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13 May 2018 22:26:56
We have Keita coming and are linked with another cm. We are losing can. We have been saying for seasons we lack that bite in midfield and maybe Keita adds that, but something noticeable for me, against city and against Roma in the first legs, hendo, Milner, gini or Ox won 80% of lose balls, headers and 50/50s which WA Skye to our quick turnovers and counters for me.

I hope we don't lose that, and if we do sign another cm, I obviously hope they are a good footballer first, and suits our style, but can't help but think that physical edge would be great.
I know we have been loosely linked with Jorginho, but I don't believe he really offers that.
Are we linked with any who do?


1.) 14 May 2018 10:08:47
Do you honestly believe that Klopp would sign a midfielder who wasn't a good footballer or didn't suit our style?
Or couldn't stand up to the hurly burly of the Premiership?

2.) 14 May 2018 11:54:17
He DID sign Steven Caulker on loan at one point. lol.

3.) 14 May 2018 14:03:21
I propose a ban on the mentioning of Caulker on this site, Klopp has had an excellent record in the transfer window for us but every time someone mentions it, someone says caulker.

4.) 14 May 2018 15:16:11
Reynard, he signed him based on the opinion of someone within the club. He decided to trust this persons view and then learnt from it. That is entirely different to his view when signing a player.

5.) 14 May 2018 20:28:02
Loosen up, it's a joke (hence the "lol") . sad lack of humour on here sometimes.



02 Jan 2018 08:23:42
Lijnders left to coach in Holland. All the bed to him, always spoke of very highly by klopp, hopefully can find a good replacement!


1.) 02 Jan 2018 08:40:37
Top guy, best wishes for the future Pep.

2.) 02 Jan 2018 12:06:48
My brother in law tells me that he's a really great guy and he's wonderful to have around. Apparently he was very highly thought of at the club too so that is a big loss to us imo.



24 Dec 2017 17:20:01
Liverpool linked with dani ceballos of madrid, I assume rubbish?


{Ed002's Note - It is sort of correct. Real Madrid have given permission for Dani Ceballos' representativea to approach clubs with a view to a loan before any decision about a sale can be made. The loan will require guarantees of game time. The representatives held meetings in London with Arsenal and Liverpool and have also met Roma and Inter to see what interest there is. It is difficult to see how another central midfield player could be used by Liverpool right now, particularly one on loan, without being disruptive to the team. Inter have someone else arriving so would perhaps not be keen on what is likely to be a high loan fee. Roma I don't know. Arsenal are looking for a central midfield addition in January although there preference is for someone else on a permanent deal - but just perhaps.

Ceballos was watched by Liverpool in the days of Brendan Rodgers.}

1.) 24 Dec 2017 21:29:20
He would fit perfectly in our midfield 8 next season.

2.) 24 Dec 2017 22:56:44
Ron man you were always my favourite poster on Here, recently you been so negative! Enjoy your Christmas, enjoy the dinner, enjoy the wine and please come back to us in January the good ol' Ron because I cannot deal with your negativity!

3.) 25 Dec 2017 08:51:33
Loving the new Ron keep it up and have happy Xmas and new year.

4.) 25 Dec 2017 12:11:18
Maybe both coutinio and can are off in January ed 02. Keitas not coming till the summer so a loan could be an option. I'd prefer we just soldier on with what we've got even if the 2 do go. Llama should be ready to go soon.

5.) 26 Dec 2017 10:37:56
Guys all I did was phrase what Ed002 implied differently.

We stockpile midfielders to a pathological degree and unless we are going to play 8 at once it is totally futile.
Grujic has yet to play a game, Lallana has been injured all season, Woodburn never gets a game, Ejaria seemed to be permanent unused sub last season, Keita is coming, plenty of people plead for a new contract for Can, we’ve just signed Oxlade Chamberlain.

We need defenders!

6.) 26 Dec 2017 14:00:26
So you've named all the midfielders who don't play, not sure how they are relevant as the majority are youngsters trying to establish themselves. That leaves Hendo, wiji, Milner, lallana, can and couts (who both look like leaving) that's not quite 8. so you think him signing on loan til the end of the year would require us to play 8 midfielders? Any excuse to moan these days Ron.

