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16 Aug 2017 12:17:56
Eds, with the insane amounts of money on transfers do you ever see an appetite with clubs to do away with the whole business and every player simply be on a 1 year contract and free to move at the end of it? Perhaps development fees for under 23 players to help out lower league clubs, or something like that?

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{Ed002's Note - No.}


1.) 16 Aug 2017 13:06:13
I think I heard Wenger talk about this saying something like transfer fees were so ridiculous he reckons player swaps and free transfers will be more popular, imagine if it becomes a NBA like situation where you trade player contracts and rarely is money used to buy a player.


 

 

13 Aug 2017 11:10:03
Eds, I know your sick of the pipco situation but can I come at this from a different angle. When this whole business kicked off Klopp was adamant he wasn't for sale, and then on Friday FSG (not lfc) issued a "difinitive" statement on the situation which appeared to really add some weight behind klopp going into his press conference. Since then couts has put the TR in and then been coming out with what I can only assume is a load of bull, about a breakdown in relationships over the past 6 months. There has never been even a whisper of that on here and pictures of him hugging klopp would suggest otherwise, you just wouldn't embrace like that if you didn't get on.
Could it be that what Klopp referred to yesterday was in fact that it's the owners who are going to insist he stays, and that actually Klopp thinks after what's gone on it's best not having couts around, a lack of trust etc. As I said FSG were unequivocal on Friday and perhaps it's them who don't want to loose face now?
Maybe I'm looking too much into it, I don't know.

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11 Aug 2017 23:59:02
Have to say that I am most disappointed in the "leaked" info that klopp and pipco don't get along. I'm fairly certain that if that were the case, one of the eds here would have known that and made reference to it at some point this past 6 months. It sounds like a PR guru trying to feed lines that explain all. Very very sad that it's reached this level.

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1.) 12 Aug 2017 06:40:53
I agree totally. To suddenly start saying things like that is totally out of order. All I keep hearing is what Barcelona need and what little Philippe wants. I'm sorry, but his loyalty should be with the club who plucked him out of obscurity, and pays him huge money and made him the player he is today.
You don't give into toddlers who spit their dummies out and I hope our great club doesn't bow down to the Coutinho and his cohorts tantrums.
We paid £8.5 million for him. Even if we sell him next year for a bit less than £100 million it's still a huge profit. Coutinho won't sulk for long if he wants to be picked for Brazil's World Cup team.


 

 

03 Aug 2017 12:11:01
One for ed2 if I may. I was just wondering what the reverberations have been in the boardroom/ financial side of the football following this neymar transfer? The sort of "buy out clauses " that these superstars have were always set at such ridiculously high figures that they were (or seemed) fairly pointless and almost more for show. Now that someone is actually going to stump up £200m I imagine there are CEO everywhere wondering what on earth is going to happen to transfer fees and also "buy out clauses" that are in existence. I mean what next, a £500m clause? This is such a unique occurrence, is it going to lead to big changes?

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{Ed002's Note - The initial impact on English and other wealthy sides looking to buy abroad will be a potential hike in prices. The English market is already over-valued so may well have topped out by now. The shrewed may take the high-risk option of waiting until the tail end of the window - Spurs with Daniel Levy have often done this, and others may follow suit. But keep in mind there are only a tiny handful of players who demand vast sums of money so this is an exception. Potentially worse than this in concept is what may soon happen with Mbappe - not higher numbers but less justifiable high numbers.}


1.) 03 Aug 2017 13:57:30
Wasn't Ronaldo's 1 Billion euros?!


2.) 03 Aug 2017 14:47:52
Do you expect that the issues in Italy in the nineties, i. e that they were paying astronomical fees, could impact English football in a similar fashion?

{Ed002's Note - I don't understand the question Dave.}


3.) 03 Aug 2017 16:46:51
Thanks ed, has it shocked the boardrooms of clubs or to some extent have they just been waiting for this sort of thing to happen from one of the super rich owners?

{Ed002's Note - I don't really understand the terminology.}


4.) 03 Aug 2017 17:11:23
In my vague memory, I seem to recall Italy being the country and league that could afford to pay high transfer fees and wages, simikar to England now, in which for some reason it all faded out with less temptation for players to join.

I was assuming that quite literally the arse fell out of the league as a consequence of them not being unable to sustain this, and was concerned that at some point the same may happen in England.

In fact, im not necessarily concerned about the English league as things are ridiculous, but surely this cannot continue at this rate?

