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20 Aug 2020 16:50:39
Ed01 have we still got interest in Ben Godfrey? I see comments we have enquired into the price of Mandi which confuses me with regards to the home grown situation we have in the squad at the minute. Is there any other home grown talent we have enquires about? Thanks in advance.

CyKlopps

{Ed001's Note - Norwich are not keen on selling anyone and have no need to do so. There is not a lot of home grown talent around.}


 

 

10 Jan 2018 13:43:13
Ed01 a friend of mine who usually knows his stuff regarding transfers has said we are looking to buy Mario Goetze or bring him in on loan for the rest of the season? have you heard anything similar to this? I know he's a favorite of Klopps and we showed interest before prior to signing Mane. wouldn't mind him tbh, I know he's had his problems but I think Klopp could get him back to his best.

CyKlopps

{Ed001's Note - I don't know mate. Not heard anything about him as a possibility.}


1.) 10 Jan 2018 13:59:02
No worries thanks anyway ed.

{Ed001's Note - welcome.}


2.) 10 Jan 2018 14:00:15
Eds had gotze not have a serious injury and therefore hasn't been the player from 2-3 seasons ago? Cheers.

{Ed001's Note - I don't know, I haven't kept track of his career sorry.}


3.) 10 Jan 2018 14:15:53
Two years ago he stopped playing football all together because it was discovered he had some sort of muscle disorder and his career nearly ended. Due to privacy laws it was not ever disclosed, but would make no sense in signing a player who may not pass a physical. Everyone forget about the Loic Remy transfer.


4.) 10 Jan 2018 14:24:43
I maybe wrong. But wasn't it an issue something similar to what Fletcher had when at utd and by diet etc has been able to keep on top of it? Something to do with the stomach. Be interesting one as his career has stalled since move to Bayern from Dortmund. But I am sure I read somewhere when asked who was most gifted player he had worked with. Klopp answer was Gotze.


5.) 10 Jan 2018 14:25:25
Gotze was diagnosed last year with Myopathy (Muscle weakening disease) which has hindered his career so i'd have my doubts.


6.) 10 Jan 2018 15:55:58
Tbh, I'm not saying he would be a good signing but it wouldn't be out the blue, regarding the injury he seems to have put it behind him this season and played 14-15 times in all competition he is a winner tho and our team does miss that kind of person scores big game goals, but then I don't think he is what we need.


7.) 10 Jan 2018 16:26:44
To be fair, if Gotze quit tomorrow he'll forever be able to remember scoring the winner in the World Cup final. There's a whole career right there.


8.) 10 Jan 2018 17:19:12
Given his history, especially with Klopp, a loan with an option to buy would be a perfect scenario, imo. Not risking the whole transfer fee until Klopp can see if he is back to his best. He's played in the CL this season, so would be cup tied unfortunately.

This would also fit with the rumours dribbling out from journos that we are pushing for a name we have been linked to in the past.

Nice theory, CyKlopps, I like it!


 

 

07 Jul 2017 13:47:19
Eds Have we shown any more interest in Martins from Sporting since Salah has signed? Cheers.

CyKlopps

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any approach from Liverpool and, again, he is a right winger.}


1.) 07 Jul 2017 14:27:22
Cheers Ed, I know he is just wondering if Klopp was looking to add more depth and pace to the wings.

{Ed002's Note - I think there are other priorities first. And much will depend on who leaves.}


2.) 07 Jul 2017 15:37:31
Mane and Salah as first choice, Wilson and Ojo in reserve. That's plenty!


3.) 07 Jul 2017 17:28:10
I know we have a few but out and out wide players we have mane and Salah and then coutinho and lallana who can play there, though I think we lose some of lallana out wide. Say we start hendo couts and lallana in the middle, we don't really have a direct replacement out wide, or of one gets injured.
United have lingard, martial, mhk, mata, and rashford all capable there, Chelsea have hazard, pedro Willian and a few youngsters.
Wouldn't surprise me if we went for another that's all I'm saying.


4.) 07 Jul 2017 21:28:47
Fencey, Couts, Furmino, Lallana, Wiji, Origi, Solanke are all capable of playing out wide and add to that Wilson, Brannagan and Ojo who can also play out wide too.


5.) 07 Jul 2017 22:31:07
Brannagan has left the club I think.


6.) 08 Jul 2017 20:28:30
Did we sign a fencey? Can't work out who you mean? Ox would be decent for cover on wing, up front and midfield. Worth 25 mil for proven quality to cover three or four positions five if play with wing backs 352.


 

 

20 Jun 2017 13:46:02
Ed what's the story with Sessegnon? I thought we lost out to Spurs for his signature but he still hasn't signed for them yet. Are we still interested? Any update on our interest in Mendy at Monaco? Really think Left back should be a priority.

