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13 Jul 2017 09:49:52
Morning Ed's, reading this morning that Klopp may give Sakho a lifeline to reignite his Liverpool career. He stated "He needs to get 100% fit and then we will see". Is this just ensuring we get the price we want for him or is he considering keeping him.

Thanks.

{Ed001's Note - it is about getting a good price. He would have to show a major change in attitude to stay.}

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13 Jul 2017 09:57:39
If we're looking to sign a CB but are unable to sign one could we see sakho playing for us next season should his attitude change? Highly unlikely he will play competitively for us again.

13 Jul 2017 09:57:40
Thanks Ed001, just interested in your thoughts, would you keep him, sell him and give young Gomez the opportunity or bring in another cb.

{Ed001's Note - sell him and give Gomez a shot.}

13 Jul 2017 10:03:16
Fully agree, you have a good mate and thanks for the response.

{Ed001's Note - welcome mate and cheers.}

13 Jul 2017 10:12:07
You can't challange for a premier league with gomez at CB. You need more, CBs need experience. If gomez is the future we should have signed pepe on a free for 2 years to guide him.

{Ed001's Note - that is just nonsense. Leicester managed it with Huth and Morgan as their backline, neither are any good on their own. It is about partnerships and playing to player's strengths, as much as individual quality.}

13 Jul 2017 11:00:05
Being able to keep him would be just like a new signing!
I hope really Klopp will change his mind, but Sakho needs to have some discipline first.

13 Jul 2017 11:04:24
I wish this Leicester thing never happened its all anyone reverts back too. Do you think liverpool will challange for the league with the CBs we have then ed?

{Ed001's Note - I wish people would stop going on about the quality of players with such stupid posts. Cahill is not a good player, but he was good enough to win the league more than once. There is a lot more to it than simply having the best players.

I am far more worried about our full backs than anything else. They simply do not suit the way we play. Now please stop asking dumb questions, it is not only about the centre backs as to whether we challenge or not. This is just wasting my time.}

13 Jul 2017 11:07:33
Would love to see Gomez given a chance, he seemed very composed yesterday and can win the ball without going to ground and pass the ball around a bit. Would be great to see him given a chance at CB.

13 Jul 2017 11:54:34
Man Utd won loads of league titles with players such as Brown and O'Shea. Its not about CB's or the full backs or even the goalkeeper. Defending is a collective thing, a group. Defending as a unit is key.

{Ed001's Note - I am so glad someone gets it. Our issue is that we still haven't got that bit sorted. It was starting to improve at the end of the season though, with Migs making strides, the rest looked better.}

13 Jul 2017 12:11:56
They also had vidic and rio and van der sar. how can you compare the two? Living in cloud cookoo land.

13 Jul 2017 12:17:59
Anyway we will see how it goes won't we. But ill be back to tell you i told you so. And if im wrong ill eat a humble pie.

{Ed001's Note - don't bother I am not 5 years old and no one cares but you whether you were right or not.}

13 Jul 2017 12:20:02
Sakho is so far away from being what we need. I've never seen a team line-up before a game and thought 'thank god, Sakhos in, we'll be fine'.
Not entirely sure Gomez is what we need either but then can't say I've seen enough to him to make an honest judgment.

13 Jul 2017 13:03:59
Win the title with lovren and moreno as our defenders. please let us try and be honest with ourselves. And putting a lot of responsibility and pressure on the young lad Gomez is a little bit premature don't you think ed.

{Ed001's Note - to be third choice? If he is not up to it then we need to know, rather than just waiting around for years and giving him no chance to find out one way or the other. I saw people clamouring for the likes of Ake etc who are not much older. It is time we started giving our own youngsters a go rather than buying them in.}

13 Jul 2017 14:01:22
I don't think people have a problem with Gomez getting a chance, just maybe at 4th choice CB not 3rd. That way we get to have more choice on when is best to play him. I am concerned that we can easily end up having to play with an untested CB in Gomez and Kalvan for large parts of the season if the other two CBs have a repeat of last seasons injury problems.
I also get what people are saying regarding defending as a unit, but the system that Klopp plays doesn't really do that. The CBs are often exposed with the fullbacks pushing so far up the pitch, add to that a lack of a proper disciplined CDM. I think with this in mind then individual quality from our CBs is quite important.

{Ed001's Note - actually the way we play emphasises the need for defending as a unit, not lessens it.}

13 Jul 2017 14:44:44
I think Sakho is the best centre back at the club but I think the ship has well and truely sailed with him. Shame as he seemed a good character, obviously over stepped the mark once too many and I don't think Klopp is the type of guy to change his mind.

