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24 Aug 2016 09:15:00
Hi Eds

It has been very disappointing that we haven't resolved our left back issues. Will you be able to give a wrap up of what is in the pipelines regarding out goings and possible "incomings"? which i doubt there will be any

What we know thus far
Alberto to Fenerbache
Illori to Galatasary.

Moby_Red

{Ed002's Note - Balotelli will leave as well. Markovic will leave if a buyer can be found. There is no buyer for Sakho, so a loan seems likely.}


1.) 24 Aug 2016 09:25:21
Moby I think our incomings are done mate tbh.


2.) 24 Aug 2016 09:53:26
i agree Lfc forever, was hoping otherwise though. I do feel sorry for milner. you could see last night he played tentatively when going down the left and final balls lacked quality. his bright moments came when he switched to the right. Hope Klopp has another plan use an academy lb perhaps?


3.) 24 Aug 2016 10:38:08
Should we not be in for Joe Hart? Granted, he may have to lower his wage demands.

{Ed001's Note - why? We brought in 2 keepers and Hart is not very good. Why on earth would anyone want him?}


4.) 24 Aug 2016 10:59:01
What's this obsession with Hart?


5.) 24 Aug 2016 11:35:59
I think joe Hart would have been an excellent addition to our squad if we didn't buy karius. I haven't seen much of karius but I don't think it right to buy a keeper and stunt his potential development by not playing him much. For that reason I wouldn't buy Hart but if we could have bought Hart at the beginning of the window then I would have went for him if an acceptable package could have been agreed. he very vocal, a leader within the dressing room who has been a number one for 10 years so would know all about the pressures of being in the spotlight all the time. I actually think he a major upgrade on mignolet aswel in all aspects of his game. as things turn out tho we have karius so we should get behind him once he back from injury. who knows he might be an absolute beast?


6.) 24 Aug 2016 12:01:51
Sorry Kjmainstreet, but Hart is terrible i wouldn't have bought him even if we didn't buy karius, I would of kept Ward. why do the english media make so much of english players? Overhyped in my opinion, that's the problem with english national team overhyped by the media and continually dissapoints. Echo does the same with liverpool.


7.) 24 Aug 2016 12:27:16
I don't think signing karius is a 'mistake' or anything I jus think our league is a difficult one to get used to and Hart has been a number one at a massive club playing for many years as first choice. he has had adversities throughout his time at city and has come through them. he has the right mentality to succeed and be a winner. as I said in my above post I hope karius proves to be as good as some of the German keepers in recent history. I just think In my opinion that we would b buying a ready made winner in Hart who would have been an upgrade on mignolet. as for ward I think a years loan at a championship/ lower prem team is best. unless klopp made him his number one this season because he needs to be playing regular football.

{Ed001's Note - Hart has been number one purely because he is English and they want an English core. 4 managers have been there and not wanted him, surely that should tell you something? All of them didn't think he was good enough but struggled to recruit a replacement, until now. Hart is just not very good. He has done nothing in his career other than been behind a good team so he never had anything to do.}


8.) 24 Aug 2016 13:00:27
Hart is rubbish and we have karius anyway.

Also think we are crazy going into the season with milner as our LB.


9.) 24 Aug 2016 13:36:37
I take on board what you are saying ed001, and I normally agree with most things you say but regardless of fees or who we have bought do you think Hart is an upgrade on mignolet? I agree with what a lot of people say he is English so the players get hyped up and made to be better than what the actualy are and I agree Hart falls into that category but I still think he a good keeper. he seems to me to be a vocal keeper who is respected by his fellow peers, I respect everyone's opinion on this matter and ov course if it was as easy as everyone agreeing we wouldn't have football forums. hope we can agree to maybe disagree on this one ed001?

{Ed001's Note - what difference does it make if he is an upgrade on our back up keeper? The question is whether or not he is better than Karius. Sorry but peers respecting him? What does that even mean? That his fellow pros aren't slagging him off? When do you ever hear a current player slag off another current player publicly? Try watching Hart flap and throw the ball into the back of his net repeatedly, then you will see he is the English Mignolet, crap with the ball at his feet, unable to organise a defence and not much of a shotstopper.}


10.) 24 Aug 2016 13:57:09
I cannot understand some people's obsession with Hart. Karius will be no 1 when fit Klopp bought him for a reason to suit the way his teams play.


