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13 May 2017 22:33:55
without Mane we are more like the Liverpool of last season. A win here, a draw there or sometimes a lose. Whether Klopp promised us a league title or not, tomorrow all we want is a win. But if we don't win, it won't be the end of the world. We are Liverpool.
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1.) 14 May 2017 04:22:47
Liverpool will keep going if we lose to West Ham but it is debatable whether Klopp should carry on. He has brought charisma, occasionally attractive football and a reconnection with the fans. But very little else.
I doubt whether FSG will make any hasty decisions, especially with such a long contract, but Top 4 should be bare minimum this season. If we fail to achieve it, i would suggest he is no better qualified to lead us to a league title and than Rogers was.
Hopefully, it is all just negative speculation and we will thrash the Hammers but, for now, my faith in Klopp is dependent on how he can use his famous man-management skills and galvanise a strong finish to the season.

{Ed001's Note - good to see the knee jerk reactionary fans are out in force who now base their thinking on one game in a season!}


2.) 14 May 2017 05:00:09
Its not the one game Ed001. Failure to get top4 will be a big failure on Klopp's part. He was brought in to win the league, not finish 5th. That is blatant failure to meet the targets given to you by your superiors. We had no European football to deal with and the whole world knew we needed a left back and a couple of wide players yet those issues were never addressed.
Yes, it takes time to build a squad but Klopp knew that time is not a luxury afforded to premier league managers when taking the job. Recently, he has been more reactive than proactive. And as earlier mentioned, if he has no faith in any of the squad players (the first 11 aside), then why are they still here? Why have those players not been replaced then? Sometimes you just got to throw some players in the deep end and see how they do.

{Ed001's Note - sorry but that is false. You are talking about signings, which is not his job. So saying he never got the players he wanted, as we know he wanted a left back, surely that is something you can't hold against him?

Secondly, it clearly is based on one game, as that post 100% states that his backing of Klopp comes down to this result. The ridiculous comparison with Rodgers is just even more reactionary. Rodgers destroyed the team, left it in a complete mess, Klopp is having ro rebuild that. It is far too early to judge him. What he has shown is a better idea of what he needs to sign during the transfer windows, but has been let down by the club. Rodgers just wanted to collect attacking midfielders with no idea how to use them. Klopp wants full backs, as he knows the ones we have are not good enough. He wants a left winger, as we are weak in that area. He has a plan of what he wants and is looking to build towards it. That is far more than we have had in recent years.

Typical though, fans have no patience. One full season, without the players he wanted, is now deemed enough to condemn a man. If this kind of stupidity continues, we will never win a thing again.}


3.) 14 May 2017 05:43:46
The problem with patience is that it is not afforded to managers in the premier league. Its about delivering when the time is ripe, which is the last two games now. Bottle it and we are back to another rebuilding phase. Man Utd and Arsenal (both with UCL) next season will strengthen considerably, while Spurs, Chelsea and Man city will be looking to consolidate on what they achieved this season.
And the OP is right when the entire season and the club's foreseeable future will rest on what happens in the next two games. The implications will be long lasting and failure sets us back a couple of seasons. Everyone knows that. With LFC's transfer record and lack of management capabilities, I really do not see us doing a Leicester or Spurs any time soon.

{Ed001's Note - it is not afforded to managers in the Prem because the fans turn on them far too easily.}


4.) 14 May 2017 06:48:32
He has had a whole season to achieve top 4. Unfortunately its now come to two must-win games. Im not turning on him but i am beginning to doubt him and question whether he is as good a manager as we all thought when he arrived. Ill admit im really not sure whether he's truely talented or not but the next couple of games might show whether he is capable of getting results when they're most needed.

{Ed001's Note - if this was next season, I would understand, but it is not and this is still largely the players he has inherited. We know they have a problem with bottle. We know they lack on pitch leadership. This is a problem that can only be fixed by changing most of the players. Personally I would say that the key is whether we have made progress from the shambles that was in place when he took over. Which it is clear to see, despite the completely idiotic stats people are putting out comparing him to Rodgers, we have. We missed out on Europe last season, so the fact that we are assured European football this season is a step forward.}


5.) 14 May 2017 07:52:25
Thanks for your common sence reply Ed1. We have definitely made progress as you say Europe already confirmed,70 points and the chance of champions league (71 points would have got second last season) plus I don't care what Ed2 says any team that losses their captain, along with couts, mane, Lallana, matip, can for large chunks of the season would affect any type rhythm we had at the start of the season.


6.) 14 May 2017 09:55:19
Ed, whilst I agree with most of what you say I disagree that Klopp needs to rebuild the team, Rodgers left a very solid platform for him. The only real gaps were a pacy forward and a left back. There are a number of other positions we can improve but we wern't deficient in any of them.