CyKlopps

{Ed002's Note - As I have explained, there are people at Fulham who do not want to do business with Liverpool. There is nothing to update regarding Mendy.}


1.) 20 Jun 2017 21:06:36
City are set to sign Mendy. Gutted, best LB around and that's probably sealed the title for them as they're sorting out proper quality early, done and dusted. We, on the other hand, have spent a month on Salah, who still hasn't signed and was our second choice.

City will sort two quality full backs cause they need them. We do, but won't. More attacking quality added, maybe Auba too. Don't need him, but top teams want competition for places. We don't like that.


2.) 20 Jun 2017 21:11:49
Bertrand won't want to join City to be a back up to Mendy. He's had that before. If city go for Mendy I'd be happy if we went in for Bertrand as he's a quality player.


3.) 20 Jun 2017 21:40:38
Ever the optimist hey Max ;) we've obviously taken a while to get our business done early due our handling of the Van Dijk transfer.

Salah is a quality signing and the transfer window hasn't even opened yet. There's still plenty of time to sign a left back (which we will) . Klopp's knowledge of the European market is second to none, he'll find a cheaper alternative to Mendy i presume.

I'll be amazed if the Van Dijk transfer goes through so after Salah we need to find a CB of genuine quality then i'll be happy with our business. A CF and a DCM (keita) would be a massive bonus.


4.) 20 Jun 2017 21:46:22
Bit short sighted to say that's probably sealed them the title when it's June!


5.) 20 Jun 2017 22:39:26
Mendy has by no means agreed to join city!


6.) 20 Jun 2017 22:46:44
Max Renn are you going for the most negative poster award?

We don't need Salah? Why don't we need another winger? We fell apart when Mane went and the team was fatigued.

I believe most games we will play a front 3 of Salah Firmino and Mane, with Phill just behind.

Everyone knows we need a LB and a CB to improve our starting 11. I'm not sure we need a CM imo as we have enough already Then we need to replace any out goings to add depth.

Chill out and see what's happened and the start of the season.


7.) 20 Jun 2017 22:47:41
Ed's can you explain fulham not wanting to do business with Liverpool. I. e. what we did to them.

{Ed007's Note - Pumped their mam!}


8.) 20 Jun 2017 21:38:52
Eds when is the players contract up and do any of you know which club he actualy prefers to go to. if any?

{Ed002's Note - Move on.}


9.) 21 Jun 2017 09:06:13
A largely untested keeper, no leadership in their defense and a completely unbalanced midfield. Mendy does not pretty much secure the title for City.


10.) 21 Jun 2017 09:30:39
Tizer I didn't say we didn't need Salah. We were linked with Auba and posters saying we don't need him as we have Sturridge, Origi and Solanke. City don't need him either but the difference is he can improve the competition for a place with Aguero and Jesus. We are short sighted to see players like Auba as an impressive signing to elevate us rather stick with what hasn't won us anything instead of pushing forward.

Mendy himself might not win the title but it is the areas they're improving- fullbacks, keeper and players like Bernardo Silva make sure they continue to improve competition. Posters here are right we need a LB. we needed one last summer, before that too. Keep hearing window not open yet I see our direct competition managing to buy and improve. The best LB in euro is available we should have sealed that problem area straight away.

We will see at the end of the window of course. But we have a packed cm area and want players like Ojo and Gomez given the chance, but we're hunting Keita, Salah and a CB. Still no lb still have a problem area, squad not improved and get those three Keita Salah and a CB that's going to be £120m spent. What we buying at lb? £10m Robertson? How much money do you think we have? Same old windows of money wasted and a squad hoping for top four not title challengers.


11.) 21 Jun 2017 11:34:18
yeah i think we should focus on a centre back and a left back and i would prefer koulibaly to van dyke due to the fact that it is about time we sought out a commanding defender for once and is areal value for money at 55-65 mil pounds we might purchase van dyke for.


 

 

09 Jun 2017 13:44:50
Ed01/ 02 I have been told we have been in talks with Shay Given have you heard anything your side?

CyKlopps

{Ed002's Note - No I haven't.}


1.) 09 Jun 2017 19:57:11
Makes sense - need 3rd keeper which he'd be more than happy with I'm sure.

Let Ward have a season in the PL with Huddersfield, giving him plenty of game time and relevant experience.

Migs hasn't been the greatest but recent form is good, likely as a result of Karius pushing him.

Given to be a player/ coach with any luck.!


2.) 10 Jun 2017 10:56:10
Given could still be playing regularly at lower levels so would be surprised if he wanted to be the break glass option and pretty much call an end to playing career.