7.) 27 Dec 2017 09:31:12
Agree with Ron. Only 2 of those are youngsters and his response is including the fact that every other thread is about another midfielder we're going to sign. I guess unlike some he is joining up the site as a whole not just viewing each post in isolation. Need is for some better experienced defenders that suit what the club needs. Not another 3-4 midfielders. Personally I'd rather see an out and out natural greedy finisher before see another midfielder.



31 Aug 2017 01:07:56
few rumours about Thomas muller on loan - lemar to sign next season and muller for this?!





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27 May 2018 18:37:16
I for one do not think Karius should be defined by one bad night. If this was another player it would not be the case, just the goalkeeper gets it harder due to mistakes normally costing goals.

However, I think it would be best for him to move on. Even if he is mentally strong enough To push through this, I'd bet the next mistake he makes some fans will be calling for his head, no matter how well he plays until then. He could be unstoppable for ten games then one fumble and people will be saying he is not good enough and never was.
Last night was a freak day, but how many goalkeepers don't make mistakes - no matter who we have In between the sticks, mistakes are going to happen, be it Karius, butland or someone else.
We just need to get behind whoever it is. Karius clearly knew what had happened, he didn't hide, and I'm sure he knows words cannot do justice what he is feeling.
Let's get behind the whole team no matter what!


1.) 27 May 2018 19:03:35
Sam Wallace made a very good point when he said that it’s not going to help pillorying Karius. Look at what happened with Robert Enke. He’s a human being who made a mistake, we all make mistakes at points in our lives. The club, the team and us as supporters have a duty to make sure it doesn’t destroy the poor lad.

{Ed002's Note - You are wasting your time, they won't get. It is now bad enough that the police are involved. Another great week coming up for the reputation of the Liverpool fans with a UEFA hearing and the police looking in to the threats being made to Karius and his family.}

2.) 27 May 2018 19:16:11
If that's the case they aren't proper fans period.

3.) 27 May 2018 19:23:30
Unfortunately Ed, twitter gives a voice to those whose opinions often come out of what they sit on. I feel for Karius. I hope those that have made the comments are treated within the full extent of the law, I hope that the club helps Karius get through it too. The best thing we can do as supporters is stand by him and give him some support, he’s one of us.

4.) 27 May 2018 19:24:33
No true fan or normal human being makes death threats.

Please do not link this to Liverpool 'fans', because unless you can point out these faceless fools, it's only spreading false information, until they are identified (which they haven't been yet), apprehended and charged.

As things stand, this is nothing to do with Liverpool supporters, for all we know it could be a Barca, Chelsea, Spurs, Everton or Skonto Riga fan.

{Ed002's Note - I had forgotten that - it is someone else's fault.}

5.) 27 May 2018 19:29:21
If the people who have said these things are prosecuted and turn out to be season ticket holders they should have the ticket revoked and banned from Anfield for life.

6.) 27 May 2018 20:23:37
Ed02 is correct, Olirish. We will have to consider these people that did this as LFC fans for now until we find out they are not, minority or not and they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law if or when they are apprehended.

7.) 27 May 2018 20:42:20
The people who wrote this stuff are spineless cowards who hide behind a keyboard. Whether they are LFC fans or not you cannot tarnish everyone with the same brush.

{Ed002's Note - Nobody is being tarnished with the same brush - you simply don’t get this.}

8.) 27 May 2018 21:16:02

You don't need to get involved with something you clearly were nothing to do with, so don't try to talk for me please.

If you're happy to have that idiot who threatened Karius linked to you in a guilty before innocent situation, that's your choice but not mine.

Wasn't talking to you in the first place and won't be after this comment either, you and I disagree on many things and I would rather avoid wasting time discussing this with you as I'm 100% not accepting the above, no offense, take care.

9.) 27 May 2018 21:22:56

{Ed002's Note - A truly disgusting post - I don’t laugh of death threats to players and hope that his children get cancer, neither do the club and certainly not the police. Don’t ever post again.}

10.) 27 May 2018 22:18:53
Stuff like this is not new, it’s the modern day football fan no matter what team.

