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01 Jun 2023 06:54:21
One for the all knowing Ed002 - you recently indicated that exit clause information is mentioned on TMS. Who all have access to TMS and are release and exit clauses always listed there? I wonder if that is the case, why didn't Arsenal ever check that before bidding £40M+1 for Suarez? Just curious about this TMS system and what kind of information gets entered in there?

Abbassep

{Ed002's Note - All information related to the transfer and contract is listed on the TMS. There are different types of clauses and each has different provisions but typically they are listed. Arsenal bid what Liverpool verbally agreed with Suarez and his agent.}


 

 

 

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03 Sep 2023 00:19:39
In an age where masses label hordes of teenagers as 'wonderkid', it's refreshing too see a teenager actually exhibit true 'wonderkid' qualities. Take a bow Evan Ferguson. A hattrick in the Premier League at the age of 18 against a Champions League team is something to truly cherish. The whole Brighton team looks so good and just click together as a single unit. A team to keep an eye on over the next couple of seasons, if they can hold on to most of their players.

On a side note, happy to see Son finally shining as the centerpiece of this Spurs team. As far as I can recall, Ed001 has been singing praises of Son for years and it's great to see that the lad is finally starting to emerge from the shadows of Kane and lead the team. Have to give Ed001 a lot of credit. He has always been super spot on with his assessment of players even if it might not seem obvious at the start.

Abbassep

1.) 03 Sep 2023 01:06:35
Oh God.
Did you see the goals? One from the edge of the six yard box, one where the Newcastle back four* backed off, backed off, backed off and backed off some more to let him shoot and a deflection.
He's a big lad with some promise but he's no teenage wonderkid just yet.

*Newcastle back four= back slow.


2.) 03 Sep 2023 01:39:53
Why the melodrama Rigsby? I am not suggesting he is a 'wonderkid'. Simply stating that its no small feat to score a hattrick at 18 years old. How many players have scored hattrick's against Champions League teams at the age of 18 (and to be fair he has been doing well since last season)? He might well turn into a dud but by current showing he certainly is on path turning into an awesome center-forward.


3.) 03 Sep 2023 01:57:11
I’ve always thought Son would be awesome at Liverpool…. love the guy.


4.) 03 Sep 2023 05:07:10
I don't think it's melodrama by Rigsby, just pointing out that Newcastle are abysmal. Don't buy into the announcers hype around that team. I've never seen a team praised more for doing less. I can't think of another team whose had one decent year and have every commentator lamenting their loss of "exceptional play they've maintained for so long" or wonder where their "pressing mentality" has gone. I guess they haven't watched since the 90s and just glossed over the relegations?


5.) 03 Sep 2023 05:20:27
Brighton are an excellent team but I’m still not sold on De Zerbi. Potter equipped that team with some outstanding players and though RDZ has done well so far, they’ve been thrashed on a number of occasions by fairly rudimentary tactics.


6.) 03 Sep 2023 08:37:20
Massive overhyping of a player.

Nothing to see here.


7.) 03 Sep 2023 10:13:08
OP, the kid's got talent for sure. Let's wait and see what he does for a full season.


8.) 03 Sep 2023 10:53:10
Abbasep, you said he actually exhibited true wonderkid qualities.
Scoring a hat trick at his age is great but is it actually exhibiting true wonderkid qualities?
Maybe I'm being unkind but Pope didn't have the best game and Botman is missing for Newcastle. They've got Dan Burn playing centre half.


 

 

14 Jul 2023 07:53:34
Not exactly LFC related (well maybe if you consider when LFC were seriously in for him before he moved to Spurs), but what a brilliant interview by Dele Alli. I remember reading on this forum in the past how he has been labeled some of the things he spoke about in the interview and it just goes to show that its never a good idea to judge a book by its cover.

