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19 Jul 2017 19:55:25
Bayern want 48 Million Euros for Renato Sanches? Surely he's worth a thought with Keita hanging in the balance.

1.) 19 Jul 2017 20:32:16
Hasn't he gone on loan?

2.) 19 Jul 2017 20:40:03
Can't settle in Germany, too much of a risk surely?

3.) 19 Jul 2017 20:42:12
I mentioned this some weeks ago. For me he still has time on his side to fulfill his undoubtedly immense potential. He moved to early I feel in his career. Or what about Leon Goretzka? Both would fit in to Klopp's style of play. Would free up funds for others also. Such as Gabriel Barbosa from Inter. Unquestionable talent just a matter of fulfilling it. Which would then leave the problematical area of CB.

4.) 19 Jul 2017 21:07:16
Surely signing Sanchez and Barbosa would be a massive risk? both been failures in their first seasons in a top league.
They do both have time and obvious talent but it's too big of a risk for me.

5.) 19 Jul 2017 21:07:50
Why the obsession with signing a midfielder? Ok, Keita is obviously rated but if out of range then why scroll down through all the rest to find someone who may not even be an upgrade on what there is?

6.) 19 Jul 2017 21:13:47
The move to Bayern was too early imo, especially with the midfielders they had in the side already. To go thru such a high in his career of playing unreal stuff in the Euro's and getting that big money move to then not getting game time would have completely dented his confidence. Young guy aswell let's not forget. His potential like LFC.77 said is unquestionable.

7.) 19 Jul 2017 21:28:09
I don't think we need to buy just any midfield who is available, we have plenty of midfielders already. I think Klopp really wants Keita now because he thinks he is such a good player and who knows who else might be interested in him next summer. Just buying whoever is available is how we ended up with the likes of Balotelli.

8.) 19 Jul 2017 21:25:16
The lad has been trouble at Bayern. Expected a starting berth, wasn't prepared to work for it, didn't learn the language and has partied hard. The boy is the new Anderson.

9.) 19 Jul 2017 22:24:57
Must be hard for a young Portuguese speaking lad moving to Germany. Probably expected that he would take a while to adapt. I think the important thing is how hard he works in training. Reckon he is worth a shout to be honest.

10.) 20 Jul 2017 01:41:57
Grujic looked promising again today. You would fear for him if Keita is signed though.

Hendo-Can-Coutinho-Grujic-Wijnaldum-Lallana. We've Six excellent midfielders for 3 positions already plus Milner and Ejaria if required.

Cant get my head round Keita really

Maybe Phils said he's off next year and Keita is coming in early as his replacement.

11.) 20 Jul 2017 05:18:22
Renato Sanches is a big risk for a player who has under performed, not settled and could easily have the same problems in the UK.

Agree with Xabi though the amount of midfielders we already have is quite high, it seems strange that another midfielder has been made the priority. The only way it makes sense is if a couple are already earmarked to be leaving.

12.) 20 Jul 2017 05:23:17
And Woodburn, xabi14. he's looked great playing deeper!

13.) 20 Jul 2017 06:42:44
Hendo or Can at base of midfield, Gini or Grujic (or Can/ Hendo) as box to box midfielders and Coutinho or Llalana as attacking mids. can understand if Keita is as good as everyone says why we go for him as you don't pass up top top players, but if he isn't then why go for someone else? We ideally need a FB and CB backup but aside from those two positions I think the squad is in pretty good shape and we don't need anyone that won't immediately improve the first team.

14.) 20 Jul 2017 09:09:20
Haven't we just signed someone who failed at a club when young and then excelled later on.

He was tremendous for Portugal at the euros.

15.) 20 Jul 2017 09:13:12
Hansens scar hit the nail on the head.

16.) 20 Jul 2017 09:20:29
Grujic is an attacking midfielder who should replace Lallana by next year! Keita is a CM. People are just throwing names. You can't compare two different players.

17.) 20 Jul 2017 09:47:47
Coutinho didn't pull up any trees at Inter did he? Now look at him.

18.) 20 Jul 2017 11:10:13
I don't see grujic replacing lallana next year. Lallana was one of best players in the league last season. For the first few months, perhaps the best player. Looking forward to seeing more of grujic but don't see him as a replacement for lallana in the near future.

19.) 20 Jul 2017 11:26:50
I don't think Can will stay around. I think if Juve come in for him he will go.

20.) 20 Jul 2017 11:56:05
you are wrong Joes. The guy can play every aspects of our midfield.

