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28 Feb 2021 18:21:09
Jota back for a week and goes down with an illness, the team just can't catch a break.
Looks like another injury with Davies not even in the squad again.

1.) 28 Feb 2021 18:40:50
Rumours are in is appendicitis which is at least another month out.

2.) 28 Feb 2021 22:55:41
Adamski sorry mate is that with Jota you mean or Davies?

3.) 28 Feb 2021 23:14:28
Jota should be available for the Chelsea game. Twitter is perfect for gullible morons.

4.) 28 Feb 2021 23:17:02
Klopp said after the game it was illness and should be OK for Thursday, twitter rubbish again.

18 Jan 2021 10:02:45
Morning Ed's
If wijnaldum isn't willing to sign a contract do you think there is any possibility we would look to maybe try and sell him for some fee this month and possibly the money could be used for stop gap cb?
Would allow hendo back into midfield and with Thiago and ox coming back I would say we are more urgently in need of a cb than gini for the rest of the season.

{Ed002's Note - No there are no plans to sell Wijnaldum this month and nobody would be interested in buying him when he can sign a pre-contract to move overseas. His representatives say that Liverpool have not offered a suitable contract to him and he will leave if a new contract is not agreed. He has been offered to Barcelona again but Barcelona are dealing with other priorities (the election) at present but could still be interested in the player as a Free Agent. Inter Milan have asked his agent for an idea of what he would be asking - but he is not there first choice, although being a Free Agent makes him attractive to them.

1.) 18 Jan 2021 11:49:27
Gini is off, good luck to him and thanks for the service!

2.) 18 Jan 2021 14:48:12
Give him the 4 year contract and then could sell him after 3 years and get some money back.

3.) 18 Jan 2021 19:10:44
Have we offered him a good deal and he is been greedy or just wants a move or are we been cheap.

{Ed002's Note - He has not yet been offered a suitable deal.}

4.) 19 Jan 2021 10:35:17
By suitable you mean the length of contract or what's the issue? I think it's very important that we keep him and would be happy to see him stay a few more years. We need to keep a core of quality senior players like him, he's basically 4th captain as Klopp has said and by all his teammates accounts is a great personality to have in and around the squad.

{Ed002's Note - He will have expectations in terms of the financial package (which I am sure will not be excessive) and in terms of the length of the contract - and Liverpool know what those expectations are - so it is up to them to offer something acceptable. To date they only seem to have dragged the matter out. Unless they plan on using Grujic to replace him they would likely need to buy a replacement and that won't be easy with money being tight.}

5.) 20 Jan 2021 13:58:22
I think given his ability, awareness, fitness levels and consistency it would be foolish not to offer him the deal heâ€™s asking for, Iâ€™m struggling to think of another top class midfielder who can walk in and replicate what he brings.

13 Sep 2020 08:21:18
Morning eds,
I don't see the point of a deal for thiago, yes he is better technically than wijnaldum but I don't think he suits the style as well and would cost a lot more in wages as well as transfer fee even if gini was sold to fund it as well as all the other costs associated with buying a player.
My question is if gini stays do you see us still bringing in another player if we can move on the likes of grujic and Wilson as they clearly don't seem to be in the plans? If so what area do you think we would and should target.

{Ed002's Note - To sign Thiago space would need to be made in midfield - but obviously Klopp remains very keen. Transfers will depend on departures so if the likes of Wilso and Grujic can be sold then you may see the club look to attacking cover. Klopp has also been after a first choice CB. Departures would be key to all of this.}

1.) 13 Sep 2020 08:49:55
If we can only raise enough by selling Wilson and grujic for one signing would you expect him to opt for thiago, an attacker or cb? Do you think the attacker would be a striker or a winger more in the style of mane or salah?

{Ed002's Note - He really seems to want Thiago but it is hard to see where he would fit in without someone leaving. Ideally I would think the club would a CB as a priority - giving a chance to keep Brewster.}

2.) 13 Sep 2020 09:32:00
I agree we should keep Brewster Ed, thereâ€™s a good player there. When you say we should look at signing a CB would that be as a starting CB or replacement for Lovren? Just that I still think Lovren could be replaced internally by Nat Phillips as a 4th choice. I agree that if room needs to be made to accommodate Thiago, to my mind the answer was made yesterday by Nabyâ€™s pretty anonymous appearance. He offered nothing and once again was just a performance where he either lost the ball cheaply or didnâ€™t offer anything to the team. Two years in and he has to be doing better than that as the team is carrying him because he was nothing more than a passenger for the time he was on the pitch.

{Ed002's Note - It is the same thing over and over - Klopp wants a starter and cannot afford one.}

3.) 13 Sep 2020 10:06:15
Tbanks for the insight Eds, Do you think if Grujic were to stay he'd be a good option in MF? I know it's looking unlikely because we still don't have a work permit. I always liked the look of the lad and he did well at Hertha.

{Ed002's Note - I think he would be an excellent choice but unless (a) someone leaves, and (b) Liverpool step away from THiago, there is no space for him.}

4.) 13 Sep 2020 10:06:49
Hi Ed, then I think the answer is right in front of Kloppâ€™s nose, sacrifice Keita to facilitate buying a starter. Iâ€™d imagine thereâ€™s still teams who rate him, and judging by yesterday I canâ€™t see weâ€™d miss Keita if he were sold to bring some money in.

5.) 13 Sep 2020 10:43:08
Sorry I disagree, Thiago improves and freshens up the first team and is also a better fit for the system we play.
He would bring Much more energy to the midfield, much more creativity (Something we are crying out for) and would be better at keeping possession in the centre of the park.
I like Gini and wouldnâ€™t mind at all if we kept him but Thiago is a much better player, I would have no issue at all selling one or two of Gini, Grujic and Keita to bring in Thiago.

6.) 13 Sep 2020 10:55:20
I would not be surprised to see us Selling Brewster and whoever else we can, and going for a tactical shake up, something along the lines of Bayern's 4-2-4 and back to a bit more heavy metal.
Thiago would be important for that type of set up, whilst Brewster has to prove he is more than a Fowler type forward who is excellent at scoring but less so at melding into such a demanding team/ tactic style.

