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04 Dec 2016 12:45:18
Am expecting Jordan Ibe to be out to impress Klopp today to prove he was wrong to sell him albeit there is a rumoured buy back clause.
He'll be running at Milner and Clyne at every opportunity and shooting from everywhere.
When on his game the kid can be spectacular.
1.) 04 Dec 2016 12:53:40
He ain't starting though.
2.) 04 Dec 2016 12:56:43
Unless he is on the bench.
3.) 04 Dec 2016 12:51:31
No Matip, could be a hard afternoon.
4.) 04 Dec 2016 13:17:10
I said exactly the same thing, today is one of those games that I still can't help but worry about, I doubt Bournemouth will park the bus either.
04 Jul 2015 16:25:24
Eds,
Do you see us going for Pedro as is rumoured as a replacement for Sterling?
Surely with Ibe, Markovic, Coutinho,Firmino & Lallana the last thing we would need is another wide or no 10 type player?
Unnecessary in my eyes.
Rogers has an very talented and in some cases very expensive bunch of players among those 5 and if he is the great coach he keeps telling us he is, he should be able to make these players better than Pedro while not blowing another £20m.
{Ed002's Note - It is difficult to see a move to Liverpool without Champions League football. Barcelona will sell at the right price and Pedro was offered to a couple of clubs, one as part of a convoluted part exchange but no deal could be struck for Kovacic.}
1.) 04 Jul 2015 21:07:22
I know we typically don't talk money here, but what price do you think they would be willing to sell at?
{Ed002's Note - A lot less than his €150M termination clause.}
2.) 04 Jul 2015 21:24:52
Cheers Ed2.
I would like us to get one stellar fit striker signed up, get the players we all know need moved on moved on then get to work on preparing for a very big season for the club.
We have a very capable squad of players it's now time they and the manager show this and start the climb back to regular top 4 and contending for the big prizes.
I am very much in the Rogers out camp but if he can get the team playing again like we are capable of he will have my full support.
I really hope he does.
3.) 05 Jul 2015 08:05:36
He is reported to have been quoted as saying he PREFER'S LFC over Arsenal because he has more chance of first team football with us and that CL football isn't all that important too him for the coming season.
Don't know how true that is, or even if he would be a good signing but we obviously have hit an impasse with Benteke so would assume we will be looking for an alternative.
vrcomp
Y.N.W.A.
{Ed002's Note - I have to say that it is very unusual for a player who has just agreed to a contract extension to come out with statements such as these about Liverpool.}
4.) 05 Jul 2015 08:56:14
What annoys me about this rumour is we have Ibe so why spend huge money on pedro??
25 Dec 2014 13:13:20
Ed's,
Is there any appetite by the club to bid for, and more importantly any chance of getting any of Cech, Jackson Martinez, Lacazette or Bony in January.
Appreciate there are many variables that need to happen for this to occur ( players moved on, club willing to sell etc ), but would rather hear this accurately from yourselves than all the paper and twitter rubbish I read daily.
Don't ruin my Christmas by saying no
Ha ha
{Ed002's Note - (a) The club would like him to stay through to the summer but obviously Cech wants to be playing. Enquiries have been made by Monaco, Real Madrid, AC Milan, Roma (whose Morgan De Sanctis has signed a new deal) and Arsenal. (b) Porto are prepared to cash in on Jackson Martinez with varying degrees of interest from a number of clubs - all of which have been put off by the asking price. (c) Manchester City, Newcastle, PSG and Inter have recently enquired about Lacazette but Lyon has no intention of selling in January. Manchester City and PSG would not be able to buy him in January due to the sanctions. (d) Bony will be at the ACON during January.}
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13 Dec 2016 02:01:37
Klopp biting to Nevilles criticism will just add to the attention Karius is getting right now.
Admirable wanting to defend your player but Neville is correct as Karius currently is not playing well enough for a top 4 club who have ambitions to win the league.
I've no doubt he will come good but at the moment he needs to get the head down, work hard on the training ground and improve.
Professional football is a hard business and he needs to show character to get through this tough period.
If not sadly he won't last long at Liverpool which will be a shame as has all the attributes to be top class.
1.) 13 Dec 2016 04:40:17
There's a good article in Liverpoolecho, about Karius v Neville, maybe fellow posters and readers can have a look at.
Of course, every one of us subject to their own opinions. Mine, almost the same with that particular article.
