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21 May 2020 11:34:58
Hi Eds, I know you have told us that Madrids priority is Mbappe this summer but with the financial situation as it is now and PSG not wanting to sell are we coming to a situation where they might switch fire to Mane. I'm sure we wouldn't want him to move on and he seems happy but I always worry when the 2 big Spanish clubs come calling. I may be worrying over nothing as Mane would also be very expensive and almost impossible to replace like for like.


{Ed002's Note - Madrid want to take Mbappe this summer but there is indeed resistance from PSG who don't want to sell. That situation may change is PSG can bring a player in that they desire. In terms of Sadio Mane, Real Madrid are still looking at a major revamp and are using Eden Hazard on the LW which was not their plan. They have plans to bring in a specific RW/S in mind and a couple of alternatives but are likely to hold on to Asensio who they would rather let move on once fully fit - which he may not have proven by the summer. They have a bunch of senior players they have available for horse trading, particularly James Rodriguez, Isco and Bale and will look to include them in any major deal. I am not aware of any direct approach to the club for Mane at this time and it sounds rather speculative that they would go down that route - but he will perhaps be in their thoughts as it is not working out terribly well for Vinicius Jr at this time either. Mane is also seen as a possible Neymar replacement by PSG and by Barcelona as an option to Neymar. But again - there has been no approach to Liverpool.}

1.) 21 May 2020 14:01:38
That's put my mind at ease a bit, just read that the finances involved for neymar might make it impossible for Barcelona this summer as clubs can't afford to invest in the players they wish to let go. Perhaps it will be next summer before the high profile moves return.

2.) 21 May 2020 17:33:25
Den, Mbape is coming to Liverpool, done deal 😎.



04 May 2017 18:27:46
Ed, really strange news breaking in the media that Real Madrid might be having a look at Georginio Wijnaldum as a utility player. I take it we can dismiss the news? He would be a really expensive utility player and has only been with us a year.


{Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware. I am not so sure he would work as a utility player either.}

1.) 04 May 2017 19:30:47
It did seem one of the more odd rumours I've seen, it came out of Italy I believe and stated he was a back up option to hazard which in itself seems chalk and cheese.

{Ed002's Note - That does seem odd.}



31 Jan 2017 22:49:01
Sakho to palace confirmed, 2 mil loan fee seems a lot for 6 months though.


1.) 01 Feb 2017 02:44:52
Good deal for both parties - a shame as liked the guy and we could have done with a CB like him, but since Klopp has made up his mind good luck to him and hope he keeps Palace up.



12 Jan 2017 21:09:30
Ed, are Liverpool not interested at all in Saed Kolasinac. I would have thought we are still looking for a longer term solution at LB.


{Ed001's Note - such as Juanma! He has impressed as he has settled into English football.}

1.) 13 Jan 2017 00:34:57
very happy to hear that 001

{Ed001's Note - let's just hope he really has it.}

2.) 13 Jan 2017 05:06:08
You think is he ready for the 1st team soon? Read a few times of you praising him. Can't wait to watch him.

{Ed001's Note - I have not seen enough to judge him, but certainly the coaches believe he is growing into the English game.}

3.) 13 Jan 2017 06:46:53
lets at least give him a chance, milner proved us all wrong so let's see what this lad is made of, we might have the answer to our problems staring us in the face, his path to the 1st team must not be blocked other wise what sort of message are we sending out not only to him but to all the youngsters who are impressing the coaches, not all of them will make it but let's at least give them a chance.

4.) 13 Jan 2017 10:41:46
Has a great throw in on him apparently!

5.) 13 Jan 2017 12:42:47
I`m eager to see him play as Ed has mentioned numerous times that the coaches think he`s the real deal.

6.) 13 Jan 2017 11:03:19
Cheers ed, I didn't realise he was so highly rated. I presume they will assess it in the summer and if he carries on improving will be given a shot pre season.

