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Best team moment: Liverpool winning the Uefa Cup against Alaves

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16 Aug 2019 11:22:23
Im at work but a mate just told me Adrian is not fit to play on Saturday and our new keep Andy L is going to play instead please tell me he is pulling my leg Ed001.

Johncrow Junior

{Ed001's Note - I have not heard of any injury to Adrian.}

1.) 16 Aug 2019 11:53:00
He injured his ankle during the after match celebrations, and is indeed a doubt for tomorrow.

2.) 16 Aug 2019 12:33:18
Adrian was injured by a fan who was being chased by security. He slipped and 2 footed Adrian. Doubtful for tomorrow.

Looks like we won't see Keita until after the international break.

{Ed025's Note - typical..

3.) 16 Aug 2019 12:34:05
a fan ran onto the field and hit his ankle while sliding. Video is on the Echo.

4.) 16 Aug 2019 12:43:52
That’s correct, fan ran on and slipped into Adrián. His ankle is swollen, might make it tomorrow.

{Ed025's Note - or...typical liverpool drunken thug flouts security by invading the pitch and injures goalkeeper..

5.) 16 Aug 2019 13:41:28
The fan who ran on and 2 footed him had a Ed025 T shirt on.

{Ed025's Note - not guilty JK....i cant run that far mate..

6.) 16 Aug 2019 14:31:20
You could play in Everton’s midfield then Ed025. They don’t run that far either mate.

{Ed025's Note - your not far wrong there JK..

7.) 16 Aug 2019 18:04:44
Those ed25 fans are a disgrace.

{Ed025's Note - if they thought it was me shents...they might arrest george clooney, im his doppleganger mate.. :)

8.) 16 Aug 2019 18:28:40
It was actually a Southampton fan.

{Ed025's Note - its a wonder that pep has not been cited, he usually gets it in the neck on these pages amerigo..

9.) 16 Aug 2019 18:50:45
Adrian will play with a slight booboo to his ankle no need to panic.



24 Apr 2019 18:19:11
Matip getting a new deal?
that would be a very brave one from Klopp if true.

Johncrow Junior

1.) 24 Apr 2019 19:05:46
I don't see why, honestly don't know why he gets half the stick he does. He's perfect for what he is, a back up centre half to the main pairing which, when Gomez is fit is Joe and Virgil. I also think we as Liverpool fans compare our other centre halves to Van Dijk now which is unfair as he's the best defender i've ever seen in the Premier League. Matip would comfortably get into the likes of Man U's and Arsenals first 11's and he's never kicked off when out of the side. Obviously we'd all like a De Ligt or a Alderweireld buts its very hard and unrealistic to expect to have four world class centre halves at 1 club.

2.) 24 Apr 2019 19:15:23
Not old ”give them a new deal just prior to punting them around” scam?

I like the kid but wouldn't be confident starting a season with him as 3rd choice CB behind JG and VVD.

3.) 24 Apr 2019 19:22:48
agreed little naby. can't have 4 1st choice CBs and Matip has done a job for us no doubt.

4.) 24 Apr 2019 19:32:55
Unnecessary hate, on the verge of trolling. We are on our biggest winning streak since Klopp took over and he’s started every game bar one. The Hendo bashers obviously have a new target. I agree he’s better than any of united and Arsenal’s defenders. Definitely an excellent third choice cb.

5.) 24 Apr 2019 20:02:20
Lerchy, I'm a HUGE Hendo lover and I think Matip is not good enuff for us long term.

6.) 24 Apr 2019 21:29:18
But he hasn’t put a foot wrong since January? Who would you replace him with? Realistically not fm.

7.) 24 Apr 2019 22:06:08
I don’t rate Matip and believe he is someone we can improve upon.

Where are the fantastic centre backs who will be 3rd choice? I doubt they’re out there and it is responsible to protect the squad in this way.

8.) 24 Apr 2019 22:44:11
Well said Ron.