{Ed002's Note - OK Dave.}


5.) 03 Aug 2017 18:15:45
I just meant have clubs, even big clubs, been taken a back by this sized deal, or has it been expected that one of the psg/ Man City type clubs would one day make an astronomical bid for a player. I mean, we're (allegedly) talking about more than double the fee for any player before.

{Ed002's Note - Not to any great extent - there are a handful of players who would be very expensive to trade and these include the likes of Neymar, Messi and Ronaldo and, particularly Neymar as he is younger and marketable. Everyone knew that Barcalona would need to do something with him or Messi this year. The transfer fee is a shrug to some extent - the wages and remainder of the deal are a far larger issue. If Mbappe does make a move it could well be for a very large but affordable amount - but the size of the wage etc. will be much less. It is all context and nobody is in shock (except oddly English fans).}


6.) 03 Aug 2017 21:14:11
Thanks ed.


 

 

27 Jul 2017 14:13:37
Hi eds,
Regarding the coutinho situation, I was struck by the words and references Koop has made about Liverpool not being a selling club, about his time in Germany where he had to sell his best players and his references to our owners.
Do you think the club could find its self in a difficult situation with him if the do sanction a sale? He must have been hacked off at BVD with Bayern picking off his stars and I'm sure he doesn't want to be at a club where that stars happening again. He keeps making references to building things, the problem is you'll never build anything if the foundations are removed every year.

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{Ed001's Note - yes but they are not looking to sell him. The only way he will be sold is if he wants to go or we want him to go. No one at the club wants him to go, so he will stay unless he decides it is time for him to leave. Klopp wants to build something but with the players he chooses and that want to play for the club.}


1.) 27 Jul 2017 15:13:56
Cheers eds.


2.) 27 Jul 2017 15:53:45
Let him go. Got no worries.

Just because we cocked up last time with Suarez doesn't mean there's a repeat on the cards.

Juventus lost pogba and bought highan, cl final and league winners.

We just need to get keita and we will be fine.

{Ed001's Note - Juve have no competition in their league to speak of, they were already head and shoulders above everyone else and then bought the best player (Higuain) from their closest opponent. We can't do that.}


3.) 27 Jul 2017 16:14:15
Keita more than an adequate replacment for cou in the middle and salah pretty much out performed him in every department last season.

We've already added 19 goals on the wings. If you add the 8 from keita. That's the 27. Cou got 15.

Think we will be fine.

Add to that studge and hendo staying fit. Grujic to come in. Mane to have a full season. Firmino to hit 15.

I'm very excited.

There's only two things going to happen. Cou stays. Or he leaves and keita comes in.

Either way I'm cool with.


 

 

 

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11 Aug 2017 15:05:15
Earlier in the window I said let him go, however it's too late in the day for that now, and pipco should blame Barcelona for that. It's world cup year which always strengthens a clubs hand. Keep him, watch him star in the World Cup and get more for him. Sad state of affairs all round though.

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11 Aug 2017 12:57:12
Eds, which seems unlikely ; that he has handed in a transfer request, or Liverpool would say no?

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07 Aug 2017 17:19:59
I have thought that Ed, regarding your previous posts about meetings in London. If he ain't for sale, he ain't for sale, why would you even entertain talks?

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01 Aug 2017 13:15:28
It is, perhaps, the worst transfer article I've ever seen a paper come up with. At least make it £50m or something even remotely believable (I'm not valuing him at that price before I get a ton of abuse) . As Ed said, why would a club bid less/ equal to what we paid?! He had a superb season last year. It's either invented from thin air or inter are worse than us at negotiations.

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28 Jul 2017 09:41:29
Can't believe people are having a go at Can for wanting game time. He's not "demanding" it, but as ed said have a look at who we have and who we're trying to sign. Would you choose to sit on the bench rather than play, I like his attitude.

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17 Aug 2017 16:36:38
I'd be very surprised mate, that would be a security risk surely.

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14 Aug 2017 17:20:26
Will he still want us if we don't get through the qualifier?

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14 Aug 2017 17:19:32
I and I'm sure the club, really wanted our business done before now, not qualifying puts us badly on the back foot for those top players. Let's just hope we get the job done.

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14 Aug 2017 14:35:45
I honestly thought John w Henry so definitely have done better on first corner, to be fair. He looks like a tall bloke, should be getting his head on those.

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13 Aug 2017 16:50:12
The problem with one dimensional stats, from how many set pieces are these goals conceded? We know that ours seems almost 1in 4 but their's could be only 1 in 20, who knows.

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