21.) 20 Jul 2017 12:06:33
I fear you are right red fred. And with Lucas gone our once packed midfield options is starting to look rather threadbare. If we miss out on kieta who could still force a move then we still need to pick someone up to replace lucas and perhaps can. I don't think we have seen the best of can yet. He is still a youngster, he really could become one of best cms in world. We should fight to keep him.

22.) 20 Jul 2017 12:10:13
Whilst we have 6 midfielders competing for 3 positions, can we really say that those 6 will compete with each other theme course of the season? Coutinho, Hendo, lallana and Gini you would expect are well experienced enough, physically and mentally capable to stay the course. Can maybe too as he enters into his mid-20s. But grujic is a Massive question mark and is more likely imo to be at risk of fading as the season progresses. There was a good reason the eds were saying he needed more nurturing away from the prem, and a lot of is to mentally prepare for these rigours of a full PL season. He should be a bit-part player contributing in cups and cameos off the bench. Unless injuries or the birth of a start. He is not part of the core rotation. Woodburn is the same.

23.) 20 Jul 2017 12:41:27
Two things.
1. Bayern tried to sell him earlier and had a asking price of €34 mio back in May and lowered it to €28mio.
2. Bayern made clear that Sanches will stay at the club (Hoehness said that about 2-3 weeks ago)

24.) 20 Jul 2017 12:54:41
Will say that I'm impressed with Grujic's aggression. He's got a nasty streak to go with his skill.

25.) 20 Jul 2017 13:11:14
Coutinho was always professional and tried his best. It was just that they didn't fancy him at Inter. Renato Sanches just hasn't tried and thinks he's made it, the two situations are not compareable.

26.) 20 Jul 2017 13:29:56
He's like the midfield Balotelli. No thanks.

27.) 20 Jul 2017 13:40:39
It lucas gone we need someone who can do a similar job. Or a least has a defensive side. Finding players really capable of competing with our lot is going to cost. Some one mentioned kieta is a replacement for coutinio who might fancy a move next near. I hope that's not true but seems feasible. Both in the same side is scary and I don't think Phil does wanna go. Not all players are the same. Cout's kids are scourers remember. I can see him spending his whole career with us.

28.) 20 Jul 2017 13:37:06
Grujic is an attacking midfielder and is far far away from playing deeper. So the idea of him partnering Hendo is out of the paper! He is like a Barkley or Sigurdson who could be very handy in the final third!
There is only player he displaces and that it Lallana! Lallana is not getting any younger!

29.) 20 Jul 2017 16:52:11
Grujic is nowhere near ready to replace Lallana.

30.) 20 Jul 2017 17:18:10
Can will leave, therefore we require more midfielders.

Stewart and Lucas leaving back this up.

31.) 20 Jul 2017 18:10:12
If any of the EDDS r around,
I know patience is a virtue, but somewhere along the line we need to say enough is enough if the KEITA deal is not happening, so EDDS I'd be interested to know if we've shown any interest in JEAN MICHAEL SERI of NICE, an absolute clone of KEIITA, pacy scores, puts his foot in, tremendous passing range, and we'd probably get him for a decent price, we could do worse than him, any views EDDS.

{Ed002's Note - No, he is of no interest to Liverpool although four sides are all trying to buy the player - Lucien Favre says he is not for sale.}

32.) 20 Jul 2017 19:58:23
I just hope Grujic gets some games this season and won't become another waste of money who will sell on as never got a chance?

For me though, even if he doesn't like a more defensive role, he would be a great stopper mid park. i see him as a central player who plays similar to viera (though not that good yet)




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25 Jul 2017 13:16:56
*If* we sell Coutinho it's really going to cut a fuse in my system and fuming wouldn't be the word because yet again we'd be selling our best player and going back to square 1 when in fact we look like we are going to take huge strides in the coming season but by selling him it reiterates that the success we are hoping for won't happen anytime soon . I fully understand the business side of things in terms of selling Coutinho and in previous years of selling your best players to Real Madrid/ Barca but if we want success in ways of trophies i. e Premier League/ Champions League then selling shouldn't be an option.

1.) 25 Jul 2017 13:36:56
Movement of players is normal in football 🤝.

2.) 25 Jul 2017 13:50:23
If he wants to go let him go and get as much money as we can. No point in keeping unhappy players . Would love him to stay but if they sell it won't be because money is the incentive.