11.) 24 Aug 2016 13:59:27
Ed001 I agree about Hart, and I was wondering from what you've seen on Karius how highly you rate him? I'm looking forward to his return!

{Ed001's Note - not seen him play, but he can't be worse than Hart or Mignolet playing with a broken hand!}


12.) 24 Aug 2016 14:25:27
What! Mignolet hasn't had both broken ankles for the whole of last season, that's news to me! i thought his falling over all the time was due to serious long term injuries ;) as for Joe he's decent at best would put him in the same bracket as Forster and let's say butland for english keepers.


13.) 24 Aug 2016 12:12:31
We should definitely buy Joe Hart.


14.) 24 Aug 2016 16:17:38
I like Joe Hart. But i like him in the same way I like Djimi Traore or Emile Heskey. He tries hard and is very passionate, but that doesn't make him a good player. A leader? Yeah I can see that to be fair. He doesn't tolerate slackers. In terms of actual ability though, he has only gotten worse over the last 5 years, and he wasn't all that special to begin with.

Better than Mignolet, but that is like saying Danny Rose is a good left back because he is better than Moreno!


15.) 24 Aug 2016 17:05:42
Sorry. I can't buy that Harts a terrible keeper. He's had more games notable for his excellent performances than nearly any keeper I can think of. Not seen enough of Karius to make a judgement on whether he's better than Hart, but I certainly hope he is, because that means we'll have a real keeper on our hands. Hart hasn't had it easy at city over the years and their defences have been ropey for large periods, if he was that much of a liability I'm sure they would have got rid. Being English didn't save the likes of Rodwell.


16.) 24 Aug 2016 17:31:42
He has had exceptional performances RA, including one reasonably recently against Barcelona that at least kept them in the tie. Unfortunately over the last few seasons those performances have come fewer and further apart, while his errors have become more frequent and more catastrophic.
At the moment I would be no happier with him in net than mignolet.


17.) 24 Aug 2016 17:33:29
I actually rate Hart, I think he's decent. He makes a few mistakes, but most keepers do. He's better than mignolet and to say he's worse than karius without having seen him play is odd to say the least.


18.) 24 Aug 2016 19:17:05
Hart should stick to washing his hair.


19.) 24 Aug 2016 19:24:39
Hart is an awful keeper and his mistakes are there for all to see. His howler at the Euros when Bale hit the free kick from 35 yards out and he still spilt it despite having all day to see it coming. Had Karius or Mingo or any other non English GK done that, he would have been slaughtered for it and rightfully so. But because Hart is English, the apologies and excuses came pouring out and now certain fans want him here if Karius hadn`t signe. The guy is awful and deserves the grief he gets, end of.


20.) 24 Aug 2016 19:35:58
Hart was exceptional the first time city won the league. He has got worse but to say he's a bad keeper is a bit harsh I feel. That said I would t want him at Liverpool. He's not consistent and Like the rest of the team all I want is consistency rather than great one week awful the next. We'v had too many false dawns and Hart isn't what we need.


21.) 24 Aug 2016 21:47:23
Agree with Hart, he is a rubbish keeper, even flicked on the Man city game tonight briefly and there he was flapping at crosses. Credit to Migs, at least he is a decent shotstopper, but if Hart was with our defence, he would probably be worse then Migs in my opinion, definitely just as bad, he will struggle when he moves on to a team who do not have as good of a defence as City does.

As for Sakho, has it really gotten that bad with him? I have not really been following his story since he was sent home from America. Is Klopp looking to get rid because of his attitude? I thought he was still injured, that's why he was still not in the team.


22.) 25 Aug 2016 00:32:04
Joe Hart advertises Head and Shoulders and still has dandruff. Enough said, stay well clear.