7.) 13 Sep 2020 10:58:26
I doubt we'd get more than 25m for Naby as things stand, if that. I agree though, he doesn't have long to go until he has to be deemed a flop.
Im sure some german side would take him knowing he has performed well in that league, so perhaps some part-ex currency there.

8.) 13 Sep 2020 11:13:11
Ed 002 do you see keita leaving this summer? Pre C.V. there was a rumour linking him to inter milan i think it was.

{Ed002's Note - No and Inter have no interest in Nobby.}

9.) 13 Sep 2020 11:20:49
Maybe the answer is to sell Keita and Wijnaldum, bring Grujic into the first team fold and make an offer for Thiago that way the midfield is refreshed effectively and making good use of Grujic, if Ed002 rates him highly then thatâ€™s good enough for me, as he knows a player when he sees one.

{Ed002's Note - That won't be happening.}

10.) 13 Sep 2020 11:24:19
Just my opinion but weâ€™re in desperate need of a striker who can finish. Yesterday couldâ€™ve won by 7 or 8 on chances created but in the end settled for scraping by on a couple of penalties. Midfield and defence was all over the place but I expect that to improve as the season progresses. Got away with one if Brewster is capable at this level then letâ€™s see him on the pitch taking those chances. Firmino is class for creativity and work rate but just misses so many chances.

11.) 13 Sep 2020 11:38:01
Ed do you think Thiago is hinging one Gini leaving or not entirely related?

{Ed002's Note - I have already answered this in the same thread.}

12.) 13 Sep 2020 13:36:24
Thanks Eds! let's hope we get a work permit. I love Hendo in the team but at the moment he can't play a full 60 and I'd love us to win one of the cups as well as challenging for the league. Grujic would be an excellent option to come into the team. Him, Jones and Keita are our younger lads who can be the spine for the future.

{Ed002's Note - He is not that young.}

13.) 13 Sep 2020 14:25:19
Brewster to be sold to Sheff UTD apparently as money needed for Sarr. ITK's from UTD all over it, talks already taken place according to them.
@reluctantnicko.

14.) 13 Sep 2020 14:49:24
The thing to take from the Leeds game is Liverpool need to freshen up. They are class but certain players have no pressure on them because the squad isn't there. Thiago is class. But for me a centre bk needs to be Brought in. There seems to be an element of players just being comfortable. Liverpool will win the league again but a couple in to put pressure on certain players will cement it for me.

15.) 13 Sep 2020 14:51:42
Ed002, when referring to his first choice CB are you referring to Diego Carlos or someone else. If someone else could you name who? Cheers.

{Ed002's Note - Carlos.}

16.) 13 Sep 2020 23:12:31
Vigil being the main culprit Studoc.

17.) 14 Sep 2020 11:12:30
I cannot believe the negativity towards Naby - he had a quiet game but not a stinker, this guy will turn it up this season. Liverpool are a different team mentally they now know how to win 20 games and we will get about 10 stella performances which is 90 points. The past 2 seasons the likes of Chelsea, Man Utd and Arsenal where just poor and teams like Everton and Newcastle look considerable stronger - it will be a tough season this year and there will be less teams rolling over this season to the likes of City, our win at all cost mentality should get us over the line.

18.) 14 Sep 2020 11:20:08
Hard to see where he fits in? He'll be one of the first names down when it comes to picking the first team, Stick to talking about Everton because you seem to be clueless about how football actually works.

19.) 14 Sep 2020 17:25:51
Naby has been really poor, I think thatâ€™s why there is negativity. Flashes of brilliance in offence yeah but every other aspect of his game is massively lacking, we always seem to struggle in midfield when heâ€™s playing. heâ€™s not the player we thought we were getting, I dunno what the issue is, it might be a complete lack of effort, that heâ€™s just not very good or he just doesnâ€™t fit inTo the team or premier league but yeah sadly I think heâ€™s a flop.

25 Jun 2018 19:37:45
Evening eds,
Seems clear that if we really wanted to and were willing to pay the price the fekir deal is still on. However my question is do you see many straight alternative options if not? Seen a lot of wingers mentioned and a few attacking midfielders but very few that would match him in terms of versatility of being able to play in a midfield three like coutinho as well as across the front line.
Cheers.

1.) 25 Jun 2018 21:59:10
I still think we will get this one over the line, Klopp usually gets his man eventually.

2.) 25 Jun 2018 22:05:18
Could Thiago Alcantara be an option?

{Ed002's Note - No.}

3.) 25 Jun 2018 22:53:18
Much prefer real leather to alcantara ðŸ˜‰.

4.) 25 Jun 2018 22:54:07
If the situation is that the Lyon owner is now asking for ten million more on top of what we were originally quote there is no way we going to pay it, we didn't want too pay original fee up front due to worries over the knee so we ain't going to pay extra too get him and look like mugs . Such a shame all this cos he excatly what we need not many others out there has his skill set and character.

5.) 25 Jun 2018 23:44:50
He's going to Man United.

6.) 26 Jun 2018 01:11:42
Well if Fekir is the only player who can improve us theb we should pay. Better having for Fekir Alisson than Butland and Shaqiri.

7.) 26 Jun 2018 07:55:43
The medical experts will know Klopp really wants Fekir, but it looks as if there is a real risk of him having long periods sidelined by injury, especially in a faster and more physical league.
They can only make an informed guess about the risk of future problems, and its possible if managed carefully he could play every game for the next 7 years.
But to commit over Â£50m from the transfer budget, plus big wages for the next five years, could end up being a huge waste of money. And worse, it might leave the club without the money to bring in another top quality attacker- although there are presumably some very expensive insurance arrangements that could be made to reduce the financial risk?
If we had City's resources we might not have to hesitate. But we could end up in another sturridge situation, with a gifted player on high wages who is only available for half of each season.
If Lyon would accept a deal that guaranteed them the full Â£50m on condition that his injuries remain no worse than the average player, maybe a deal can be done? Personally it all seems pretty doubtful, from both sides.

8.) 26 Jun 2018 08:02:26
Like there are no other players on the planet that could improve us?
That's a tad myopic!