I wish him, and many others like him who are going through the constant mental struggle and battle, all the very best. Its a brutal world we live in with constant scrutiny, negativity and everyone just waiting for that sliver of chance to drag you down. But I hope that Dele and folks in a similar position, find all the strength in the world to fight those demons and live a happy and purposeful life.

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1.) 14 Jul 2023 08:28:48
Huge respect for him, I'd like to say it might change the way the media treat people but I'm cynical. They can find out anything when it's convenient, plenty of well connected people will have known about his past before - but they still chose to play dumb and destroy him for clicks and views.

They'll pretend to treat him with respect now. They did the same with Sterling, harassed him until he spoke out and the wind changed, then suddenly the same people are calling him a hero.

I just hope the next young lad in the firing line of the gutter press is better prepared. The game has a duty of care, particularly a sport where people are thrown into the limelight at such a young age.


2.) 14 Jul 2023 08:43:26
It takes a lot of strength and mental fortitude to come out and confess that you actually have demons that you are struggling with and hats off to Alli for doing that. It will only help him relieve the pain and allow the healing process to continue on a much better footing.

What he has also done is given encouragement to other players and other people in diff. walks of life to come out in private or in public about their own mental health issues and help further the debate and conversation about how important it is to never suffer alone. A cry for help is not a sign of weakness. On the contrary, it takes a lot of strength to admit that you have issues and need the help.

Stay blessed, Delle! YNWA!


3.) 14 Jul 2023 08:52:51
Unfortunate reality of what human society has come to be. Such a sad state of our minds where we need to be fed constant suffering, humility and weaknesses of others to be 'entertained'. Sadly nothing will change. Media and others will talk about this for a week and then we move on with our lives as if this never even happened. It's not just the media or few individuals who are the culprit. It's a systemic problem and ever more so a projection of our insecurities that we have reached this state. We are all collectively responsible for this.

But one good thing that these kind of out pourings do is it reminds people that even the most successful and accomplished people are subject to such mental struggles and it's ok to not always feel ok and seek help when required.


4.) 14 Jul 2023 08:58:44
Agreed guys, but it’s not going to change anything about the media not long after the interview talksport clipped a sentence about Deli thinking of retiring at 24 under Jose purposely trying to spin a headline. Absolute disgrace.


5.) 14 Jul 2023 09:47:58
Absolutely. Hats of to him and YNWA.


6.) 14 Jul 2023 10:15:38
When his form dropped so dramatically I wondered if it was due to moving up the leagues at such a young age and then the massive hype that surrounded him. Now all this has come out. I suppose he may never get to the levels he once reached but as a few people have said good luck to the lad.


7.) 14 Jul 2023 10:28:43
What happens if Naby comes out with a statement saying he has suffered with his mental health for the last few years.

Would opinions change on him and would people be regretful of their previous comments on him?


8.) 14 Jul 2023 11:02:29
JK - I was just thinking that there is a lot of focus on the media when I would say the majority of the stress comes from the socials.


 

 

21 Apr 2023 08:24:21
Hello Ed's and fellow Reds - stepping away from the topic of this tumultuous season, wanted to get an opinion on a different subject - Xabi Alonso's managerial career so far.

What do the Eds and fellow folks make of it? His preferred style of play (4-3-3) looks similar to our preferred formation and his Leverkusen team has done well so far. Would he be a name to consider to manage Liverpool once Klopps tenure comes to an end?

Abbassep

{Ed001's Note - far too early to judge.}


1.) 21 Apr 2023 10:34:45
Always loved Xabi and his footballing brain. He's worked under Rafa, Mourtinho, Pep and Ancelotti. Not a bad tutelage.

Will be watching his progress with interest.

He's at a pretty solid club with a good budget. Let's see how he does.


2.) 21 Apr 2023 11:01:15
Yes, yes, way too early to really get an idea on his managerial abilities. Having said that, I'd wait for him to manage a club from the next level up, and preferably in the EPL, before entrusting him the reigns at LFC.


