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26 Jan 2018 18:40:15
I'm going to keep this short and sweet. I believe we are 3 players short of becoming a team to be reckoned with. 1) A holding/ defensive midfielder who always wants the ball and can dictate the play with a good range of passing - Jorginho of Napoli for me. 2) A creative (central) attacking midfielder who can provide the front 3 with the quality of passes they need, someone who is not scared to run at the opposition and take on players to create goal scoring opportunities, especially against those teams that like to park the bus - Keita will be here in the summer, but should we look to bring someone in who can provide that quality now and help us see out the season and challenge in the Champions League? 3) A top goalkeeper who is up there with the likes of De Gea, Courtois, Lloris, Cech etc.

If we can keep the top players we currently have for next season and bring in those 3 players between now and the summer, I'll be confident that we will make giant strides toward success.

El Maestro

1.) 26 Jan 2018 19:02:11
We're always 3 players away. Probably always will be.

2.) 26 Jan 2018 19:32:53
I’d say Keita is more of a 1) than a 2) to be honest.
If I had to choose 3 positions It would be 1) attacking midfield a la Coutinho, 2) goalkeeper as our once are about midtable good (keep in mind Karius came from Mainz, a mid-bottom league side) and 3) a right back because Gomez does his job well but He is still a better centerback than a rb and we shouldn’t push Trent too soon. Maybe as a fourth player I would bring in another winger/ striker so we Salah/ Mané/ firmino get some rest.

3.) 26 Jan 2018 19:35:27
Don't worry next season will be our season.

4.) 26 Jan 2018 20:14:03
Not in any particular order of importance Crammie mate, just 3 positions I feel need strengthening most.

5.) 26 Jan 2018 20:18:58
i don't knw why people always rate gomez, and always think he can solve our problem in our center back, for me, he has made many mistakes dat lead to goals dan trent, upon he played more games to blend dan trent arnold, for me gomes is not dat good, just look at last game against city, please he is not yet ready to be in liverpool center back, dat my take.

6.) 26 Jan 2018 20:59:15
Tony, Gomez has huge potential. He's been at fault for one or two goals, and isn't in the greatest form at the moment but which defender do you know that never makes a mistake? Wasn't Van Dijk (in part) at fault for the goal we conceded at Swansea? I do agree however that he isn't ready for CB yet though.

7.) 26 Jan 2018 21:02:29
I would have pressed agree if you’d have written it in English.

8.) 26 Jan 2018 21:03:41
So I guess dat's dat.

9.) 26 Jan 2018 21:18:46
Who dat?

10.) 26 Jan 2018 21:26:03
Dat in it.

11.) 26 Jan 2018 21:49:58
RP - dat made me hoon 😂.

12.) 26 Jan 2018 21:50:07
dat did my head in .



11 Aug 2017 22:45:07
Although I believe Coutinho will still be a Liverpool player when the window shuts, If he is going to leave we should look to bring in Fabregas. An experienced playmaker who knows the Premier League very well. His age may be a problem for some fans, but at short notice I cannot think of many more who would be more suited. And available too.

Red Rum.

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1.) 11 Aug 2017 22:52:46
Experienced yes but far too similar to the players we have plenty of. And zero pace.

2.) 11 Aug 2017 23:06:46
Don't need pace to find the right pass and he's done it for years. be like a mcallister buy that but don't think will happen.

3.) 11 Aug 2017 23:16:19
Yes bring fabregas in who I see anti-klopp football is lazy and barley gets a game for Chelsea. That'll take Liverpool forward. Or buy energetic enthusiastic football.

4.) 11 Aug 2017 23:32:21
I disagree (and agree with oP) been saying for ages we seem to fail in the middle of the season because we lack leadership in the middle of the park to keep us focused, I reckon Fabregas would bring that to the table and do it much better than hendo. As for pace, I recall Jan Molby being an amazing midfield player and he wasn't exactly Usian Bolt was he!

I also suggested, if couts goes, we get Zlatan for a season. With studge probably only going to play half this season without injuring himself, we could get a 25 goal a season player on a free. Does it then matter we pay him £250k a week? It will cost us £10m or so for a season with him, not sure where else we could get 25 goals for £10m?

