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14 Aug 2017 07:50:49
Eds do you see this couthino transfer being sorted soon and are Liverpool actively looking for a replacement now? It seems no way back but there doesn't seem to be any movement on replacing him, we couldn't really think he'll stay could we.

{Ed001's Note - yes but not looking for a direct replacement, I am not sure there is one.}

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14 Aug 2017 08:39:03
Jntil the club get in someone that knows what he's doing the transfer circus at lfc will continue for another 27 yrs.

14 Aug 2017 08:50:53
Klopp should tweak the midfield a little. I like Pochettino's setup better where he has Dier/ Wanyama dropping in as 3rd CB when the full backs bomb forward, allowing Alderweireld and Vertonghen to move further to the sides to defend. We should sign a CDM who can do something similar and give Matip and a new CB more breathing space and lesser ground to defend. This where I think a CB like VVD will come in handy. None of our fullbacks are particularly good at defending so having them play more as wingbacks will suit them especially TAA, Robertson and Moreno. Not sure Clyne will get a look in though coz he is poor going forward.

14 Aug 2017 09:05:05
It seems a bit odd the club aren't more prepared given the interest Barcelona have held for so long.

14 Aug 2017 09:19:24
There simply isn't one Ed, I agree. His level of influence is not something that one signing in the short term can fix except bar maybe Eriksen.

{Ed001's Note - I don't think Eriksen is anywhere near as good nor someone I would want to bring in. I think he is the one in the Spurs side that could be improved on. For me he is the weakest link, though still a good player, he just hasn't got that little bit extra. Everything about him is just a bit under what I would want. Physically he is not quick, nor is he particularly strong. He has a good range of passing and vision, but it is not top end good. He doesn't work back well, his shooting is a bit hit and miss and his deadballs are the same. He is just a level or two below Couts and the rest of the Spurs attack.}

14 Aug 2017 09:37:48
You are right Ed01. He is vastly overrated in my view. He is not their playmaker and often goes missing when Dembele isn't around! He is the beneficiary of the what Dembele does behind him! He is like Lallana who is useless without Coutinho!

{Ed001's Note - Dembele is awesome. I love watching him play, he is like a Rolls-Royce, gliding across the ground effortlessly. He can give it out too, he is not shy of a crunching tackle as well as being so silky on the ball.}

14 Aug 2017 09:42:16
Eriksen could have won player of the year last year. He was better than any liverpool player.

{Ed001's Note - I don't see why you think that when he wasn't even close to being their best player. He was nowhere near as good as Kane, Alli, Dembele, Aldeirweireld, Rose (though I am not a fan of his, he did play well until injured), Dier and Son at times. I really do not know what you saw, but it beggars belief if you think he was anywhere near winning player of the year.}

14 Aug 2017 09:44:27
I get that exact same feeling ed, there's something about Eriksen which always makes me feel somewhat unconvinced about him. I always get this feeling that there is an extra yard he fails to make up.

{Ed001's Note - he just isn't quite top class, certainly good enough for the Prem and better than say Siggurdsson but he is not in that Alli and Kane bracket where you can't improve on them realistically.}

14 Aug 2017 09:58:37
I get the impression that you are/ were a central midfielder yourself Ed01, don't ask me why.

Wasn't Dembele the player that Kenny was desperate to sign just before he left? I would love him and Alderwerield at LFC.

{Ed001's Note - we have defo tried to sign him in the past before he joined Spurs.}

14 Aug 2017 10:12:59
You need to give up on some people Ed01. Without Mousa Dembele Eriskon is just another average player!

14 Aug 2017 10:15:09
I did read your article about him and what you describe him as a Rolls Royce. He is their playmaker who makes everyone looks better. People don't see it. Not your fault!

{Ed001's Note - one of my favourite non-Liverpool players. If he added goals to his game then people would notice him. I wonder if that is why people get so excited about Eriksen? He does weigh in with some goals, which is always good for highlight reels.}

14 Aug 2017 10:15:10
Thanks, Ed. I agree he is not at Cou's level and frankly who is apart from Silva in the PL in the true no. 10 position? I just thought he would be someone we can kinda make do with but I see your point.

14 Aug 2017 10:17:39
Hey ed001, when you say "not a direct replacement" for coutinho, are we looking to change the formation slightly with this new player? I know it's been mentioned a lot about firmino dropping back and getting a striker in, do you see this as a possibility? The more i think about that the less I want it to happen though, I like Firmino up front personally.

{Ed001's Note - I don't expect Firmino to drop back, at least not regularly, though maybe on occasion to fit Sturridge in. I expect a more energetic midfielder, like the one we tried for in Keita, to be the replacement. Though Salah was a more direct replacement.}

14 Aug 2017 10:44:37
I rate Eriksen highly and would be fairly happy with his as a replacement, I also agree on Dembele, one of the most underrated players in the league imo.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool has shown zero interest in Eriksen.}

14 Aug 2017 10:50:41
Agree about Erickson Ed. I think Couts is better than Erickson but not as good as someone like Hazard who has the pace and power to go with the skill. It will be interesting to see what we do when he goes. Part of me was a bit concerned that with him dropping into midfield it left us a bit lightweight in a midfield that already gets bypassed too easily. Another part of me was drooling at the prospect of him sitting deeper servicing Mane, Firmino and Salah. I guess that means I'd like someone with a good engine, strength, pace, good in the air but with Couts's passing range and ability to beat a man. Not asking for too much am I?