9.) 26 Jun 2018 10:04:12
Comments from a couple of well known journalists with good links to us indicate that Lyon and Fekir are more than willing to pursue a deal but that LFC have shown no inclination of resurrecting the deal at all. There is no clear indication of what has actually occurred to scupper the deal but what is clear is that we are the ones that pulled out much to the annoyance of Lyon and Fekir.

10.) 26 Jun 2018 11:26:57
My two cents as a Liverpool fan who watches many games of la Ligue 1. I believe that Fekir is over rated. Watched almost every Lyon game and I do not think that Fekirâ€™s game is NOT suited to the fast paced Liverpool style of play. He has good control but he needs many touches of the ball to go past his market.
I for one would be glad if we end up not signing him. That said, if he signs he will get my full support.

11.) 26 Jun 2018 12:38:57
I still think we should bid for Draxler. I think he'd fit our style perfectly.

12.) 26 Jun 2018 13:05:42
I like draxler but I worry about his mentality he seems a bit hot an cold for me in terms of consistency.

13.) 26 Jun 2018 16:17:18
Draxler? Really? He is injury prone and is a 5/ 10 player most games because he cba most of the time. A very over rated player who looks poor playing for the best team in a mediocre league.

14.) 26 Jun 2018 23:45:35
PowerLFC you used a double negative lol so he is suited to our style? ;)

15.) 27 Jun 2018 11:15:59
Why are we still talking Fekir when no new information has come out? Of course heâ€™s a good player, of course we would want his quality to improve the depth of our squad but really, Fabinho and Keita could make us an even better team at both ends of the pitch. Stop procrastinating about Fekir for now and think how good our squad already is with the present signings. Onwards 18/ 19 season.

16.) 27 Jun 2018 13:15:26
Bored with the whole Fakir thing. He is not the only player in the world.

Son suits our style of play far more. Fast, intelligent, aggressive, and doesn't take too many touches.

I'd bite their hand off if Spurs made him available.

29 Nov 2013 10:17:26
Hi eds
Have seen on here and in papers last few days that Liverpool are interested in Montoya, when iv seen him he seems a great talent, just kind of full back we need.
However in the paper it says it is to solve our left back problem, however every time I see him he has been right back and is certainly right footed.
So was just wondering if you knew if he has played left back much or if we are buying him to either play him out of position or swap Johnson over
Cheers {Ed001's Note - as far as I am aware he is a right back, though he can cover left back, he is certainly not one. I would think it more because Johnson can't be trusted to stay fit for long periods that we are interested. It would not be the first time Liverpool have looked to replace him long term.}

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15 Apr 2024 10:23:29
Morning Eds
With the way the last few weeks have gone obviously the reverting back to the slow and very laboured build up hasn't helped, but do you think it has exposed that maybe some of the players are good with patches of excellent form, rather than top class players or do you think maybe it's just a little stale and a new manager would give us a fresh start?

Thinking really of the likes of Konate, Endo, Szobo, Diaz, Jones, Elliot, Gakpo mostly.
I think personally it's time to move Sapah on this summer, he has been unbelievable but we can't afford to let him go for free and I don't think it's plausible to give him a massive extension.

{Ed001's Note - this is on tactics and that is the issue.}

1.) 15 Apr 2024 11:33:58
This is my two cents, for what it’s worth.

We have been poor for a while now. And those late winners were not really telling the full story if someone was just looking at the league table. Whilst many were screaming mentality monsters after those victories, many of us were saying it wasn’t sustainable, and here we are. Not even a knee jerk reaction as I said it before this game, but I hope and expect there to be a massive clear out this summer. I can easily make a justification for near enough half the players in this squad being moved on. In regards to Klopp, the man is a legend for everything he has done, there is no question about that. And I thank him for giving me the best memories supporting this club. But let’s be honest, he is not the best tactically and for me his tenure at Liverpool has run it’s course and it’s time for him to leave. He is making so many glaring tactical missteps it’s unreal and to compound matters he has no plan B when things are going bad. It’s either arrogance or incompetence, or even both. It’s worrying when the manager makes the same fixable mistakes over and over again, and saying that I can almost guarantee that Klopp will continue to set us up in a 433 with the same tactics until the season finishes, even if we continue to drop points.

Another observation is it appears there seems to be a lot going on with the players behind the scenes. I and many others have said before that there has been a visible shift in mentality and energy after Klopp announced he was leaving. I think a number of players have decided to leave this summer and the squad are aware of who those players are. I think Klopp has lost the fear factor with the players and dare I say, the respect of some. Then you have some players who have been protected by Klopp for far too long who are worried about their position in the squad, let alone the first team. Then you have others who have fought to gain the trust of Klopp like your Bradley’s who are thinking will the new manager fancy me. And you have your blatant Klopp signings in Gravenberch who know they were a Klopp signing and are thinking they could (and should IMO) be shipped out. One player who is probably jumping for joy is Elliott. The lad plays well and gets dropped for the likes of Gravenberch. Also, we was he benched for Jones and why were other subs brought on before him against Palace? Baffling to say the least. Anyways, I trust Edwards and Hughes to handle a summer clear out and I’m actually excited if and when it happen, especially if we get Amorim.

The saying life comes at you fast can never be more true than after todays results. From quadruple to Carabao Cup in the blink of an eye. If we don’t win another trophy, this has got to be one of the biggest capitulation I have seen in the league for some time. And despite Klopp making far too many tactical errors for my liking. I really wanted him to have a good send off for everything he has done for us, and that is looking unlikely now. Sad to see us finish the season like this.

2.) 15 Apr 2024 12:13:08
Seen a few talking about mentality, and I can see why as it is clear heads have dropped. I don't think that is on these players or their quality, however. We have a great squad, and if we don't win another trophy this will be our fourth consecutive year of performing below our potential, as far as I am concerned.

I think the players do look mentally fragile and rocked at this moment but I agree with Ed001, that all stems from the tactics. Stupid, overly complex and lazy tactics that they no longer have faith in. Titles are built on defence because it gives you a base to work from. Forwards are more likely to make the right decisions when they aren't being asked to bail out the rest of the team all the time. I'm not sure if any of our forwards look like long term starters for Liverpool right now, but I don't think the demands being placed on them every week are helping.