{Ed001's Note - centre backs, midfield, right back, goalkeeper, all needed when Klopp arrived, as well as the two you rmentioned. Are you sure you are really thinking this through? Rodgers left a mess through his utter incompetence as a manager.}


7.) 14 May 2017 13:09:48
Of course ed, those positions are all ones we could improve but they weren't a shambles. I think you're making excuses for Klopp by saying that. Klopp had a core six or seven players he could build on and another few to back them up.

{Ed001's Note - they weren's a shambles? Are you being funny? Did you not watch our defence with Skrtel in it? Have you not seen how bad Clyne is? Or the fact that Can had barely even had a game in midfield? Or how bad even the ones you can defend were playing when Klopp came in? It is not excuses, it is reality. It is ridiculous that people want to change history to suit their bias by pretending we had anything other than a poor side, in a complete mess, when Klopp came in. Most people wanted rid of the likes of Lallana etc. Klopp transformed him, now he has even got Mignolet looking less like the useless tit who flapped at everything and conceded every shot on target and more like an actual goalkeeper. However the knee jerks will still find lies to cover up their ridiculous childish immature reactions to every match.}


8.) 14 May 2017 16:11:55
That's my point ed, lallana etc aren't bad players. The team was underperforming but the squad had quality. It needed polishing but laying the problems Klopp's had on the inadequacy of the squad is wrong and shows your bias not the other way round.

{Ed001's Note - no it doesn't, we were a poor team that has been improved. Players like Lallana were not good enough, it wasn't that they were underperforming, he was playing as well or better than he ever had. What happened was that the coaching improved them, like it has Mignolet etc. They were not underperforming, that was the level those players were at. It needed more than polishing.}


 

 

05 Apr 2017 14:37:32
Eds What is your opinion on Mane as a player. I think we will sorely miss him but hopefully we manage to cope with him unlike at the start of the year.

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{Ed001's Note - my opinion is that he is an extremely skilful and lightning quick player who causes opposition defences a lot of problems. He is injured now though, so Klopp will just have to find a way to cope without him.}


1.) 05 Apr 2017 15:20:16
Hey ed, how are the summer transfers rated by the coaching staff? Personally, I like all the new guys, would give A+ to Mane, A- to Matip and a solid B to Wijnaldum, but I am a little worried about Karius and Grujic.
Karius should get games next season to start establishing his long-term mojo, and I hope Grujic's acclimatisation has not been wrecked by the injury, and he will get more of a rotational role next season.
Is that the general plan?

{Ed001's Note - Karius is expected to be number one next season and Grujic will have to get games or we lose him.}


2.) 05 Apr 2017 16:07:11
So no Pickford?


3.) 05 Apr 2017 16:03:58
Good to know. Have you heard anything new about Danny Ward's chances of taking the no. 2, then? I know we are monitoring goalkeepers, but I see little good in bringing yet another backup.

{Ed001's Note - he would stagnate as a number 2, that is not the plan for him at his age.}


 

 

13 Mar 2017 11:32:49
Hi ED,

Will the final Sharkopod be ready for this week? Read a post where you mentioned that you will be down with it by Monday or Tuesday.

Thanks.

Builder

{Ed002's Note - It won't be the final Sharkopod but there is a chance that by tomorrow afternoon it will the tere to wow you.}


1.) 13 Mar 2017 11:38:54
If we don't sign griezmann and Suarez back I'm not going to be wowed ed. This better be good news!

Looking forward to it!


2.) 13 Mar 2017 17:47:37
Will it feature KIRIKOU? 🤔.

{Ed002's Note - Every clun needs a hairdresser nowadays.}


 

 

01 Mar 2017 13:25:09
EDs,

I am curious to know about our centreback situation. With Sakho likely to be sold, Lovren not dependable and Gomez not seen as ready.

Who do you see as a viable option to partner Matip come next season? I saw in another post mentioning Nastasic, do you think Schalke would be keen to sell if we were to make an approach?

Thank you.

Builder

{Ed002's Note - Sakho is not a first team squad player so will not be replaced. That leaves the club with four centre backs, scluding Lucas, and given they play two and not three that should be sufficient given the U23s can provide cover. Nastasic is of interest to Zenit St Petersburg but Schalke are not looking to sell him.}


1.) 01 Mar 2017 13:43:37
So in general, Liverpool are not looking to add any centreback (s) for next season?

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool has not been looking specifically at centre backs. Klopp said he wanted four and that is what he has. If they were to let one go they will certainly need to be replaced.}


2.) 01 Mar 2017 13:46:46
not sure that we should include Lucas as a centre back, I still think we should sign someone who can deal with the likes of Huth and co .

{Ed002's Note - I think it would be a luxury to sign a player just to deal with Robert Huth.}


3.) 01 Mar 2017 13:56:27
Better just to buy Robert Huth 😆.


4.) 01 Mar 2017 14:25:47
But how many of these 4 centre backs are good enough firstly for a top 4 team and then a title challenging team?