Prime example - David Beckham when he got sent off for kicking out against Simeone.

The whole nation wanted him dead.

11.) 27 May 2018 22:21:38
Sweet Jesus, no fan, no player is feeling lower than Karius right now.

I've made more cock ups in my life than I dare to remember, luckily not in front of millions.

I really don't think he has a future in the Prem now, due to the press and social media but I wish him well for the future.



27 May 2018 10:27:09
I have an awful feeling Salah may never fully recover mentally from last night. He had the hopes of a city and a nation on his shoulders and I will be gutted for him if he doesn't get to play in the World Cup. It will be a challenge to get to the level of this season again anyway, but after riding that high, how do you get back to that after such disappointment. Furthermore, shoulder injuries can last a while, I did a similar thing myself and still feel it now, I didn't get world class Physio treatment mind! I hope he comes back stronger and continues this run, but it will be a challenge.
I also fear that this result may turn his head a little more towards Madrid.


{Ed002's Note - Maybe Dr Klopp should have been so quick to tell the world how serious his injury is?}

1.) 27 May 2018 10:44:42
All I know is that Ramos meant that and no amount of fake apologies on his part change that.

2.) 27 May 2018 10:48:04
Actually Firmane, why would he want to go and play in a team where a player intentionally set out to take him out of the game by foul means and potentially cost him a place at the World Cup?

3.) 27 May 2018 10:48:19
Yeah I bet he can’t wait so go and join the team with the player who just probably accidentally injured him to make him miss the final and then the World Cup etc. Don’t worry salah has showed he’s strong mentally already coming back to England to prove he can play etc.

4.) 27 May 2018 10:49:51
I think Salah will go to the World Cup. I'm hoping that the injury is not as serious as it could be and it's just a knock. Worst case he goes and plays when not fully fit and aggrivates it or makes it worse.

5.) 27 May 2018 11:05:34
Turn his head towards Madrid? He may never recover? Jesus what nonsense do people spout on here at times. We lost a football game. End off. If anyone in the team wants to leave, let them leave. They will be replaced. The issue wasn’t Salah getting injured, the issue was we didn’t have anyone of similar calibre to come on. This can be addressed in the summer. Stop over analysing evertything and making it doom and gloom. Keita is coming in, looks like Fekir also, new top class goalkeeper (hopefully) and potentially a Dembele or similar. All points to a positive future. Every player from last night should be proud and learn from the experience, including Karius. We mourn today and then tomorrow we look at how we can improve. Onwards and upwards!

6.) 27 May 2018 11:12:02
There was no accident there Jezza. Ramos knew what he was doing.

{Ed025's Note - he did deliberately drag him down by linking his arm FMS but i doubt he meant to hurt him mate..

7.) 27 May 2018 11:22:42
I'll be fine and will bounce back stronger then ever!

Come on mate, Salah is a very strong individual, I think it's a bad injury and personally I think he'll be out of the WC which is absolutely terrible news for the man but he'll bounce back. Come August we'll see him scoring left right and centre again.

8.) 27 May 2018 11:55:26
Well said Nulty.



25 May 2018 18:17:50
Just think about Madrids journey to the final, hats off to them! Yeah they came second to Spurs but we're in the group of death, then to see off the French Chanpions, Italian champions and then the German Chanpions is very respectable. Arguably to them, Liverpool would be the easiest game in Europe since the group stages. On paper those three teams are probably better, but in a final Liverpool can beat anyone! I'm so buzzing now! Either way, win or lose, I'm proud of the boys, a win would just be incredible though!


{Ed025's Note - good post that mate..

1.) 25 May 2018 20:24:09
I thought that their win against PSG was the most impressive by far. They kind of scraped passed Bayern and were unspectacular against Juve.

I honestly belive, in the words of Ron, that we will blow them away, I truly do, but I am trying to remain cautious. Fowler knows how am going to get through tomorrow.