{Ed001's Note - unless injuries force him to get a shot.}

7.) 13 Jan 2017 19:02:57
Has there ever been talk of Milner playing right back, as we've had a few looks at some left backs. I know he's been excellent and a little harsh to shunt him again, just wondering. I know clyne's popularity is divided. For me he's so close to being another finan. Perhaps some competition might bring his game up like it did with finan.



06 Apr 2016 17:09:06
With Athletico looking unlikely to be able to do business with Chelsea for Costa this summer, do the eds know if there is any substance to the stories that they may be looking to benteke as an alternative?
I don't believe the quoted newspaper figures for a second but just wondered if they would be a likely buyer?


{Ed001's Note - I have not heard of any interest from them.}




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07 Sep 2020 17:00:23
Just read a report that we might be willing to sell Brewster for as low as £20 million. Hopefully it's made up reports but villa, Palace and shef unt interested aparantly.


1.) 07 Sep 2020 17:07:26
Unless we're desperate to get the money in to fund a purchase, I don't see that happening.

2.) 07 Sep 2020 17:27:04
I'd hate to sell Brewster for £20 mil. He's young and looks pretty good. I don't think he's the one to sell to fund Thiago. Plus I think he gives the front three competition to keep it up, having him on their coattails for a starting spot will be good motivation. Like Eds said, once we won the prem we lost motivation, can't have that anymore when young lads are showing promise and hungry for game time.

3.) 07 Sep 2020 17:53:22
Brewster's millions.

4.) 07 Sep 2020 18:09:10
Brewster could be one we may regret selling.

5.) 07 Sep 2020 18:47:54
If someone sanctions the brewster sale while origi remains at the club then they need sacking. I saw a lot. of him while at Swansea and he is a natural finisher. Give the kid a chance as i feel he's a better option than Divock.

6.) 07 Sep 2020 18:56:31
Rigsby, that was Richard Pryor at his finest IMO, man. Brilliant movie. Now regarding Brewster being sold, it will only be cause we are desperate for cash like Something-Red said. I don't see that happening.

7.) 07 Sep 2020 19:00:12
Relax RedDan, highly likely this is incorrect and just speculation. Of course the clubs can be interested but I'd be shocked if we would be willing to do business at £20M.

8.) 07 Sep 2020 19:03:39
I tend to agree, if we let brewster go it would be crazy.

9.) 07 Sep 2020 19:08:38
Am I the only one that would Flog him. I just don’t see a future in him playing upfront for Liverpool. IMO he’s Hyped up like many others before him. Jones on the other hand, he’ll be a star that kid.

10.) 07 Sep 2020 19:37:29
Ditto LFC8.
I’d take £20 million for him.

11.) 07 Sep 2020 19:50:14
I don't think he is hyped up at all. He is a very good player but I do worry how he fits in to our current system. No doubting his quality, I just see him replacing Mane or Salah adequately and I don't see him having Firmino's energy or skill. If Klopp was open to changing system to accommodate Brewster's skill set then he is definitely a keeper for me.

12.) 07 Sep 2020 20:19:43
If he is not going to be used, then sell with a buy back clause.

13.) 07 Sep 2020 20:23:54
You have to think about it from a business point of view.
We recently got him for not much and can make a good few million. We tend to talk about millions of pounds on here as of its smarties. Most of us won't see 1mil in our lifetimes.

We did it with dom solanke, but although I think dom is a decent player, much better than he's looked for Bournemouth. He was inches away from scoring 5-10 goals for us. Brewster is the better player.
I feel if he could get on a run he could be good for us. Thing is, we don't really play with an out and out no9. Does he fit?

I haven't seen much of him but I really like origi. I really don't understand why he is so undervalued here. He scored the goals that won us the champions league. The premier league was more important for us, but now we've won it I think we can say that the cl is the bigger trophy. He should be worshipped. Brewster is a green kid. With tonnes of potential and needs to be playing. Is he going to play much here?

In an ideal world I'd keep him. But if we can make some profit to put to areas we could really improve, then I'm fine with it. It's not an ideal world. Especially at the moment.