23.) 25 Aug 2016 10:14:01
All this fascination with Joe Hart is ridiculous, he only ever seems to be any good when he has Kompany infront of him to organise the defence.

In my personal opinion he only gets in the England team because he has a bigger name then the likes of Forster and Butland who are on their day better keepers and are more consistent albeit playing for smaller clubs.


24.) 26 Aug 2016 09:24:58
It does make me laugh hearing some of this.

He only looks good because the City defence is great. Yet when the City defence is shredded it is Hart's fault even though the evidence is right in front of people's eyes that he has stopped them from shipping double figures in those games.

He's over-rated because he is English. Yet every other thing people are slagging him off with involves the words English or England - he wouldn't get half the crap he gets if he wasn't English. By the way if you want to see over-rated look at the hype that surrounded Courtois and then look at his performances. Oddly he isn't English.

Ed001 this one is for you I'm afraid (normally I agree with what you say), the comment wasn't that his peers don't slag him off, it was that his peers rate him. I've referenced before that Buffon who has been one of the best keepers in the world rates him and says it.

Hart was rubbish at the Euros so he's rubbish generally. OK so who here is prepared to make themselves look foolish by pointing out that Neuer was rubbish at the Euros so he must be rubbish all his career as well.

Take a look at the games v Liverpool and Barcelona, that isn't someone who isn't even a good shot stopper. (Also look up what at one time was called the golden glove ratings for EPL keepers each year - oh sorry I forgot that is because City's defence is amazing) .

I have a vested interest in keepers that I will declare, my son is a keeper and has been since the age of 7 and over the last few years it has been an eye opener just what goes on. He has been exposed to some poor coaching and some top level coaching - which is pretty much the same for most keepers. The development of keepers in this country is rubbish not because of ability or of numbers or of the quality of the dedicated GK coaches but because the way the game is structured at under age level is biased massively in favour of outfield players, every time the keeper gets into a stage where he can dominate you'll see the goals get bigger, the pitch gets bigger etc. Do people on here know just how few coaches at the grass roots under12 levels actually let their keepers take goal kicks? How many of them do any work on the keeper coming for the ball? Great deal of FA. It isn't helped by the simple fact that the top levels in English football have no interest whatsoever in English keepers. The likes of Hart and Butland are absolute rarities and if you want to talk about achievements being an English goalkeeper and getting into the top 2 divisions of English football as a starter is a massive achievement since most clubs/ managers only want to sign foreign keepers. And the scouting process is hit and miss as well, I heard a top flight club academy GK coach say that they have kids sent into them, by their own people, who can't do the basic drills that are a keepers day job and were sent through because the club's scout saw them play once and make one good save. The development of keepers in this country, in spite of some very good coaches trying to sort it out, is woeful. For those two to make it to premiership level in that situation is way more achievement than most seem to realise.

If you want to criticise keepers for being poor on crosses do some research first. One, take a look at the bucket loads of footage that is out there of the top keepers in training - see how much you can find of dealing with crosses that involves more than just the spare keeper standing in their way and not interfering. All the time and effort that coaches put into having the defence man mark, zonal mark, mark this type of player, stand here etc see how much you can find where they do that, with all the buffeting and illegal stuff and have the keeper coming to claim it. By the way next time you're at a match and hear the keeper call for the ball, take a look at how many defenders actually respond by clearing the way for him - great deal of none because they're too busy thinking about the shirt pulling contest and the coach ripping them a new one for their man getting to the ball first etc. Watch what is done with keepers as a pre match warm up on crosses and that is pretty much what gets done generally. If you have a keeper who is averaging 70-30 or 80-20 on effectively dealing with crosses you have a really good keeper. To put that into context if your midfielder has a pass completion rate of 70% or 80% that is seen as a decent performance. If your keeper does anything less than 100% it is seen as him being crap. Think about what you accept in other players and then whether you accept the same standards from the keeper.

On which subject just going consistently onto the pitch in the most exposed position takes bigger cajones than most keyboard critics will ever have to find out whether or not they have. It takes more guts just to be on the pitch than most outfield players have to realise. Then add in the fans, don't forget your keeper spends half of every game in front of the away fans. And you would not believe the number of keepers I've heard saying they're glad of that to get away from the rubbish thrown at them by their own fans.

