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17 Aug 2017 20:50:44
Seeing reports that Mane and Can are out of this weekends fixture due to knocks. Eds please tell me this is not true.


{Ed001's Note - I haven't heard one way or the other sorry.}

1.) 17 Aug 2017 21:04:20
As long as they're fit for Wednesday. If we can't beat Crystal Palace without them (Huddersfield thrashed them) then we really have problems!

2.) 17 Aug 2017 21:24:28
Huddersfield's result has no baring on how we'll do. Why do fans always go "oh so and so thrashed them so we will"?

3.) 17 Aug 2017 21:27:29
We have a big enough squad to cope. Grujic or Milner in for Can and then Origi, Sturridge or Solanke in for Mané. Still gives us a strong team. If we can't cope without them for a game it doesn't bode well for a season where we could (hopefully) be fighting in four different competitions!

4.) 17 Aug 2017 21:38:25
People tend to forget that Palace has won on the last three visits to Anfield.

5.) 17 Aug 2017 22:04:55
They'll be missing Zaha which is huge for them. I'd back us against anyone in our first home game of the season.

6.) 17 Aug 2017 22:48:14
The way De Boer sets his team up helps us. I think we'll win comfortably. Hope Stuzza starts and gets an early goal, hoping for him to really show up this season.

7.) 17 Aug 2017 23:25:04
If true, Kent in for Mane. Deserves his chance after pre season.

8.) 18 Aug 2017 03:11:08
I'd expect origi and Milner to come in. Already looking thin. I really hope we bring in some more quality. Not 100% convinced we will. If that was the plan it would've happened already wouldn't it? Are we still going to be sat here with mere hours to end of window expecting 3 quality signings?

9.) 18 Aug 2017 07:57:46
CP is our bogey team at home and De Boer will not definitely park the bus a bit cos he will not want to get thrashed like he did last week. It will not be an easy game and also, Benteke feels right at home at Anfield when on the opposing side.

10.) 18 Aug 2017 08:52:55
I don't get that squad is looking thin. Who could we possibly sign to replace Mane when he's injured? Someone of the same quality that's happy to sit on the bench to wait for an injury just isn't going to happen. We have a big enough forward line to juggle things around and still beat most teams.

11.) 18 Aug 2017 13:34:42
Confirmation off somebody would be good as I have mane in my fantasy lol.

12.) 18 Aug 2017 15:57:04
The squad is not thin, it's just not filled with enough quality. Still a lot of youngsters on the bench. We should have that quality that allows some of our first team (naming no names) to start on the bench.

13.) 20 Aug 2017 09:46:13
Those youngsters have been narrowed down over the past few seasons to those with a chance of being good enough. TAA we're seeing that potential with and Gomez was bought for that potential. People seem to think those lads will magically get experience and develop whilst sitting in the stands watching a series mid to late 20s imports play. There are plenty of players out there to buy but personally i'm not convinced those that would significantly improve things are firstly in big supply and secondly available to buy. The club now needs to do a better job with developing with what it has. There isn't a consistently top 4 standard keeper available to buy right now. We saw with Bravos and Hart last season that buying guys from bug clubs etc doesn't work out by default. Same with defenders, how many that will be consistently good enough to make LFC into title challengers are available to buy? Matip, Lovren, Gomez and Klavan may just have to be worked on and the midfield improved to cover across them.

Plus most on here would find something to moan abour. If you talk about Lloris people say the defence makes him look good, if ypu say to go for those defenders apparently they're all crap and no better than what is already here. Most who complain couldn't name genuinely viable targets they know would improve the squad to title winning level. So ultimately it is time for the coaches to be the target here and they do everything they can to sort this. There is no one shot solution out there.



25 Jul 2017 08:21:33
Eds have you heard anything about Chelsea bidding for VVD. Media reporting they're in for him. Our history of rivalling Chelsea for players is not the best.


{Ed001's Note - they were interested but walked away when Saints quoted them a price, that was prior to all the storm over our move for him. Ed002 has told you all this already.}

1.) 25 Jul 2017 08:29:59
Cheers Ed 01 was just wondering if anything had changed as media are recycling the info again then. Keep up the good work, love the site.

{Ed001's Note - it is best to just ignore the media to be honest. It is all just hearsay and bull in the main.}

2.) 25 Jul 2017 08:33:41
Cheers Ed 01. That's what happens when you're on holiday from work. Too much spare time on my hands. I can't actually wait for season to start and window to close so we can just go about our business on the pitch.

{Ed001's Note - holiday? What's one of those?}

3.) 25 Jul 2017 08:42:53
Bit of a concern re Vvd now as Chelsea have appeared to have an interest. What a complete cock up by lfc in this transfer market.

4.) 25 Jul 2017 08:53:50
Transfer window is still open for another 5 weeks, quit the hysteria mate.