2.) 13 Dec 2016 06:26:19
Let's not do a Jose Mourinho. Keep it cool and focus on the game.
3.) 13 Dec 2016 13:19:04
Even though it's not worth wasting the time to get into any kind of debate with the Neville clown brothers, I think it's crucial for a coach to come out and draw the line when a particular player is being specifically targeted. We've had two poor games, with various players underperforming or making a mistake here and there. But what's with the focus and targetting of Karius only? Guardiola, the always smiling, congenial type always makes it a point to rebut the press when he thinks they've stepped over the line, about a player. And we all know what Mourinho does. He comes out swinging without a damned care as to who gets hurt. So Klopp is absolutely right to draw an "off limits" circle when things get too hot. Staying calm and composed is the preferable response, but people like the clown brothers (with their significantly insufficient number of grey brain cells) will only see it as quiet agreement and invitation to continue with their hysterics and drama.
4.) 13 Dec 2016 14:35:25
Elderslie, Gary Neville and pundits are free to criticize players who are making mistakes BUT it seems like they are getting carried away and seem to be unfairly targeting a specific player and blame him for the past two poor games where as Ra said, there is plenty of blame to go around. This is where they are wrong. Karius has admitted that he`s not playing well so he doesn`t need to hear it from a couple of clowns with hidden agendas and neither does Klopp.
To me, Klopp is right to defend his player when he feels he`s being singled out and bullied. Even Ian Ladyman of the Daily Mail who did the Karius interview came to his defence saying he had a right to defend himself, so did Chris Sutton who in his article, called out the Brothers in Failure as hacks and bullies, trying to kick a player when he is down, forgetting how huge failures they were as coaches.
Mou has made a career of making pundits look stupid even when they are right yet Mou and now Pep, are right to do that and Klopp is not? The hypocrisy is deafening. Yes, it`ll be better to not respond but they went over the line along with Carra (something Hammann slated him for) and klopp along with ladyman and Sutton, were right to say, "Enough" of this nonsense.
5.) 13 Dec 2016 14:48:53
I agree elderslie, I personally think both Klopp and Neville where right. I think Neville is doing his job as a pundit, he said nothing too disimilair to what redknapp and caragher have said, so no excuses about bias. Karius has been shaky for some weeks now, when put under pressure and when questions have been asked he hasn't convinced, that's just honesty, it doesn't mean I've got it in for him or I'm calling for his head as I'm prepared to give him time but he can't evade critisicism as some would lead you to believe. We have no problem criticising players like Henderson, mignolet, Milner, Moreno etc so the same should apply here. I also agree that the player should put his head down and work as I thought Karius had a somewhat arrogant response to the situation which just puts much more unnecessary pressure on yourself to perform. So let's hope confidence isn't a massive issue for him otherwise his will be shot by now. On he other hand, I think Klopp is right to protect his player and take attention away from him the way he has done, that's good management, but if he was implying that Neville shouldn't talk because he was a poor manager (which I don't think he was) then I don't agree with that. That's basically saying anyone that isn't top class at what they do shouldn't have an opinion. Anyway, I hope this all gets swept under the carpet quickly and move on but the only one that can do that is Karius. The lad needs to improve, it's as simple as that.
6.) 13 Dec 2016 18:49:12
Kman, read Ian Ladyman`s comments in the Daily mail. He is the one who organized the interview and he defends Karius and talks about how his comments were taken out of context and were not arrogant in the slightest. I don`t have a problem with criticism and neither does Karius if you read the full article, which I read on Friday. However, What this is hence why Klopp, Ladyman, Hammann and Sutton they`re not all fools) stood up for Karius, is that it looks like a gang up on a young player who is struggling for confidence. That is not constructive criticism. That can be viewed as bulling and scapegoating him for our issues (of which there`s enuff blame to go around), something that none of us would stand for.
No one said Neville should not talk. It is the way he and the others did it that was the problem and Klopp was right to shut the whole thing down because if you attack a player in such a seemingly disingenuous way, you will be called out for your own shortcomings and if you`re a Neville, glass houses should not throw rocks. Fergie was the king at doing this. Pep and Mou slate pundits all the time so no news there.
I agree that Neville should still speak his mind regardless of how pathetic his managerial past was (it was indeed pathetic), BUT if you come off as being a bully just like his clueless bro and Carra were and telling a grown man to shut up and do his job, that my friend, becomes personal and that is disgraceful and he deserved the clap back he got from Hammann. If you told me to shut up and just do my job, you`d better be my dad and if not, you will get the business regardless of who is right or wrong.
