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01 Nov 2017 21:47:30
hey edo1 was looking through your chat sites and was wondering would you consider doing one for fantasy nfl maybe not the most popular thing in uk but i know a lot of people who participate.


{Ed033's Note - if you (and others) can go on our NFL rumors we can discuss this Fantasy NFL chat.

1.) 01 Nov 2017 23:50:29
nfl, really? no offense but its boring.

2.) 02 Nov 2017 08:03:30
It's not boring- it's just a different sport and an education in time management.

3.) 02 Nov 2017 09:27:22
Its really boring, and the officiating is horrendous! I'd rather watch baseball.

4.) 02 Nov 2017 09:29:13
And the worst thing about it is the name. How on earth can you call a game where the ball is their hands for 95% of the time FOOTBALL? Just hilarious, but not in a good way!

5.) 02 Nov 2017 09:36:46
All team sports have their individual attractions, the NFL is all about highly coordinated flashes of intensity. If you can appreciate that then you'll like the sport, if not you'll find it dull.

6.) 02 Nov 2017 15:24:43
I've enjoyed watching edited NFL matches, just the game itself. Can't spend watching 4 hours of a sport for 1 hour of actual play, which will involve maybe a third of that time actually doing things.

7.) 05 Nov 2017 10:07:48
Putney is correct here lads. Though first off, they mainly use their hands, and play with an egg. No feet. No balls. Not football.

Personally, i hate watching American HandEgg. However, I do like seeing the highlights because it cuts out the hours of adverts and analysis crammed into 15 minutes of actual play. Those 15 minutes are actually spectacular displays of skill, athleticism and tactics though. There are players in the NFL who could bench press Sam Allardyce, stand up, and then beat Salah in a 100m sprint. It's scary to watch at times.

Everybody has a sport they love though, and HandEgg is no different. I like Tennis, F1 and Golf. Most people would say they're boring too though!



01 Nov 2017 17:08:14
Got a bit of a topic for discussion guys:
Lately Im seeing posts saying we miss Adam Lallana and tbh Im unsure about this because in a perfect world if all squad is fit I only see him as an impact sub, my reasoning being he is an attacking midfielder so our current attacking f our would be, Mane (left), Salah (right), Firminio (through middle), Coutinho (centre) like a diamond formation of a front 4, I can't see him replacing what should be the 2 more disciplined midfielders. So what you guys think is he a starter or is he an impact sub.


1.) 01 Nov 2017 18:01:35
I'd like us to go back to the midfield of henderson lallana and Wijnaldum . That got us top of the league last autumn.

2.) 01 Nov 2017 18:21:16
so then hugh which one of salah, mane coutinho and firminio you drop for that to happen.

{Ed001's Note - has to be Coutinho, he has been, quite frankly, terrible since he came back this season.}

3.) 01 Nov 2017 18:37:39
Rotation for different games, but if everyone was fit and available, and it was a big game, then salah would be a great supersub.

4.) 01 Nov 2017 18:54:27
Salah sub? Hilarious! he would be leaving in 2 minutes if that was to happen! He has been our best player this season, followed by Firmino, Mane has been injured and when he came back from injury last time he was a shadow of the mane we know, Coutinho has been terrible and has already left the club mentally.

5.) 01 Nov 2017 19:10:48
The issue is getting them all fit and getting them on the pitch. The more players to pick from the better. I wouldn't say we are missing Lallana too much but he did do quite well last season. No doubt when we get Lallana back someone else will get injured.

6.) 01 Nov 2017 23:13:26
Lallana takes Wiji's place, not one of the forwards.

7.) 01 Nov 2017 23:21:43
Hugh, I stopped reading when you said our current main source for goals would be a good super sub. Give your head a wobble lad cos you need to do some more critical thinking. Lallana is a huge miss for us as he gives us more creativity in midfield and is the trigger for the press. Our mid's are too similar and that is where Lallana offers something different that the pothers can't.

Cou has not been good since he came back even tho he has score 4 goals in all comps. this season. He is clearly not at the level he was last season before his injury where he was simply tearing it up. He has to do better or Lallana should take his spot in CM next to Hendo/ Can and Wiji.



27 Sep 2017 11:56:50
Had a conversation this morning about last nights game and the conversation came to Sturridge but an interesting question arose, now its a game of what if, so hers the question.

If Sturridge never had an injury would we be calling him a world class striker today ( now i know in the premise of reality we wouldn't have got him from chelsea for 12m if he hadnt been a risk but leave that aside)

so Eds and fellow posters what's the opinion.