{Ed002's Note - Right now he is still "not for sale". If that changes the prior interest of Arsenal and Chelsea may return.}

5.) 25 Jul 2017 09:11:34
Hardly hysteria mate just fact.
Here's another fact if an it looks very possible we miss out on our two main targets do we go for as all decent players have been snapped up. This season is massive for lfc an yet again we haven't addressed our biggest problem keeper and defence.

6.) 25 Jul 2017 09:22:18
And VVD has previously told Liverpool he'll choose us over Chelsea, I doubt much has changed in that respect.

7.) 25 Jul 2017 09:43:16
Does Rudiger not affects Chelsea's interest ed002?

{Ed002's Note - No Fencey.}

8.) 25 Jul 2017 10:10:03
Hello Eds
Thanks for all the ways you have been engaging us, with banter, answers to questions and general information.
Please explain how transfers work. Not as a whole but as pertaining to getting one's target. You mentioned that once VVD is placed on sale, the interests from Arsenal and Chelsea are still on the table. How would this affect us getting our man seeing he wants us and we are willing to pay the asking price. When would a bidding war come into play?
Apologies for asking so many questions.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool formally withdrew their interest in the player. If they were to change their minds they could approach Southampton, who have the stance thet they do not wish to sell - although the player's position is I would think untenable now.}



16 Jul 2017 07:53:04
Eds is there any truth do you know in the rumours circulating about Sturridge turning down a big offer from China?

And if true does that mean LFC accepted the offer in the first place?


{Ed001's Note - I don't know.}

1.) 16 Jul 2017 09:42:08
Not many players will be going china this year. Its a world cup year, hopefully we keep stuge fit so he can fire his way back into that starting 11.

{Ed002's Note - The Chinese Transfer Window is now closed.}

2.) 16 Jul 2017 09:51:56
Considering Klopp does not intend to sign a striker this window, letting Sturridge go would be nothing short of suicidal. He is a top class finisher when fit, and it would not make sense to put the goalscoring burden on a 19 year old Solanke and a 21 year old Origi.

3.) 16 Jul 2017 10:45:53
He's as fragile as china.

Goes to pieces when dropped.

4.) 16 Jul 2017 10:45:56
I personally I hope Mr Kopp does sign another striker in this window. Surely Sturridge has has plenty of time to prove himself and since the great Luis Surez left he has been on borrowed time. Sure he is a class player but how long do we have to wait.?
Having seen young Solanke in two preseason friendlies. I think this young boy has a lot of promise but couldn't run the line quiet yet.
We need a solid centre back and a holding midfielder and a world class striker. Love this site.

5.) 16 Jul 2017 13:39:05
It's all Chinese Whispers!




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11 Nov 2017 15:24:47
Ed 01, are there any stats about to compare Coutinho to last season. Key ones being distance covered and sprints made during his appearances. It's clear to see he's not playing as well but if it's due to a lack of effort then these stats will confirm that or put it to bed as him being out of form. Would also be interesting to see those stats for his Brazil appearances this season. Ps Keep up the great work with the site.


{Ed002's Note - Why would you see such stats as relevant. Is it better to have run further? Why? Would it be better to have the ball doing the work rather than running around?}

1.) 11 Nov 2017 15:47:31
Ed02 very true that. Was just wondering if there was much difference in his stats this season to last or even when he has played internationals.

{Ed002's Note - I am sure you can find his running about stats somewhere.}

2.) 11 Nov 2017 15:49:18
Coz they are trying very hard to make Coutinho a bad influence to the team ed02. What a stupid stat. Now I’ll give you a fact which is more important than anything else. 4 games played. 2 goals scored and 2 assists.
He wants to go so let’s make him a poor player! Brilliant logic!

3.) 11 Nov 2017 15:56:33
Ed 02 cheers for taking the time to reply. From them I'm taking that you think running about isn't important in football then 👍.

{Ed002's Note - Players can run about a bit to keep warm in the winter. I don't see anything wrong with that.}

4.) 11 Nov 2017 16:13:42
Haha Ed02. Harry I'm not trying to scapegoat anything on Coutinho. I was actually really interested to know. If it turns out he is still breaking a gut then that would actually stop fans scapegoating him. I think a players fitness levels and running stats are extremely important to the modern day manager. I can't think of a player who very rarely runs at a top club.

5.) 11 Nov 2017 16:47:27
Imo we put too much emphasis on physical stats. Yes, being fit enough to last an entire game is important, but it can't be to the detriment of players that possess greater technique.

6.) 11 Nov 2017 16:52:11
I do understand why you want to know the stats Jayden mate I get what your saying (I don't know them but would indeed be interesting) but stats aside, he's not been good enough, and Harry it isn't because he's leaving why I'm saying this, it's because it's true, if you can't see that then I just don't know. His heart isn't in it and hasn't been since the summer, he wanted out and he has spat his dummy out because he didn't get it his own way, keep defending him all you want, truth is, he's not playing well for us and he will soon be history to which I say thank god going on his behaviour since the summer, we don't need players disrupting the team no matter how good they are. All he's managed to do the past couple of months is prove to us we don't need him, time to cash in on him.