14.) 07 Sep 2020 20:23:58
If we selling too fund another attacker, I am with klopp all the way!

15.) 07 Sep 2020 20:25:08
I've been saying all summer that if he is not in the first team plans, we should sell him. Personally i'd keep him over Origi but if Klopp sees it the other way then who am i to argue with the man who delivered No.6 and No.19 🤷‍♂️.

16.) 07 Sep 2020 21:02:58
How can fans be happy to sell someone we have seen so little of? Surely he should be given a chance before leaving permanently. Criticising a young striker for being a goal scorer baffles me.

17.) 07 Sep 2020 21:57:36
maybe we're selling to make room for wilson.

18.) 07 Sep 2020 21:44:32
Brewster ain’t be sold will he Ed?

{Ed002's Note - That is hardly a sentence.}

19.) 08 Sep 2020 03:09:06
Don’t worry, Daretodream, he be ain’t that.

20.) 08 Sep 2020 04:20:06
Before his injury, Brewster looking very threatening. Since then he seems to have lost some pace and has had to remodel his game imo. Id like to think he is going to make it into our team but im not convinced (having said that i didn't see much of him during his time at Swansea) . Pretty certain Ed001 has done a player profile on him.



27 Aug 2020 23:33:12
I have no idea if mane stays or goes but I'm not sure why it would come as a massive shock if he does. The front 3 are all 28 and FSG will want to sell before contracts wind down or they get too old, when we talk about signings the Eds constantly tell us that there are worries about sell on potential if they are over a certain age. If the intention is to rebuild a younger side over the next 2/ 3 years then it would make sense that you might look to move one of mo or mane on in the next 12 months and find a younger replacement, the trouble is I don't think one exists at their level. We have VVD, Hendo, wiji, mane, salah and firmino all 28 or over we are not a super rich club and can't afford for all of them to get old, I can see 3 or 4 of the 6 moving on in the next 2 to 3 years.


{Ed0666's Note - Klopp has some rebuild to do and if he sacrifices Mane to start it than so be it. I think selling him is a little premature as he’s only just turned 28 and would harm us more than benefit us in the short to medium term. As I said in a previous thread I’d be shocked if he was sold in the next few weeks.

1.) 28 Aug 2020 00:05:08
I guess that is the nature of the beast with investors though, at 28 their value is high (perhaps €120mil) this time next year at 29 it will be less and in their 30s they are not bringing in mega money so you would assume if they want to maximise return some of the higher end players will need to move on in the next 2 years. It's a fine balance though because if they get it wrong we're right back where we were 4 years ago.

2.) 28 Aug 2020 06:48:08
Den82, selling the best players in the team (no, Coutinho was not one of them) rarely works in the said team’s favour.
If we start selling the likes of Mané, that lovely growth we’ve seen in the last few years, built off the back of winning trophies and having world class players, will flatline. It is short-sighted to be considering letting a player of his quality leave at age 28.



23 Aug 2020 16:02:51
Looks like the decision up top is to either keep origi and let brewster go on loan for the season or let origi move on and keep brewster with the first team. I have no idea if the club is any closer to a decision on what to do next but I read that Leeds fancy both players so could offer a solution whatever decision is made.


1.) 23 Aug 2020 16:34:50
Just out of curiosity what do you think we could get for Origi if we were to sell him? Are we talking 20-30 mill.
I watched Brewster a few times live last season and he didn’t really do a lot in open play but he came alive if there was a chance in and around the box. He did a lot better after lockdown mind and I know there are a lot of teams interested in him. For me Brewster offers something different to what we have which is a natural no 9 finisher but I think he needs to work on his overall game play in the front 3 not for it to be a big drop off if or when he replaces one of them in a game.

2.) 23 Aug 2020 18:39:13
I'd worry for Brewster going on loan to Leeds, purely because for some reason, Bielsa just absolutely loves Patrick Bamford. Surely Brewster is better and should dislodge him but I'd be so miffed if Rhian was on the bench and Bamford started every game.