3.) 21 Apr 2023 12:24:04
Xabi needs to take his time and rise thru the ranks before he can be judged.


4.) 21 Apr 2023 13:37:33
Who from the prem would be next level up from leverkusen? Spurs?


5.) 22 Apr 2023 11:20:25
Faith that would be a step down mate.


 

 

18 Jul 2021 00:05:21
Might come across as a dumb question, but hey, don't ask, don't get, so here it goes - one for Ed002.

What's the reason clubs use the transfer windows to work on contract renewals? To my naive self, it would seem like a contract renewal is something that can be handled at any time of the year and the club should primarily focus on transfer dealing during transfer window. Any specific reason why a club dedicates valuable bandwidth on renewals during a transfer window? Or is it simply a case of not wanting to distract players during the playing season with these kind of discussions and commitments and thus handling it over the break?

Abbassep

{Ed002's Note - Because all contracts run to June 30. There is nothing to stop clubs looking to agree contracts at any point in the season but they need to understand their costs going forward and what they are committing to.}


1.) 18 Jul 2021 10:20:56
Makes sense. Thanks Ed002!


2.) 18 Jul 2021 15:02:37
I don't think that was a dumb question at all.


 

 

09 Jul 2021 20:05:46
On the heel of the news of Elliot signing a new contract, thought I might seek out views from Ed's and fellow Reds on here.

I did not follow his loan closely but the lil tidbits I watched of him last season, he was fairly good and consistent in his performances. He also comes across as a smart player who plays the game intelligently with a great temperament and does not rely too much on flashy skills. Even before his loan spell when I watched him in pre-season, one thing that stood out was him being unfazed by the occasion.
I also like how comfortable he is with both feet. With left being his dominant foot, he provides a good backup on the right side of the field (Salah's) position (cutting in), but he is fairly comfortable on his right foot too.

What is everyone's opinion, especially Ed1 who has a keen eye for such things and other posters who might have watched his loan spell closely? The little I have seen of him, even though he is not setting the world on fire, he certainly possesses all the qualities to become a mainstay in the Liverpool team.

Abbassep

{Ed001's Note - I think he has everything needed to star for us, it is up to him now.}


1.) 10 Jul 2021 07:48:15
I'm surprised ed, you are not usually so unequivocal about a youngster. Elliot must be the real deal in your eyes!

{Ed001's Note - Elliott is a special talent, but he has to keep working hard and not think he has already made it.}


2.) 10 Jul 2021 08:38:55
Have you ever been excited about liv youngster as you have now with elliot ed? not even trent before am i right.

{Ed001's Note - last time was probably Owen.}


3.) 10 Jul 2021 09:01:05
Lost his place in Blackburns team towards the end of the season but I'd put that down to the fact he was 17 and, it being his first full season playing in an ultra physical league. There's certainly a player in him and I hope that we as fans let him develop at his own pace. Don't put pressure on the kid and see where he can go.


4.) 10 Jul 2021 12:41:45
I used to think Jordan I’ve would become a better player than Sterling 🤦🏻‍♂️ My apologies to all.


5.) 10 Jul 2021 13:05:31
Do you think Elliott has more potential than Sancho Ed?

{Ed001's Note - yes. Potential is not actual though and he has to live up to it.}


6.) 10 Jul 2021 13:11:31
We all did lltk.


7.) 10 Jul 2021 13:59:07
This is how you know HE is a true baller: When you have rival Utd and Chelsea fans on SM channels raving about him. The kid is legit BUT as the Ed said, he needs to bide his time, work hard and not get too far ahead of himself. HE is the future and we are all in with him. Baby steps.


Longlivetheking about Jordan Ibe, no need to apologise regarding his ability. On a podcast he was in, he said Klopp literally signified his need to leave to get regular footie the moment Mane came thru the door. And it went downhill from there from non football related POV.