7.) 11 Nov 2017 17:27:10
Wait till January if you wanna see him run, he will be running all the way to Barcelona 🏃.

8.) 11 Nov 2017 17:38:22

Nothing to do with stats! If he wasn’t forcing a move in the summer and had a terrible start to this season! None would have uttered a word against him! Let’s be very very honest!
All of a sudden people brining up his running stats. Really? Couts was never famous for his hard work on the pitch. It was always about goals, chances created and ability to create magic.

I wish the manager listened to you in the summer and sold him when the money was there for taking rather than the abuse and mocking he is receiving now on his ABILITY!

I wish to god he comes back and score a brace against Southampton on Saturday!

9.) 11 Nov 2017 17:51:38
Harry you are trying to make something out of my initial question that isn't there Mate. I'm not trying to bring up his running stats to mock him. It was a general question to compare him to last season. I like Coutinho and want him to stay but I know that it's going to be sooner rather than later that he goes. His game isn't based on running I agree but if last season for example he was averaging 8km a game and this season he has dropped significantly then that picture paints a thousand words. If it's simialr then perhaps that will give the doubters food for thought. At least my question has given us something to debate about I suppose in this international window.

10.) 11 Nov 2017 19:05:49
I know of a player who runs a lot. He runs from the hips. All day long and that's it.

11.) 11 Nov 2017 19:12:41
Harry, no one is making Cou look like a bad player. He is doing a bang up job of doing that on his own. To me, stats are worthless esp. on this issue. We all have our eyes to see that he was useless vs Burnley and nonexistent vs Spurs as we, might have well have been playing with 10 men in that game as he lost the ball so many times I stopped counting. I wanted Cou to stay as well cos I thought he would do a Suarez and knuckle down at LFC alas, it did not happened. Worse, the fact that Suarez conducted himself more professionally than Cou is doing is damning indictment on him and to those shamelessly supporting him

Remember that Klopp was fed up with Cou near the end of the TW and wanted rid to get Lemar BUT we could not get a replacement so him tanking games or not giving his best is not that surprising. Cou seems to be downing tools and Ed01 (who has been a Cou fan since he arrived) has said that he wants to go and is showing it by not giving his best. If he comes back and scores vs Saints, who cares? It is his job to do his best when he gets on the pitch. What does he want for that, a cookie? Nonsense. Stop defending him cos it is embarrassing.

12.) 11 Nov 2017 19:38:11
Exactly loris. Ed01 started this!

13.) 11 Nov 2017 20:05:06
And why should I listen to you loris lol. Stop defending him really? You have a reason to hate him! I don’t care nor I am getting into your thoughts. I have my own reason to back him till he is out from the club. You don’t need to impose me! Some of your logic is ridiculous. You don’t care if he scores a brace on Saturday! Why do you jump from your seat when Migs let one in then?
It’s embarassing coz I don’t agree with your stupid thinking lol!

14.) 11 Nov 2017 22:17:23
I hate Cou? You really think I take players that seriously. I have no reason to hate anyone on this planet. You have a reason to back him till he leaves. But your pathetic logic falls flat as he does not wanna play for us anymore and he is literally tanking games and not giving his best. That may be okay for you BUT the sane disagree. He is a liability and a distraction and a nuisance, per Ed01's info.

Yes, I don't care if he scores a brace vs Saints cos it won't change a thing cos his attitude sucks. What changed after he scored and assisted vs LC or scored vs Newcastle? NOTHING. He followed that up by tanking the Spurs game. If that is who you choose to back then that personal problem for you. The rest of us disagree and again, the fact that Suarez acted more professionally than Cou did by NEVER tanking games, is a scathing indictment on him and those who shamelessly defend him like you. As for Migs, here's a thing for you: Cou is a nuisance and Migs is crap. Both things can be right at the same time.

15.) 11 Nov 2017 23:55:24
So many exclamation marks.



04 Nov 2017 22:03:56
This may come as a massive surprise to everyone but
Shot conversion rate this season:
Ronaldo 10%
Kane 14%
Messi 19%
Dybala 21%
Neymar 28%
Salah 29%.


1.) 04 Nov 2017 22:17:30
Very good, doesn't surprise me going on his form though, he's unreal that lad, if he carries on like that we're laughing.

2.) 04 Nov 2017 23:16:46
Thought he had to have a million chances to score? Lol.

3.) 05 Nov 2017 04:41:45
What you are posting are FAKE STATS. Salah has scored 7 goals from 36 shots in pl and 4 from 21 in CL. Now I am no PhD in maths but that doesn't come to 29% however you may try.

4.) 05 Nov 2017 08:26:00
Oh dear, a United fan on the Liverpool page trying to give you a maths lesson Jayden.

Why don’t you ask him what the percentages are in regards to :

Goals V Pounds spent - Salah V Lukaku


{Ed025's Note - thats moving the goal posts drogie, the guy raised a valid point..

5.) 05 Nov 2017 08:35:16
Biggest stat that cannot be disputed. Salah scores goals. End of story!