We haven't been in control of football matches all season. Constantly chasing and coming from behind takes its toll, mentally and physically. The manager doesn't appear bothered by this and hasn't been for the last four seasons, if we're being honest. I think a new manager that can bring some intensity, sharpness and attention to detail would make this group of players look brilliant again. We have been fortunate enough to have the best goalkeeper, centre back and right back of this generation, and haven't won either of the big trophies with them in the past four seasons.

In years to come, I feel Klopp's tenure will be viewed as follows. Years 1-5, some of the most flawless football management you will ever see. Years 6-9, a huge missed opportunity and failure to capitalise given the talent at our disposal.

The things that the manager is saying in post-match at this moment sound completely alien, he is a shadow of the manager he was a few years ago. He doesn't appear to be doing his homework on the opposition tactics at all and is placing the blame on his players, which is a first.

It is definitely time for a change. I hope that in years to come we can look back and say that one of the greatest things that Klopp ever did was leave at the right time, not dragging it out any further in the manner that Wenger did. Sad to see it end this way, but if nothing else, it is reassuring to confirm that his departure is what is best for the club.

3.) 15 Apr 2024 12:36:31
We have only really battered a couple of teams this year, we have labored through and now we are getting caught, we all look shot, staff and players, not sure why the kids aren't still playing as they really gave everything, Salah, Diaz defiantly need to move on, purely to give us funds, I am massively excited to have Amorim come in and do something different, Klopp has been slated for no plan B but Amorim changes play each game, the players need a new start too.

4.) 15 Apr 2024 12:38:26
Honestly lads, we've been rubbish a while now and defeats were coming - we seem to have abandoned the high energy pressing game again and gone back to a slow possession based system - why?

We look so much better with a high energy press, quick football and width - now we've went back to a slow possession game, passing for passing sake that opposition teams love defending against

Coupled with some poor performances and defensive lapse, we inevitably concede and then struggle to score - is this a tactical switch? If so, it is simply wrong and surely recent performances would show that?

Though we have been poor and whilst a lot of it seems a change in system/ tactics/ style of play etc; we have still created enough chances to win those games - our forwards could really do with finding their shooting boots again.

5.) 15 Apr 2024 12:40:49
Alonso - What you’ve said regarding behind the scenes is interesting in that there is little evidence for a lot of it, yet if it WERE true it would make a lot of sense.
A not-insignificant number of our players (Gravenberch, Robertson, Konate, Diaz, Gakpo etc. ) absolutely should be worried about their place in the squad, some for quality concerns and others for their poor availability. Klopp, for all his abilities, has proven to be a rather average judge of talent and our signings, at least in combination with Klopp’s poor deployment of them, are not offering the value they did in the early part of Klopp’s reign. As for Bradley, the new manager will not have a choice but to favour him - he’s a fantastic player and will be exceptional in any system.
I was devastated when Klopp announced he was leaving. Not anymore. He’s massively underachieved in the last two seasons and it’s entirely his fault. Hopefully the new manager will make us a bit less unserious tactically and we won’t have to start games 0-1 down next season.

6.) 15 Apr 2024 12:43:09
It’s the slow starts to the game that’s the most puzzling to me. How can all the coaches and sports science experts not sort this out. I honestly can’t remember a single game were the whistle blows and we go for it. Even this game against CP we start slow after the shock of a 0-3 lost at home. Klopps words were there will be a reaction. Well the only reaction was leaving a player standing in acres of space unmarked to tap a winning goal in.

7.) 15 Apr 2024 13:39:11
AW - great post and hard to argue with any of it.

07 Feb 2024 08:18:32
Morning reds
Really can't believe how negative some of the posts about the team have been.
It was a poor performance from a number of players on the day and selection didn't work the way they have hoped but we still went in at half time 1-1 and looked better second until that terrible goal.

If someone had said at this stage in the season we would be in and around top of the league, still in our hands to win it, league cup final and still in fa cup and europa I think nearly every fan would have been made up with that at the start of the season.

Also over the last 4 weeks we have largely been without Salah, Endo, Sobbo, Trent, Robbo and Tsimikas plus longer term injuries to Thiago, Bajectic and Matip and we have still managed to keep a really high standard with the results.

Hopefully from here most on injuries and international are back, Thiago starting to play again as well, Bradley hopefully will keep building when he is back, and excited for the end of the season.

1.) 07 Feb 2024 08:40:56
pretty standard after a game we don't win mate.

2.) 07 Feb 2024 09:23:42
You should know by now Alex if we don’t win at a canter then everyone is rubbish and nobody cares or worked hard enough.

None of these players will ever make it at Liverpool. That Klopp fella can clear off too.

I still can’t believe we didn’t score at least 4 away to a title rival. Unforgivable.

3.) 07 Feb 2024 09:56:54
I don't think it's been that bad.

People are discussing the game which was a poor performance.

I don't think people are criticizing the team as a whole who have been fantastic this season.

We are in a great place. Not to mention a week to recover, returning players and a home game. No better way to get right back at it.

4.) 07 Feb 2024 10:31:32
It's a shame we couldn't deliver a performance on Sunday. But, the main thing is that it is still in our hands and we have a clear week to prepare for the next two fixtures and a lot of big players to return.

The only lingering frustration is that we have dropped too many points against this overrated Arsenal team in the last two seasons. We have started slowly in each of the last 5 against them. A frustrating pattern.

5.) 07 Feb 2024 13:18:25
It's cos we are used to not losing but no team in England is unbeaten this season. I think it's the performance which is the most annoying part especially after the quality of the chelsea match.

6.) 07 Feb 2024 13:33:25
For me though negativity is people just being realistic and our flaws need to be exposed and corrected . It's only one game in 17 yes but we have had a healthy slice of luck along the way. These players earn more than we could dream of so pressure in the form of negativity should keep players hungry to prove us wrong and for there own pride. To win this league we all know you have to be near perfect . and could still come 2nd.

