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15 Nov 2017 12:49:11
I know this has been done over and over, but since there was a story out there today I thought I’d ask in case there is a change in circumstance. It’s reported that Can will sign a new deal if we meet his wage demands.
Any eds heard anything on that, perhaps since getting more game time he’s thinking he might be ok with us, or has Klopp sat him down and told him he does rate him etc?

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{Ed001's Note - it is nothing to do with money, the story is complete nonsense.}

1.) 15 Nov 2017 14:08:12
This is just the media trying to destabilise a player with some controversy as per usual, to sell a story.

What better to generate euphoria and turn the fans against Can, than to suggest he is holding the club to ransom?


2.) 15 Nov 2017 21:58:03
Maybe it is Coutinho’s agent trying to turn the fans against someone else to stop the attacks in PC.

3.) 15 Nov 2017 22:24:21
Thanks Ed, I know you’ve always said it wasn’t about the money.

4.) 16 Nov 2017 20:30:41
Hi Eds,

I know its said that he wants playing time (which he now seems to be getting, but may bot be convinced with keita coning in) and the Release Clause, but what does the player get out of having a release clause? If he is happy (which he claims he is) playing at Liverpool. What does a release clause give him? Does he just want a huge bid to come in for him to boost his confidence?

Sorry if i've got any of the above wrong. i've tried to stay away from these conversations because im one who is gutted he is leaving.

{Ed002's Note - The release clause would have to be a termination clause and would need to be low to help the player get out should an offer arrive from a suitable club.}




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15 Nov 2017 23:27:18
Let’s not get into speculation but I sincerely hope Jurgen is ok and nothing serious is wrong with him.

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1.) 16 Nov 2017 07:00:20
When even your manager is getting injured or ill, its safe to say that lady luck does not fancy LFC much anyways. Hopefully the team pull together and send Southampton back home with their tails between their legs.

2.) 16 Nov 2017 08:19:41
Just waiting for that muppet on twitter to blame his training regime!



02 Sep 2017 13:22:50
According to Barcelona we wanted €200m for couts. Then they thanked the player for the efforts he made, that last sentence is just a wind up to lfc fans.

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1.) 02 Sep 2017 14:08:02
Reckon it was LFC telling Barcelona that they were wasting time and effort like they have all summer long.

{Ed002's Note - No, it was Liverpool changing the price when they spoke with other teams - it is unprofessional or stupid. They need to get their act together.}

2.) 02 Sep 2017 14:21:34
It's just a shame we can't take the moral high ground.

3.) 02 Sep 2017 14:46:44
Or pehaps they just changed the price due to the market like any other team would. Before the window it was €100m we quoted and because of how mad that window was we adjusted our price accordingly. Allegedly to €200m. If you want to buy a player another team doesn't want to sell you have to pay more than he's worth. In that market he was worth £140-150m as a fee with minor performance related addons. So if he's worth that as I believe then Barcelona have to pay way more than that because we didn't want to sell. So pay €200m around £20-30m more than he's worth and he's yours.

{Ed002's Note - Know, it is simply unprofessional and stupid. You don't need to scratch around looking for excuses for the club.}

4.) 02 Sep 2017 14:49:43
Lol at ed0002. For years he claims how Lyon give 2 different prices and never calls them unprofessional. Maybe put it like you would if Liverpool were the buying team- Barcelona knew the price. if they wanted the player then match the price they were given. So funny the double standard you use sometimes.

I respect you and usually like your comments although I have noticed that when Liverpool try buy a player for cheaper you say how Liverpool need to match the asking price, yet when we're the selling club and another team offers less than we want then that's because we have overpriced the player. It's weird out targets never get overpriced according to you.

{Ed002's Note - There is no double standard here I am afraid. It is nothing to do with Lyon, who are difficult but certainly not unprofessional. Liverpool have spent the last 6 months being entirely unprofessional and now are looking stupid as well. Klopp got none of the targets he wanted for this season - not one. Perhaps thes lesson will be learned that trying to cheat doesn't always work out?