6.) 05 Nov 2017 08:37:15
Moyes seems as you are the man on TRUE STATS then. Any chance in enlightening us on how many buses does Moaninho park a game is it 1 or 2.

7.) 05 Nov 2017 08:52:39
Actually his shots to goal ratio is 21 % so Mr. moyes here is right, it doesn't matter though, he is improving his finishing and is the kind of player who has massive determination to be the best and improve all the time.

8.) 05 Nov 2017 09:41:20
Drogie and Jayden you want nos how's 2nd vs 6th or gd of 17 vs 4. Also you may or may not like the bus parking but it makes sure you don't get smashed 4-1 or 5-0.

9.) 05 Nov 2017 10:30:25
Haha nice Moyes. When is your trophy presentation then. As I didn't realise they handed out trophies for 2nd place in Nov. I always assumed the league finished in may. Another stat I was wrong on obviously 😉.

10.) 05 Nov 2017 08:35:21
United under Ferguson moved the goal posts most weeks Ed25, he should be used to it!

I’m raising a valid point too, asking a very valid question

{Ed025's Note - im not saying that your not drogie, just that it has sod all to do with the original question mate..

11.) 05 Nov 2017 09:10:13
and good luck vs Watford today ed025!

{Ed025's Note - thanks KIAK, i suspect we might need it mate..

12.) 05 Nov 2017 11:12:24
yeah man, watford are dangerous!

13.) 05 Nov 2017 13:44:14
Jayden we had 3 last 2 seasons how many has klopp won in 2years?

14.) 05 Nov 2017 21:30:26
Shock at the previously silent United fans piping up again this season. “Sing when you’re winning” springs to mind.



16 Oct 2017 22:49:33
I know fans are saying we are currently going through a bad patch this season but I think it goes back further than that. I may be wrong with my maths but I have just checked back and in 2017 we have played 27 league games. Won 12, drawn 10 and lost 5. That's not including the cup defeat to wolves and 2 league cup defeats to saints. So that makes it 8 losses in 30. This isn't me trying to be negative but the only stat that counts is a result and it's all here for everyone to see.


1.) 17 Oct 2017 05:45:49
Love how I have 4 thumbs down but not a single argument against the post. This is not me calling for Klopps head as I like the bloke, I believe we will again compete for 4th at best, we again will not come close to a title challenge, our defence and keeper will continue to leak goals and the midfield will always play safe. Our saving grace is our front 3 and Coutinho when they are on form. Fans say we will improve and I am merely suggesting that this up and down form of ours goeas beyond just our 13 games so far this season.

2.) 17 Oct 2017 05:50:41
Also I see how fans are quick to mention how after our 0-0 draw we are now only 2 points behind 4th place. But no one has mentioned how we are 2 points further away from Spurs and City. When did we as LFC fans start to settle for 2nd best (or in our case 4th best) .

{Ed001's Note - it is not about settling though is it? It is about giving it time to make steps forward, rather than expecting one huge leap forward immediately.

By the way, you say our form has been poor for a while, but we kept 5 clean sheets in our last six and won 4 of those. Not sure when 4 wins and a draw from six games became poor form?}

3.) 17 Oct 2017 06:16:19
We are currently sitting on 8th and by Sunday evening we could sit on 10th or 11th. I guess that also would be considered as positivity! We can't beat the ninnod coz they sit deep! We also can’t beat the biggies coz we waste our chances! Draws won’t be enough to secure 4th place and anything else is unacceptable!

{Ed001's Note - ninnod? Isn't that a Malayalam word? If so what does it mean?}

4.) 17 Oct 2017 06:22:01
Forgive me if I'm wrong but our last 6 games have included a draw with United, draw with Newcastle, draw with Spartak, draw with Seville, win to Leicester, loss to Leicester in the cup, think a draw with Burnley and a loss to man city.
Very few clean sheets in there and terrible form.

{Ed001's Note - I was referring to last season, as he was talking about how our form had lasted longer than this season. Apologies I should have pointed that out.}

5.) 17 Oct 2017 06:52:08
Ed001 I see what your saying mate and if we could maintain that form over 38 games then we would be challenging for titles, However on the 7th game we conceded 3 against Watford and have continued to dip in form this season. We do not seem to have fixed last season (s) problems. Out of our back 5 we have replaced the right back (due to injury? ) and have changed the problem at left back with the previous 2 seasons left back problem. Our midfield 3 although have goood and bad games seem to be first choice regardless and Firminho although a top player is not a top finisher. Yes we scored lots of goals last season in a number of games we also missed bundles of chances in every game which has rolled into this season. 100% agree with step forwards and giving it time but for me the only improvement we made in the summer was we added more pace in Salah to the front 3. And have ignored the major one of back 4 and keeper. Just my thoughts though Ed001. Interested to hear yours.

{Ed001's Note - how have we ignored the major one when we signed a left back, changed the right back and spent all summer chasing a centre back?? That is nonsense. We haven't solved the major one, clearly, but not because it was ignored, but because we couldn't get the right players.