9.) 24 Apr 2019 23:06:46
Matip is 3rd choice at centre half, and yes, he is not good enough for the 1st team, but I am happy enough for him to be a back up,
its Lovren who needs replacing, cos the man just can't stay fit, its a long hard season, and we don't need passengers if we want to stay as a top side,
we def need to keep on adding one or two class players, this will keep us at the top .

10.) 24 Apr 2019 23:12:50
he's perfect for us. unless he wanta to leavto be a regular starter then ok fair enough. but other than that as 3rd or 4th choice, he is experienced and steady enough.

11.) 24 Apr 2019 23:18:01
There are not many great centre backs in football anyway, Joel Matip has been a great back up in my opinion. As Ron said there are no fantastic centre backs happy to be third choice.
Even if Liverpool bought a so called top centre back, where would that leave Gomez.
Matip is not as terrible as he is made out and gets too much stick here. He has definitely made a positive contribution to the team so maybe he deserves a new contract as a backup defender.

12.) 24 Apr 2019 23:39:06
Ron, I rate Matip higher than you do but I agree 100% with the rest of your post. Well said.

13.) 24 Apr 2019 23:58:11
Maybe not longterm Redwolf but even having him as backup allows Jana-Hoever to learn his trade as back up to Trent at rightfull until he moves inside. What does it say to him if we keep buying big names to block his path because this kid could be our very own De Ligt. At the end of the day we have two world class centre halfs and two top end defenders in reserve. Show me a team in this league that's better stocked at centre half.

14.) 25 Apr 2019 01:51:01
Lerchy you say he hasn't put a foot wrong since January? How do you come up with that assessment? He's been exposed in the majority of matches. he so often gets dragged out of position and commits to challenge unnecessary tackles. If he gets a foot in everybody cheers and claps, but most of the time he shouldn't even be putting himself in scenarios,! You don't see virgil sprinting out to wide areas 50 yards from goal with little threat on just to make an unnecessary tackle, he often needlessly risks us being left wide open when he should focus on maintaining shape. You can see VVDs frustration with him many times during games.

15.) 25 Apr 2019 07:50:56
No axe to grind with Matip and believe he's a better backup than Lovren, but I really think Gomez needs to be back in the team asap as I think he'll be a better bet for these last 5/ 6 games we're about to play!

16.) 25 Apr 2019 07:56:02
All these experts who want Matip gone - are you really a better judge of player than Klopp?

17.) 25 Apr 2019 08:06:46
FlashTheRed. Not at all, just stating my personal opinion of him through watching him play. I don't have an axe to grind with him for no reason, he's just the one player who I really don't rate. And your point with klopp has no basis anywat. When all CB were fully fit and available he was the 4th choice clearly.

I just don't rate him personally, and I hate having to criticise any of our boys.

18.) 25 Apr 2019 09:57:43
If Matip is meant to be fourth choice then he is way ahead of Klavan before him, and marginally behind Lovren, if at all.

19.) 25 Apr 2019 10:05:11
Matip was getting brickbats in the first half of the season because he was clearly playing poorly. His second half has been a clear improvement, and as good as the first year he joined. So it's all relative to player form and performance, as it should be.

20.) 25 Apr 2019 13:15:32
I think he's a decent choice for a 3rd or 4th choice defender for Liverpool, but as I keep saying any time this topic arises, our 3rd and 4th choice CBs (in most people's eyes) are earning over £200k a week in total, and that's not sustainable, especially when you consider that big Virg will no doubt be after a rise, and Joe's wages are only going to go up as soon as he cements himself as a first choice.

Fair play to Matip, he's played his part in our fantastic season more than Lovren has, which probably puts him as 3rd choice, it's just the financials that I have an issue with.

21.) 25 Apr 2019 14:07:56
I think right now, going by improvement shown and fitness consistency, I'd be more inclined to let Lovren go and maybe get a younger CB (not world class, but decent) to compete with Matip for 3rd and 4th place.

Joe and Virgil are our clear top pairing. Someone who can compete with Matip (and potentially improve
a little) would be good. Lovren earns a big wage which might be a bit too much now for a 4th choice CB that's injured quite a bit.

I mean, he did well with Croatia and LFC getting to the WC and CL finals, but it might be time for him to move on now for his own good too if he's dropped to 4th choice.