These attempts to deflect are very, very embarrassing.}

5.) 02 Sep 2017 15:19:08
Edd002 correct me if I'm wrong because I wasn't on the page for parts of the window especially the start of it. Where his preferred options brandt, the young Fulham left back (sessegnon / spelling), van dijk and keita (for this season)?

{Ed002's Note - Correct Al. They were the players Klopp briefied certain members of the press over in April.}

6.) 02 Sep 2017 15:24:08
Ed'02 giving out about Liverpool is just something you have to get used to on this page.

{Ed002's Note - Sorry, I appreciate Liverpool fans don't like the truth. They are happy with some fat kid from Bolton confirming the signing of players like van Dijk, Keita, meeting the release clause of "Seri" and everything else.}

7.) 02 Sep 2017 15:48:38
Disagree with you on this Ed02.
The club signs the player to a 5 year deal. The club issues a statement saying he is not for sale this summer at any price. The club does not sell the player. The rest is just rumour and gossip and there are plenty of sources nowadays making these up on an hourly basis. On this supposed deal, many of those are in Barcelona getting clickbait and selling papers.

{Ed002's Note - I am not sure what part you are disagreeing with. The club held meetings with KJ, PSG and Barcelona about the sale of Coutinho. I explained the situation as it was.}

8.) 02 Sep 2017 15:51:25
Agree with Jason.

{Ed002's Note - Really, would you like to explain just how and where Lyon has been unprofessional this summer? Tell us all about the 12 year old boy that you think Lyon wrecked the career of; the lies they told to a formal investigation and their attempts to get others to lie; the complaints made by other clubs about illegal approaches; the fines they have or the transfer ban they are serving. I will be more than happy to go through it with you.}

9.) 02 Sep 2017 15:54:50
I think liverpool were right, the scale of the average transfer changed before our eyes during that window, so why wouldn't they try to get the best price they could.
Yes they cheated re their targets, tapping up etc. But this is unrelated I think.

{Ed002's Note - And you are OK with Liverpool lying to the fans.}

10.) 02 Sep 2017 16:05:45
i always respect your views ed but i disagree with you on this point. When a player is to be transfered or when he is on transfer market, he is a commodity. His value increases based on the demand. Liverpool may have quoted €100, but the way the prices shotup post neymars transfer, there is nothing wrong with what they did. And whether you like it or not, according to everyone the only team who is looking stupid out of this episode is Barcelona. Its unfair to blame klopp for not getting his preferred targets except for VVD where he screwed up badly.

{Ed002's Note - Klopp screwed up on attempting to unsettle Sessegnon and the views of two people at Fulham that made matters clear that Fulham would not sell him to Liverpool, his attempt to unsettle and his illegal approach to Brandt where he was told he had no interest as Klopp couldn't guarantee him a star, his atyempt at upsetting Keita and an illegal approach which ended with Liverpool making a significant financial commitment for next season and the attempt to unsettle van Dijk, the illegal approach, the meeting with the player, the continued communication, the trail of slime laid down by the owners and the board trying to avoid a further charge for the club. If Klopp was a professional then the situation would not be anything like as bad as it is. Unfortunately he is not.}

11.) 02 Sep 2017 16:41:06
Lied to the club or kept are business as private as we can despite constant leak and statement from Barcelona and their player re:coutinho.
Yes mistakes are made, yes inappropriate behaviour. but unfortunately this is modern football. I despise it but lfc are not the only ones. Lots are at it both Madrid clubs and Barcelona themselves have had transfer bans. Psg are under investigation and man city are facing a transfer ban. Lfc are not saints but neither are a host of other clubs.
With regards to our transfer dealing I am rather pleased with the hard stance the club are taking on sales. Sahko as an example they stood firm and got the money they wanted. years ago that would ended in a season loan with option to buy and the player would then not be bought. Lfc are difficult to deal with. good, it's about time. coutinho stays, again years ago would have been sold for under value like Suarez was.
If other clubs fans don't like it, I don't really care, I am interested in one club. Liverpool fc.
And as a nieve, knuckle dragging fool, I'm happy to see no longer be pushed around.