The kid suffered severe mental health/ depression issues. His split from his partner with whom he had a daughter was the last straw for him and it has been uphill ever since. I’m just happy he seems to be able to live a normal life now.


8.) 10 Jul 2021 14:31:02
I have expectations of Elliot this season, the kid has said he expects a lot from himself. He is not in the squad just to make up the numbers, he is too good for that. Within 2 years I expect him to be a starter. This season I expect both Jones and Elliot to kick on.


9.) 10 Jul 2021 14:47:12
If he can keep up his development we have a potentially very special player, he isn't prodigiously physical like Lukaku was or naturally rapid like Mbappe, yet his influence at blackburn was huge with his creativity . He was one of the best players in the championship in a mediocre team, he has a long way to go but this young fella might just turn out to be our next big thing but you never know.


10.) 10 Jul 2021 16:13:05
The fact he is still only 18 is mad, it feels like he’s been around for ages. He seems to have a good head on his shoulders which, hopefully, bodes well for his development and future with us.


11.) 10 Jul 2021 16:20:29
Lad at work says his mate works for some agency.
The lad at the agency says there is some data base with every registered player listed on there and it's mega detailed, so for example you could watch reels of footage on any particular player just making aerial challenges or just sprints etc

Apparently Harvey Elliot has better stats than mbappe and Messi at this stage in his career. Obviously that doesn't mean he is going to be as good as them as they could have a much higher ceiling but according to form his stats are huge across the board.

I don't know what this database is just passing on what I was told.


12.) 10 Jul 2021 22:43:43
He seems to be saying and doing the right thing so far, hopefully can keep pushing himself!

I am sure Jimmy Milner has set up camp outside his bedroom so that he can crack the whip on any funny business!


 

 

 

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29 Mar 2024 09:26:02
Ed2 you have been confidently relaying this message to us all along so not surprised in the least, but just curious what occurred over the last few hours that has led the media to form this opinion all of a sudden? The Bayern president has said something but that’s his view of the what could transpire in relation to Bayern. Does that same sentiment apply in relation to Liverpool too or there is still a chance for Liverpool regardless of where Bayern stand in this?

Abbassep

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of anything specific but the reality of being 10 points clear of Bayern with I think only eight games to go has resulted in Bayern accepting they will need to look elsewhere to replace Tuchel. Liverpool have perhaps now grasped that same thought process and will concentrate their efforts on others.}


 

 

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23 Feb 2024 00:31:12
Alonso’s past videos or his endearment for Liverpool has nothing to do with where he ends up in a professional capacity. From a sentiment point of view, all the clubs he has played for is a possible option for him to pick from so why does it make Liverpool an obvious choice given that the other clubs are equally massive brands? Also, we have been down this road of someone being a fan of Liverpool and idolising Liverpool players only for them to choose other clubs when it comes to a professional decision (cough Bellingham) .
I personally would love Alonso to be at Liverpool come next season, but this narrative of ‘it’s nailed on because there are few YT videos floating around’ is far from reliable.
I for one will just wait and watch and hope I am surprised just like when we had appointed Klopp (which I honestly hadn't expected FSG to pull off)

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13 Jul 2023 02:55:39
More power to Hendo for bagging that deal, if the numbers are true, but not sure I follow the whole 'tax free' narrative. He is a British citizen, so I am guessing the UK tax laws will require him to declare that as income and tax him, unless there is an accountant here who knows about UK tax laws for citizens working overseas.

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25 Oct 2021 21:30:26
Fair enough Ed002, but its a business decision from Salah's Agent. I fully get that Agents don't offer their clients around if they are happy, but he probably feels that Salah is not fully getting what he deserves and if fishing for a better opportunity. I still don't see why that is wrong and unfair if Salah is not letting it affect his devotion and application when he steps on that green turf.

As for the clubs, if the club doesn't pay blind loyalty to players, especially business-savvy owners such as FSG who are more inclined to taking business centric decisions (and that is absolutely fine to do), then I don't see why a player and their Agent should just keep chugging it along without assessing better external opportunities.