3.) 11 Jun 2017 08:02:52
needs a strong decision on GK roll this season and not flip-flopping between migs and karius.

Done us no favours last season. If karius is going to be number 1 then we need to offload migs.


 

 

 

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17 Aug 2020 08:14:24
Are we looking to sell or release Adrian at all? I know he was keen on a return to Spain before? Surely it would suit us better to have a homegrown player as back up with more foreign players being added to the books (Tsmikas and maybe Thiago, Mandi)? I see Joe Hart is a free agent but surely Kelleher/ Grabara could step up now?

CyKlopps

1.) 17 Aug 2020 08:32:29
Heating good things about kellehan.


2.) 17 Aug 2020 08:32:57
Does Irish count as home grown?


3.) 17 Aug 2020 08:34:30
Please don’t suggest hart.


4.) 17 Aug 2020 09:03:01
Nationality doesn't matter Robbiesline as long as he's spent, the Ed's will correct me if I'm wrong here please, 3 years with the club before he turns 21. I think.

{Ed002's Note - Three years playing under the same football association - so Nathan Ake is Home Grown for England and Wales.}


5.) 17 Aug 2020 10:23:04
Thanks Ed002 wasn't sure if it was the club or Association.

{Ed002's Note - There are two things to consider and not to confuse:
(1) Home Grown: The EPL squad rules are a max of 25 players over 21, of which a max of 17 can be non-Home Grown. The remaining eight have to be HG (spending 3 years between 16 and 21 with an English or Welsh side, regardless of nationality, e.g. Nathan Ake is Home Grown for the EPL). If there are not enough HG players, then the squad size reduces, so if there are only six, the squad reduces to 23. In terms of UEFA competitions, the rules vary slightly with the eight "HG". A maximum of four of those eight can be trained by other clubs in the English and Welsh association. The remaining have to be club developed and trained. So If Arsenal were to recruit Mason Mount, he would fall in to the category of being association trained (by Chelsea) rather than club trained. Again, if there are not sufficient club trained players the squad size is reduced.

(2) Club developed: In terms of "club developed and trained" means that they have spent at least 12 months with the club before the year of their 19th birthday. As such Ryan Sessegnon is not club developed by Spurs.}


6.) 17 Aug 2020 14:50:55
Cool, thanks nks ed02.


7.) 17 Aug 2020 18:23:45
Why is everyone so obsessed with 'home grown' players all of a sudden. The club knows the situation, i'm sure they will deal with it.


8.) 17 Aug 2020 20:48:54
Who are interested in Hart? I wonder if Chelsea make a move for him? Doubt it. They could go for shmicheal and Hart go to Leicester ll.

{Ed002's Note - Spurs.}


9.) 20 Aug 2020 08:51:33
Hart is off to Spurs.


 

 

14 May 2018 13:49:31
Ed001, with macca saying we are close to signing Butland what is your opinion of him as a player and do you think he will be first choice or back up against Karius? Have to admit I wasn't impressed with him this season for stoke but I wasn't happy with Robertson either after his season at Hull and he turned out great so I will be patient and give the lad chance. Cheers as always.

CyKlopps

{Ed001's Note - back up, he is home grown which is a plus, leaves a space in the squad for a quality player, other than that, he is just an injury prone average keeper. Nothing outstanding, mainly because of injuries though, before those he had a lot of potential, they seem to have badly hit his confidence.}


1.) 14 May 2018 14:00:12
Ed, do you think Lambert's comments were just lip service then? He laughed off the suggestion of £30m as if that was an outrageously low figure.

If we had to pay more than £30m for a keeper to sit on the bench, I'd be more than a little alarmed!

{Ed001's Note - Lambert is not involved in player sales or buys there. He was just trying to boost the confidence of a player lacking it.}


2.) 14 May 2018 14:34:31
Thank God for that Ed. I don't mind Butland as a back up keeper.


3.) 14 May 2018 14:40:46
Does make me wonder about Ward, then, Ed001.

His aptitude/ attitude must be an issue as he would also be homegrown for bench duties.

A shame as he seemed to have potential.

Am I right in thinking that if you have spent a certain amount of your youth career here then you also qualify as homegrown? Thinking of Grabara being recruited at 17 and whether he would therefore qualify in years to come should he stay?

{Ed001's Note - Ward should have had this season on loan, he won't waste another in his career.

Yes, you have to have a certain number of years prior to a certain age, not sure what it is now off the top of my head, they change the requirements so I would need to check what they will be for next season.}


4.) 14 May 2018 14:44:54
Perhaps a big money move to a champions league club will be enough to boost his confidence?