If you want to criticise Hart for something then be realistic, he isn't a good footballer, he is a goalkeeper. Liverpool were lucky to have 2 naturally great keepers in the past in Clemence and Grobelaar who were more interested in trying out being outfield players and were allowed by their coaches to do it. But if your day job is to underwrite insurance and you happen to use a computer as a small part of that, should you be expected to be a secretarial level typist? If your day job is to train to do the many things a keeper already has to focus on are you going to become a good sweeper? Then add some context that most centre backs are poor distributers. Seriously watch how many will only pass when there is a clear run to the man and the recipient is in masses of space. There is a reason why genuine top level keepers who can play as a true sweeper (i. e. be a passer not a hoofer) are rare. Hart is a poor distributer and as Jamie Carragher recently said he should have been working on that in the time since they knew who was coming in. But most of the flack being thrown at him here is poor. He is noticeably better than Mignolet and a lot of others around in the EPL. He also uses his size in a way that Mignolet, who is slightly taller, simply doesn't.

Now for the record, I don't think Liverpool should sign him.

Karius has been signed, he is an investment who is actually in the same position Hart was in, a guy who has developed to a good standard very early (check out his and Hart's age/ playing profiles) and the last thing we should be doing is not playing him because the club has signed a 29 year old highly experienced, highly successful international keeper. I also think if Liverpool do what other teams have done and invest in a young keeper and accept he will make mistakes, it could lead to a decade of having a top keeper. Don't stunt that.

I also believe that had Butland not got injured he would have 1. pushed Hart harder in the summer and 2. almost certainly have been brought in after the Wales game. Which would not have hurt either of them. But Hart would be a big step up from Mignolet.

One last comment because I made a comment about De Gea using his feet too much that was completely misunderstood. All keepers should be able to save with their feet when the occasion demands, that isn't what I'm referring to. What I'm talk about is a good keeper isn't still just sticking his foot out at pretty much anything close to his sides rather than looking to use his hands whenever possible. I've watched a lot of keepers over the past 4 years with my son, United have been lucky not to concede far more goals where he goes with his feet and misses (because it wasn't the right choice) or because you can't generate power by sticking your leg out just deflects the ball into the surrounding area opening up a rebound chance. Hence the reason I've heard full time GK coaches shouting at kids "oi De Gea use your hands".

Anyway sorry for the long rant but having had an insight into goalkeeping over the last few years (and more aspects/ levels of it than I've mentioned here) it really annoys me that people apply such double standards to how they rate players and are always quick to kick the keeper in spite of evidence in front of them of what is in front of the keeper.

{Ed001's Note - sorry but if you are going to go with that nonsense about his peers, then you are wasting everyone's time with crap. I couldn't be arsed to read this, because anyone who thinks a guy with poor positioning, who constantly flaps at shots he should save easily, is any good, has not got a clue. Hart is an average goalie. Buffon has said nice things in the past about a lot of crap keepers, in fact I seen a quote recently, shown to me by a Belgian guy, about Migs which was talking up his quality. It is pointless to mention what their peers say about them, they are not in a position to make honest comments as they are very likely to work with them in the future and it can be awkward. Just ask Andy Townsend about how awkward things can be if you make non-complimentary remarks about a fellow pro you then have to deal with, either on your side or the opposing side, later. His ugly XI caused him a lot of issues during matches when he had to face his choices.}


25.) 26 Aug 2016 10:18:03
If you think goalkeepers have it tough, you should see how they were treated in earlier eras, before referees began protecting them.

Keepers have the most longevity, and the least injuries of any position in football. So in that sense, it is certainly not the riskiest position.

Keepers are most in danger from their own players. See our very own Karius. This happens when a defence is poorly organised. A goalkeeper who knows how to organize a defence and communicate well will put himself at less risk.

All in all, your rant is unconvincing, and does nothing to undermine the original point:Joe Hart is overrated because he is English.

Man City now have the coach with the stature to act accordinlgly.