7.) 07 Feb 2024 13:18:25
It's cos we are used to not losing but no team in England is unbeaten this season. I think it's the performance which is the most annoying part especially after the quality of the chelsea match.

8.) 07 Feb 2024 13:48:11
@Davey - did you miss the post about cashing in on TAA. In my honest opinion that’s a tad irrational.

9.) 07 Feb 2024 17:36:25
Hmm I dunno. I enjoy other fans views on the team, positive or negative.
If we was all superfans the site would be pretty dead wouldn’t it.

10.) 07 Feb 2024 17:54:48
Why do people always say “if someone had said at the beginning of the season” it’s irrelevant. Should we just be happy to be in and amongst it. Not in my opinion, that opinion is for the weak! The same people that hand out medals to all the kids at school just for taking part.

11.) 07 Feb 2024 19:13:30
Some posters literally can’t wait for a defeat so they can tell how Klopp got the team selection wrong, formation wrong, still playing the inverted full back crap, Trent should be sold ??, etc etc.
Forget that we’ve been on an incredibly great run of form, even with a fair few players out. That doesn’t matter on bit. No perspective ?‍♂️.

12.) 07 Feb 2024 19:55:21
no way would I want to sell Trent, but I would not want him to be our Captain either, yes he was poor against the Gunners, but, for me, when picking the side, I.

13.) 07 Feb 2024 20:06:02
no way would I sell Trent, one of our best players and I hope would stay at LFC for life, but would I want him Captain, no way,
for me, Klopp should never put a half fit Trent up against Martanelli, only one outcome, plus Konate then has to play two roles,
for me Klopp messed up big time, and yes Klopp is up there with the mighty Bill Shankly, but if you mess up at that level, its a big one .
Grav should not have played in front of Trent, he offers nothing right now and should be loaned out .
Gakpo not in the first eleven,
we have so many great players, and once endo and Bradley are back, then we should go on and win a Trophy or two .

14.) 07 Feb 2024 20:32:35
West Derby Wanderer3, that was a good one, isn't it? Pretty sure the poster wanted a reaction and well he got it cos I've been on this forum and at no point have I ever read that TAA should be potentially sold. Klopp messed up and he prolly knows it more than anyone else so we move.

@Alex, it's what happens whenever we don't win or better yet outright lose. The same people singing the players' and manager's praises 3 days before, will be the same ones saying how they knew we would crumble before the game and literally say things like, "Oh, it's City's title now".

So at the first site of adversity, they throw their toys out the pram, throw their hands up as well as the towel, as if City and Arsenal are just going to let us win the league w/ o a fight. Standard procedure for the most part.

15.) 07 Feb 2024 21:35:17
It was me who posed the question about TAA
Quite clearly stated that it wasn’t based on one performance and that to me he’s looked like he’s not enjoying his football.

16.) 07 Feb 2024 22:29:42
Oli stop speaking down to everyone. You’re not as big as a Liverpool fan you make out mate.

17.) 08 Feb 2024 00:45:27
‘pressure in the form of negativity should keep players hungry to prove us wrong’

I wouldn’t want to work for you mate ?.

18.) 08 Feb 2024 08:01:33
It's perfectly fine to praise the team when they do well but all out hatred starts just coz people have said negative stuff about the team.
It swings both ways in all walks of life.
Just hope everyone can enjoy the rest of the season.

19.) 08 Feb 2024 08:16:19
@ Oli your statement about nobody wanted Trent sold is incorrect. I for one would welcome the selling of Trent I've repeatedly expressed this opinion. There was numerous other last season also.
I think the team would benefit without him.
Thankfully klopps gone at the end of the season. Now a new rebuild without Trent, Salah, Diaz and Thiago.
The future really can be an LFC dominance.

20.) 08 Feb 2024 10:22:00
Lol Walter you're going to make everyone meltdown mate, calm the jokes down haha. I love how adding Thiago into the mix makes it look like you're been serious. Excellent mate.

21.) 08 Feb 2024 10:27:49
Same after every defeat tbh lol - in fairness, many of the posts are fair enough criticisms of tactics, players being poor on the day etc and that's fair enough, you support a team you'll celebrate when they win, be annoyed when they lose and then forums like this give us all the chance to debate possible signings, tactics used in games, possible tweaks we'd like to see etc - no bother at all with those discussions

Then we have some that post that seem to delight in losses and we get the usual 'Klopp out' or 'he's been found out' or 'rubbish manager' then the player bashing starts as well and lads you have to understand that it was very hard on those guys cos we hadn't lost in ages so jeez they had to bite their tongues for soooo long ??

In fairness a defeat like this was coming, we all knew it, we have rode our luck in games for a while and underperformed in a lot but still found a way to win -I seem to find though the longer you go unbeaten then the more the pressure grows, we lost one game - the team played very poorly and deserved to lose, it happens. None of us like it but games like this happen every single season

The big match for me is the next one - absolutely have to win and then just keep winning, and to just focus on winning our own games. I will say though, given the midfield overhaul etc in the summer and how we played last season, I never expected to be anywhere near the position we are in - just enjoy the ride lol lads, though I would hope we could win whatever we can to send Klopp off in style.

22.) 08 Feb 2024 11:48:43
Yeah I don’t mind fair criticism such as there were some really poor individual performances and by no means should be settle for mediocrity but some of the posts claiming due to this one result it highlights how poor the players are and they need to be replaced as they aren’t good enough or they it highlights our major weakness in this area or that is completely wide of the mark. Our best 11 out there we would have won the game, we were missing some key players, few not fully fit yet and it showed.

23.) 08 Feb 2024 13:31:41
Well said Bill.

24.) 08 Feb 2024 14:34:29
Spot on, @Alex. brilliantly put. You can criticise the perf., the players and the manager for poor performances and what you think are bad selections and strategies esp. since the performance collectively was too bad to ignore. That's fair and it does not mean you think you know more than the players nor the manager cos that's just ludicrous logic.

But to just start chirping away saying we are crap (yet only first real loss of the season, not arsed about Spurs), players are now bad after going 15 games in the PL unbeaten, still in 4 comps. (the only English club in this situation), and now saying we won't win the title anymore yet saying before the game how great we have it, is just nonsense I have no time for.