5.) 14 May 2018 14:53:40
Cheers Ed001, I agree his injuries have stalled his development. Not a bad back up keeper though and he will definitely keep Karius on his toes. Hopefully he’s is one of many signings this summer.


6.) 14 May 2018 14:57:58
So you are happy enough for Lfc to pay £30 million for a keeper to sit on the bench MK. I have to say i would be completley stunned if we paid anywhere near that much when our first keeper isn't anywhere near top notch. I would maintain Butland, if purchased would be for the first 11. We shall see.


7.) 14 May 2018 15:07:40
I doubt he would he cost anywhere near 30 million rover as he should have a relegation clause in his contract which means he can leave for lower fee. And He’s a big earner at stoke, I think they’ll be keen to get him off the wage bill.


8.) 14 May 2018 15:12:26
Do you think it will be made aware to him that he is coming in as back up? Or do you think he will be signed thinkin for he can take over as no1? Cheers.


9.) 14 May 2018 15:13:31
No Rover, I didn't say that at all. You've misinterpreted. The reason I asked the question is because I was concerned Liverpool were doing that. With Lambert saying Butland was worth more than £30m, and Ed001 saying he'd be back up, I was worried we would spend over £30m on a substitute.

Ed001 then explained that Lambert didn't set the prices, and that he made up an inflated value just to give Butland a confidence boost. So knowing that he would in fact be cheaper, I'm okay with him being a back up.

I'm not sure I've explained that well, but long story short is I don't want Butland as first choice, or if he will cost anything over £15m, absolute maximum.


10.) 14 May 2018 15:48:28
Sly have said butland made the most saves of any keeper in the Premiership this season. Obviously only one stat but thought I'd share. For me he is 4th or 5th best keeper in the league.


11.) 14 May 2018 16:13:42
I don't agree Walter, but good for you for saying something positive!


12.) 14 May 2018 16:46:07
Not my first choice, but infinitely better than Navas who we also looked at. Klopp worked wonders with Oxlade, maybe having a manager who believes in him can help him achieve the potential that he showed a couple of seasons ago before his injuries.


13.) 14 May 2018 16:43:40
Negative finally says something positive, but it is about a player that isn’t LFCs, so close!


14.) 14 May 2018 18:07:11
His confidence is low at the moment, he’s looked very shakey on crosses recently and positioning has been questioned.


15.) 14 May 2018 19:03:17
I am trying tia19 but it's not my thing. To be fair I've been very positive about mo and ox when they signed when other posters were how can I say, not keen.


16.) 14 May 2018 19:15:14
Ed01, can you please, help me? Are we sure we want Butland anywhere near here? Really? I mean, why sign a young, English GK as no. 2 who may prolly think he should be no. one where as we could get another GK, a bit older who can mentor Karius and improve him while he himself gets some games in the Cups to keep him sharp? I mean, imagine the media campaign that would occur should Karius have a bad game or two where the media would kick up a HUGE stink about how Butland should be given his chance and all that stuff? Is that what we really want? I don't think so, man. IMO, Butland is not a patch on Karius and tho Karius is a very competent GK (your words exactly), he needs to do more and I'm sure he knows that. Do you not think it is a bad idea to bring in Butland with all the circus that would cause should the scenario I mentioned above happen? Cheers, man!

{Ed001's Note - when you are a club the size of Liverpool, it is always a media circus no matter what. When Mignolet was the option we still used to hear about how Karius should be dropped for him and we all know he is useless.}


17.) 14 May 2018 19:51:54
Butland’s had a season behind a dross defence and played in a really poor side, it knocks confidence just as the flip side is players growing (i. e. TAA) and blossoming in a side playing well.
I don’t personally think Butland is world class nor great with the ball at his feet but everyone said Pickford was brilliant yet behind an average defence and negative manager with the pressure of the crowd on the back of the manager he has made some glaring errors this season.
I’d be happy to give him a go given how well Ox, Milner, Robertson and Gini have done despite their initial detractors about money spent, quality, prospect of improving blah, blah, blah, let’s face it not one of us could claim we thought all those would have a good season, Karius would grow in confidence and Mo Salah would be such an amazing find.
Thus whoever we sign give them support and a chance, it’s amazing how good players can be with our backing. On that note I was disappointed on two counts yesterday, Henderson didn’t get a song of support sung in his name during the game when others did and my rendition of “sh1t on the Seagulls, sh1t on the Seagulls tonight, na, na, na” was me all on my own in the Kop with people looking at me like I had a whellie on my head 😊, most upsetting that no one got the banter of it usually being the other way around 😜 I hate Seagulls, pesky critters that pinch your chips.