{Ed002's Note - He left Chelsea because he wanted to play as a centre forward and Chelsea had Drogba playing there (and he had suffered some injuries) - although no one denies that on form he is a good player. This (not being at CF) made him sulk and he was sold. Liverpool fans are obsessed with terms like "world class" without really thinking what it sensibly means. If you take it as being a squad of 25 players and one coach picked from around the world to play in the Intergalactic Super Cup, then I doubt anyone but his mother would include him in this "world class squad".}

1.) 27 Sep 2017 12:38:55
Ed who would make your 25 player squad for the Intergalactic super cup?

{Ed002's Note - I will tell you what, given that there is little transfer news right now, we can have a thread a day where we can gradually build the 25 man squad and a couple of coaches that we can get folks agreeing would be the best. We can use the Banter page for this and it will be one thread per day - I will dictate the formation of GK, RB, CB, CB, LB, DM, DM, RW, CM/AM, LW, CF and Coach. The squad will be buit around 3 GK, 2 RB, 4 CB, 2 LB, 3 DM, 2 RW, 3 CM, 1 AM, 2 LW, 3 CF and 2 Coaches.

I will start the first thread today - allowing people to sensibly discuss and agree three goalkeepers. Posts which are trying to mess up the thread will be deleted, as will anything mentioning any of the Liverpool goalkeepers.}

2.) 27 Sep 2017 13:12:56
Out of interest Ed002, which coach would be the one you would go for in such an Intergalactic Super Squad?

I won't bore you by asking which 25 players would go in! Just the one manager who you see as the world's best will do!

{Ed002's Note - I will tell you when we get to coaches.}

3.) 27 Sep 2017 18:11:54
I think to say there are only 25 world class players on the whole planet is a bit too elitist. Not knocking you ed02 my mate its your opinion. I called Hendo an lallana near to world class when I was getting carried away a few weeks ago so you can see our definitions are miles apart!

People talk about world class but the term "Form" is rarely mentioned. Even the very best players, like Bale, have bad games. Or even bad seasons. Ronaldo, he has poor matches, where his pass are yards off, his runs are too early.

So your undoubtedly world class player can play poorly. And on the same evening you could have Bournemouth's josh king scoring two absolute worldies and getting the most beautiful assist. In the paper king got a 9 and Ronaldo got a 6. It's not like fifa where you have a set skill level. Like the eds say, football is a transient thing and in a way form is too.

Between August and December in 2016 Adam Lallana was really really good. It felt like something was going to happen every time he got the ball and it quite often did. The only thing I would like to see more of from Ads is a more clinical finish. I think there are plenty of potential world class players.

We have one, nearly two and maybe a third but that remains to be seen, he has started very well, if he continues and ends up with 30 goals then he has to become a candidate for the elusive world class label.

4.) 27 Sep 2017 18:57:13
It is a good point about world class being a long term not short term thing. Without the injuries I think Sturridge would have been one of the best forwards in the world. World class is questionable. The 25 player squad idea doesn't work for me because it is possible for the 25 world class players to all play in just 2 or 3 positions. Personally I think world class should be judged against the past players and your true ability against them and your peers plus how they consistently impact the game. Ronaldo and Messi are world class, Rooney never was (and I've never understood why anyone thought he was) and I don't think Sturridge would have been.



23 Sep 2017 23:01:17
Watched the match in the pub as usual, had a good sort of day (atleast we won) Had 5 bets Kane, Lukaku, MOrata, augero and Salah, so day paid for itself with a few quid left over, but dam watching the match among a load of fans the tension is palpable even when we are winning 2-0, so ill give you my summary of the game.

Simon Mignolet: im over him now its like watching saloms lot when you was a kid and the young brother scrapes the window and im scared all over again, he never looks comfortable, I know you can say he saved the penalty but all keepers study penalty takers and Vardy always goes to the middle so chances are if they remember what the study they save it

Joe Gomez: the sooner he plays at centerback the better it will be for him he's learning bad habits, it might be the system we play he is always trying to nip in first, he and Moreno need to learn as a defender defending comes first but he was solid enough except for the time albrighton skinned him.

Alberto Moreno: its hard when your best performing defender is Moreno, i know he might have done better for their second but so should others have

Joel Matip: Wasnt that bad today not marvellous sill looks a bit lazy but that be how he moves that big frame mad one vital block and i must say marking vardy ain't easy

Dejan Lovren: a friend best summed him up after the 15th minute he looked at me and said he thinks Lovren plays for the bookmakers, how an international can't pass a ball gets attracted to the ball like a moth to light and he's like a kid you tell not to eat sweets always makes the wrong decision

Emre Can: not an overall bad game for Emre good energy covered well enough but too many unforced mistakes its likes playing chess and thinking of what he wants to do 3 moves later

Gini Winjaldum: Really going through a bleak period looks unconfident and still slowing the game up too much

Jordan Henderson: I know ill get hell for this but i still think he snot at his best might have been best of midfielders today that's not saying much yes he scored, yes he covered plenty of ground but still going to get someone murdered with his underpassing and always closing our guy with the ball down needs to give more options.