2.) 25 May 2018 21:01:03
RM were pretty lucky vs PSG at the Bernabeu cos the third goal should not have stood due to a foul on the PSG defender Kimpembe but that's just my opinion. Another thing is that RM struggled vs Spurs who pressed them and even they can't play the press in the way we do and in diff. variations either.

All that said, RM can win this thing just as much as we can and that in itself is an achievement cos their team has been around for about 5 years 9th hundreds and millions spent while ours has only been around for half that time with a fraction of their spending. But as Klopp says, good tactics and preparations are the greatest equalizers and that is how we got to the final. A bit of luck does not hurt either.

3.) 26 May 2018 00:36:41
I think it Madrid played Spurs in the knockout it's a different ball game, they step up when it matters.



19 May 2018 10:50:21
On the whole Dembele debate if we could get a loan with option to buy I think it would be great in addition to someone like fekir. He's young quick, two footed and has potential, klopp can take a real look at him and he can see if he feels he can settle in Liverpool.
General question on loan to buys, if the loan happened and a fee was agreed at the start, can the selling club to chose to sell elsewhere even if the buying club wanted to go forward? Like what if he came and was excellent, and someone else wanted him, and were prepared to pay more? Is the contract binding to the buying club?


{Ed002's Note - Barcelona are not looking for a loan with an "option" to buy. They would be looking for a loan with a commitment to buy as they want the money they paid back - and as the significantly overpaid, that is a tough call.}

1.) 19 May 2018 11:14:07
There is no way he is a €100 mill player. For that kind of sum we could buy anyone! Barcelona overpaid and now they want their new money back.

2.) 19 May 2018 11:29:57
Then we can get Dembele on loan with an option to buy next season and pay for Fekir this season?

3.) 19 May 2018 11:44:27
There’s no way he was worth what they paid, Dortmund did well to extract that fee. Plus we have seen first hand with Sturridge and Owen how bad a recurring hamstring injury can be and given how quickly he knacked his hamstring after returning from the same injury, it leaves a huge question mark.

4.) 19 May 2018 11:54:30
Dembele isn't worth what Barcelona shelled out for him, no way we are paying that amount with an agreement after the loan. Might as well forget it, tbh do we really need him?

5.) 19 May 2018 11:57:41
That's where the sticking point will be, if it's a €100 million commitment to buy then Barcelona will do well to get anyone to bite, when you consider that he would not necessarily be a starter for us I just can't see it happening.

6.) 19 May 2018 12:17:00
I think Klopp will go big for Pulisic if that becomes possible, but not for Dembele.

7.) 19 May 2018 11:20:55
A commitment for someone else to buy and significantly overpay too though, Ed002?
It seems like, for once, their bargaining position is weak from the out-set?

{Ed002's Note - That is what they would like - but a straight sale would also work for them. They know that Real MAdrid have a two year plan to completely refresh the squad and Barcelona have some players they now need to move on because of their age and because they are not seen as good enough. Hence they will listen to offers for the lieks of Dembele.}

8.) 19 May 2018 11:47:46
Vak, Ed02 already said that Barcelona want a loan with a commitment to buy cos they want most or all of their money back. Sorry, that ain't going to happen cos we ain't paying 90m for Dembele so IMO, people salivating over his potential arrival need to pump the brakes.

9.) 19 May 2018 12:01:07
Thanks for that clarification ed. I’d agree it does make it a difficult call for any club interested in him. More reason to believe if Liverpool do go in for him it maybe with preparation for a big offer for one of our front three.

10.) 19 May 2018 12:54:02
Why won’t we pay that money?
Price is irrelevant.
It’s if The player improves the squad and Dembele
certainly would.
How would a team defend against the pace of Dembele, Salah and Mane?
Mouth watering.
Love our club!

11.) 19 May 2018 12:59:57
Whereas a I agree that price is irrelevant, what is relevant is that the lad has had successive hamstring injuries, which given the problems Sturridge and Owen had, would be a reason to avoid. It’s easy to defend against a player who is on the treatment table.

12.) 19 May 2018 13:10:30
Flidby, no way we will spend that amount of money on one player mate, a player many people would say we don't need.