26.) 26 Aug 2016 10:28:37
Ed001 I don't expect everyone to agree about Hart, he does polarise debate. I also don't have an issue with your comments about peers, I know exactly where you are coming from about not saying bad things. I was quoting Buffon because I haven't seen him play up truly crap keepers and he has to my knowledge no cross over gains from praising Hart.

Positioning is an interesting one and I know what you mean about the quality of save being influenced. I've seen a lot of it all levels where the keeper makes what looks a spectacular (for the fans) save that would have been straight forward if their positioning was better. I've also seen at age levels people raving about the wrong keeper because they can't see that the better keeper was the one who didn't keep getting himself into a mess, that he had to do something spectacular to bail himself out of.

But then positioning also isn't about where they are for that one isolated second so it can be a lot harder to blame a keeper for being in a poor position for one shot if that is because of where he has had to be before that. Just my opinion but Hart gets his positioning decent more often than not - Mignolet for me is maybe break even (trying not to be unfair here) . Hence I don't agree with the view Hart is worse than him. Not least because he is still making those bail out saves when he is in the wrong place. My main point though was that what slack people cut a forward (he has to be there to miss and you only worry when he isn't there at all) they don't cut a goalkeeper - e. g. he may not get his positioning right but he is still making the saves, when you worry is when the positioning isn't great and the bail out saves aren't happening either. And I have no expectation other than people will now say that is totally different.

I don't expect to agree with people here about Hart, I'm not an England supporter so have no vested interest in him, I just don't rate him as low as the rest of you. It is opinion. I've said before he's on the lower fringes of the top group n the EPL and that is my opinion. In terms of what is available in the EPL Liverpool would struggle to find someone better available to buy. Personally I'm coming round more to the view that if you're buying below the top level of player experience in the EPL counts a lot considering how many players fail to settle. I also said I wouldn't suggest Liverpool should buy him unless Karius is totally crocked. I'd rather see Karius given the time to develop from what is a pretty good standing for a 21 year old. The key thing being people don't jump on his back over every mistake. I don't rate De Gea as highly as others but I do recognise he is in that top group and one reason he is there is because at the same age as Karius he had a manager who said he was going to persevere with him even though at times he was woeful.

{Ed001's Note - I think you are missing the point, Hart concedes too many because his positioning is poor and he very rarely makes simple saves. When he does, then the media is full on about him being some kind of superstar for parrying a bunch of shots hit at him. He is average, yes better than Migs, but he is utter dross. Hart is not good enough for the Prem and has been very lucky to have the career he has, purely because he had great potential at one stage and is English.}


 

 

12 Jul 2016 15:33:14
Hi Eds

I see in some reports that we are looking at digne again? is this correct or are we still hoping chilwell gets fit enough to do a medical before the transfer window closes?

Moby_Red

{Ed002's Note - Sounds like nonsense to me. He has been the target of other clubs - not Liverpool. Maybe another of Rodgers' targets that interest Klipperty - but not to my knowledge.}


1.) 12 Jul 2016 17:24:37
Digne may be off to barcelona.

{Ed002's Note - He is not on the top of their list of left backs and may also be concerned (as one of the others on the list) that being second pick is not for him. But yes, he is one they are looking to.}


 

 

24 May 2016 09:23:09
Hi EDS,

Is Karius a done deal? or are we just putting the cart before the horse again? My first post I ever had on here was to ask about Karius nice to see it happen if it should materialize.

Keep up the good work guys!

Moby_Red

{Ed001's Note - just awaiting medical results.}


1.) 24 May 2016 11:17:20
Do you rate him? Really value your knowledge as you have always been pretty spot on.

{Ed001's Note - I have seen very little of him sorry. I got caught up in watching every single Premier League game this season, instead of taking more time to watch other leagues. I won't make that mistake next season as it has left me out of touch with players of interest.}


2.) 24 May 2016 12:31:27
I saw him a few times last year. His ability to make saves isn't particularly outstanding, about at the level Mings is at when we decide he's been doing alright for a few games. His ability to distribute the ball seems much better and a huge improvement on what we have. Never really saw him shouting and organising overly much but then I also didn't see him when he really needed to be.