MIDFEILD: on a sidenote, i know it looks a bit chaotic how we press but there is a method to the madness, one guy presses the player with the ball and the other pressers cover the passing lanes cutting his options of a pass down forcing the turnover, so when our midfielders are ontop of each other as they have been lately the get played around like what is happening frequently lately

Phillippe Countinho: It was a bit like the waterboy when the guy is holding his nipples when the ball is in the air you just knew he was scoring that freekick, i think he is trying hard to prove himself to everybody and is showing flashes i believe he is still a bit off full fitness he became the top scorer of goals from outside the box today with 16 goals

Mohammed Salah: I don't mind him missing sitters i just feel he will get enough chances and will score eventually, must say his header was class

Roberto Firmino: Hard working as usual unselfish work rate, its hard when your playing up against two monsters like morgan and Maguire (impressed me a bit) when your just 5'11".

James Milner: Id rather see Grujic get the chance but shows good energy and his experience was needed when we looked to be getting the gitters
Daniel Sturridge: showed some good flashes and worked as hard as he can done well. Only one criticism and its not his fault his lack of energy off the ball when Leicester had it made morgan and maguire look like Lothar Matthaus striding out with the ball
was there a third sub can't remember

I think we need go out and buy some seat belts at least until January its going to be a roller-coaster ride, we always look dangerous but we take too many chances in defence, and no matter what the experts say i don't think our defenders on the ball are as comfortable as people think, our midfield need to stop acting like they are in each other pockets, yes you need to work like a unit but you can't get played through as easy as it happening because they are on top of each other.


1.) 24 Sep 2017 00:19:25
I remember Saloms Lot it scared the crap out of me wasn't David Sole in that? Oh and your right so does Migs but let's get over the ref rant people we won.

2.) 24 Sep 2017 02:20:23
Leicester are a team of thugs and cheats and the manager is an absolute idiot. Klopp has been getting a hard time lately which I personally think is well out of line. But Shakespeare subbed the two players who can deliver good bills into the box in mahrez and Albrighton. What a mong. I think Leicester may have nicked a point if those two had stayed on. It's all very well bringing on tall forwards Shakespeare but not for the players who supply them!

Migs gets a lot of stick and rightly so but he saved a penalty and won us the match today. He has earned a respite from abuse for a few days. Hendo has taken a lot of stick lately and I thought he was sensational. A bit unsure with z couple of clearances but overall would have been my man of the match after pipco. That is why we told Barcelona to jog on.

Amazing player, the space he makes for himself. Danny s was a great sub. Kept the Leicester back four thinking and was unlucky not ro score. Look it was a win. If every game ended like that we would win every trophy up for grabs. Thought matip was ok today, never a free kick, vardy looked for it and won.



21 Sep 2017 11:25:18
Hi ed01 got a question for you as you said yesterday you have been watching RBL Liepzig recently. I watched a podcast yesterday where some journalists where talking about our start to the season and how it compares when Klopp took over at Dortmund (yes he had a stronger defensive base when he took over and brought Subotic from Mainz to join Hummels), but they brought the lead football writer from Der Zone (spelt wrong) a guy named Alexander Schurtler (spelling) as an expert on Klopp at Dortmund but the thing he said that took my notice most is that he states Naby Kieta is the best player in the Bundesliga, now i've look at youtube and as we all know even Quasimodo could look like a superstar on youtube, but as youve stated youve watched a bit of him recently what's your own assessment please.


{Ed001's Note - he was also on Bein Sports saying the same things mate. It is difficult to argue from what I have seen this season. Lewandowski is not at his best, nor is Aubameyang so far. Keita has really stood out like a sore thumb. What I have seen has made me really excited for his arrival.}

1.) 21 Sep 2017 11:43:58
thanks for the quick reply Ed maybe its a bit of a bright light at the end of a dark tunnel.

{Ed001's Note - it looks like a blindingly bright light so far this season, he really does look a worldy.}

2.) 21 Sep 2017 11:57:54
How would you like to see up line up with him in the team Ed001? Would he be our defensive midfielder?

{Ed001's Note - god no, he is a box to box midfielder. We need someone to sit deep and him in central midfield in front, alongside another central mid.}

3.) 21 Sep 2017 13:25:19
DM? No way. You might as well give him back to RBL and forget about it. Naby is unbelievable, a true football specimen both physically and technically. Pace, power, vision, dribbling ability, shooting, scoring and assisting. The total package. Another thing tha caught my eye when he played vs Schalke this season, he is the king of the nutmeg, lol. He nutmeged the oppo at least 4/ 5 times in that game. He should be the B2B when he comes in with someone else sitting in behind.