25.) 08 Feb 2024 15:45:48
People do realise that it doesn’t matter if it’s 2 fans or 200 thousand fans that want Trent or another player sold then it has zero bearing on what the club actually do.

It’s all just opinions. I enjoy reading them all ( well maybe not all ?)

26.) 08 Feb 2024 15:59:11
I'm no psychologist but it really becomes hilarious at times. The "positive" guys do their thing and imply, or even directly say, that the "negative" posters are not true fans because they aren't supporting the team through thick and thin. Now, as I saw on the last live chat, the "negative" posters are saying the same thing. Implying that the "positive" ones are not true supporters since they don't criticize the club when it's absolutely required to do so!

Sigh. You can't make this stuff up.

27.) 08 Feb 2024 18:09:45
Oh my dear Salah hope you're well. I just need to point out this was no joke. I stand firmly in my statement.
Just feel the players I mentioned are not quite right for us. I'll concede this might change with a new manager and a new system but for me right now those players have been part of the problem.

28.) 08 Feb 2024 20:26:29
Part of what problem?
The problem of being top of the table and already in a final?
That's a problem?

29.) 08 Feb 2024 21:03:19
@ Flash the red the problem with Trent as much as people won't agree he's such a liability at RB. Many goals conceded because of him over the seasons. He just seems to coast through games. Yes a few decent passes but reminds me of Rashford never consistent.
Salah hinders the team by constantly shooting straight at the keeper when tap ins were available. To be fair he has vastly improved his assists. But it's all came too late for me.
Diaz just hasn't hit the heights required for the Premier league. For me he flatters to deceive. Just not enough goals or assists. A new player could vastly improve this situation.
Thiago I am devastated for. Just always injured. A joy to watch but it's too infrequent and he hasn't been outstanding.

30.) 09 Feb 2024 00:30:16
I am very well thank you very much Walter, hope you are too mate :) .

31.) 09 Feb 2024 12:19:54
@ArAy, it’s a bit like the arts vs science debate that students (like me, back in the day) talk crap about when they’ve had a couple of shandies. If you take philosophy and theoretical physics which are in a lot of people’s perception the extreme ends of the scale, they are actually after the same thing - same with the ‘positives’ and the ‘negatives’ on here - we just want Liverpool to be the best.

29 May 2023 08:02:57
Morning Eds and reds
Poor end to a poor season all round really, at least we did improve towards the end and finish as high as we could after looking like we could have been in a similar position to Chelsea at one point.

I'm glad in some ways that the Villa draw and Southampton performance yesterday happened and I think a massive run of consecutive wins would have really masked some of the issues.

Yesterday was the perfect example of the issues we have, some of the players a bit to lax and casual, Bobby losing the ball in midfield for their goal a perfect example, Trent when defending for the first and a couple of other times really poor, fabinho just half a yard off has been a constant theme.

I think if Trent is moving into midfield he will need to work harder as he will no longer be the spare man, if he is to stay in defence and come into midfield we have to get better defensive options and a fabinho replacement.
Fabinho doesn't have pace or even seem to have the desire to cover the spaces anymore, matip isn't quick enough or smart enough with his decision making to adapt, tsimikas is poor defensively so can't be left as one of three and think Gomez needs to be a cover option for full back and centre half not one of first three options.

1.) 29 May 2023 11:20:16
To persevere with this system (I’m not convinced tbh), the three defenders must be physical specimens and exceptional in 1v1.

In addition to that, we cannot afford to give the ball away cheaply in the final third like we have done all this season.

26 Feb 2023 09:09:21
Morning Eds and reds
What do people think is going on with curtis Jones and carvalho?
I understand young players are fed in at certain times but these two don't seems to be getting a look in at all. Playing lazy players with bad attitudes like keita who is going in the summer anyway, or players horribly out of form and don't looo bothered like fabinho ahead of them.
Last time carvalho started I think was wolves and he was energetic and lively and played some decent stuff, don't think he has seen the pitch since then while same players who have shown nothing are guaranteed their place week in and week out.

1.) 26 Feb 2023 09:17:16
Only Klopp can answer that question! I don’t know the rationale behind the signing of Carvalho. He doesn’t fit in with 4-3-3. The same for Elliot and Jones. Yer we signed him!

2.) 26 Feb 2023 09:22:49
OP, you can apply that to a Nst Phillips who is is the only consistently fit CB we have who never plays yet we have the dreadful Matip and the “too “nice” Gomez and a poor VVD playing every game and playing poorly. Only Klopp can answer that question, I’m afraid.

3.) 26 Feb 2023 09:28:23
I agree somewhat with what you say about playing someone like keita who's leaving and useless. I don't ever want to see Keita play a game for us again. Yesterday was a prime example of Keita absolutely brainless and a liability. But I don't think carvalho is a center midfielder. Maybe he will be one day but not atm. Who should play instead of Fabinho at 6? Certainly not jones or carvalho. Hendo was terrible in the 6 yesterday and Baj can't play every game he's 18.

4.) 26 Feb 2023 09:43:56
Certainly concerning that Curtis isn’t getting a look in at all. If he cannot get picked ahead of Hendo Milner Keita Elliott Bajcetic then how can he have a future at the club?

I’d like to see Carvalho come on as sub in the false 9 position. Perhaps he’s not training well at the moment.

5.) 26 Feb 2023 10:01:11
Van Dijk is not the same player but he has to play, imo.
I'm not sure I can the same about Jones or Carvalho. We're really struggling for midfielders and Carvalho is not a midfielder but I don't Jones changes anything. I think Elliott falls into the same category as Carvalho. They're not strong enough for the midfield or quick enough to be in our first choice front three.

6.) 26 Feb 2023 10:22:05
Carvalho and Elliot are still kids, they will be a different kettle of fish in 2 or 3 years.

I suspect Jones, like Kelleher, Tsimikas, Phillips, Williams (off the top of my head) is never going to be a regular. Question is does he / they settle for being squad players or move on to make better use of their talents elsewhere.