22.) 25 Apr 2019 14:24:24
Matip's done great these past few weeks, Klopp got him for nothing and obviously rates him.

I'd rather we ca$hed in on World Cup Finalist Lovren and spent that money on a tried and tested as backup to Gomez and Matip (if we can find one) or promote one of the yutes. Looks like you can put anyone next to VVD and he'll play well.

Gotta trust in Klopp, Shirley?

23.) 25 Apr 2019 15:06:21
By far the biggest issue I have with Matip is he’s a big lad, very tall, but he seems scared of the ball in the air. He loses far too many challenges in the air but also, if a ball is going over the top, he let's it bounce behind him!
That is the number 1 cardinal sin for a central defender. Never, ever, EVER let the ball bounce behind you! Matip must have missed that basic principle. It’s easily rectified and to be fair it’s a good few months since I’ve seen him do it, but it used to happen almost every game.
Other than that infuriating trait, he’s as good a back up as we’ve had for a while and it makes sense to keep him around 👍.

24.) 25 Apr 2019 17:31:41
Look im not a big fan of matip personally, but he's wearing our red liverbird upon his chest and I'l always support and back him when he does so and he does try his best but his ability is limited and it frustrates me that some overlook his match performances as a whole. He's a very weak link and has got away with a lot of incidents which could easily have had many fans calling for his head.

I know this is ifs and buts. but in about 4 weeks there were 4 clear incidents which he was very fortunate to get away with. Against United the offside flag saved his blushes as he swiped a clearance with his wrong leg into our goal. It was correctly offside but matip didn't know that and defended the situation poorly.
In the same week he attempted the exact same clearance with his wrong leg against bayern. The ball hit Allison's chest fortunately, no one spoke of this ever again, he was at fault vs Southampton goal then.
Against spurs his rash decision to lunge desperately at Kane on halfway line directly led to sissoko going 1v1. If he slots that in which he should then the title dream was probably vanished then.

Now I'm not bashing the guy completely I'm just pointing out moments which could have cost us dearly, they haven't though so he's been excused from criticism. He has performed slightly better lately but is always vulnerable in any moment. It's also clear to see how Trent has struggled much more with matip beside him. I know it's all ifs and buts. but he does make many errors which go unnoticed by many. If we win silverware this season he's earned his medals and has played his part but if we want a CB who may need to slot in for months at a time in the future then I feel matip needs upgrading. Feels harsh saying this as we're in a purple patch but the fact remains he is 8 or 9 times out of ten our weakest performer and most vulnerable.

Just clarifying I'm not bashing the fella, he's just not the standard of defender we should settle for as competition in a world class defence.

25.) 25 Apr 2019 17:21:43
Isn't it time Masterson stepped up 20yrs old now.

Oh and don't call me Shirley.

Was that airplane or naked gun?

26.) 25 Apr 2019 17:26:26
This move surprised me, because I expected Lovren to be cover to Virgil and Gomez next season. I'm fine with Matip though. Like a backup QB in the NFL, the plan isn't to go into the season with him as your primary option, but you also don't want your season derailed because he has to play for a stretch of games because someone is injured. I like Lovren more, but it may be a better use of resources to sell Lovren (and his contract) and go with Matip. Lovren is too good to sit in long stretches too, so maybe it's just time to move on so he can go get more playing time elsewhere.

27.) 25 Apr 2019 18:29:18
He hasn't been offered a contract yet and there has just been a mention of talks opening. He may well have the ambition to ask for playing guarantees (a beast that the Eds have said is a key element of a players contract nowadays) and I can't imagine a huge financial increase so he may look for sureties elsewhere and turn down a bit part role.

28.) 25 Apr 2019 23:33:00
If im not mistaken we have conceded just 20 Goals this season, less than any other team in the PL. Some of you need to get a grip. Matip has been a part of that and if you look at the stats when he has played I think you will all find that he is a valuable member of the squad not on a huge wage either and bought for peanuts. As a player that will never be first choice he is more valuable than you think.

29.) 26 Apr 2019 13:23:25
I'm pretty sure he is on a huge wage.