The big issue is the keeper one though, I have no idea why Klopp keeps messing this about. Every man and his dog knows he wants rid of Mignolet. Every man and his dog knows Mignolet is nowhere near good enough. So drop him ffs!!!!

By the way, the arrival of Salah was extremely important as our record last season when Mane was out was appalling. That was the biggest issue of all that had to be addressed statistically speaking, which is what the club based its thinking on. Though you know what I think of stats being used on their own, I can understand why that was dealt with first.}

6.) 17 Oct 2017 06:32:05
OOopsss. My bad. Yea! I got many friends here as well! Typo error mate. It means “ To you “ I guess you see many in Dubai and Middle East! Don’t uou? I know a few words 😆😆😆!

7.) 17 Oct 2017 07:06:27
I love the way some have already written off the Spuds match! I for one think we're going to win a tight game against them.
Pre-Christmas is all about staying in touch with the leaders. We're a bit behind at the moment but City will slip up soon. We've played Arsenal, Man Utd and Man City already. We're on the brink of a good run IMO. 👍.

8.) 17 Oct 2017 07:37:16
Agree Ron people should not be writing the Spurs match off but again on the other hand people seem quick enough to write City off and the other teams saying they will slip up soon. There is no guarantee we will improve. In fact things could even get worse or stay the same where we are very much up and down, performance and result wise.

9.) 17 Oct 2017 07:35:15
Yes we did sign a left back in the summer mate but he cannot get into the match day squad let alone the team at the current moment. Agree Every man and his dog can see Mignolet needs to be dropped but with the exception of Klopp. We didn't get our centre back target and people always ask to name other centre backs who we could have signed. Well put it this way if I was paid 7 mill a year and I wasn't working 6-1800 every day for 5 days a week then I would certainly come up with more than 1 target. Salah is a terrific signing Ed and I think he will turn out to be a top player for us.

{Ed001's Note - he can't get into the team because he was the wrong signing, but that should warn people of the dangers of just signing for the sake of signing. You say you could come up with more than 1 target for centre back but there are not a lot out there. Every club is in the same situation of needing one, Man Utd spent fairly big on one who is in the same situation as Robertson, for instance. City failed to get one. Only Chelsea managed to sign one in Rudiger and again he can't get in their first choice team.

My worry is the recruitment overall, our scouts seem unable to find any players who are actually good defensively. I wonder if there is an over reliance on stats to identify a role that is particularly difficult to identify that way. If they are watching these players and still think VVD and Robertson were the right players to sign, despite neither being of much use at all defensively, then there is a serious problem there!}

10.) 17 Oct 2017 08:27:00
Ed, all your response have been spot on. If Robbo can't get into the team then that is not Klopp's fault if he can't beat out Moreno, is it? Also, the scouting is also a big problem esp. regarding CB's. People talk about there being at least one CB out there we could sign and Ed has alluded to how other big clubs who either wanted to sign stop gaps or did sign them and cannot get into their first 11's. This shows a chronic problem either in scouting or recruitment which may be infesting teams as a whole. Are they just using other criteria (pass accuracy, good on the ball, can pass out the back, can bring the ball out etc) to rate CB's now (which is pathetic) or are they simply not doing their jobs? A bit of both in my view.

As for the form, one man's critic is another man's optimism. There is nothing poor about losing 5 measly league games in 25 or 26 games. Nothing at all. Last season, Utd went on a 25 game unbeaten streak and 15 of them were draws. Where did that get them? Oh that's right, 6th in the PL and comfortably behind us who to Jayden, have been in poor form since late last season yet we finished ahead of them. Stats are meaningless. End of story.

11.) 17 Oct 2017 08:42:44
Bingo i don't care about Utd mate and how many draws they had. They have no reflection on our results or performances. But since you brought them into it Didn't Utd win 2 trophies and automatically qualify for CL group stage ( and something like 18 trophies in last 7 years compared to our 1) But I suppose finishing 4th trophyless is the new 1st for LFC.

12.) 17 Oct 2017 08:59:08
UTD are doing decent in CL and league this season and they have a realistic chance to win league cup and FA cup at a minimum. While we are dumped out form League cup. CL won’t be happening and with the rate we are drawing games League is becoming another “ Next year is our year “ FA Cup is the only realistic trophy we could aim for!

{Ed001's Note - so we are in the position United were in before they spent 200m to change it then? A season away from challenging?}

13.) 17 Oct 2017 09:06:48
Haha good reply Ed. Unfortunately mate we have been a season away from challenging for 25 of the last 27 years.

{Ed001's Note - I know mate, I did very much have my tongue firmly in my cheek there!}

14.) 17 Oct 2017 09:34:12
In simple terms, Klopp’s only fault is buying Robertson who he don’t rate one bit!

15.) 17 Oct 2017 09:52:22
Stop yelling, Harry. How do you know Klopp does not rate Robbo? Did he tell you that or did you make that up like all the other crap you made up like you saying Moreno was not sold to Napoli os Klopps likes him whereas that was not true?