{Ed002's Note - I understand that Liverpool fans don't like the Liverpool players. Klopp purchased two of them.}


5.) 01 Mar 2017 16:45:46
Ed it's not that we don't like them, but some are just not good enough to take us forward. It's not like this doesn't happen for other teams. There are players that just can't cut it at this level and usually they are given chances. It's nothing personal, well I hope it's not anyway.

{Ed002's Note - I understand perfectly.}


6.) 01 Mar 2017 17:25:05
Ed can you tell us why Lucas started ahead of klavan. I think that saids a lot .

{Ed002's Note - I did it on impulse and take full responsibility.}


7.) 01 Mar 2017 19:09:45
just to mention Ed, that I said to deal with the likes of Huth and co, we could not deal with him from set plays, or Vardy from open play, so it was no surprise when we got beat, Klopp I hope has taken a few notes from this defeat, if Giroild spelling, plays on Sat, against Lucas, were in trouble once again, its not Lucas fault, he has been a great player for the club, just not good enough for a team looking for a top four place, in fact how many of our team would get into any of the now top four teams, like I have said, we are a top six team, very difficult to break into the top four, its going to take Klopp another 2 or 3 seasons, if he is still here .


8.) 01 Mar 2017 19:21:08
Lucas had a MOTM performance vs Spurs and Klavan has not covered himself with glory of late so it was only normal that Lucas started especially, with Lovren out injured.


9.) 01 Mar 2017 17:32:09
Ed002 cracking me up! Thank you for the laugh mate. I think you're right too Ron, let's buy Huth and be done with it! 😂.


10.) 01 Mar 2017 17:37:05
How about giving us your opinion on whether our four CB's are good enough Ed002, whether Klopp did or didn't buy them.

{Ed002's Note - The most concern has to be over Gomez who has never played centre back at this level but has been told by Klopp he is one of the four he wants. The others three are experienced and decent centre backs - Lovren has played for a long time in the Premier League, Matip has done well but his decision making in Germany was questioned, and Klaven replaced the similarly aged, commited and goal scoring Skrtel who Klopp didn't want.}


 

 

 

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15 Nov 2017 08:28:52
Ed does that mean our CB target is now De Vrij or someone else since we badly need changes there?

Thank you.

Builder

{Ed002's Note - This has been done to death - Liverpool will look to add a centre back - there is interest in De Vrij but he is no longer available to sign a pre-contract but he is avaiable at a fee. Others I have previously explained, but don't rule out Howedes.}


 

 

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19 Jul 2017 13:08:15
{Ed002's Note - I would ignore everything to do with money as it confuses. It is not a case of spending £65.21M on Keita and £71.6M on van Dijk as have already been agreed as "done deals", it is a question of when payment is due to be paid. }

I thought you said the fee can be agreed, the main issue is just the structure of the payments.

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19 Jul 2017 12:49:04
Does the couple of things include the payments structure of the fee?

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{Ed002's Note - What fee?}


 

 

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07 Jul 2017 11:35:14
VVD is not better than him though IMO. A player is quality if he is premier league proven? Christensen of Chelsea is Bundesliga proven and he is a better CB. If your analogy was correct, Chelsea would have sold Christensen instead of Ake who is PL proven.

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07 Jul 2017 08:04:55
Eds when you say Jose Jimenez has dropped down the pecking order, do you mean in the Atletico starting XI or Liverpool's interest?

I thought he was not available. I would take him over VVD any day.

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{Ed002's Note - At Atletico.}


 

 

 

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31 Oct 2017 08:16:34
When you say Koulibaly is the best available option, does that mean Napoli are keen to sell? I think he is the one guy who can fix most of defensive problems, him and Ward in the team can help us a great deal.

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{Ed001's Note - not keen to sell no, but they would have sold him early on in the window.}


 

 

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12 Sep 2017 13:24:33
Sarr and Issa Diop are good young players.

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17 May 2017 15:03:39
With Matip and Lovren likely to miss some games due to their constant niggles, a 3rd and 4th choice centre back is a necessity. Selling Gomez is not a vaible option, the boy is coming back from a serious injury and I didn't expect much game time for him this season.

But next season things might changed, he might get his chance. His fitness would have improved then probably. And as it has been mentioned before, Liverpool is not looking to add any CBs. A loan rather than a sale would make sense at this time. There are no quality CBs available currently, VVD for the famous quoted 60 million is also not going to happen.

In an ideal world we would have Matip, Lovren, Gomez and Sakho as our CBs but Klopp didn't handle this department very well. Ed002, do you see Gomez moving since you mentioned that there is interest in him?

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10 May 2017 10:47:35
Didn't they announce that starting from 2018/ 19 the top leagues will be guaranteed four places?

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09 May 2017 09:42:04
I would rather compare them after 122 games. And also compare their records in cup competitions.

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