30.) 26 Apr 2019 13:31:03
I doubt any of our centre backs will look to leave this summer, realistically its their best chance of a prem title, assuming we don't win it this year.

31.) 26 Apr 2019 18:19:17
I'd assume the contract talks will involve a pay cut. You have to remember that he's on higher wages than normal due to him being signed on a free.



06 Aug 2018 13:25:08
Just wanted to know if any of the eds had the latest info regarding clyne
Surely he can't be staying here for another season but if he is I will support him as per usual but really hope he gets a move somewhere else as he really hurts us attacking wise when he plays.
Decent enough player but I think our style of play and tactics don't suit his strengths.

Johncrow Junior

{Ed001's Note - there has been little interest in him due to his injuries last season.}

1.) 06 Aug 2018 13:49:23
A bit late now to get a good right back in, I don't see him going anywhere. As poor as he is offensively, he's pretty good defensively and we need that more than his attacking attributes.

2.) 06 Aug 2018 14:19:37
personally I see Clyne as 2nd choice RB this season with Gomez being an option for CB. Matip will likely spend a lot of time injured so I reckon they'll be enough games for Gomez at CB and Clyne is decent enough to play a few cup games at RB.

3.) 06 Aug 2018 18:28:19
I agree, I don’t think he’s that bad as a second choice, as long as his hearts in it. Worst comes to worst and he plays a few games, he’s experienced and hopefully can hold his own defencively.

4.) 06 Aug 2018 19:23:37
There's been nothing wrong with him defensively so far, just his fitness. If is heart isn't in it, he won't get game time. Simple as.

5.) 06 Aug 2018 21:40:34
I don’t think he’s good enough as a back up RB, Trent is still young and will need to be rested now and again, that means your going to need to have to rely on Clyne for several games a season, I don’t think I have ever seen him have a good game for us, he would be the weak link and opponents will exploit that.

6.) 06 Aug 2018 22:24:14
Exactly mikey, he's not good enough for this level of football, or even close imo. Defensively he is terrible, Trent is a young lad and is already 10 x the player Clyne is. I'd put Fabinho, Milner or Gomex before Clyne.

7.) 06 Aug 2018 22:34:03
To say Clyne has never had a good game for us is rubbish. Yes there are better attacking full backs out there but I believe he has a big part to play this season. Trent has made the position his own but there
Aren’t many right backs out there better as a back up.

If u think there are then name them. The likes of Walker and Valencia are hugely overrated. Azpilaqeta (excuse spelling) is prob the best about but no chance of getting him.

At the end of the day we need squad players as well as starters to be successful, they can’t all be world beaters.

8.) 06 Aug 2018 23:21:37
You can easily name several better right backs from Liverpool alone.

9.) 07 Aug 2018 06:04:49
I like Clyne. Between him and Trent we have RB sorted.

10.) 07 Aug 2018 06:45:53
Go ahead then Mikey. and remember, Fabinio wAs bought as a midfielder, Milner has proven himself in midfield and only played left back for one season due to necessity.

TAA and Gomez who will spend more time at centre back this year.


11.) 07 Aug 2018 07:34:27
if Clyne plays a bad game, we’ll just have to score more goals 🤔.

12.) 07 Aug 2018 08:11:14
How long has Clyne been here now? And Klopp too?
If Klopp thought Clyne wasn't up to the job, he'd be gone.
Ask Balotelli.

13.) 07 Aug 2018 08:21:45
Problem is FTR who would want Clyne? that's why we're stuck with him mate lol.

14.) 07 Aug 2018 10:09:12
Try saying we're stuck with him if Trent Arnold gets injured or suspended.

15.) 07 Aug 2018 11:39:13
I will do mate because he still won't get a game, Milner or Gomez will be before him maybe even Fabinho.

16.) 07 Aug 2018 12:56:44
Don't see that happening at all. Clyne still has a role to play this season, he'll play more at right back than any other player except TTA. Providing he's not injured of course.

