. It's still early days but if chilwell is our only left back in the summer, I whole heartedly expect Moreno to be our first choice left back come next season. He's probably not even that much better than Brad smith. Unless Moreno and smith are both shipped out I can't really see another left back coming in on top of chilwell. We all want to see a top player or as good a player as we can get in the left back position as it is so important, yet we go for chilwell who can't get into the leiscter team. That to me is a lack of intent to really improve a position that cost us so much last season.
{Ed023's Note - No one has seen the lad play but you then say he isn't an improvement on Moreno - how did you come to that conclusion may I ask?}
25 May 2016 09:18:47
Kman. Please remember that very rarely will Klopp buy "a superstar" or a player known to many regular fans.
Lewdonoski was a unknown and struggled in his 1st season. He achieved great things. Aubameyang was a ok left forward in the French league and his transformed into a leading striker in world football. Hummels wasn't cracking it at Bayern and look at him Dortmund under Klopp.
Not everyone is going to be a superstar who Klopp has bought and will buy. We just hope for the very best through out.
25 May 2016 09:41:56
Kman I watched Chilwell twice last season. Both against Spurs in the FA cup and he was absolutely solid. Admittedly 2 games isn't a great pool of footage to judge a player from, but he showed me more in two games than Moreno has in 2 years!
I'd be happy with a back 4 of Chilwell, Lovren, Matip and Clyne. With competition from Smith, Gomez, Sule and Flanagan. That gives us a solid first choice defence, backed up by 4 young players who are all good enough to step in if required. In fact Chilwell, Gomez and Sule in particular have the potential in my opinion to play for Liverpool's first team for the next decade. I wouldn't be surprised if Sule broke into the team inside the first 3 months of the season.
It would be nice to get Hector in as well, and let Smith go. But I think that might be stretching it, and Chilwell may want first team football. Otherwise I'm sure he'd be staying at Champions Leicester, who have more games next season than us due to European competition. Why sit on our bench instead of theirs? I can genuinely see him starting.
25 May 2016 10:18:23
Gazza I understand not everyone is going to be a superstar name, I don't get why people think once a player is ruled out for not being good enough it means such and such wants a big name. No that's not what I'm saying, most the left backs in the world today aren't big names but some of them have real quality, quality that is an improvement on what we have. Stupid posts like if he had an exotic name you would want him is nonsense, I want clear quality, someone who will definitely improve this position not a big name who costs a lot or someone with apparent potential. Why take gambles as if we are developing players like Dortmund when we don't have the back room staff they did, when England isn't developing the quality Germany is etc. This is not Dortmund, the same thing won't play out here, I don't have a crystal ball i'm just stating my opinion. This past season we saw improvements from our youngster but did you see where we finished. I rate klopp I'm just yet to be swayed by the recruitment and can you blame me since the past 4-5 seasons we have have signed average for the large majority. most the other top sides have top quality managers now just like ours, will sign better players than us but we are expected to get top 4? Explain how we will finish above city, Arsenal, Chelsea Utd and Spurs. I think we can on maybe a few of them but will it be enough?
25 May 2016 10:06:52
Ed023 because if he was an improvement on Moreno surely he would be starting at Leicester city. Plus since we have practically signed him I've watched him in some full games, two of which where against Spurs as MK scouser mentioned and he did look good in one of those matches, the other one he looked rash and for a period just kept booting the ball out of play, the one thing Moreno is actually good at is keeping the ball in play and linking up well with the left sided player going forward. He retains the ball even when it looks like he can't. Genuinely the only problem I have with Moreno is his defending and positioning which are two major problems but can be fixed, it's clear from what I've seen Moreno has far more natural ability than chilwell and I'd say more potential as they are still both very young. Maybe if we had a good defensive coach or good defensive organiser we wouldn't have the problems we have, because it's not just Moreno who is the problem in defence. I'd have no problem if chilwell is coming in for competition or back up but as a starter, I just don't see it working out anytime soon. Maybe he will have a good start but eventually he will be targeted and then everyone will do their ritual slating and I told you so when they where saying he will be a good signing before hand lol. IMO we need better than Moreno And we still haven't got it, so I probably expect him to stay, if he goes then we need another Lb.
{Ed023's Note - There's nothing to suggest that Chilwell is the only left back coming in and Moreno may well be off. It's harsh to give out that he didn't start for Leicester when Fuchs played so well all season of course it was tough to break into the side. I have never seen the lad play so I will reserve judgement personally but as I haven't seen him play I won't saying he is an upgrade or a downgrade for that matter on Moreno}
25 May 2016 10:58:08
Kman92. And you can't even spell Leicester.
25 May 2016 10:59:19
C'mon lads. why all the doom and gloom? Look at what Klopp has achieved in 6 months with Rodgers team which were struggling. under Klopp 2 cup finals! Imagine what Klopp can achieve with HIS players who suit HIS style of play.
As far as new signings are concerned. lads we signed MATIP on a FREE! He was named in the bundesliga team of the year i. e. he was either the 1st or 2nd best centre back in the Bundesliga last season! Arguably one of the best young CBs in the world.
Grujic looks absolutely class as well. and for a pittance we signed him!
Klarius was also named the 2nd best GK in the bundesliga last season, second only to the BEST GK IN THE WORLD (Nuer) . and we got him again for a pittance.
Everyone knows what we needed i. e. New GK -Done, New CB - Done, New CM - Done. New LB on the cards. All other positions are pretty well sorted and I can only see us really pushing for players if we sell players i. e. upgrading.
Don't forget last season Klopp was without Sturridge, Gomez, Ings, Origi, Can, and Henderson for long periods. As well he had Benteke who he obviously did not rate at all. If you can't tell by our new signings Klopp is obviously buying younger players who he can mould into his footballing system i. e. remember when he signed he said 'I think we can win the EPL in 4 seasons'. As previously stated Klopp has never really bought big names, rather players who he knew he could get the best out of and would perform well in his system. Just wait and see what these guys can do.
We don't need Gotze. I would rather us buy Ante Coric who is younger with more to prove.
25 May 2016 11:26:12
So because of a typo on iPhone predictive text, that somehow undervalues my post. Yes nice one Welsh red, I think your company will be more valued on the blue half of merseryside.
25 May 2016 12:10:52
Well well said JCollver.
25 May 2016 12:26:27
Predictive text changes it to the correct spelling?
25 May 2016 12:47:22
KMAN you question klopp recruitment, well remember this look what he did at dortmund and he has just bought the 2nd best GK in germany voted by the german teams he was 2nd only to the Bayern keeper so he can't be that bad, why don't you wait till the players he buys flop before coming out with statements like that, you won't look too foolish then.
25 May 2016 12:48:52
Remember when we signed Xabi Alonso for GBP10m. look at what he turned out to be. Don't let the size of the transfer fee be the only thing to dictate your opinion of the player.
25 May 2016 14:19:14
Kman.
I honestly do believe a few things will factor into our next season. A less injury free squad throughout. A full pre-season from Klopp. A shaved playing squad. More time to establish tactics on the training ground.
Without European football it could be a blessing. (I don't think to Leicester city standard) but certainly a advantage for a better league position.
New clubs new managers may also have the issues we may have have. Although, Klopp already having a good 3/ 4 of a season established. Team settling in. New players?
The likes of Spurs and Arsenal will maintain but Man U, Chelsea and Man city will have it all to do as will we.
25 May 2016 15:53:54
Whilst we know he is here to challenge for the starting slot I wouldn't read anything into Karius being given the no1 shirt, Mignolet has never worn it and it has been free since Jones left.