7.) 26 Feb 2023 10:53:35
It was pitiful to see Hendo got skinned by Sunday Oliseh on right wing, nearly concede a penalty.

8.) 26 Feb 2023 11:26:13
I read that with Jones last injury he has to be managed carefully whatever that means.

9.) 26 Feb 2023 12:35:28
Olise looks fairly quick, to me. Henderson is getting on a bit but he didn't give away a penalty or allow Olise to cross the ball.
He was outpaced by a younger, quicker player and was adjudged to have to taken him out. Hardly pitiful.

10.) 26 Feb 2023 12:52:17
Leekuanyew, Sunday Oliseh is an ex Nigerian international while Michael Olise is a French U21 international. And on him, I think that kid is the next best thing and I think he should be a player we should be looking at. I think he is VERY promising, imo.

11.) 26 Feb 2023 12:55:41
Carvalho wasn’t a kid for Fulham where he played a full season without a fear. If you send him back there today they won’t treat him as a kid and same goes to Elliot. When they play poor, they are kids and when they have a terrific games they miraculously becomes Xavi and Iniesta of the world.
I have said above Carvalho was a pointless signing. He simply doesn’t fit in and there was no need to sign a kid who’s neither a midfielder nor a winger.
I also recall posters saying how these two are replacing Keita and Ox this season and we didn’t need a midfielder.

12.) 26 Feb 2023 15:05:55
Why can't Bajcetic play every game because he’s 18? Has anyone told Pedri that at Barca? Or does he play every game for national team too? I don't understand this nonsense. It they’re good enough, they start.

13.) 27 Feb 2023 00:32:44
Technically speaking we haven’t needed a replacement for Naby / Ox as they haven’t played ?.

04 Feb 2023 19:33:34
Really confused by some of the posts on here after the game today.
Seems to be a real focus on FSG out.
I agree some investment and revamp of the midfield will be needed this summer and last summer would have been a better time for this but I don't think anyone has been definitively told this was down to FSG? I remember with Van Dijk klopp chose to wait a year for the player he really wanted rather than take investment into his second choice, maybe this was the case this summer and in January?

It was klopp and his staff that have identified Nunez who hasn't been as effective as he should for the price, gakpo who although I think will come good I don't really understand the need for him longer term, if we needed short term impact for injuries then a prem experienced player would have been better, Arthur who I wasn't confident about even before the injuries and has ended up a complete disaster.

It is also down to klopp and the team of recruitment staff not identifying earlier in previous seasons that the likes of matip, keita, ox should have been moved on as they are in huge wages and offer nothing more than young players could and are so unreliable with injuries as well.

I love klopp, his infectious attitude, the way he understands the club, the understanding of the people and I realise he will always be more popular than FSG but surely the issues in the pitch are more down to him, his team of coaches and the recruitment which they also have a strong hand in.

Spending fortunes doesn't guarantee success but the very minimum you expect to see in your team is effort, organisation, clear strategies and at the moment I am seeing almost none if these at all. Also persisting with the same formations, plans, patterns of play etc with mo real obviously changes or attempt to change seems like madness as it hasn't worked all season, bar the game against city, Napoli at home and Bournemouth I don't really think we've played particularly well in any games even if we have got results in some.

1.) 04 Feb 2023 19:48:41
You can pay £1 billion and it wouldn’t have prevented the first two goals. Any player can make a stupid decision and those decisions as defenders you are going to get punished.

Joe going for a wander down the left and then leaving a huge gap which robbo doesn’t notice and matip was to stupid to see.

Joe needlessly heading a cross back into the worst place possible.

Matip completely getting away with one after getting needlessly mugged on the ball.

Thiago sauntering back and completely missing nunes steaming into the space behind him.

Really poor individual errors.

2.) 04 Feb 2023 19:54:40
I have seen many more posts against the players and Klopp today. Not too many about the owners. I agree there was cash it’s not The owners fault if £100m was spent on the forward line and they aren’t delivering. I expected more from Nunez today. Gakpo, not sure.

3.) 04 Feb 2023 19:59:45
Because regardless of whether Klopp has made mistakes or not, the self-sustaining model is ironically not sustainable at all to keep you at the top. Nailing 90% of transfers isn't sustainable, even Brighton don't manage that. Whether you have a positive or negative opinion of FSG or not there certainly shouldn't be any loyalties towards them, and the bottom line is they have taken us as far as I can and where we are now it is probably best for everyone (including them) to part ways.

4.) 04 Feb 2023 20:12:21
The fact FSG have put the club up for sale or are looking for a sale tells me they are also very much FSG out as well.

Not unless there’s a billionaire out there who wants to invest their money and then have zero say in what’s happening at the club then the investment option is dead in the water.

5.) 04 Feb 2023 20:14:28
??? these FSG apologists are getting boring.

6.) 04 Feb 2023 20:19:09
It’s because of the frustration over being 10th in the league for net spend on transfer value alone! I know other things come in to it, like wages, revenue and other spend (stadium), but that fact alone is an utter disgrace and sums up FSG as an ownership model. If your rivals are out spending you year in year out it’s going to eventually catch up. Wolves have a higher net spend over the last 10 years! Jokes!

7.) 04 Feb 2023 20:21:11
When your 9th/ 10th in the premier league. And the club doesn’t attempt to fix the obvious problems in the team whilst the window is open.
That should teach you all you need to know about the direction of the Remaining games in the season.
Tools Downed. By everyone involved.

8.) 04 Feb 2023 20:23:43
It’s not the owner’s fault that Salah can’t beat a man and he thinks he playing rugby when he shots. The owners didn’t buy Gakpo or Nunez. There has been enough money for the team to be doing far far better.

9.) 04 Feb 2023 20:26:48
again, in my view what is needed is a strong minded director of football to set the direction for the club and get the players necessary. It doesn't have to take big obnoxious Chelsea type spending. It's having the best scouting team and setting a clear direction. That is what we do not have right now. Again, in my view. I could be completely wrong about that.