18.) 14 May 2018 20:23:20
Thanks for the response, Ed. Koppite_68, I agree with your post completely. I always have confidence in the players we have till they prove me wrong and I am a very patient man. It took 2/ 3 years for me to give up on Migs while to me, Matip is not good enough either. I was not for Ox BUT he got my support cos he is an LFC player and he proved me wrong. Up Da Pool and let's go #TakeThe6th!


 

 

22 Feb 2018 13:13:36
Ed01 just wondering your opinion on Navas being an option as Ed02 reckons Klopp is keen on him. Do you think personally he would be a good option? Or would you prefer we got Alisson from Roma? I would rather a younger keeper to be honest, someone who can be our keeper for the next 10 years like what De Gea looks like he will be doing for United. Donnarumma I think would be perfect.

CyKlopps

{Ed001's Note - Navas is only seen as a back up, in which case ok, not who I would pick but not really important. However Alisson would be the number one choice for me as a number one. He is the only real rival to De Gea around.}


1.) 22 Feb 2018 13:36:55
As back up? Why not just keep Ward as backup? Spending 20 million or so on a backup GK is money poorly spent.


2.) 22 Feb 2018 14:04:52
Ward is leaving.


3.) 22 Feb 2018 14:31:27
Because Indian buzzer, Ward needs to crack on with his career and it would be awful of us to keep him for another season if he isn't wanted. It's better to have an experienced older keeper as back up who isn't itching to progress his career.


4.) 22 Feb 2018 14:40:02
Thanks Ed. can't see Navas joining us to play back up to be honest when he could just stay and play back up for someone at Madrid. Havent seen much of Alisson but when I have I've been impressed. Either way I hope the goalkeeping situation will be solved, its been too long putting up with conceding comical goals due to mistakes.


5.) 22 Feb 2018 14:57:23
Im not sure that Ed meant backup keeper (no2) but more of a backup if we can't get other targets. Liverpool can't afford to pay that much money out on a no2 when their No1 keeper ain't that hot.


6.) 22 Feb 2018 15:20:22
I know Alisson conceded 2 last night against Shakhtar but he actually pulled off some great saves. It could have been a much worse scenario for Roma if it wasn't for him.


7.) 22 Feb 2018 18:46:42
I think I would rather keep Karius than replace with an ageing declining Navas. He’s probably better than Karius right now but I’m not convinced it will stay that way for long. I still have high hopes for Karius and hope he proves his worth in the remainder of the season.


8.) 22 Feb 2018 18:47:34
Hey ed001, don't you keep Oblak in the same bracket. I think that he is even better than De Gea.

{Ed001's Note - no he isn't as exposed so can't be put in the same bracket.}


9.) 22 Feb 2018 22:24:14
I hope Karius performs wonderfully well till the end of the season.
I think Navas is a poor choice. Ferdinand was talking yesterday about how Man Utd players were unsure of DeGea when he first came.
Not saying Karius will end up being as good as DeGea, but Navas IMO isn't the answer. Besides, Karius' ceiling might be higher than Navas.
I think we need one quality CB and a quality GK. Those are the main areas to spend money on and we should go for the premium, not second choices.


10.) 23 Feb 2018 00:34:11
Karius has looked calm and confident since coming back. There are genuine signs of a decent quality keeper there.


 

 

20 Feb 2018 09:46:58
Ed01,02 Lazio have announced that stefan de vrij will leave on a free transfer at the end of the season as they could not agree a new contract. Do we still hold an interest?

CyKlopps

{Ed002's Note - Possibly but there is interest from elsewhere and Liverpool could have made an approach already but haven't.}


1.) 20 Feb 2018 11:13:19
I'm glad we haven't made an approach not just because I don't think he's good enough but we need other positions strengthening before going for another CB when Lovren is looking to be a decent partner for VVD and Gomez ready to move into a CB position (I hope) we shouldn't be rushing into bringing in another CB before giving what we have a chance. GK, CM is priority in my opinion.


2.) 20 Feb 2018 11:33:59
I really like Lovren. I think he's a great guy and after what he went through he deserves success. Whatever way you dress it up though, he has a mistake in him. He missed a simple header against Spurs in the 4-1 defeat. He missed a simple header against City in the 4-3 win. He missed a simple clearance against Spurs in the 2-2 draw. He is just always seconds away from calamity.

Matip, our other right sided centre back, is weak and lazy. Added to that, he also has a mistake in him too; usually a positional error rather than a rash decision like Lovren's errors.