To many and myself included, their criticisms went too far and it became personal and that`s where Klopp decided to step in and kill the noise. However, I totally agree with you that only Karius can end this madness and the good thing is, he knows it too.
24 Jul 2015 06:58:05
No one is a bigger fan of Sakho than myself.
Our best centre half and left sided which is a bonus.
Feel his fate may be secured by if we can't sell Lambert, Borini & Balotelli to get some cash in.
If not he may be sold for monetary reasons more than anything.
One of the few guys at the club who has genuine leadership qualities and he will be sorely missed if he does leave.
Only possible positive is it may be a way of holding onto Ilori as he sees a future at the club and also with young Gomez impressing we would have capable cover there albeit I still want Sakho to stay.
1.) 24 Jul 2015 07:18:46
I don't think Sakho is that good.
He's decent but he has quite a lot of frailties as a defender.
He should be easy to replace.
I don't think we'll miss him at all, he was not even a regular last year and we were rubbish in defence.
2.) 24 Jul 2015 07:42:50
He looks shabby on the ball, But trust me he is an accomplished CB. He is old fashioned CB ask him to mark a man and he would do it whole night.
But I can't byte this Assurance of game time, A club like Liverpool cannot assure players over game time, which club does that?
3.) 24 Jul 2015 08:39:47
Harry I have to agree with you there. Why should any player be guaranteed playing time? Why would other players come? You get what you earn in football.
4.) 24 Jul 2015 09:04:58
TJ
I am not sure, what went wrong and only God knows it. You have to earn your place and its a simple logic. If the reason behind Sakho's deprture is all down to assurane of game time , Then I ouldnt blame the club.
But then y did we assure some players like Milner, Ings and Can?
I got a sneeky feeling BR doestnt rate the Lad and that's shame, Being a manager you should never be Biased.
5.) 24 Jul 2015 12:16:42
We have to remember, players of Sahko's ilk are full internationals, which means they need to be playing consistently at a high level, to maintain that international status. Not only that, I do feel he is our best CB and what do you do with your best players? You play them!
{Ed002's Note - This is pretty much what his agent said after talking with Lazio - he needs to be playing regularly, he wants to ensure his place in the Euro 2016 squad is not at risk etc.. However, whilst Sakho is willing to take a reduction in salary, Lazio are not looking to buy him outright, but have him on a one year loan, buying him next summer. I very much doubt that would suit Liverpool.}
6.) 24 Jul 2015 12:31:54
i understand your logic about guaranteed playing time.
i think it's more a case of him not feeling as if he's in the first 11 plans at the moment which given skrtls constant errors and lovren poor first season would rightly piss him off. he is about best cb and proably feels that too, therefore pending a poor run of form should be first cb on teamsheet
23 Jul 2015 21:46:33
It's sad to see the striker at our club with the most ability close to leaving because he has the worst attitude.
Appreciate Balotelli cannot play as a sole striker and Rogers has not used his to the best of his capability but his lack of effort at times has been very disappointing.
Will the penny ever drop . Doubt it and he will have loads of regrets of what might have been when he's older.
Shame
{Ed001's Note - do you really think he has that much ability? I am not convinced he is all that good when I watch him. He could have been, but he never worked at his game.}
1.) 23 Jul 2015 22:23:40
If you have augbility BUT have no wok ethic, you are a waste of talent, just like Balo is on his way to being
2.) 23 Jul 2015 22:25:04
Benteke is looking to leave already?
3.) 23 Jul 2015 22:37:10
For me Balotelli has the ability to get to the level of an Ibrahimovic but his total lack of application is incredible.
If he could look at Henderson for example in someone who has decent ability but a work rate that is top class.
Rino Gattuso was another when at Rangers he had nowhere near the same natural ability of Gazza , Barry Ferguson or Charlie Miller but won all the major trophies including the World Cup.
Amazing how your attitude can get you to the top or hold you back.
4.) 24 Jul 2015 00:10:25
Why is it sad?
He's getting paid tens possibly hundreds of thousand pounds a week and he can't apply himself better?
He's literally stealing a wage from the fans.
Ciao Mario.
5.) 24 Jul 2015 02:09:25
For me, as a complete outsider and never having met the lad, he had bags of potential but no self discipline. He obviously likes the attention but let's it control him rather than the other way around. Another in the line of 'What if' and 'Could have' I'm afraid
22 Jul 2015 22:07:53
Benteke is a total unit in those photos at his unveiling today and I'm delighted we've secured him.