13.) 19 May 2018 13:05:12
Ed02, would Dembele enhance our first team? Would he get a regular starting spot? Do you see us going for him irrespective of what Macca has said?

(Ps I know your trying to stay away from transfer news, sorry in advance)



{Ed002's Note - As a replacement for Salah he would get games. I am not sure if Macca has said he is a "done deal" or not, but everyone here has been telling me that Fekir, Lemar, Maddison and many others are already "done deals".}

14.) 19 May 2018 13:12:18
If we are happy to spend 90 million, what has happened to lemar? Aren't Monaco getting the start of the mbappe money This year, will they go for a delayed payment scheme? For 90 million in sure others of that calibre would be available, Pulisic, Malcolm have been mentioned. If Barcelona want rid, then the only way we should be looking at him is if it is a cut price deal, 90 million is not the price for someone who they want gone.

15.) 19 May 2018 13:36:57
Eds answer to Niall above is enough for me to make my own mind up. "As a replacement for Salah" he would get games. Simple really.

16.) 19 May 2018 13:14:55
Surely to god the financial requirement needed Ed is beyond our reach?

17.) 19 May 2018 18:49:31
I think in light of the £142m from Coutinho and our money from a good champions league run as well as our prize money from the premier league, we are in a good position financially and the best for a very long time.

{Ed002's Note - What £142M?}

18.) 19 May 2018 19:22:16
This is why we shouldn't talk money MrShankly.

19.) 19 May 2018 19:17:04
I know you don't like talking money ed but that has been the figure in the press since he left could you disclose the fee or just say if it was lower or higher.

{Ed002's Note - Just to clarify matters:
€120,000,000 Paid in five instalments between January 2018 and June 2020.
€5,000,000 Paid when player has appeared in 25 first class games for the club between January 2018 and May 2020.
€5,000,000 Paid when player has appeared in 50 first class games for the club between January 2018 and May 2020.
€5,000,000 Paid when player has appeared in 75 first class games for the club between January 2018 and May 2020.
€5,000,000 Paid when player has appeared in 100 first class games for the club between January 2018 and May 2020.
€5,000,000 Paid when Barcelona qualify for the Group Stages of the 2018/19 Champions League.
€5,000,000 Paid when Barcelona win the 2018/19 Champions League.
€5,000,000 Paid when Barcelona qualify for the Group Stages of the 2019/20 Champions League.
€5,000,000 Paid when Barcelona win the 2019/20 Champions League.

FIFA Solidarity payment of 2.5% of the fees to be paid by Liverpool to Inter between January 2018 and June 2020 (first payment (calculated from the €120M and not the instalments) was actually made in March. Two further payments will be made with the amounts increased to reflect any additional payments due for appearances etc.).
FIFA Solidarity payment of 2.5% of the fees to be paid by Liverpool to Vasco de Gama between January 2018 and June 2020 (first payment (calculated from the €120M and not the instalments) was late and FIFA intervened to force Liverpool to pay the money in to ESCROW with The FA. Two further payments will be made with the amounts increased to reflect any additional payments due for appearances etc.).}

20.) 19 May 2018 20:37:13
thanks ed02 for clearing that up, your knowledge is amazing, Liverpool got an amazing deal if he does well there but I can't believe Liverpool were late making a payment.

21.) 19 May 2018 21:48:18
Flidby, money may be irrelevant BUT it still does not grow on trees and we are NOT flush with cash either so that statement is as you say, irrelevant. A football club signs a player for both football and business reasons. If both don't make sense as this one does NOT cos we don't need Dembele for that price and Salah is going nowhere, you don't do the deal. There is NOTHING mouth-watering about making a dumb deal like this except you want us to do a Pogba with Utd, one deal that they are prolly regretting as we speak. It's that simple.

22.) 20 May 2018 01:07:50
Hi ED02.Your reply to Grajac was amazing, full of insight that is very educational for those of us that come on here for such information and banter/ talk.

I know you recently had a tough time due to some ignorrant Liverpool fans, but I really hope you are not too dishartened to continue your usual input on this site.
Would love to have you back on full time like before.

