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01 Jul 2017 03:46:07
Hi Ed002,

Did you confirm that Liverpool have agreed a fee with RBL for Keita in a post about Laimer to RBL which seems to have been taken down?

Cheers.

{Ed002's Note - No, Liverpool has not agreed any fee with RBL over Naby Keita and unless something has changed overnight they have yet to make any offer to RBL.}

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01 Jul 2017 08:43:45
The tabloids are loving it, looks like this Keita news is going on overdrive this weekend.

01 Jul 2017 09:08:05
When the news is that Liverpool are 'preparing' a bid for the player it just shows how bad the leakage situation is at Liverpool. I'm not sure any other club has this problem to the same extent. Ed please can we have you opinion on who is to blame for the porous nature of information-security at our club and what can be done to fix it?

{Ed002's Note - Well it was Klopp who briefed the press - so him. As for the "preparing a bid" I have no idea what that means. Are they going from sofa to sofa looking for cash? Is some one checking the spelling on the fax?}

01 Jul 2017 09:39:11
ed002 why do you have to try and be funny and blunt about the wording people use? obviously you know what the guy meant.

{Ed002's Note - I answered his question - it was KLOPP who briefed several members of the press so he is to be held accountable. Are you some sort of halfwit? You tell me what "preparing a bid" means then.}

01 Jul 2017 09:52:15
Haha, thanks Ed. I agree. Maybe they're wrapping up a cake and some prezzies with shiny paper and ribbons and hiring an old Spitfire to drop it over Leipzig. Not sure RB will appreciate the gesture.

And thanks Gayfish, but he wasn't being rude towards me, I was only using the phrase in the press, which makes little sense to me.

01 Jul 2017 09:58:17
It clearly means sat with the transfer committee, talking about what would be an acceptable first offer! Prepare the £15 million offer from liverpool! 😂.

01 Jul 2017 10:12:01
I recall that Klopp said that talks were ongoing regarding transfer targets. I don't recall him talking specifically about who so I'm not sure how that makes him accountable or even what he'd be accountable for.

{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what you are talking about. The talks with van Dijk were the result of an illegal approach from Liverpool and Klopp briefed certain members of the press in order to unsettle targets. If he also made illegal approaches to the three other players then it would be reasonable to expect retribution. This has been done to death.}

01 Jul 2017 10:15:09
I would imagine the powers that be sit round a table and decide how much the player is worth and if they are prepared to pay the asking price.

{Ed002's Note - What "asking price" would that be?}

01 Jul 2017 10:26:26
Even I felt it was odd when late last season, Klopp was saying that "talks were on going with prospective targets". I have never heard a manager say that in public regarding transfers. I do not recall him ever mentioning players by name tho I could be wrong but even if no names are mentioned, it still seems odd which goes hand in hand with the tapping up nonsense he seems seems unable to stop.

{Ed002's Note - He briefed members of the press and gave them four names in order to unsettle the players. Why do you want to drag this all up again?}

01 Jul 2017 10:49:12
what do you want posters to do? know exactly how transfers work step by step and know exactly what wording to use?

{Ed002's Note - It has been explained to posters how transfer work and most are fine with that. Perhaps you wouldn't have embarrassed yourself if you read posts on the site and searched for such things.}

01 Jul 2017 10:50:18
Just a quick question:

Who is really invovled on transfer talks with the player/ clubs? Surely it can't be just the manager. Because everything i mostly read on here regarding the tapping up situation or anything transfer talks related really is about Klopp doing stuff.

{Ed002's Note - Klopp was the one who met with van Dijk and then continued communicating with him. The two letters warning the club over illegal approaches last summer both related to approaches made directly by Klopp.}

01 Jul 2017 10:57:27
"talks were on going with prospective targets". Internal discussions targeting certain players nothing wrong with that.

{Ed002's Note - It is like some sort of joke. So you think Liverpoool did not illegally approach van Dijk? Isn't that a very stupid position to take?}

01 Jul 2017 11:19:09
When we get charged by the FA for an illegal approach then I'll believe we did. Until then Ed even you can't claim we did anything wrong. Innocent until proven guilty and we have not been found guilty of anything.

{Ed002's Note - I am sorry. The club issued a grovelling apology and withdrew intersest in van Dijk. You are some sort of idiot if you are still in denial of this. And don't forget that club are already serving one ban for making an illegal approach.}

01 Jul 2017 11:25:21
I may have missed a post concerning this but who were the two letters from and about who? I know this must go on all the time but isn't Klopp treading a fine line?

{Ed002's Note - It was dealt with last year and unimportant. Klopp is well over the line - this has all be dealt with recently but again all of those morons in denial are out.}

01 Jul 2017 11:28:01
Could that not just be because they respect the position of Southampton so apologised for any misunderstanding and withdrew their interest to avoid any animosity between the clubs? Nothing has been proven, I'd argue you'd have to be some kind of idiot to condemn someone without enough evidence to convict. Isn't that what the law is based on in all walks of life, not just football?