We have real depth all over the team now and our squad is as good as I can remember in many years.
Really looking forward to this season now more than ever.
As long as Rogers just sets the team up correctly and doesn't put square pegs in round holes we can really get in the mix for all competitions were in.
1.) 22 Jul 2015 22:35:31
I don't necessarily disagree with you, but the manager needs to manage the big squad. something he's failed to do in the last three years -hence my realistic stance.
2.) 22 Jul 2015 23:20:35
Attack and Mids will frighten most teams. We need to find the best CB partnership rapid and really tighten up at the back. New coaches should address this. GK inc. cover -massive concern.
3.) 23 Jul 2015 00:20:10
BR is the only one who can screw this up hence, my cautious optimism
4.) 23 Jul 2015 08:06:53
The tune is already changing. I'm watching you Ohio.
5.) 23 Jul 2015 09:07:21
I personally think we are going to have a great season. We have good center backs, one of the best right backs in England, and Moreno, who will get better this season. We defended so badly last year as the midfield was slow ( Gerrard, the greatest, but let's be honest, he was past it for the pl). Once Lucas came in to protect the back 4, all of a sudden transformed into one of the best defense in the pl.
I really don't think any of our rivals have the engen we have in midfield, with the boundless energy of Henderson, Milner and Can. With Lillana(spelling), coutinho, firmino, and ibe, we have excellent creative outlet, and benteke, ings, are strong at finishing. There is still sturidge, and origi.
15 Jul 2015 20:01:31
Surely we are not now going to miss out on Benteke, meaning we will have gone 3 transfer windows in a row without addressing the area that every man and his dog knows needs sorted most.
Surely not .
1.) 15 Jul 2015 20:29:35
And?
If we wanted him enough we would sign him
I reckon we'll get him for 25 as I'm sure the lure of two international teammates makes it a more worthwhile move for him.
2.) 15 Jul 2015 20:31:46
I have to say I would be thoroughly peed off if we don't get him.
I've said all along that I think the man is a monster and would give us a whole new dimension.
3.) 15 Jul 2015 20:57:02
We have addressed the striker situation? We've signed two young strikers, that have been promised first team time; and we have 3 more that are likely to be moved on, so I don't know how many more strikers we could possibly fit.
4.) 15 Jul 2015 21:02:29
Seem like not only we miss him, we miss him to United. The way they work is 'we want this player, what's his tag price? £32? good we will pay it'. Next day he is theirs.
The way we work is 'do we want this player? not sure, maybe. maybe only if we will not find someone chepaer, let's bid on third of the asking price try to get to the end of the summer and if we will not have other options then we may raise our bid in ten precent. If it will not work we will say we never wnated him and actually We already have Origi and Inges os don't need other strikers.
5.) 15 Jul 2015 21:25:31
Similar to firmino then
6.) 15 Jul 2015 21:30:45
Thing is fanobip, do you think he's worth the asking price?
I don't, and it's clear the club don't.
Isn't that wise?
7.) 15 Jul 2015 21:46:16
Some posters really do get their knickers in a twist sometimes. let's wait and see who Benteke signs for before throwing ourselves off the cliff!!
8.) 15 Jul 2015 21:56:42
I don't think Belgian international mates really work as an argument as United have Fellani and januzaj vs our Mignolet and Origi so can't see that being much sway either way to be honest
9.) 15 Jul 2015 22:04:33
If anyone thinks , presuming we move on Balotelli, Borini & Lambert, that young kids like Origi & Ings alongside a brittle Daniel Sturridge, with Firmino, Markovic or Sinclair in emergencies, is good enough to get us in top 4 is wired to the moon.
We are crying out for an out and out proven goal scorer .
Has no one seen how poor we've been in attack since the wee man left!
Beginning to think that some of the guys off the transfer committee post on here.
I for one would be delighted with Benteke, provided he is used in a front 2 and we don't try to change how he plays.
Will be well pissed if he goes to Man U.
10.) 15 Jul 2015 22:29:55
Why waste 32 million on someone who won't press and will want the ball player into him all the time? United are welcome to him, will suit their long ball style.
11.) 15 Jul 2015 22:53:55
Well said Elderslie! Couldn't agree more.