16.) 17 Oct 2017 09:58:41
Jayden, you don't care about other teams YET you bring them up as well. What Utd won is of no significance to me cos like it or not, they were poor in the league and finished behind us comfortably after spending double what we spent in the TW. Fact. They did win two trophies, the same ones they slated us for winning under Houllier and even Mou called the trophies, second or third rate and would be embarrassed to win them YET here we are. I know, his hypocrisy should be ignored BUT it's still funny.

As for trophies, it depends. Would you take an FA Cup over a CL place? I would not esp. in our position cos CL footie is way important in our position cos we are rebuilding under Klopp. Ideally, I'll take both a Cup and a CL place BUT that may or may not happen. The PL is our bread and butter and we stick to that first while chasing other trophies like (maybe the CL) and the FA Cup. Arsenal won the FA Cup BUT believe me, Wenger would swap it for the CL any day.

17.) 17 Oct 2017 10:08:20
Read above Bingo. Ed01’s reply. 🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️. How could you miss his replies mate 🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️.

18.) 17 Oct 2017 10:20:39
Bingo it was you who mentioned Utd mate. My initial post was my concerns for our up and down form in 2017. I agree the Fa and league cup hold less value these days than top 4. The Europa now has the carrot of CL qualification for the winners. If we were getting top 4 every season and not winning trophies then I would see your point. Unfortunately we have been doing neither.

19.) 17 Oct 2017 12:26:18
Fair enough, Jayden. I used United's unbeaten streak to make a bigger point on how unbeaten streaks can be a misnomer for how a team will do or not do. That part is valid, IMO.

As for your response, That is what Klopp is trying to change as he said so immediately after we smashed Boro and got a shot at CL footie. We need to establish ourselves first as a regular in the CL while at the same time, trying to win trophies cos you can always walk and chew gum at the same time.

We were nowhere near getting to a final under BR yet Klopp did that twice (including a European final) in the first 8 months. We may not have won and that is disappointing BUT That to me, gives hope that we can be in a position to win trophies.

N btw, not saying that you are saying this specifically BUT us not winning anything predates Klopp (Rafa won nothing in his final 4 seasons and BR won nothing in his whole 3 plus years here) so let us not act as if we stopped winning things as soon as he arrived as that is not true. We have also made top 4 only once since '09 before Klopp arrived so that is not his fault either. We are rebuilding right now and it will be a roller coaster ride with bumps in the road so to me, we have to stick with the team and hope they can come out of this sticky patch. Enjoyed the debate, Jayden. Keep them coming, my friend. YNWA!

20.) 17 Oct 2017 16:16:51
Bingo just to clarify mate I am not a Klopp out fan. I like the guy and hope he is the man that changes our success. Same to you always enjoy reading other people's opinions. YNWA.

21.) 17 Oct 2017 18:23:15
Jayden, I know you are not a Klopp out guy and I apologize if my last post suggested that as that was not my intention. I was just making a general point for those who I think, want to implicitly blame all our ills as a club for the past 27 years on Klopp's shoulders. I know you want Klopp to succeed. Majority of our fans do.

Like you, I am frustrated at the fact that our results have not been good enough even tho, we have done more than enough in some games to win them. Klopp is the best we could have hoped for when BR was fired cos we were in dire straits and we need to trust him and support him during his worst of times.

He is not perfect and will make mistakes BUT his heart is in the right place and since we don't have 300m to drop every summer on players, the way he built his BVB teams is what he is trying to do here. YNWA, my friend!

22.) 17 Oct 2017 19:14:25
Hopefully tonight is the night Bingo for Klopp to start our success. A win away from home in Europe could be the little confident boost we need.



15 Oct 2017 10:49:08
I noticed Salah got some stick again yesterday (not for the first time) for not finishing chances ( even though he was our most creative player) yet Firminho is always defended for his finishing because of what else he brings to the team even though he is our striker. Similar to Hendo he is deemed essential to the team for what he brings but for me he does exactly what Allen used to do and Allen was more or less scape goated out of the club. As fans we seem to move the goal posts on what is deemed a good/ bad performance from 1 player to the next.


{Ed001's Note - the same as Allen? Have you ever watched the two of them play? They are nothing alike. That is the most absurd comment I have ever seen on here.}

1.) 15 Oct 2017 11:14:24
How exactly are they even remotely similar? That comment is daft mate Ed001 is totally correct, they are nowhere near the same.

2.) 15 Oct 2017 11:15:57
lol I'll take that as a compliment Ed 01 as I've seen some absurd comments on here mate. For me though I stand by the comment. Hendo offers more closing down wise but apart from that 98% of the time both their passing range is 5-8 yards sidewards or backwards.

{Ed001's Note - what on earth? You never even mentioned Henderson. What are you on about?}

3.) 15 Oct 2017 11:26:24
Apologies I'm watching my son play rugby so rushed the initial comment so doesn't read great. I meant to compare Salah and Firminho for the crtitcism they receive for finishing and Hendo and Allen.