Anyways, let's agree to disagree since I see this slightly from a practical point of view than emotional, even though every single cell of my being wants me to clench my fist and emotionally blackmail Salah into staying at LFC until the end of his career (which I really hope he does) .

Abbassep

{Ed002's Note - I am not sure FSG are in this loop explicitly. As I have explained before, Salah has been offered around to try an match his desire. The opportunity has likely gone.}


 

 

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25 Oct 2021 21:14:36
Fully respect the Eds and fellow poster opinions, but I don't get this hoo-haa about his agent offering him around. that's exactly his Agent's job - to get the best overall deal (not just monetary) for their client and that's what his Agent is striving to do. It would be a different discussion if those discussions were getting to Salah's head and affecting his performance, but its not and the Agent is fully within his/ her rights to regularly tap into the market and check the best overall scenario for his/ her client.

Why does everyone all of a sudden forget that this is a profession for Footballers too and they are trying to maximize their value and appeal. Tell me one profession where someone would not want to regularly evaluate if there is room for better opportunities all around (including monetary and other benefits/ status growth, etc. ) .

Lets enjoy Salah for all the brilliance and magical moments he provides and let's keep our fingers crossed that he and the club reach an agreement which is mutually beneficial. I am not a fan of associating a negative connotation and jumping onto the bandwagon of belittling one of the best players in LFC's history, purely because his Agent is trying to get the best deal for his/ her client.

Abbassep

{Ed002's Note - Agents do not typically offer players around - particularly if they are happy and successful where they are. It is hugely disruptibve for clubs.}


 

 

 

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23 Feb 2024 00:34:28
When you have the opposition manager dedicate more air time to talking about the atmosphere at Anfield in press conference than the performance of his team, you got to believe that the crowd sung their hearts out. Younger players feed off the crowds energy and Anfield indeed prepared a sumptuous meal for them :)

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18 Nov 2023 09:57:57
Just like only American teams playing in the NBA World Championship. You Sir, are out of this world, for taking away that from this whole thread!

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17 Nov 2023 20:29:16
True that Ed001. Infact the same thing can be said about all the industrialists of the late 1800's and early/ mid 1900's (which exploited labor if not entirely child labor) . It's amazing how we as humans tend to focus on the end results at the cost of completely disregarding all that went into getting there (including both the good and bad) .

Well hope things are well on your end, Ed001 and your internet is no longer the arch enemy from allowing you to make progress on those amazing articles.

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17 Nov 2023 07:16:38
Thanks. I am quite enjoying this dialogue with you. Fair point. If the over-thinker comment was not meant in a negative shade, then that's fair. I am a technology practitioner (by profession and interest) and your mention of Steve Jobs just piqued my interest, but I will keep my thoughts in check here and not let this conversation turn into an ode to geniuses. Steve Jobs was NOT an over-thinker in my mind. He on the other hand did have a major flaw, which was, he always thought he was right about everything (which from a business point of view, he was more often than not) .

Abbassep

{Ed001's Note - I would have said knowingly exploiting child slave labour to make himself incredibly rich was far more of a flaw than thinking he was right.}


 

 

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16 Nov 2023 17:32:17
We all are tinkerers. It's just how well we are able to tinker, learn and re-tinker. The comment about 'over-thinking' was made earlier on the thread in a negative connotation that's why I am calling is out as hilarious. Pep IMO is the most complete Football manager of the recent generation who is able to deliver outcome and trophies consistently. Yes, money plays a role but also brings a lot of added pressure and scrutiny and being able to manage that well makes him a much more supreme manager. If Klopp is unable to perform, usually it can be chalked off to lack of resources or not enough support from ownership etc. but Pep has had to deliver constantly without being able to fall back on any excuses and that IMO is an amazing mental strength and quality, along with the obvious footballing brain he has.

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