17.) 08 Aug 2018 04:13:00
Clyne and Camacho have played at RB. I don't think the other players will play there. Gomez hasn't been used much there lately so I think Klopp has moved him to his favoured CB position.

TAA and Clyne as second choice. That's the RB position for this season in my view according to preseason. Klopp has been playing everyone where he'll use them during the season I believe.



27 Jun 2018 17:35:52
Bobby Duncan signed for 200k
Gerrards cousin I think.

Johncrow Junior

1.) 27 Jun 2018 18:08:29
Welcome to Liverpool lad. Anybody actually seen him play, if so any good?

2.) 27 Jun 2018 18:14:39
He's 17.

3.) 27 Jun 2018 20:57:57
Only seen highlights of one game against Liverpools kids, Salah. He scored but it was as much bad goal keeping as a great finish. Don't remember anything else as it was over a year ago.

4.) 27 Jun 2018 21:14:50
Did he play for man city.

5.) 27 Jun 2018 21:23:13
Remember the last left footed striker from Liverpool a one Robbie Fowler a. k. a god, step forward bobby Duncan maybe an omen, I hope so!

6.) 27 Jun 2018 21:28:33
Folks calm down he's 17.

7.) 27 Jun 2018 22:23:47
Hahahaha I am just playing he is a kid with a lot too prove and his whole career in front of him, you don't get called god for nothing and Fowler stepped immediately up too the plate, if the talent is there lucky us and hopefully he fulfills his potential.

8.) 28 Jun 2018 11:58:49
He’s got big boots to fill for being the next bobby in Liverpool.

9.) 28 Jun 2018 16:17:09
Only English player to score a hat trick against Brazil at any level. At U17 level I believe.

10.) 28 Jun 2018 16:32:42
Bobby played in the same school team as my lad. He’s a fantastic finisher, who can score any type of goal.

Saw him last year or so for City against Cackpool (Blackpool) and he’s motivated solely by scoring goals, which is an obvious must for a striker!

Reminds me a little of Aguero, similar stature, huge thighs and truly deadly if you give him a chance!

Going forward, I don’t know if he suits our current way of playing, but I guess it’s up to him.

Hope he forces his way through!

11.) 28 Jun 2018 18:06:05
We should have signed Ricky Bobby instead

‘If you ain’t first, you’re last! ’.

12.) 30 Jun 2018 14:06:10
“Bobby Duncan signed for 200k
Gerrards cousin I think”

Seems consistent. They both went for 2 first names instead of a proper surname 🙄.



28 May 2018 23:30:41
I know we have been linked very hard with Fekir but a little birdy tells me it is Malcolm we really want
not sure how this will turn out but it is malcolm more then Fekir according to the little birdy
just passing it on lads.

Johncrow Junior

{Ed0333's Note - over to Ed’s 002

1.) 28 May 2018 23:42:04
Malcolm is a talented player.

2.) 29 May 2018 03:45:08
Malcom is a winger, Fekir a CAM. It will be both if Malcom is the winger Klopp wants, not one of the two.
The UCl final was a clear indication we need another wide player in case Salah or Mane cannot play and Fekir is a CAM that will bring more creativity to our workmanlike midfield.
Fabinho, Keita and Fekir! BOOM! Bet Harry will be the happiest LFC fan alive if that happens.

3.) 29 May 2018 05:34:27
Wait so what's going to happen to Hender (backpass) en, Mil (not that boring) ner and Gini?

4.) 29 May 2018 06:12:07
Regardless if any wife player coming in, if Fekir does come it would signal to me Klopp switching to a very attacking 4231 starting formation next year, with Fekir behind Bobby. This would leave Fabinho, Hendo, Wiji, Milner, Ox, Lallana and Keita vying for the remaining midfield positions, although Ox and Lallana could be cover/ rotation for Fekir I suppose. All opinion and guess work of course, but if true I would imagine at least 2 will leave.

5.) 29 May 2018 06:55:42
I hope we haven’t resorted to signing wives now 😲.

6.) 29 May 2018 07:20:45
I'd prefer to see Malcolm in the Middle :)

{Ed025's Note - love it burkey..