{Ed002's Note - A complaint sits on file with the Premier League. Why do you want to drag up all of this yet again?}

01 Jul 2017 11:33:23
I don't Ed I'm just putting another spin on it. At the end of the day we've not been found guilty of any wrong doing regarding VVD. I think we should accept this, move on and stop bashing the club and Klopp when in actual fact according to the FA who are the law in our league we have no case to answer.

{Ed002's Note - There is no "spin", the club and Klopp get "bashed" because people like you keep dragging it up. I have no idea what the FA has to do with this. You really don't get how bad the club and the manager have been behaving.}

01 Jul 2017 11:34:37
I'm not sure how anyone can deny what happened given the club itself issued an apology, it's like you all live with your heads in the sand. I love the club and Klopp but poor mistakes have been made. To be honest I'm not sure why we're dragging all of this up again.

01 Jul 2017 11:42:20
Liverpool's embarrassing apology to Fulham sees Clint Dempsey tapping-up complaint dropped. 2012.

Liverpool banned from signing academy players. (Stoke 12yr old)

All this is Klopps fault is it. Obviously a fundamental issue within liverpool Im sure the idiot transfer committee or agent has badly advised Klopp.

{Ed002's Note - You do want to drag it out then. Nobody has blamed Klopp for either of those matters although he could yet be dragged in to the issue over the ex-Stoke player whose career the club screwed up if that goes to court as planned. He wasn't even at the club when there was tapping up when there was the tapping up of Dempsey, nor when the club had Gerrard tap up players on their behalf. Klopp is far from an innocent party but of course you want to blame the "idiot transfer committee" or "agent" and absolve him. This really is the sort of nonsense that does indeed make some fans a complete laughing stock.}

01 Jul 2017 12:48:50
Why doesn't the club put a gagging order on Klopp with respect to other team's players?
I don't get it, it's like they want him to keep doing it.

01 Jul 2017 13:11:58
Thanks, Ed for the clarification and for full disclosure, I have and will never defend the club or Klopp for any tapping up issues we and he have had. What he has done is flat out disgraceful and should be reprimanded internally by the owners. And to those defending the club or Klopp and deflecting on this issue, you seriously need to knock it off with your pathetic excuses and arguments for defending the indefensible. It is becoming pathetic and like Ed02, I am fed up with it.

01 Jul 2017 13:41:35
Just for the record Ed I didn't drag anything up if you look at the thread it was being discussed before I got involved. It just makes me laugh that we've got so called Liverpool fans bashing the club and manager for an issue they know very little about. If we were found guilty of tapping up and the details made public then we could all have an opinion good or bad. Until then there has been no proven guilt so we need to forget it and move on. There's no point criticising base on hearsay and half truths.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool have been found guilty - you seem to grasp any of this.}

01 Jul 2017 14:08:10
I bet some of you wish you'd "prepared" your postes more! So just to summarise; Southampton are out of order!

01 Jul 2017 16:25:07
Are we, honestly, still talking about this? I leave the page for a week and it's still happening? Klopp was a jerk. LFC have been jerks.
We need to buck our ideas up and do the right thing by other clubs and their players whilst we still have some clubs who want to deal with us.
It's not difficult. We know the rules. Break them, we pay the price.
Fully deserved as well.

01 Jul 2017 17:02:41
I'm sure we were done for tapping up Christian ziege all them years ago. Were masters of tapping up. Haha. Not good tho.

01 Jul 2017 22:26:42
Blimey, this thread has got a little rancorous. Just like the good old days!
Liverpool has picked up a reputation for sailing close to the wind over several years and Klopp seems to be continuing that trend. Naughty, naughty. However, singling out LFC and its fans for special treatment is not really fair. When compared to several top-flight continental European teams, Liverpool is relatively clean. Relatively. And as for Chelsea.
This is hardly the most heavily regulated industry in the world and is dominated by individual owners whose staggering wealth has been almost always been gathered by questionable means, assisted by dodgy advisers, agents and others.
I would suggest we move on from this subject and focus on the tiny nuggets of reality amongst the torrent of transfer speculation.
And "done deals", of course.
Cheers.

02 Jul 2017 12:21:00
Ed002 can i clarfy something that may have caused the initial confusion at the start of this rehashing. Where you say briefed journalists I'm reading that as the old fashioned quiet chat, unofficial, off the record type of thing not formal press conferences. Would that be correct and why people are struggling to see where Klopp has briefed the press?

{Ed002's Note - Yes, a number of journalistes were briefed by Klopp and given the names of four players in an attempt to unsettle the players.}

02 Jul 2017 17:20:53
Thanks fot clarifying Ed002.

03 Jul 2017 01:08:52
Some facts for you kids:
1. What the club has done is shameful. No other word to describe it.
2. We have done that before, plenty of times.
3. Other clubs do it all the time, but that is not an excuse.
4. We do not want the same done to us, although it happened (e: Suarez)
5. A manager does what the club allows him to. He knows very well that this is against the rules, so he could only have done it with unofficial backing.
6. Players and former players have been involved in this activity as well.







 

 

 
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