Rant over. sorry.

{Ed002's Note - Others are bad - Liverpool are the worst and seemingly a lot of the fans are proud of the attempts by Klopp and the club to cheat.}



28 Aug 2017 22:13:07
For ed 2 if I may. Do you think Liverpool have struck a good deal for keita? Would you have looked to strike a similar deal?

Lfc hopeful2

{Ed002's Note - I don't know the terms.}

1.) 28 Aug 2017 23:11:03
Best deal we could hope for considering that RBL didn't want to sell this season but knew they had no choice next.



16 Aug 2017 12:17:56
Eds, with the insane amounts of money on transfers do you ever see an appetite with clubs to do away with the whole business and every player simply be on a 1 year contract and free to move at the end of it? Perhaps development fees for under 23 players to help out lower league clubs, or something like that?

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{Ed002's Note - No.}

1.) 16 Aug 2017 13:06:13
I think I heard Wenger talk about this saying something like transfer fees were so ridiculous he reckons player swaps and free transfers will be more popular, imagine if it becomes a NBA like situation where you trade player contracts and rarely is money used to buy a player.



13 Aug 2017 11:10:03
Eds, I know your sick of the pipco situation but can I come at this from a different angle. When this whole business kicked off Klopp was adamant he wasn't for sale, and then on Friday FSG (not lfc) issued a "difinitive" statement on the situation which appeared to really add some weight behind klopp going into his press conference. Since then couts has put the TR in and then been coming out with what I can only assume is a load of bull, about a breakdown in relationships over the past 6 months. There has never been even a whisper of that on here and pictures of him hugging klopp would suggest otherwise, you just wouldn't embrace like that if you didn't get on.
Could it be that what Klopp referred to yesterday was in fact that it's the owners who are going to insist he stays, and that actually Klopp thinks after what's gone on it's best not having couts around, a lack of trust etc. As I said FSG were unequivocal on Friday and perhaps it's them who don't want to loose face now?
Maybe I'm looking too much into it, I don't know.

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15 Nov 2017 22:24:21
Thanks Ed, I know you’ve always said it wasn’t about the money.

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15 Nov 2017 12:50:28
Never mind “at the moment “ tell him to stay happy for a long time!

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04 Nov 2017 14:47:23
Red Steve, I think that’s pretty unfair on Can, mate.

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31 Aug 2017 13:13:21
Is that uk or Spanish time?

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28 Aug 2017 18:46:07
Thanks ed. in your business minded, not football related opinion, would you get these deals done and let PC go? Also, when do I begin my apprenticeship to take over your reigns 😂.

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{Ed002's Note - The consideration has to be the club and the team and if Lemar were to arrive then common sense dictates space needs to be made. Coutinho wants out - we know that. Most clubs simply move on and don't want to get in a difficult situation with folks who don't want to be there.}




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06 Dec 2017 15:07:30
Bloody hell fella’s, ever heard of tempting fate?!

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04 Dec 2017 19:12:59
New deals always overshadow previous deals cobra. I’m sure when we signed with standard charter the 1st time it was the biggest or second biggest shirt deal. That was bigger than the deals the others had signed and then when they were up for renewal they got more than us. Seems like a constant cycle.

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22 Nov 2017 23:39:39
Been a very frustrating group, reflecting on all of the games so far, the way they went we should have won ‘em all.

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13 Nov 2017 22:59:32
Totally agree, something. How can Gerrard offer an opinion on a Liverpool loss, he’s an employee for crying out loud, can hardly come and and say Klopp got things totally wrong today etc.

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11 Nov 2017 22:36:54
Post of the day Taurus.

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