7.) 29 May 2018 08:00:14
Speaking of wives. turns out, Fabinho's wife was the only ITK posting hints of their future over the weekend. There's a picture of her supporting Liverpool on Saturday night, doing the rounds ;)

8.) 29 May 2018 08:49:10
Thanks for the info Johncrow.

9.) 29 May 2018 09:18:50
you welcome Salah mate
it may turn out to be crap but thought I would share
albeit now Lemar seems to have come back into the frame as well according to Lequipe
So my little birdy looks like he may have given me duff info lol.

10.) 29 May 2018 12:50:19
Well for now we know we are looking for a coutinho replacement (Fekir, Lemar), cover wide (Dembele, Malcom, Lemar, Pulisic), Goalkeeper Cover (Navas, Butland) or First choice (Alisson) and Centerbacks cover (Tarkowski) .




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30 Nov 2019 11:54:49
Ed001 know your mega busy but please when your free could you do a comparison between the front there's we have now and the front three off Barnes rush and Beardsley
Would love to read that article.

Johncrow Junior

{Ed001's Note - I have added that to the list for comparisons for you.}

1.) 30 Nov 2019 11:58:42
Thank you sir I will look out for that everyday from now on.

{Ed001's Note - I wouldn't hold my breath! There are quite a few on the list ahead of that I am afraid mate.}

2.) 30 Nov 2019 12:21:29
ed001 what was best for Barnes rush and Beardsley or Barnes Aldridge and Beardsley I would go for Aldridge don't think Rush was as good when him came back from Juventus or it could have been his partnership with Kenny had gone.

{Ed001's Note - I was thinking that myself. It is a tough one, but Rush was incredible even after his return.}



29 Nov 2019 14:09:06
Been watching a bit of the old days with kenny in charge of the lads and im telling you if you think mane firminho and Salah were good please have a look at some of the goals that Barnes Beardsley and Rush scored together, we were truly blessed having these three upfront together.

Johncrow Junior

1.) 30 Nov 2019 05:03:55
You forgot to mention Ray Houghton.

2.) 30 Nov 2019 08:37:13
Very true Thunderbird he was class as well.

3.) 30 Nov 2019 01:14:50
True, true! ED001, I would love to see the player review of Barnes when you can. I do wonder how he would have compared amongst the great's of today. Cheers.

{Ed001's Note - ok mate, he will get one when I get round to his legends article.}

4.) 30 Nov 2019 09:09:40
Thanks Ed.

{Ed001's Note - welcome mate.}

5.) 30 Nov 2019 12:05:04
Barnes in his pomp for me was better then salah easily.

{Ed001's Note - Barnes was a truly special player to be fair, but he did play a totally different role. Barnes in the modern game, playing the Salah role, would probably notch unheard of numbers. There is no way defences could cope with him without being able to hack him down.}

6.) 30 Nov 2019 12:38:45
Salah is a better rapper though.



29 Nov 2019 13:56:49
Have to look for all positives always
fab gets a well earned rest
and we get a recharged player ready for title charge in the new year
Also now maybe Naby keita get the chance to step in or better yet ox does with hendo or gini stepping back to cover the fab role.

Johncrow Junior

1.) 29 Nov 2019 20:40:42
yes, and we have to keep that gap between us and the rest, we do have some home games so a win every game really is a must do . a chance for someone to shine,

2.) 29 Nov 2019 22:20:22
I'm not too worried about it, tbh. Our team is the most well-rounded and well-coached team in the PL as a group, IMO. We are better than City in terms of just sheer will and mental toughness. The things we have been able to rise above and live thru in the past two seasons and come out of it not just successfully BUT stronger has created an unbreakable bond among manager, players and fans that nothing seems to phase us anymore, IMO. We just seem to take it all on the chin and get on with the task at hand. We'll be oka, IMO cos the boys are raring to give their best. Up Da Pool!



07 Oct 2019 15:09:29
Matip named PFA player of the month and I for one am delighted the man has been class since last season and we are very lucky to have him as he compliments Virgil well.
Yes there are better defenders in world football, there are even better defenders at Anfield you could argue but imo right now I would not swap any for Matip alongside Virgil.