10.) 04 Feb 2023 20:28:58
Spot on thom43. They will make there fortune and I suppose good luck to them, never liked them but I suppose they are what they are, businessmen whose only care or responsibilityis to themselves. As u say making 90% of transfers work ain't just guna happen all the time, if u spend less than everton, villa or wolves why expect to be better than them. there a reason the team with biggest budget usually wins the league in most countries.

11.) 04 Feb 2023 20:46:58
So they didn’t break the entire wage structure for salah last season when everyone was calling for?
Our net spend isn’t huge but our wage bill is big.
Our squad is better than our league position and our performances.
Week on week we are getting no better and that’s down to manager and players.
I’m not their biggest fan by any means but there are bigger issues than buying a midfielder and again we don’t even know if that’s down to klopp being stubborn or they not spending.

12.) 04 Feb 2023 20:53:34
Until Klopp has been backed in the manner similar to all top teams I refuse to turn my back on him. His tactics haven’t always been great this season. However he’s been hung out to dry by these parasites. Remember the Rodgers days under FSG, they refused to spend money with him. Difference is Klopp has shrouded the ineptitude of these owners by doing great things on their sell to buy model. They need to go.

13.) 04 Feb 2023 21:11:29
Zero blame should be pointed at nunez or gakpo. They’ve joined a team that overnight has become a flop.

Injuries are a huge factor, but even then an injury ravaged season should see us sitting in 4/ 5th. The lads that are available to play are embarrassing themselves on the pitch. Don’t deserve to wear the shirt at the moment.

Drop salah, give the kid doak a run of games. He can’t do any worse.
Maybe play one up top and everyone else behind the ball, focus on not losing. Winning isn’t even within our grasp at the moment.

14.) 04 Feb 2023 21:32:28
regards Nunez, there's a fire missing from him since he returned from that red card. I wonder if it's a bit of him and Gakpo trying to figure out how they fit? But those all action displays from him have gone a bit quiet lately. He used to be at thick of everything. we can't afford to have him playing with no fire cos we're getting nothing form the other wing.

15.) 04 Feb 2023 21:57:55
Agreed Digger, I think the fact we can't afford to make many mistakes is the reason we end up 'monitoring' players for so long until other teams swoop in and sign them.

16.) 04 Feb 2023 22:08:23
You can’t say Nunez and Gakpo are blameless, they cost £100m and should contribute something.

17.) 04 Feb 2023 22:24:29
Markp08 they will contribute something and it will be expected of them once they have had a chance to settle.

I agree they should be doing better than they are. But they are not to blame for the crazy rubbish season we are having.

They are like newborns at the club. The league winning, champions league winning players around them are the main culprits in my opinion.

18.) 04 Feb 2023 23:47:25
Gakpo is awful really poor no idea why we bought him he offers nothing and is average at best.

19.) 05 Feb 2023 05:39:55
Gakpo is new to the league and is being played out of position so I don’t know why people are blaming him. Nunez on the other hand, clearly has potential but will that potential be realised? Because he couldn’t score in a brothel at the moment. As for Salah, I genuinely believe he isn’t bothered any more. At the least the other two make an effort. Hendo and Milner, as good a servant they have been to the club, they don’t have the legs anymore. Our youngsters are talented but too lightweight, as for our defence, gomez and matip, as should have been sold. Instead we sell mane who I feel wanted to stay but realised that he would always play second fiddle to salah and clearly wasn’t appreciAted enough (wasn’t he one of the lowest earners in the first 11?) . I’d rather play Nat Phillips than either of gomez or matip, he’s basic but in times like this, you need to get back to basics. Additionally if these are ljinders tactics that we are using, then he needs to go, and klopp needs to stop effing around, pull his thumb out his @rse, and sort the team out himself. If that means dropping established players than so be it but he needs to get tough with this team now.

{Ed001's Note - Mane had asked to go, he has done this at every club he has been at, what on earth makes you think he wanted to stay?}

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If we can only raise enough by selling Wilson and grujic for one signing would you expect him to opt for thiago, an attacker or cb? Do you think the attacker would be a striker or a winger more in the style of mane or salah?

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08 Feb 2024 11:48:43
Yeah I don’t mind fair criticism such as there were some really poor individual performances and by no means should be settle for mediocrity but some of the posts claiming due to this one result it highlights how poor the players are and they need to be replaced as they aren’t good enough or they it highlights our major weakness in this area or that is completely wide of the mark. Our best 11 out there we would have won the game, we were missing some key players, few not fully fit yet and it showed.

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04 Feb 2023 20:46:58
So they didn’t break the entire wage structure for salah last season when everyone was calling for?
Our net spend isn’t huge but our wage bill is big.
Our squad is better than our league position and our performances.
Week on week we are getting no better and that’s down to manager and players.
I’m not their biggest fan by any means but there are bigger issues than buying a midfielder and again we don’t even know if that’s down to klopp being stubborn or they not spending.

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03 Sep 2022 22:18:14
Yeah we did nearly win the quadruple but that was through others players shining, the bulk of the good performances that won us tight games and got us those vital points etc was through mane, Diaz and have no a consistently available Thiago. Since that tactical switch and the focus on that side of the play mo’s form fell off a cliff and I think Trent finished with roughly the same number of assists as he was on at around Xmas.

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14 Jan 2022 10:20:19
I understand C.V. has severely damaged our finances but also we havenâ€™t helped ourselves.
Was the money spent on Thiago and the wages spent on Thiago necessary? The system we play didnâ€™t really require a player like him and I posted similar at the time and given his injury record we added another injury prone player.

We have also heavily overpriced certain players, I know sometimes that works in your favour like Brewster but across the board we could have got money in for Phillips, karius, Adrian, neco Williams, origi, keita, AOC, minamino, Ben Williams, van der berg, mane the list goes on.
Yes these players would need replacing but for me, the amount they play like keita, AOC, neco, Phillips, minamino, Williams, van der berg all could be replaced with the likes of Morton, Dixon bonner, Gordon, Elliot and Jones all being used more. It wouldnâ€™t just bring in some money but some wages are very high and wouldnâ€™t hugely weaken the squad.

Everyone had C.V. issues we canâ€™t claim we are the only club effected and there is nothing we can do.

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