3.) 23 Aug 2020 18:43:58
The choice is straight forward to me.
Brewster is not versatile enough for this Liverpool team, he doesn’t fit naturally anywhere in the formation.
He’s not a wide man and he can’t do the Firmino / Minamino role.
He’s a decent 20 year old kid but he’s no Owen or Fowler and not good enough for the first team yet.
It’s as simple as that.
I feel he’ll go put on loan again. And probably, at some point, he’ll need to leave.

4.) 23 Aug 2020 18:57:44
One of the world's most prolific goal scorers, ever, was Gerd Muller. A very strange looking man. Short stubby legs. Very low center of gravity. And just basically parked himself in the opposition's penalty area or thereabouts. Sometimes he barely did anything at all for 89 minutes. And then somehow he would score a goal or two in the 90th minute. Over a career of 15 years with Bayern Munich he scored 565 goals in 605 games. Think about that - that's almost a goal a game over 15 years (and it's a higher goal/ game ratio than Messi and Ronaldo) . And for Germany he scored 68 goals over 62 games. I'd be more than happy if Brewster turns out anything even remotely close to Muller. Not very active or athletic or noticeable, but always knew how to slot the ball into the net once they got the ball to him. Always knew the right position to be in, a goal poacher. It'd be the perfect compliment to Firmino, and perhaps even allowing you to work with a lethal 4-2-3-1.

{Ed0666's Note - surely you couldn’t replicate the way Muller played in modern times as the offside rule has changed immeasurably and and in a continuum since the 1960’s and defenses play a higher line? I’m gonna go on record and say I don’t think Brewster is ready for us at the moment he needs another successful loan before he should be incorporated into the team.

5.) 23 Aug 2020 19:21:43
Granted Ed0666, I'll accept that there's a gulf in talent between Brewster and Muller, and that some of the rules were different, but my point was that you don't have to be a super athletic, hyper active CF to be helpful to the team; something that some posters are complaining about. You don't need to be a clone of Firmino to succeed in Klopp's system. My view is that it's time for him to be given his shot and it'll be up to him to either sink or swim. I don't think his decent enough performance with Swansea was a fluke. If he sinks, he'll follow the Ings path of loans and eventual sale, and perhaps better performance elsewhere.

{Ed0666's Note - I hear ya mate but I don’t think we have the luxury to assimilate a player who is not ready (only my opinion I’m not speaking for others). A lot will depend on sales of course but if he gets a loan to a premiership team with guarantees he will play surely we have to take it no? I respect your advocacy and endorsement of Brewster but he’s no Owen or Fowler there’s no evidence of that prodigious talent that both Robbie and Micheal had at the same age. We’re gonna have to beg to differ on this one mate.

6.) 23 Aug 2020 19:29:17
ArAy1969, Gerd Muller is a living legend and arguably the most lethal natural goal scorer to ever walk the face of the earth, IMO. Mentioning Muller and Brewster, a wide eyed 20 yr old still learning the game at the highest level, in the same sentence is just plain wrong.

IMO, Brewster needs experience playing regularly in high pressure situations is what he needs in terms of diversifying his overall hame cos if he can’t, he won’t make it at LFC as a CF the way Klopp wants that position played.

7.) 23 Aug 2020 19:44:21
Gerd Muller wouldn’t get in our side ArAy though Pele or Cruyff might 😀
Brewster’s situation has echoes of that of Suso from a while back.
Ironically, if it were 2012/ 13, Brewster could look forward to getting game time but it’s not, and the quality bar has been raised so much higher.

8.) 23 Aug 2020 20:39:56
Lewandowski played under Klopp and is an out and out striker like Brewster. I can't see how Brewster could not be part of the squad yes Origi plays out wide but it does not suit him and down the middle I would have Brewster every day of the week over Origi. I all so don't see any reason Bobby and Brewster could not play together Klopp did it with Salah and Bobby with Shaq down the right. Against the teams that sit back I think a goal scorer like Brewster is just what we need there was a lot of chances missed last season that this season might cost us a lot of points.