Johncrow Junior

1.) 07 Oct 2019 17:01:59
Excellent news and well deserved. Love it when a player gets stuck in, works harder and raises his level. Also commendable, as a team player, that not one sound came out of him for the (almost) year Gomez and Loven were playing ahead of him.

2.) 07 Oct 2019 20:04:50
Wow, really? Well done, JM. He has been immense for us for the last 7 months and he has continued to improve to the point of actually out-playing VVD (that takes some doing) in certain games. Once again, fair play to him.



15 Aug 2019 12:35:53
Really proud of boys again especially Gomez who has come back and looks like he means business
just my opinion but lasat night Chelsea had Kante who for me who close to being man of the match after mane
Our midfield could not cope with him at all, and for me it is still the one area we lack a truly world class player goalkeeper defence and attack we all have a person or someone we can deem as world class, fabinho is very good but not world class, I just imagine what someone like a kante would do in a team like ours
I must say though he looks a class above that Chelsea team now does Kante and can see him moving soon.

Johncrow Junior

1.) 15 Aug 2019 14:08:06
I'd agree with that mate, though I think our midfield issues were down to rustiness more than anything else. Additionally, the heat made it hard for us to press. For me Fabinho is the best in the world at what he does (I don't consider Kante a traditional CDM) .

I agree we don't have a world class midfielder, but I also think there's only a handful of those currently playing. With Vidal, Silva and Modric all feeling the effects of age I'd only have Verratti, Saul KDB and Kante in that list.

2.) 15 Aug 2019 14:10:17
Jonchow, Kante had room to operate cos the structure was not there. Again, it has nothing to do with "needing some world class player from somewhere" stuff we keep hearing. No matter who you have, if the structure is too open like it was last night with Milner and Hendo supporting the front three and the FB's, you leave gaping holes in CM for the opposition to operate and run at you esp. if Fab is left all alone to defend against multiple runners.

You also say Fab is good, not world class. That to me, is not the discussion. If you have runners coming at you at will, having Makelele won't help you there. The team structure is unbalanced and even Klopp said so himself and gave reasons why. Having a new player won't help us here. We play team football and our system does not condone passengers. That is what we are having now, IMO.

3.) 15 Aug 2019 15:56:16
All 4 of the players who played center midfield - Fabinho, Henderson, Milner and Wijnaldum, struggled pretty bad yesterday. It was concerning because they are there because of their experience and tactical acumen in Klopp’s defensive system for big games, and they didn’t show any of that.

4.) 15 Aug 2019 16:49:49
So Redwolf you don't agree that a kante ( and I never said over one game) would improve our midfield or someone of that world class type?

5.) 15 Aug 2019 17:33:48
Johncrow, that is not my point. If you asked if Kante would improve us then of course, he would. I was making a broader point which I described in my post already. Chelsea's midfield knew what they were doing and pounced on almost every mistake we made in midfield cos well, their midfield was set up well, ours was not. Our midfield looked incompetent at times and like I said, it won't matter who you have. If the shape, structure and scheme is off, Kante won't improve us until that is fixed. That is my broader point.

6.) 15 Aug 2019 17:35:02
What I couldn't believe last night was the outstandingly poor passing from Matip, almost every ball was given away by him. I also thought Joe Gomez and Matip were far too casual in defence. This really troubles me as ever since preseason started our defence has been uncoordinated.

7.) 15 Aug 2019 18:12:07
For me is that Midfield won the champions league and super and was 1 point from the title
so imagine if we added to that would could be achived you keep harking on about last night you do know the season is more then one game or pre season games mate which last night was akin to
long term we need a world class midfielder imo
but al alwyas I totally respect your opinion
our best midfield set up in the right way and playing well still is not as good as man city or real madrid or maybe even A Madrid.