Re Couts, i hate to say it but my gut feeling is we will lose him now. Not playing tomorrow and having a back injury (seems to be a common injury for all the players looking to leave their clubs. bit like having to tom tits if you work in an office! ) sounds to me like he is gone and won't play for us again. I hope I am wrong and he stays and commits, but I think it's past that - and who can really blame a 25 year old wanting to go play for probably the best club out there with the best player in the world?!

5.) 12 Aug 2017 00:18:16
Fabregas came third last season in most distance covered in the league. One place behind Lallana. He is most certainly not lazy and he could find space in a packed phone box that boy.

6.) 12 Aug 2017 03:44:44
For all your fabregas bashing Chelsea won't even consider a bid for him so that tells you not berate a player that has for most part of his early career carried the most fluent one touch football playing team in EPL and in latter part of his career won cl, la liga, premier league.

{Ed001's Note - that is because they have sold the rest of their midfield, not because he is any good.}



07 Aug 2017 14:01:23
In the 2013-14 season we came close to winning the league title with Suarez, Sturridge and Sterling up top. Three players who like to make runs in behind the opposition, which gave Coutinho plenty of options to utilise his world class passing ability from a central midfield position.

In the 2014-15 season we finished 6th. With Suarez gone and Sturridge injured for the majority of the season, Coutinho had the likes of Lambert and Balotelli ahead of him who were not the type to make runs in behind. This almost completely nullified Coutinho's passing qualities, having only a young, still inexperienced Sterling and an ineffective Borini willing to run.

In the 2015-16 season we finished 8th. After seemingly realising that immobile forwards do not suit our attacking style of play we shipped out Lambert and Balotelli, but then brought in another immobile player in Benteke (go figure) . And with Sterling and Borini now gone Coutinho was moved up to play on the left wing where he was not as effective.

In the 2016-17 season (Klopp's first full season) we finished 4th. With Benteke now gone Klopp looked to Firmino to lead the line who unlike Benteke, Balotelli and Lambert who were before him; presses off the ball and makes runs in behind the opposition. Klopp also brought in Mané - a forward with real quality and pace to get in behind the opposition. There were huge improvements made last season, however Coutinho was still restricted having been played once again on the left wing for the majority of the season.

You can see from above that Coutinho has to play a central role with runners ahead of him and at the end of last season Klopp discussed his intention to move Coutinho into a deeper midfield role. For years I and probably many Liverpool supporters have been sayings "build the team around Coutinho" who's qualities have been there for all to see. Salah was brought in so that this could be made possible, which is why I cannot see Klopp allowing Coutinho's departure; at least not this summer.

What I like about Coutinho is that he is a true professional. No drama, he just gets on with the task at hand without complaining. With the forwards he's had to put up with over the last 3 years, as well as being stuck out on the left wing I'm surprised he's stuck around this long and signed a new contract with the club. But it shows the kind of person he is. He is still young and I'm sure he would relish a title fight and a good champions league run with us before packing his bags for Barcelona. If he is worth €90m now after being stuck out on the left wing for the best part of two seasons, imagine his worth next summer after playing in his most effective position with real quality ahead of him.

Red Rum.

El Maestro

1.) 07 Aug 2017 14:15:14
Well said.

2.) 07 Aug 2017 14:23:28
I agree, But scoring goals wasn't always our problem really. It was the soft goals we conceded that meant dropped points.

3.) 07 Aug 2017 14:32:42
Great post - My concern is it's FSG, our owners, that will decide if he stays or goes.

They were quick to shoot Arsenal down ( publicly )
over Suarez, where's klopp's backing?

4.) 07 Aug 2017 18:20:52
Doesn't matter he wants to leave he is trying to do it nicely if we don't listen to that and allow him his move it will turn sour.



08 Jul 2017 14:49:41
Hello Eds and Reds,

I used to go by the alias 'Red-Rum' but I haven't posted for a couple of years. Anyway, I just thought I'd share my thoughts on Liverpool's current situation, and hopefully bring a sense of calmness to the forum.