I'm a huge fan of Gomez but he has that one Achilles heel; he is bad at judging the flight of a ball over his head. At right back or the right side of a back 3, that weakness is not as exposed as it would be if he was in a centre back pair. I feel as though he should stay as a right back for at least another season. With all his injuries, it is easy to forget that this is actually his first full season in the Premier. He is still only 20 and we don't need to rush him.

For me, a right sided centre back is crucial. One of Matip or Lovren should leave, and the other stay as the back up.

If Gomez is to play in the centre, Klopp has to back him no matter what. If he makes a mistake and the fans get on his case, Klopp has to publically tell the fans to zip it and let him learn and develop. He's already shown with Karius that he is bad at managing those situations though.

I personally think De Vrij would be very good signing and an ideal partner for Virgil. We should give Gomez time to develop at right back. We may end up signing a right back and a centre back though to be honest and I would worry for Gomez's future here if that happens.


3.) 20 Feb 2018 11:55:00
Another great post from you mate to srit up debate
imo I know Ed001 has said we are looking for another right back or might be, sorry, I hope we give gomez and trent another season at right back interchanging, I myself would rather sort out the left backs as not a fan of Moreno and Robertson looks ok for back up but long term I would hope we get someone who is better
Also we need a proper powehouse midfielder to protect the back four or who at least knows how to when naby bombs forward next season to score the long range stunners
someone like Weigl would be perfect for me (dreaming here I know) or barring that even Tousart from Lyon.


4.) 20 Feb 2018 12:08:16
I don't think Gomez has an issue with the ball over his head. I think he gets caught ball watching and can't react in time when a player moves. It's something that can be easily learned with the proper coaching. I also think Gomez should be moved into centre defence as soon as possible. Mistakes and all, we're going to finish 4th or higher and we will continue to concede. Why not let him get the experience now. Best finish we can have is second without bleeding in some youth so why bother. Prepare for next season with what we already have instead of paying big wages for another player. As for de vrij. Certainly if matip and Klavan leave. He would be ideal imo.


5.) 20 Feb 2018 13:01:03
People calling for a powerhouse DM like say a Matic need to first of all, find out how Klopp wants to play in midfield cos that will NEVER happen as it does not fit the way we play. The fact of the matter is that most teams are going to a double pivot in CM like Chelsea have with Kante/ Baka, Dier/ Dembele and even Newcastle have Diame/ Shelvy, Watford have Doucoure/ Capoue and LC have Iborra/ Ndidi.

None of these players I mentioned are true DM's BUT obviously can provide cove in defensive situations if need be. This is how Klopp wants to play hence, he has Keita coming in so he can pair him with whoever he wants. Look at Utd with Matic. He plays w/ Pogba and when Pogba and since Pogba can't defend or does not want to, Matic is swamped and Utd are under pressure as they have been of late. Asking for a true DM is like screaming into the night cos well, you will only hear the echo of your voice.

As for De Vrij, I'm not sold on him as he lacks the pace to play in a high line and also plays in a league where there are defensive players like our very own Lucas in front of him with more protection than he will have here. If anyone should leave, it should be Matip as he is rank poor and Lovren is miles ahead of him. He may have a mistake in him BUT who does not. Klavan was seen to be a liability BUT as soon as he struck a good pairing w/ Lovs, his mistakes got nearly erased and so was Lovren. Lovren/ VVD should be the way to go as they seem to be complimentary and that is how a CB pairing is built, IMO.


6.) 20 Feb 2018 13:47:51
BRover, Johncrow has just stated what he thinks we needs. He never even said "DM" either. Just that someone a bit more powerful could help to protect the defence.

We have had previous interest in Obiang so it would seem Klopp has considered that we may need to replace Can with a physical presence. Maybe that player is Demirbay who is over 6ft and a very aggressive player? There is a clear interest there. What is also clear, is Klopp will play Henderson in front of the defence, and that Keita will probably start, most likely on one side of the midfield 3. Keita is also a very aggressive midfield player who wins the ball back a lot in midfield areas.

We were told 2 weeks ago that Demirbay was a summer target that the club tried to pull forward to January with no success. That won't mean interest has died. So i agree with Johncrow that we need a power house who will improve our physicality in midfield and help to protect the defence and it would seem Klopp does too.


7.) 20 Feb 2018 14:20:51
MK, I was not having a go at JJ as his points are valid. I was just making the salient point that Klopp does not play with a true DM and Ed01 has stated the ideal way that Klopp wants to play. I also know tht he was interested in Obiang who I actually like. As for Demirbay, not sure he is in the powerhouse category BUT I only saw him play twice vs us and he is deadly from set pieces and has a lethal left foot. He would fit the way we play as Hoff play the press and high line the same way we play it (with a tweak here and there obviously) . Klopp may want to play with a DM like Obiang or with another mid like Demirbay who can play as a double pivot in a mid two. We shall see what Klopp does in the summer.