Reading your insiggts and that of ED01 as well as some of the other eds is very interesting to say the least.

Thanks Again.

{Ed002's Note - It is not an issue with the Liverpool fans RK. Thanks for the kind words.}

23.) 20 May 2018 18:21:36
There's lots wrong with that post flidby, 1 money is not irrelevant and 150/ 160 mill for him and fekir looks improbable at best it would also leave nothing for the areas we need to address. 2 are we playing 3 right wingers behind mane and sticking fekir on the bench? Not a lot of it adds up. I think dembele has just become and it is being looked at as an opportunity but they money will be too much in the end.

24.) 20 May 2018 18:23:00
Kloppsred if Salah was to go next season there would be more than enough funds to pay for him 3 times over haha even so it probably wouldn’t be all up front anyway, we might pay a % at the start of the loan (barca might want to get someone in early) then more when the year is up and the deal is made permanent and then the rest in bonuses/ installments.



18 May 2018 07:39:03
I find it funny how a lot of posters say we need more strength in depth, allow rotation and still have quality, then say about Dembele being linked ah he won't get a game over our front three.
Salah mane and firmino have played a lot this season and going to the wolrld cup. We can rotate a player each week, like most if not all other big clubs do. Same with midfield. We need to add real quality, not someone who is not going to challenge the starting 11.


1.) 18 May 2018 07:52:33
I think the fact that there are so many dembeles has people confused haha Barcelona Dembele Celtic Dembele Tottenham Dembele? A team of dembeles?

2.) 18 May 2018 08:06:45
"we all dream of a team of Dembeles, a team of Dembeles, a team of Dembeles"

Well, that's the song sorted!

One of the Eds (I think 002) said that he was Klopp's preferred option over Mane.

I said a couple of days ago that I would be extremely happy for us to buy First 11 improvements, even if they displace established players, as that only makes the team stronger.

Trust in Klopp.

3.) 18 May 2018 10:41:00
As another poster has stated, I’d probably hope it’s spurs Dembele, it’s been made clear we’re after a versatile attacker, surely that’s Fekir? Of course they could be a list of potential targets not a list of everyone we want to have. Spurs Dembele would surely strengthen our midfield.




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27 May 2018 20:33:36
Has there been an illegal approach ed? Hope they've learnt their lesson!


{Ed002's Note - They don't know - a journalist announced a deal had been reached with Liverpool and Lyon knew nothing of such an agreement. Hence the statement from them saying that Liverpool has not contacted them.}



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27 May 2018 16:55:41
I don't have qualms with lallan being brought on, throwing an inexperienced player into a game like that would be hard. I think we should have matched their diamond and played firmino and mane up top. We know they'll roam around anyway.




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24 May 2018 07:48:10
It's a shame that with the shortened window, it's less likely chiravella will get a shot to prove himself.




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21 May 2018 23:14:58
I have wondered about mbappe if he will ever reach his potential playing in the French league. I think one of the eds has said he may well end up at Madrid, but he needs to be tested.




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21 May 2018 23:13:13
What on earth does he dresses to the right mean?


{Ed002's Note - Jolly Gosh, I thought all of the Brits would understand that.}




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27 May 2018 23:32:14
Lallana doesn't win the ball back. He dives into tackles, there's no point pressing high, tackling a man for it to go flying out of play. Look at firmino, when he tackles someone, he wins the ball, he uses his body, and keeps it.




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27 May 2018 23:30:00
No way could we afford that - That'll be the best part of 300 million. Jorginho is out the picture, and I think it'll be butland, one game does not change all transfer plans.




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27 May 2018 10:40:46
I think lamps may make a decent manager, quite an intelligent bloke especially for a footballer.




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26 May 2018 23:37:07
The second is most worrying for me, the weak wrists, the fact he is in mid air for a shot that is head height. Nearly got caught vs Roma and got caught badly today.




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26 May 2018 22:41:33
Nothing is stopping bales goal, we didn't make any stupid mistakes bar iscos chance, lovren and VVD were solid enough. Really disappointed in the fact that after Salah went off we just never had a a chance to give it a go.