Firstly, I want to analyse where I believe we fell short last season, and for me our number one problem was our inability to break down defensive teams. We would go all out attack often leaving only Matip and Lovren back, resulting in us being vulnerable to the counter. The reason for this was primarily because we did not have the pace up top to get in behind (especially when Mané became injured) and therefore had to throw our fullbacks forward to assist in the final third. However Clyne and Milner weren't very effective either. Milner often had to cut in on his right in order to get a ball into the box and Clyne's final ball was often abysmal.

In order to fix this problem Klopp either has to a) replace his fullbacks with wing-backs who can get in behind and put a decent ball into the danger area, or b) bring in wingers allowing our fullbacks to stay back and concentrate on the defensive side of things. And with the signing of Salah it would seem that Klopp is opting for option a.

This is the better option in my opinion. It means Klopp can now move Coutinho central allowing Salah, Mané and Firmino to use their pace in order to get in behind the opposition. Something we haven't had since the Suarez, Sturridge and Sterling days. We also have Henderson, Wijnaldum, Lallana, Emre Can and even Ejaria vying for the other two midfield positions; assuming Klopp will go with his preferred 433. Therefore, I believe we are very strong in this department going into next season. Do we really need Keita? I wouldn't be surprised to see another winger join before the transfer window closes though in order to give us the depth we need going into a Champions League season (the Ox maybe? ), however I'd be content with Milner providing backup for Mané and Salah.

As for the defence, I'm quite happy with Clyne at right back if he only has to concentrate on defending. If we are struggling to find a decent left back, we have Gomez and Flanagan who were excellent there before their long term injuries, and would relish a fresh start to get back into first team football. If we can bring in a solid left back though I'd look at the likes of Alex Telles of Porto who is excellent defensively and can also put a decent ball into the box when required. We would also benefit from bringing in a decent centre back to take the strain off Matip and Lovren in a fixture riddled Champions League season. As for our goal keeping situation I believe Mignolet has improved greatly and I have no concerns in this department. One of Karius or Ward could benefit from a loan move though whilst the other deputises.

Finally, my two cents on Keita and Van Dijk. For the cost reported I wouldn't bother with either of them. I don't believe we need Keita anyway and could only see us signing him if Coutinho is sold, which I hope does not happen.

El Maestro.

El Maestro

{Ed002's Note - Welcome back.}

1.) 08 Jul 2017 15:13:53
Thanks Ed! "Klopp is opting for option b" - that was supposed to say as well.

2.) 08 Jul 2017 18:08:28
Great post Red Rum. I had missed your posts mate. Agree on literally every point!

3.) 08 Jul 2017 19:15:16
Good to see you back rum! Good post I don't quite agree on milner being our back up winger and would (if no more come in) like to see ojo used as back up and milner probably more to be included as back up utility player similar to Lucas covering midfield and full back positions.

4.) 08 Jul 2017 20:45:09
Thanks Lads!




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26 Jan 2018 20:59:15
Tony, Gomez has huge potential. He's been at fault for one or two goals, and isn't in the greatest form at the moment but which defender do you know that never makes a mistake? Wasn't Van Dijk (in part) at fault for the goal we conceded at Swansea? I do agree however that he isn't ready for CB yet though.

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26 Jan 2018 20:14:03
Not in any particular order of importance Crammie mate, just 3 positions I feel need strengthening most.

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26 Jan 2018 18:18:23
They'd be having a gay old time then! I'll get my coat.

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23 Jan 2018 12:50:55
Sometimes you have drop off and allow such teams to have the ball. Draw them out, have faith in the team defensively to win back the ball, then get them on the counter with our greatest threat: pace.

Last night was more of a tactical error. We clearly do not have creativity in the midfield area, and I said this after the City game when someone posted "Coutinwho", that Coutinho is most effective when we play against teams that park the bus. He is a game changer, and has the ability to create something out of nothing. We no longer have that creativity in midfield. And the so called lesser teams (and United under Mourinho) are going to love playing against us so long as Klopp has no idea how to play against these defensive teams.

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22 Jan 2018 18:23:14
Quality Livered.

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