4.) 21 Sep 2017 13:37:40
Oh that' will do for me! If eds says he's a worldy then that's made my day.
Just need two CB and defensive midfielder and I'd be over the moon.
Oh and ward between the sticks.

5.) 21 Sep 2017 14:02:27
Along the lines of

Keita Coutinho

Shame the other 2 will most likely be off ed. We will be doing another rebuilding project won't we?

6.) 21 Sep 2017 14:33:14
Can will be gone.

7.) 21 Sep 2017 15:03:45
The guy is just incredible at picking up the ball and transitioning defence into attack - he gets back and does the dirty work, but once he has possession and gets on the move, defences are scared of him with the ball at his feet, he's a bit like a midfield version of Mane breaking forward.

I think he's going to be incredible at adding a real threat to our play from midfield, think a Hendo, Keita and Coutinio midfield would be phenomenal.

8.) 21 Sep 2017 16:08:09
To see Keita at his best next season, we need to sign a CDM. If we can keep Coutinho as well, it will be Keita, Coutinho and a CDM in midfield. Now that is what a well balanced midfield is supposed to look like, not this juggled up mess we have right now.

9.) 21 Sep 2017 17:06:01
Keita, Llalana and Gary Medal eds?

{Ed001's Note - Medel looks a bit past his best now sadly.}

10.) 21 Sep 2017 23:39:49
Only just turned 30 and with his nous should be able for a couple of years, come on eds dream a bit. 😋.

{Ed001's Note - I would love to but I see signs of a player who is worn out when I watch him. Might just need a break, Chile's players have had an insane schedule over the last few years.}




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07 Dec 2017 21:38:25
i think the erratic performances of henderson deem he is not an automatic starter, but i like the guy he comes across pretty good guy and he does work hard for the team but i think it all goes back to the injury to the foot when he went for the operation the recovery didn't seem as smooth as was predicted and he seemed to lose a step, this could be in his head because the injury is always in the back of his head as it was said it could be managed but not totally healed but it could also be because the role he is being asked to play does not suit him either, just my 5 cents worth.




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20 Nov 2017 14:40:07
talking about money again only leads to disagreements let's just say there are now other options open to coutinho whom seems to have made it clear he wants out.




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20 Nov 2017 14:45:56
this will sound brutal but i was pleased when i read this as his legs gone and although he seems nice enough guy and seems to have a good footballing brain his body won't hold up to constant games and id also rather see the chances he has got this season so far go to solanke whom i have been impressed by and want to see more off.




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12 Nov 2017 13:48:47
I like Coutinho but Im at the point where I think its over he just needs to go i agree the club should get the best deal they can for him but come 1st Feb. he should be a Barcelona player or whoever i just don't care now a good solid offer, I don't ind addons as long as they aren't stupid like ballon dor and that

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29 Aug 2017 00:52:48
I think people have to stop thinking of cost/ prices which are being threw around for players bought and sold the cost/ value of players has been rising over the years and especially this season its out the window. Its a true sellers market out there now valuations are worthless as at the end of the day its the selling club who dictates what they want and obviously some clubs value players differently.





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12 Dec 2017 20:33:38
people have been going on for ages about how klopp should sort the defence out but really if you could name one defender (cb) who would actually sort it out, i find myself wacthing other leagues when i have a bet in them and watching centerbacks and to be honest there is a severe lack of quality defenders never mind centerbacks alone, plus you also have to take it in mind are they available.




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12 Dec 2017 20:28:39
guys what you all have to understand he's 22 he's going to improve with the right coaching what we see now is be far not the finished article.




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09 Dec 2017 15:23:37
i agree its a disgrace, i actually haven't any time for any of the pundits in football today I started using bein because they use the darts guy as commentator and he's funny and talks about every player by their first name like they are besties. But the pundits on sky and bt are useless to listen to, look at the show the debate, which by its name you think they would have ex players managers from opposing teams having a debate yet they used giggs and p. neville to debate both derbies this weekend absolute joke.




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07 Dec 2017 23:24:23
just a feelilng but i think there will be 4 changes for sunday, i think trent arnold for gomez, hendo for can/ gini, chamberlain for salah/ mane and ofcourse the usual mignolet for karius.
we are still playing another 3 games in the upcoming 7 days then 5 days until the arsenal game then 4 games in 10 days from the arsenal game so i expect klopp to rotate as he's been doing.




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07 Dec 2017 23:15:19
klopp said last night in the post match presser that it was a 4411 with couts left mane right firminio upfront and salah between the lines.