4.) 15 Oct 2017 11:23:49
Ed 01 my initial comment I was comparing Henderson (Hendo) to Allen. Not Firminho. Reading my comment back I can see where I have caused confusion. My bad English I apologise. I compared Firminho and Salah on finishing.

{Ed001's Note - ahhh now I understand. Ok but again I disagree, Allen was a headless chicken who did not understand how to press, Hendo does press. The problem is that the midfield 3 have no understanding and all just rush out to press the same usually.}

5.) 15 Oct 2017 11:42:58
I often wonder why we expect Firmino to score as many goals as a striker when he is clearly not a striker and never has been. If Klopp played Mignolet up front (don't rule it out) would we expect him to get as many goals as Rush or Fowler?

6.) 15 Oct 2017 11:47:45
No worries Ed 01 perhaps I'm being too harsh on Hendo and I do actually think Hendo is a better player than Allen and agree on the pressing. Just think when Allen had a similar pass percentage to Hendo (for same range of passes) he was lambasted and Hendo is held in high esteem. Keep up the great work on the site mate 👍.

{Ed001's Note - Hendo is not held in high esteem though, he gets pelters all the time. It is just some people will defend Hendo because he does show more at times, while Allen never offered a thing, bar huff and puff in the wrong areas.}

7.) 15 Oct 2017 12:40:19
Perhaps I am being a little bit too harsh on Hendo then Ed 001. Cheers for the replies and your views.

{Ed001's Note - I just wish he would impose himself more on games, then there would be no debate. Unfortunately he is not playing in a position that gives him a chance to really settle any argument, it is far too limited a role and the most important things it entails cannot really be seen unless you only watch him all game.

Cheers for the chat mate.}

8.) 15 Oct 2017 14:20:51
Henderson will be replaced next summer by a proper holding midfielder ( let’s hope its Julian Weigl ) while Wijnaldum is replaced by Kieta!
Don’t worry lads mediocrity will end by this season! Proper midfield on its way!

9.) 15 Oct 2017 20:36:46
If Migs played up front we'd have to tell him to aim for the corner flags.



14 Oct 2017 18:01:58
Football is a funny old game. For us it was a decent performance but a bad result and for Utd it was a bad performance and a decent result. We're now 9 points off top spot so Spurs next is a must win.


{Ed025's Note - they are all must win to keep up with city jayden..

1.) 14 Oct 2017 18:19:43
Agree Ed 025. At the moment it would need us to win every game and City to lose 3 or draw 5 just to draw level on points or go 1 point ahead .

{Ed025's Note - they look very strong jayden and are a joy to watch mate..

2.) 14 Oct 2017 18:29:11
Jose Mourninho plans for the season and why they would be inside top 2 end of the season. Today’s results means nothing to him as he has already made up the points elsewhere. There is a return leg to this fixture and if UTD win that they will have made 4 points from 2 games! At home it’s always DROPPED POINTS! 1 point today 1 point against Spurs lol, same old story, Race for top 4 after all the money spent and improvements made!

Good luck Liverpool, We got to beat Maribor else our champions league campaigns gets over by Tuesday!

3.) 14 Oct 2017 18:36:39
Agree Ed 25 as much as I love my club it doesn't stop me watching other teams play and being honest. I find it amazing how some fans refuse to say a negative word about anything LFC yet will throw criticism at other clubs. You only have to look at trophy cabinets the last 10 years and ours is lacking way behind the other so called big teams ( Spurs the exception) in England.

{Ed025's Note - yeah mate you really need a trophy...and soon..

4.) 14 Oct 2017 19:17:39
When a team that's basically as good or better than you player for player turns up wanting a draw and with little intention of getting involved in a football match, it's hard to beat them. If Klopp had sacrificed Wijnaldum or Can after 60 minutes for Oxlade-Chamberlain or Sturridge and United had nicked one on the counter, we'd all be complaining about how Klopp has no tactical nous and fell into Mourinho's trap by getting too ambitious when he had control of the game.

Personally I'd have risked it had I been the manager, but if I was the manager, we'd probably have none of our current front 3, so it's not like I actually know better than Klopp, is it? And, y'know, we still created two clear cut chances that unfortunately fell to Matip and Can.

I'm not hammering Klopp or the players for this.

5.) 14 Oct 2017 19:29:05
Still level on points with 4th despite our best player Mane missing 4 games and Coutinho not turning up at the start of the season.
We'll have a good run sooner or later 🤝.

6.) 14 Oct 2017 19:34:58
Agree Ron level on points with 4th is good. But aren't we meant to be challenging for the title this season.

7.) 14 Oct 2017 20:00:35
Missed Watford slipping in to 4th there, oh well, only 2 points behind them 😎.

8.) 14 Oct 2017 20:07:12
I thought the team did really well today and Klopp got it spot on. Although we didn't win we looked more of a unit. United hardly got a sniff and Lovren pretty much took Lukaku out of the game bar one chance. It wasnt the most exciting game but this is what Mourinho does. Im more than happy with the performance.