{Ed001's Note - to be fair, we are not lightweight in midfield, they just get too caught up in the press and do not position themselves well when the press is not on.}

14 Aug 2017 11:04:54
Thanks ed. it's going to be interesting to see who we bring in.
I'm not as worried about coutinho leaving as I have been in the past when we have sold some of our best players, I just can't see us struggling up front now salah is here.
Still hope we can bring in Keita, he will make a huge amount of difference I think.

14 Aug 2017 11:13:17
Spurs have *apparently* told Barcelona they want £100+ for Erickson which has made them baulk at the price. I reckon Barcelona will come back with an offer closer to the figure they were told and that will be the end of the matter. The question is then, will we spend it wisely? Of which the only answer is that the evidence based on previous experience is not good.

14 Aug 2017 11:29:27
If you're right Mr Dennis then I don't know what Barcelona are thinking because Eriksen is definitely worth more that £100 lol.

14 Aug 2017 11:48:04
You mention Aldiweirald Ed but Vertonghen was better last season.

{Ed001's Note - I just couldn't be bothered to continue the list mate, or there is Lloris too.}

14 Aug 2017 11:58:10
I agree about the press Ed and also we tend to be so comfortable in possession that the midfielders makes runs vacating the middle which means if we lose the ball the midfield is empty. I would just worry who would be sacrificed for Couts in the middle. If you take out Can or Wiji then that definitely leaves us more lightweight. If you take out Lallana we lose the one that triggers the press and everyone ends up chasing the ball instead of a structured press at the right time. That being said it might have given us a better chance of breaking teams down if Pip was picking passes from deep. I guess now we'll never know but we have to look forward not backwards and simply do what's best for the team and move on.

14 Aug 2017 12:03:11
There is some bizarre rumour that Aldewiereld has a buy out clause of £22m next summer? Or is that just twitter twatter?

{Ed001's Note - I don't know to be honest but it would seem highly unlikely that Levy would agree to such a thing.}

14 Aug 2017 13:30:18
Seemed an odd one to me, as Levu is shrewd on these things and rarely ever mugged (well, aside from Mousa Sissoko) .

14 Aug 2017 13:49:45
Not sure which Ed it was but I remember the comment about Eriksen whoring himself around Europe for a move before he went to Spurs. Pure quality.

14 Aug 2017 14:30:13
Alright Ed for a long time i've held my tongue on this forum a lot of fans calling for Klopps head, these will be the same fans that where in jubilation once he came in as manager, not everyones perfect but if you know Klopp he has a formulae doesn't work over night but if he can get it right in german football the closest league to our own premier league i can't see him doing all that bad at liverpool transfer are transfer and as a liverpool fan we are more often then not dissapointed in what we produce for the last few years my dissapointment is once again champions league football and the signing just haven't been upto scratch, other then the ones who are constantly mentioned VVD, KEITA are there no alternatives people like lucas moura, pastore, Koulibaly as replacement who are just as good as the ones mentioned, everyone has gone mad on keita who looks a talent but i've heard it all before over the year remember anthony le talec, bruno cheyrou all played well one season before we signed and then couldn't produce all he would do is surely stop Lallana getting a game?

14 Aug 2017 15:01:21
Keita is nothing like Moura or Pastore, Moura is a winger and Pastore a number ten, Keita is an all action box to box midfielder who had two very successful years in Austria with RB Salzburg then improved on that with a hugely successful season at higher level with RB Leipzig and certainly isn't comparable with any of Le Tallec or Bruno Cheyrou.

14 Aug 2017 15:13:18
Lallana, kieta and Hendo midfield sounds extremely dynamic and would surely be a handful for anyone. Along with our unbelievable attacking unit of mane, firmino and salah. We look unplayable. Throw in studge and Can and I'm really optimistic. I think our defensive problems could be sorted with the right GK. Hope ward gets a go.

14 Aug 2017 15:23:08
Demicus, your sweeping statement that "Ericsson was better than any liverpool player last season" is simply not true. I ask you. "Would you swap him for mane? " Or coutinio lallana or firminio for that matter. Or Hendo.

14 Aug 2017 16:35:56
If Coutinho was in the Spurs side instead of Eriksen last season they would have won the title.

This is the difference.

{Ed002's Note - But what if Stoke had won all or their games? Then they would have been second.}

14 Aug 2017 16:58:38
If Coutinho leave's then its a big loss but, we have players in those position.

We are desperate for a number 8 or a playmaker in midfielder that passes the ball forwards with intent, we get lost passing the ball sideways and more worryingly at the weekend, playing long ball from the back in the first half on Saturday.

A real CDM would be great but, isn't a priority.

Plus CB of course.

14 Aug 2017 16:58:38
If Coutinho leave's then its a big loss but, we have players in those position.

We are desperate for a number 8 or a playmaker in midfielder that passes the ball forwards with intent, we get lost passing the ball sideways and more worryingly at the weekend, playing long ball from the back in the first half on Saturday.

A real CDM would be great but, isn't a priority.

Plus CB of course.







 

 

 
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