8.) 20 Feb 2018 15:35:16
I am sorry but We don’t need any powerhouse in the middle. Can is a powerhouse but a very average footballer So is Sissokho at spurs and many more who use their upper body to get past players. AOC is well built up as well Wijnaldum.

There is no shortage of power or voltage. We lack creativity, ideas and ability!
David Silva and KDB are no WWE wrestlers, But simple technicians who use their brain and feet to get past players. If you are talking about strength then that is a different attribute.


9.) 20 Feb 2018 15:38:01
Mk he didn't miss the header against spurs, Kane fouled Lovren twice, he would wait for the ball to drop and push Lovren in the back just as he was about to head the ball. If Lovren had gone down the free kick may have been given but then again it was the hurricane and he gets special treatment. Watch replays of it because it was slyly done. You could argue that Lovren needed to be stronger but anyone pushed In the back Is going to go forward a bit eh.

You say Lovren has a mistake in him and while I agree with you (as usual) so does every centre back in the world. Sergio Ramos isn't perfect or any of the world class cbs including Vvd. We are on the back of 2 clean sheets. I don't expect us to go for another centre back. Liverpool fans are mad.

Shouting all summer for Vvd and when we get him you start shouting for Another centre back! Talk about spoilt brats (sorry, I know ow it's only a small section) if we were after another centre back I would expect us to have made an offer for De Vril, he was a 2nd choice if we didn't get VVD. Ed says we haven't made an offer, surely if we were on the market for another centre back we would go for the free option.


10.) 20 Feb 2018 18:36:26
Baby driver, I agree with what you say mate but I Also think Can is more than an average footballer. Have you forgotten who scored the goal of the season last season? That was amazing (overhead goal against Watford that got us into Europe or helped get us in Europe, along with migs)

I think Can is a good pro but psychologically, if you know you won't be playing for this team next season, maybe you won't put 100% into every game, also he is a physical player who doesn't want to get injured before the world Cup.

I would punch the air if Emre signed a new contract, I think he is the perfect sort of player we want in midfield, he is strong but also very skillful and can find a pass.


11.) 20 Feb 2018 21:38:00
Spot on, Baby Driver. Our mids are too similar in terms of what they can do and a bit of creativity would help. The good thing tho, is that Keita has some creativity in him and that would definitely help even tho a Cou, he is not in the creativity dept.


12.) 21 Feb 2018 11:12:51
Super Salah

If I give you a simple choice to pick between KDB and Can ( both plays in the midfield) Who would you choose? 😎Football is simple and both Barcelona and Spain has won everything on the planet without having Powerhouse in the middle. Give me a couple of technically gifted footballer over any powerhouse and we will dominate the midfield just like that!


13.) 21 Feb 2018 15:32:16
Harry, picking btw KDB and Can is baseless as one is is a playmaker and the other is a CM/ DM. Why make comparisons that make no sense? Same with comparing us with Barcelona whereas we play in different leagues and systems along with different league exertions? Man, some of your posts are just strange, really.


 

 

07 Feb 2018 15:19:23
Ed01 Just wondering who you think should start RB against Southampton, Trent or Joe?

Yes Joe is better defensively but against these teams which will sit deep against us I think we need someone like Trent who is better going forward. Both are better than Clyne and I really hope they fulfill their potential.

But Trent for me belongs at centre midfield where he can use is excellent range of passing and set piece skills. Joe I hope will get a chance at centre back with Van Dijk before the end of the season and give Klopp something to think about before buying in another centre back.

CyKlopps

{Ed001's Note - I like having Gomez there as it gives the flexibility to play as a back 3 when we get the ball and guard against a counter.}


1.) 07 Feb 2018 17:46:24
Both great, but both very raw. Sometimes they cock up but you expect that from a young player.
Positioning of Gomez needs tweaking at times, and TTA needs to stop the cross more for me.
Can only imagine how good these 2 young players would develop to be if they were in a proper top back 4.


2.) 07 Feb 2018 18:03:10
Not sure what you mean with a proper top back 4 LiverpoolFC8.

At man City both these player will have to play as wing backs?

It has got nothing to do with TAA and Gomez playing with the best. As it is, they have been featuring alongside Matip, Klavan and Lovren and yet they have proven to be miles ahead of Clyne so not sure what you are trying to get at.

Nobody in our squad is going to be there to wipe a youngsters behind. You have to get onto the pitch and earn your place irrespective of any team mate.

Are you suggesting that Gomez and TAA will be selected first choice by Guardiola in their current squad when he spent 100's of millians on attacking fullbacks?