3.) 25 Jul 2017 14:06:11
Yet when RBL say Keita is not for sale, we firmly believe we should press ahead, test their resolve and offer more money. we can't have it both ways.

4.) 25 Jul 2017 14:08:58
If he goes, others will have to step up and show their quality. We are not a one man team and as much as I want him to stay, with Klopp at the helm we have a good chance of using the money wisely and improving the team.

5.) 25 Jul 2017 14:24:10
even less of a point selling for loads of money when you can't get anyone to replace him.

6.) 25 Jul 2017 14:31:40
If we sell Coutinho FSG has to go. We shouldn't be selling our best players the way we have since they've taken over e. g Torres, Suarez, Sterling. You don't see Chelsea, Man City, or Man United selling their best players. that's why they are challenging year on year and we are not. I am becoming more and more unsettled with their running of the club even if they did expand Anfield one good does not fix a tonne of wrongs. You could look at the amount of players we have brought in for big fees but look at those who have left for big fees. You are not improving the team by selling you best player and buying 2 good players to fix the problem postions.

7.) 25 Jul 2017 14:35:46
Don't worry
about a thing
cause every little thing
is going to be alright.

8.) 25 Jul 2017 15:17:09
Cyklopps let's not forget though, torres, suarez and sterling all forced their way out.

9.) 25 Jul 2017 15:39:49
Ashy they forced their way out because they saw better chances of winning trophies at bigger clubs with better players. That shouldn't be happening at Liverpool Football Club. We have 1 trophy in the last 10 years mate no wonder we can't attract the top players and we won't ever be able to if we don't keep our best players. FSG is only in it for the money they outlined their plans for the club at the very start, Buy exciting young talent, develop them and then sell on for a profit.

10.) 25 Jul 2017 15:51:38
Cyklopps, The Torres deal was brilliant by FSG, coaches realised he wasn't what he was, he wanted to leave and forced it and we still got 50mil. We kept Suarez a year maybe even 2 years longer than he wanted and although it's a shame he's not in a red shirt, they did well managing that situation based on how he acted/ tried to force a move. Sterling wasn't and isn't one of our best players, he was just something we didn't have (pace and skill) . again he and his agent pushed for a move in a quite sly way. mane is twice the player at a much smaller fee. The other players we bought in I agree haven't all worked out at premiums, but stop blaming FSG for everything.

11.) 25 Jul 2017 17:26:13
Chelsea and Man City bigger clubs than Liverpool.

Good grief.

12.) 25 Jul 2017 17:33:26
Costa is going from Chelsea. United sold Ronaldo. De Gea very nearly went apart from a last minute hitch. It happens but it will happen more to a club that isn't winning trophies.



22 Jul 2017 14:17:21
Trademark Coutinho goal. The boy is different class.

1.) 22 Jul 2017 14:23:20
I know I've said for ages were getting keita to replace couts, but one season with both would be a dream. Crosses from full back again to conceed.

2.) 22 Jul 2017 14:31:41
Salah is effing brilliant.

On a side note I would have TAA as our no 1 RB and Clyne to fill in when tired or injured. I know he's only a kid but he offers more - throw him in!

We will be even more dangerous when Sadio comes back. Some defences will get a hiding this year, that's for sure.

3.) 22 Jul 2017 14:33:09
Looks like Coutinho is having heart ache now. He wants to go but does not want to look like he is pushing for the move.

Leave the smile, Can see pain in his face because of the situation.

That or is he carrying an injury?


4.) 22 Jul 2017 14:36:03
He's off to Barcelona 😤😤did you c his face when he scored . you swear it was an own goal . gutted if he goes gutted.

5.) 22 Jul 2017 15:16:17
Its called a friendly hmasson2.

Want him to swing his shirt around his head and jump head first in to the crowd?

6.) 22 Jul 2017 16:21:45
True but still smile it won't hurt people over there love him at least show you are enjoying yourself.

7.) 22 Jul 2017 16:48:35
It was a final and a leading goal infr9nt of a full house.

I expect a smile like.



22 Jul 2017 13:54:47
Mo Salah with another goal 🏃🏿💨💨💨.

1.) 22 Jul 2017 14:24:59
Mo Salah. brilliant!
Coutinho. brilliant!
Come on lads YNWA.



21 Jul 2017 17:54:56
Pellegrino on Van Dijk: "The boy said that he is not available to play because he wants to leave. This is the decision. "

"I had to say 'if you don't want to be involved because you don't feel OK you have to train alone until this period happens. "

Come on LFC, get this done.