8.) 16 Aug 2019 10:24:27
Good point Johncrow Jr but what even is a world-class midfielder? Or who would fit the bill? a lot of fans say the same, but our midfield is set up to be more comolex, balancing the press with build up play. Take one piece out of our Jenga tower and our dynamic changes. I'm not sure a Couthino would fit into the squad for this reason as players like this want the centre stage, not the dirty work. That's what makes Hendon and Gini so frustrating to watch. Side to side football is not attractive but if posession is lot we get it back and start over. Normally we end up getting out way and overpowering teams. Perhaps the solution needs to be an attacking midfielder from the bench when teams park the bus. But world class players won't do that, so who? Perhaps the question needs to be have we got the right attacking players to change the game from the bench? Food for debate anyway.

9.) 16 Aug 2019 12:15:30
Johncrow, I could not be arsed about what midfield systems other teams play cos that is not how football works. These teams play diff. styles of football and their midfield setup dictates what players play in them. Hence, comparing City's midfield system to ours is preposterous cos both midfield setups are made to accomplish different goals.

This is why City and Barcelona struggle for the most part against us. It is cos our midfield is set up to press, harry, recover the ball higher up the pitch and then dish to the front three to feast upon a vulnerable defence. That same midfield is the reason Barcelona and City got knocked out in the CL by us. It is not about who has the best midfield/ midfielders. It is about who has the most effective midfield setup and you won't know that until they go head to head and based on results, Klopp's midfield has come out on top vs Barcelona and City. As for A. Madrid or Real Madrid? We'll see when we play them again.




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12 Dec 2019 08:54:50
You have seen only two games and think he would be good back up
that is some real dangerous scouting there mate lol
tbh he looks good but players often raise their game when playing a big team so to speak and so be careful after two games wanting to sign someone.

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23 Apr 2019 19:17:20
Mate we cannot on a open forum be in fear of posting where there has not been any insults towards an ed or disrespect
im sure ED002 is not so bothered that he would take offence at anything written above.

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23 Apr 2019 19:10:53
I will stop as the point im making seems to be lost in you trying to go a different path
chelsea are no saints when signing players klopp tells lies according to you and we have to accept that
thank you for all your info mate much appreicated.

Johncrow Junior

{Ed002's Note - You have not actually said what Chelsea has done wrong - you just seem intent on deflecting away from the Liverpool coach.}



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23 Apr 2019 19:01:27
nothing to do with Chelsea you highighted one liverpool player I highlighted 43 chelsea players
im sure a few of them were made promises about first team chances
and wp were obtained by saying they would play and were players who would not be loaned out but given first team chances
You always seem to make comments about liverpool which we all appreciate
I made one about Chelsea with no harm intended.

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{Ed002's Note - I didn't raise the issue, one of the supporters did. There is no issue with Chelsea having players on loan. They have not been lied to - you are just embarrassing everyone trying to make it about someone else.}



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23 Apr 2019 18:54:37
Klopp is what klopp is not defending him just sayinh
but how many players do Chelsea have out on loan
last count it was something like 43 or maybe even higher
they have a nigerian left back who has been out on loan something like 5 seasons in a row
surely this is worse then what is happening with Grujic.

Johncrow Junior

{Ed002's Note - I am not sure what any of this has to do with Chelsea. You certainly know how to embarras yourselves. And I am pretty sure that Chelsea don't have a liar and a cheat as a coach.}




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10 Dec 2019 13:34:50
I think Dyche would be a great shout for the Everton Job and he deserves the chance to manage the next level up.

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07 Dec 2019 14:29:45
I think you can take out any player but two, for the whole season and we could survive
but you couldn't take out alisson or van dijk for the whole season imo.

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06 Dec 2019 19:52:02
So TjRed you telling me that if a player like mbappe right now said I want to come england and chelsea bid the most offered the highest wages he would chose them over say a liverpool or man city or juventus Barcelona or real if he wanted to go to other top teams
get real mate
right now no top tier player will be choosing to go to chelsea
I think they would prefer to first see how a very inexperience manager gets on and where chelsea are heading over the next few seasons.

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06 Dec 2019 16:33:50
im not sure top top players would be clamouring to flock to chelsea right now
but the tier under that they might be looking at.

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01 Dec 2019 11:08:54
deffo agree as it is never really ever giving to the most deserved just messi or ronaldo
who really remembers the winners anyway?

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