Trent and Gomez have earned a place in the starting eleven for LFC. That is that.


3.) 07 Feb 2018 18:43:20
Gomez needs to up his game in the sense of awareness

Trent done no wrong Sunday was best player on our team bar salah with the double.


4.) 09 Feb 2018 11:30:30
Good point ed01 and cyklopps. I fully feel that gomez and Vvd are the future of lfc's central defence. There is a slight issue with rb as gomez's future is at cb a and Taa's future is in midfield, I could even see him playing wide in that front three but midfield seems to be his destiny. So that leaves Clyne who I don't think is as bad as he is made out sometimes but still not good enough to be our number 1 rb. I think lb is sorted now. Robertson is great Imo and will only get better, his distribution was pretty poor against spurs but generally he has a wicked left footed cross. Moreno is getting better too and between the 2 of them I think our lb is sorted. People, including me, worry about our gk position but I think we need to give Karius a decent run, I really think he can make that position his.

For those who knock klopp for not addressing the cb situation. He has signed 3 cbs that I can think of. One is the most expensive defender in the world who I think IS the messiah. He signed klavan, who took a while to settle but started to look really good before Xmas. And, he signed Joel matip on a free too. He can be lazy and lackadaisical but he has also had some very good games.

He has addressed the gk situation. He signed Karius. He bought in manninger to help him and be is starting to come good.

I don't understand the fans who are burning flags on anfield Rd. We have spent hundreds of millions and got some very very good players. I didn't think klopp would do much in January. He likes to get signings done early so they can integrate with the squad in time for the new season, getting someone mid season can disrupt the squad. I for one am glad klopp didn't spend the pc money rashly. It is hard enough to sign class players in the summer months let alone in the three weeks after pc left. I'm hoping for Lemar, I also like Serious, when he has a good game his is very good.

Keita And Vvd have signed when a lot of people doubted it. I never lost faith.


 

 

 

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18 May 2018 08:57:39
By the look of our transfer targets we look as though we maybe setting up in a 4-2-3-1 formation instead of 4-3-3 like we have this season.

Possible 11

GK - Butland

RB - Alexander Arnold
CB - Tarkowski
CB - Van Dijk
LB - Robertson

CM - Kieta
CM - Ceballos

RW - Salah
AM - Fekir/ Dembele
LW - Mane

ST - Firmino

Not a bad first 11 to challenge for the title?

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05 Mar 2018 21:03:52
At the minute we have great players at the club and we are looking like we are going to finish only second to Man city in the league and have a good run at the champions league this season.

I think this summer transfer window will be our most important in years, if we recruit well and bring in big players that can have an immediate impact along with what we have now we can have our first run at the title under Klopp.

You can guarantee the rest of the top 4 will be spending big after the World Cup and if we want to compete with them we need to give ourselves every chance and bring in the best players.

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21 Feb 2018 14:03:32
Are we still interested in Ricardo Peireira from Porto Ed? Thought he would be a decent option when I saw him for Nice last season but he really didn't impress me when we played Porto.

CyKlopps

{Ed001's Note - I believe the interest has gone.}


 

 

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11 Jan 2018 10:36:15
Lewandowski?

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10 Jan 2018 13:59:02
No worries thanks anyway ed.

CyKlopps

{Ed001's Note - welcome.}


 

 

 

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29 Nov 2020 13:10:36
Ditch VAR, we have the best league in the world with some of the best foreign players maybe it’s time to bring in better refs as well. It works in the champions league it can work for the premier league. Can’t think of a decent Ref we’ve produced since Clattenburg.

And who’s being consulted with the rule changes, men that haven’t kicked a ball in their life’s can’t decide these important changes. No pro would surely ever pass the underarmpit offside rule or for any hand contact is a foul.

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20 Sep 2020 12:29:04
Have you seen the spurs inside documentary? If a top class coach like mourinho can’t get the guy to train properly then I don’t think Klopp can. Looks like he's lost the hunger.

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06 Sep 2020 14:46:01
Ed01 who in your opinion would make a good replacement for Southgate if he doesn’t make the grade? Need someone who can develop the younger players in the team ahead of the big tournaments. I think Wilder is the most underrated in the league and would make a great choice.

CyKlopps

{Ed001's Note - Wilder would be great. I can't think of a better option than him.}


 

 

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12 Feb 2020 11:43:58
I live in Birmingham and been to St Andrews to see him play a few times. Amazing talent, Il be shocked if he isn’t starting for England by the time he’s 20.

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25 May 2018 13:22:01
I think one of the Ed’s gave a good example a few years back when Marcelo Biesla advised Rodgers to try play a Diamond formation the season we nearly won the title.

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