1.) 21 Jul 2017 18:06:38
That's basically going on strike. Got to feel a bit uneasy about that, we'd be livid if it was one of our players.

2.) 21 Jul 2017 18:08:07
Knowing us we will leave him stranded.

3.) 21 Jul 2017 18:15:16
Put a legit £25 Mil bid in.

4.) 21 Jul 2017 18:29:15
Why put in such a low bit?
Haven't we already pissed off Southampton enough?

5.) 21 Jul 2017 18:34:16
Virgil van Stryk.

6.) 22 Jul 2017 11:17:04
Pun of the year Forza mate😂.



19 Jul 2017 10:11:53
Leipzig definitely playing hard ball as they should to be fair as we would likewise with Coutinho (hopefully) lol. One big problem with this situation is if we keep pursuing Keita through out this window and end up not getting him we'll look like fools because we won't have enough time to look elsewhere with Klopp seemingly wanting a CM. I'd offer £70 million and if that's knocked back then I'd move on swiftly or hope for a transfer request from the man himself.

1.) 19 Jul 2017 10:19:11
And if we do pursue him till the last days of the window I can see us "panic buying"

2.) 19 Jul 2017 10:20:53
Depends l4l if Liverpool go straight in with a 70 million bid Leipzig may think they can keep pushing to get more and more out of the club if where that desperate they will think we will pay more than 70 million.

3.) 19 Jul 2017 10:24:17
The problem is there are no like to like players of Keita. This lad is a complete package of Offense and defense like a Kante. You either buy a defensive minded player or buy an offensive minded player. Keita is an old school CM and a proper one!
Klopp doesn't play with a stopper, Means We are not buying a DM or a DLP. A CM who could do a lot more than Fabregas / Wantama are rare to find!
Verratti, Modric, Bokayako, Pjnaic, Kroos, None would come at this point.
I for one still think we will sign this fellow, He will be the difference where we finish next season!

4.) 19 Jul 2017 10:35:08
Yeah true, the club isn't in a good situation at all with this deal by the looks of it. Leipzig could well string us along like puppets.

5.) 19 Jul 2017 10:37:43
70 mil will probably do it. Imagine Keita will develop big time under Klopp and hold if not exceed his transfer fee for you years to come. Hope we get it done.

6.) 19 Jul 2017 10:38:02
Vintage Harry you said in another post about an hour ago that he was good going forward but lacked in defence 😂😂.

7.) 19 Jul 2017 10:58:13

That it Gotetzka my dear friend! Keita is a complete midfielder. Period! Ask anyone who watches the German league!




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26 Jul 2017 17:31:18
Benzema has been woeful the past couple seasons. Serious attitude problem aswell, I'd give that a miss.



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20 Jul 2017 22:57:13
If Keita is valued by us at 66/ 70. we shouldn't be entertaining nothing under 100 million, even then I wouldn't want to sell, Coutinho at this current time is irreplaceable and we'd look like fools yet again to be selling our most influential player.

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19 Jul 2017 21:13:47
The move to Bayern was too early imo, especially with the midfielders they had in the side already. To go thru such a high in his career of playing unreal stuff in the Euro's and getting that big money move to then not getting game time would have completely dented his confidence. Young guy aswell let's not forget. His potential like LFC.77 said is unquestionable.



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16 Jul 2017 13:53:50
Wouldn't mind that deal happening at all, Amavi is a solid full back.



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14 Jul 2017 15:44:29
I've slated him many times in the past but there's one thing I could never fault him on was his heart for the club! All the best to him at Lazio if that concludes.




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22 Jul 2017 08:23:36
Eds is right your not looking at the bigger picture cb.



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21 Jul 2017 17:52:23
Yes, direct quotes from the Saints boss.



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21 Jul 2017 07:33:00
You wouldn't have a problem with him leaving? Shows your stance of mediocrity for the club. Yes you'll probably say 'when Barca/ Madrid come calling you can't say no'. but at the end of the day with Coutinho's quality they'd come calling every window he's that good, as we're back in the champions league I want him to stay to really push on this season in both the Prem and champions league then see how we fair. We can't keep selling our most influential players if we want to push on in world football which we haven't done in many years because of simply that selling our best and not replacing.



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20 Jul 2017 14:10:35
Jesus that brings back memories, I used to have Gonzalez number 11 on the back of that Adidas kit lol.



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20 Jul 2017 11:42:43
I can see where your coming from, similar style of play in terms of how he holds the ball up, similar pace, stature and movement.