{Ed025's Note - nah irish, you have to win them games mate when you have them on the back foot for so long...well if you want to challenge anyway..

9.) 14 Oct 2017 20:09:56
You know what a trophy is Ed25?

{Ed025's Note - i have a very good memory ace..

10.) 14 Oct 2017 20:15:01
We have lost once this season to the best team in the league having gone down to 10 men.
I said top 4 and a decent Champions League run at the beginning of the season and I still think that is realistic. Not many pundits gave us chance of top 4 at the start of the season, yet they want the manager sacked after 8 games. I think we will comfortably get top 4.We play attacking football and it was refreshing not to see us go hung Ho and leave gaps while chasing the win.

{Ed025's Note - i dont know about comfortably tooshy, but in the mix mate..

11.) 14 Oct 2017 20:24:56
The issue being Ed25 is that Liverpool usually have most teams on the back foot only to be hit by a sucker punch. I would think that having a more measured approach over the season would bring better results instead of our usual 2 at the back and 8 up front style of play.

12.) 14 Oct 2017 20:26:07
2 points from 2nd will do me for now, I'm not too fussed just yet, could be worse, we just need them to start banging in goals and we'll be laughing.

13.) 14 Oct 2017 20:41:44
4th i meant sorry.

14.) 14 Oct 2017 22:15:25
Harry, you said Mou plans for the season. You mean like he did last season when he played the same tactics at Anfield and did not win the PL, did not qualify for the CL via the PL and finished well below us? Come of it, man. Before the game, NO ONE gave us a chance for a point and after the game, we clearly should have won the game in spite of him playing stone age football (his words, not mine) . If Mou wants to play the way he is playing then that is his choice. He should then not be surprised when people take digs at him for being a waster of talent. We'll take the point and move on. Chelsea and Arsenal lost and we play Spurs next (who are 4 points ahead of us) . Up the Pool!




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12 Nov 2017 10:49:17
Corleone because If they were the standard of the keepers named above they would have given Klopp no other choice but to play them and as he's not playing them there would be managers beating down our doors to sign them. This is not me saying their bad keepers but saying they are nowhere near the level of the 4 and I'd bet my mortgage on that.




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12 Nov 2017 09:56:57
Of course we need a keeper. Klopp doesn't want to play Karius or Ward in the premier league. If he did then they would be playing it's as simple as that. It's not to protect Karius as Mignolet gets pelters every week. How important is a keeper to a team that wants to challenge. Well look at De Gea, Courtouis, Cech and Lloris, they are all top class keepers or better and are easily in the top 10 keepers in the world. City had Bravo in net last season and they were a shambles. Look at them now this season after replacing him. As much as I would like Ward and Karius to work it they are nowhere near the standard of the 4 named above. The less said on Mignolet the better.




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11 Nov 2017 16:59:13
Silly question. How do you gain access to the old sharkpods? I've tried the search engine but for me it just brings up comments that has the word sharkpod in there.


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03 Nov 2017 19:10:03
We need to tell Barcelona our price and tell them to only contact the club when they are willing to meet it. With Coutinho hardly hitting form and looking like he's going through the motions these over occurring injuries could be playing right into Barca's hands where they will most likely try and underbid. Let's hope we do not get our pants pulled down over this deal.


{Ed001's Note - just get rid. Should have got rid in the summer it has caused nothing but disruption to our season to hold on to him.}



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03 Nov 2017 16:49:57
Good news to have Mane fit but let's hope it doesn't bite us in the arse.


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14 Nov 2017 05:51:45
So if our season is back on track what will we need for it to be deemed a success come the end of it. For me it has to be a minimum of 4th and a trophy. The most likely trophy being FA cup. If we won the CL then that's a whole different kind of success. Is it too late for a title challenge already this season?




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12 Nov 2017 10:51:58
On the other hand Irish if you were ringing in sick when there is nothing wrong they would sack you. Not pay you 150k a week.




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12 Nov 2017 10:01:45
I've not seen one comment questioning Coutinho's ability. It's his integrity than is under scrutiny. If him and Can came out today and declared their future to the club then I for one would be delighted. You cannot challenge if you sell your best players but You can also not challenge if your best players feign injury or do not want to be at the club.




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11 Nov 2017 17:51:38
Harry you are trying to make something out of my initial question that isn't there Mate. I'm not trying to bring up his running stats to mock him. It was a general question to compare him to last season. I like Coutinho and want him to stay but I know that it's going to be sooner rather than later that he goes. His game isn't based on running I agree but if last season for example he was averaging 8km a game and this season he has dropped significantly then that picture paints a thousand words. If it's simialr then perhaps that will give the doubters food for thought. At least my question has given us something to debate about I suppose in this international window.




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11 Nov 2017 16:13:42
Haha Ed02. Harry I'm not trying to scapegoat anything on Coutinho. I was actually really interested to know. If it turns out he is still breaking a gut then that would actually stop fans scapegoating him. I think a players fitness levels and running stats are extremely important to the modern day manager. I can't think of a player who very rarely runs at a top club.