12.) 16 Jul 2015 01:19:41
If Ings and Origi aren't good enough to start, why did we buy them? Makes little sense to me to keep acquiring players and then not use them.
13.) 16 Jul 2015 03:00:24
RDL, that's what we've been doing since last summer so why should anything change?
14.) 16 Jul 2015 03:54:09
I rate him it seems than many on here, but for £32 million i would for sure not worry about getting someone else for less
15.) 16 Jul 2015 06:31:48
I'd rather we didn't sign him, we have do many attacking players, if benteke came in meant ibe or markovic getting less time then it's not worth it. We should just play a 4-2-3-1 with ings or firmino until studge is back. With couts ibe markovic lallana we should still score.
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17 Jul 2015 20:30:47
£8m they having a laugh!
First year for someone so young in a foreign country , learning a new language and culture is always tough.
Twice as hard for a defender , in a part of the pitch where communication is key.
No chance he'll be leaving but as for Enrique, I'll drive him out the door myself !
04 Jul 2015 21:24:52
Cheers Ed2.
I would like us to get one stellar fit striker signed up, get the players we all know need moved on moved on then get to work on preparing for a very big season for the club.
We have a very capable squad of players it's now time they and the manager show this and start the climb back to regular top 4 and contending for the big prizes.
I am very much in the Rogers out camp but if he can get the team playing again like we are capable of he will have my full support.
I really hope he does.
02 Jun 2015 21:02:49
Has to be up there as one of our worst ever strikers.
Huffed and puffed but never carried any sort of goal threat.
Unbelievable the money we paid for him
22 May 2015 18:57:17
The way Dalglish was ruthlessly treated after getting the club out the relegation spots in season one to winning a trophy in yr 2 and another cup final while having to deal with all the Suarez carry on was incredible.
Appreciate reason was because of how he backed Suarez but the replacement in Rogers didn't justify the swift dismissal and the leniency shown towards Rogers is incredible considering the players he's had and resources and cash at his disposal.
Will be stunned and disappointed if he is still there next season and Klopp is not in charge.
Thought we were a BIG club .
18 May 2015 22:31:53
Worrying times at the club with what seems the now annual departure of a key member of the team leaving.
Need to get someone with the necessary stature to halt this trend and manage the undoubted young talent we have correctly.
Get Klopp and spend the Sterling money wisely on one top class striker with player sales on top and we will be stronger next season.
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23 Jul 2015 22:37:10
For me Balotelli has the ability to get to the level of an Ibrahimovic but his total lack of application is incredible.
If he could look at Henderson for example in someone who has decent ability but a work rate that is top class.
Rino Gattuso was another when at Rangers he had nowhere near the same natural ability of Gazza , Barry Ferguson or Charlie Miller but won all the major trophies including the World Cup.
Amazing how your attitude can get you to the top or hold you back.
15 Jul 2015 22:04:33
If anyone thinks , presuming we move on Balotelli, Borini & Lambert, that young kids like Origi & Ings alongside a brittle Daniel Sturridge, with Firmino, Markovic or Sinclair in emergencies, is good enough to get us in top 4 is wired to the moon.
We are crying out for an out and out proven goal scorer .
Has no one seen how poor we've been in attack since the wee man left!
Beginning to think that some of the guys off the transfer committee post on here.
I for one would be delighted with Benteke, provided he is used in a front 2 and we don't try to change how he plays.
Will be well pissed if he goes to Man U.
12 Jul 2015 15:05:19
Yip 20% to QPR.
Can't see him leaving unless £40/45m not up front and City with FFP restrictions lessened and having to get some English players in would surely agree.
Would expect Benteke to arrive before end of July to bed him in .
If that's the last signing for the summer we're in a decent place to contend for top 4
04 Jul 2015 13:15:21
If could give them Borini, Lambert and £20m I would do the deal all day long.
Big upgrade on last year and takes the pressure off Sturridge to be fit every week.
When fit play both together when one is injured play one up or Ings alongside.
Wages saved on Borini and Lambert will cover most if not all of his wages and both are not going to feature anyway.
Now we just need to move on Balo and the rest !
28 Jun 2015 17:02:20
He's not ready for me yet to go straight in the team regularly every week but in a year's time , after gaining experience of English football , I see no reason why he can't become Sakhos long term partner in a flat back 4.
With Clyne & Moreno either side we could keep that defence for years like Chelsea do giving us the stability needed.
Only concern is his injuries but hopefully like Gerrard he can overcome these.