13 Jul 2017 15:13:40
You act 5 a lot of the time. everyone is entiitled to voice an opinion and if you don't agree you jumo on your high horse.

{Ed001's Note - if you say so. I don't know why you bother wasting my time talking to me then. I would be quite happy if you didn't bother. Especially considering the bull you have posted recently, be doing us all a favour if you took your lies about Aubamayeng signing etc elsewhere.}

13 Jul 2017 16:14:41
How is Gomez or any player supposed to get experience if people keep taking the view they're not experienced enough and we should sign other players instead. You can't loan someone out for years and years and expect they will come back and be happy and efficient when the other player you brought in has finally finished playing.

13 Jul 2017 16:18:00
I agree with demicis in the respect that while utd had o shea and brown they also had rio and vidic. We simply don't have a defender anywhere near the class of those two. At the same time I totally agree about defences being a collective thing. Remember how good henchoz was with hypia and no one would've said before hand that stefan henchoz was a world beating centre back. No need to be rude to the guys that make this page as good as it is (read about salah here way before it was all over papers) as a note, I would like to see gomes get a bit of game time somewhere before we trust him with our title challenge. He looks a PROPER prospect but tranmere ain't chelsea. Tranmere aren't even Swansea. No where close. Brighton loan would suit all parties I think.

13 Jul 2017 16:18:00
I agree with demicis in the respect that while utd had o shea and brown they also had rio and vidic. We simply don't have a defender anywhere near the class of those two. At the same time I totally agree about defences being a collective thing. Remember how good henchoz was with hypia and no one would've said before hand that stefan henchoz was a world beating centre back. No need to be rude to the guys that make this page as good as it is (read about salah here way before it was all over papers) as a note, I would like to see gomes get a bit of game time somewhere before we trust him with our title challenge. He looks a PROPER prospect but tranmere ain't chelsea. Tranmere aren't even Swansea. No where close. Brighton loan would suit all parties I think.

13 Jul 2017 17:51:32
It's about proper coaching and organisation. you do that right and your pretty much there. I've seen the best centre halves on the planet make horrific errors.

13 Jul 2017 19:07:09
If Sakho were to stay I'd like Klopp to give him a chance alongside Matip because I think they would complement exact other better than Lovren and Matip. For me I'd rather see Sakho change his attitude and earn himself another chance than us going out and spending stupid money on a CB that isn't that much better than we currently have (VVD, I'm not slating VVD because he is better than what we currently have but I don't value him at £60 mil+ so I'd rather keep that money and sign quality fullbacks)

13 Jul 2017 19:51:51
While from a monetary standpoint, I would love for us to just keep Sakho, but I don't see how he suits our style. He's best fit in a team that packs it in. He's strong in the tackle, but is a nightmare with a high line, getting caught out of position and making rash decisions (something I see VVD doing often as well) . I think Lovren and Matip can do just fine if proper outside backs are brought in, and Mignolet becomes a strong communicator with the entire back line. As has been said, defending is best done as a unit, and in Klopp's system (high press) more cohesion is needed than any other system due to players pushing forward out of possession rather than getting everyone behind the ball.

13 Jul 2017 19:56:35
Our defence looks week due to 2 poor full backs and a keeper that does not communicate and organise his defence.
Sort these area's out and suddenly it a new ball game.
How does Gomez get expeariance if he is 3rd choice. I'd go further and say I hope klavenleaves so Gomez has to play.
He has always looked accomplished whenever I see him.

Also our main problem against the smaller teams is getting hit on the break and crumbling, I'd like to see a change in formation against these teams afford a bit more protection against this. 4.2.3.1.
It would first sure up the defence and secondly allow for a creative player like coutinho to drop deeper and affect the play more. with 2 pacy wingers and stude upfront.

13 Jul 2017 22:24:05
It is a telling problem that the right footed career midfielder at left back seemed to have more idea to deal with wingers trying to cross than the right footed career defender at right back. If that doesn't improve the CBs and the keeper will be getting bombarded anyway.

14 Jul 2017 01:57:01
I hope all our CBs will be better this season. You'd think by now they'll be more used to playing the high press and will have learnt from their mistakes from last season, you'd hope. Also more experience playing together and Migs haveing improved should also help.

wait and see, but definitely give Gomez a run!

17 Jul 2017 17:30:00
I do think there is an element of you have to accept you are going to be caught out a few times if you play very high up the pitch for your back line.







 

 

 
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