9.) 23 Aug 2020 21:00:49
Holy Bananas, do you guys even read the posts before joining flash mobs to dance on each other's heads? I clearly said I was not comparing quality but rather the style of not being a wide range player (like Firmino) . You can be more static, but if you score enough goals, you can be just as effective. But fine, we disagree, and that's that. I can meet you, after the UCL final, down the road, in body armour. For "further discussion" of course. 😜.

10.) 23 Aug 2020 21:55:14
Calm down lads we’ll be comparing him to the GOAT Sean Dundee next with all the names being thrown around.



11 Jun 2020 16:46:49
6-0 in the friendly this avo, keita, mane, minamino, matip, however, Clarkson. The Ox took a knock to the ankle, Robertson and salah not risked.




11 May 2020 20:22:46
Ed, slightly away from sport in general as there seems to be a way to go before it is safe to resume but what do you make of the government's easing of the lockdown. On the face of it the guidance is easy enough to follow as an individual but as of Wednesday potentially millions will be flooding back to work completely reliant on each other and their employers safeguarding each other. Our daily cases are only slightly below what they were when we originally locked down and the R0 is only marginally below 1.have we moved too soon or is the need to get the economy moving again at the point where this is all completely necessary? Every industry is different but I know within mine there will be ill feeling from the shop floor workers who will need to go back to work and the managers who will largely continue to work from home. After the division brexit has caused it would seem that this will add to it after having hopes that it would ultimately bring us closer together.


{Ed002's Note - For me it is too soon. If it has gone wrong the earliest indications will be a couple of weeks later.}

1.) 11 May 2020 20:46:44
That's my worry, in two weeks cases cases will begin to build again and the rhetoric will be that the general public and employers wernt able to follow advice. if we had waited it out a little longer we may have been able to avoid what seems inevitable.

2.) 12 May 2020 11:15:07
Well to a certain extent that will be correct. We all by now know how this virus spreads and we all know the measures in how to prevent it. It is up to the general public to do their bit. That much is true.




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18 Aug 2020 20:55:42
You would think there will be lots of loan offers flying around with money being so tight all the way down the leagues.




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18 Aug 2020 20:54:34
Wilson, ojo and Woodburn need to move on for the sake of their careers, none of them will get a minute for us next season.




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26 Jun 2020 09:13:13
Not many wait till they are 28 Ed, saving yourself or were you just a hard sell?


{Ed0666's Note - My body was a temple that no one wanted to pray in



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04 Jun 2020 21:01:22
Just had a quick look at dembele on transfermarkt, seems he was relatively injury free until his move to barca, since then his hamstrings have been pinging. If its a loan with an option I guess it could work as he certainly has talent but you would think Barcelona would want a sale or at least a guarentee of a sale at the end of a loan as he is coming into the last 2 years of his deal. I do think we need cover accross the front 3 and with money being an issue you would think he would be a good solution also he really needs to resurrect his career at some point, still only 23.


{Ed002's Note - Barcelona would certainly prefer a sale - but they have a lot of players to move on so a loan may be possible.}



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21 May 2020 14:01:38
That's put my mind at ease a bit, just read that the finances involved for neymar might make it impossible for Barcelona this summer as clubs can't afford to invest in the players they wish to let go. Perhaps it will be next summer before the high profile moves return.





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27 Sep 2020 00:32:04
I can't get my head around how a defensive action that hits a players arm is 100% a penalty but an attacking action hits the the arm of a player it depends on how close to the goal scoring opportunity it is, its a right mess.




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09 Sep 2020 15:01:04
I've seen opposing fans call Taa, robbo, Hendo, wiji and Bobby system players this week and that only VVD and Mane are good enough for every team in the league. Some system that, I wonder why every team doesn't use it.




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08 Sep 2020 17:48:57
I'm already in it.




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01 Sep 2020 04:45:36
Should he have been on the bench against arsenal then?




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28 Aug 2020 09:57:56
Oyarzabal, Bailey? Never been linked with either though.