3.) 24 May 2016 12:36:24
He's been voted by fellow Bundesliga players as the second best behind Neuer.


4.) 24 May 2016 13:20:09
I watched a few games after some rumours came out on these pages a couple of months ago, and the first thing that struck me about him was the same as most young goalkeepers today. They seem to catch and hold the ball far less than in the older days, and tend to parry or box the ball away. And quite a few times the parrying was towards the center of the field, where an onrushing striker could easily slot the ball into the net (didn't happen once in the games I watched) . I also noticed he is fearless with the high balls and doesn't hesitate as much as Mignolet, and he is better with his feet. I'm actually very excited about this signing. Could turn out to be the most influential signing of the summer, for the long term.


5.) 24 May 2016 14:04:42
This is why i love this site, a community lending its voice, beside those nasty trolls of course. I haven't seen much of him either as Bundesliga matches aren't televised that frequently in South Africa anymore.

Great insight guys!


6.) 24 May 2016 14:16:43
Ed002 suggested that Karius would be a better bet a couple of weeks back.


7.) 24 May 2016 14:54:27
He's not a good as people hope he is. There is potential there though. I'd go for Horn but the chance of getting him was slim anyway.


8.) 24 May 2016 17:24:30
He just sign and took the No 1 shirt.


9.) 24 May 2016 19:25:20
I think he will be a good signing as long as too much pressure isn't put on him, It could take a little bit of time to adjust to the prem.


 

 

21 Apr 2016 14:50:40
Hi eds,

Has anyone looked at Alphonse Aréola who is on loan from PSG at Villareal. Surely with Trapp and Sirigu in there ranks they would be willing to sell. Has liverpool scouted him?

Thanks.

Moby_Red

{Ed002's Note - PSG has no intention of sellingbhim.}


1.) 22 Apr 2016 08:25:55
PSG are looking at offloading Sirigu on to some poor mug this summer, so I'd say he'd be returning to be number 2.


 

 

17 Mar 2016 09:01:35
Hi eds

Reports coming out of sky, that we reportedly in for fernando from city for 10mil surely his wage demands will be astronomical?

Thanks guys.

Moby_Red

{Ed002's Note - There is interest from elsewhere but I am not aware of any from Liverpool. I have no idea why you wish to bring the wages in to it.}


1.) 17 Mar 2016 12:15:59
Not needed.


2.) 17 Mar 2016 12:37:22
He's not even close to what we need, he just runs around with no positioning.


3.) 17 Mar 2016 14:02:38
I sincerely hope not. Lucas is twice the player Fernando will ever be. We need to be upgrading our CDM position, not downgrading.


4.) 18 Mar 2016 01:29:11
He's not better than Allen, Lucas, Hendo and Can so what's he doing here?


5.) 18 Mar 2016 08:04:17
Could be to replace Allen.

{Ed001's Note - they play completely different roles in a team.}


 

 

 

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24 Aug 2016 15:53:32
Eds

with our left back situation looking as it won't be solved. I would like your opinion on who is out there that could fill the void at left back? I have seen that Marcos Alonso has done quite well in italy over the last year, he has played in england before and shouldn't take long to adjust. In my opinion i think we should be looking at someone with that sort of profile.

Any other thoughts out there?

Moby_Red

{Ed001's Note - he was not good enough.}


1.) 24 Aug 2016 17:07:07
Probably get shot down for this but whenever I watch Van Arnult (spelling ) lb at Sunderland I'm always impressed.

{Ed001's Note - by the one full back in England that is a worse defender than Moreno?}


2.) 24 Aug 2016 17:23:37
There are hardly anymore Ashley Cole's left in England. Majority bombs forward sacrificing the defensive duties and hence all clubs has a speciality look after guy called CDM. Klopp trust Moreno's offensive attributes ( I don't know what are those ) But that's the reason he has never wanted an old fashioned full back who doesn't cross the half way line. His team at Dortmund had absolute pace down the flanks.
This is what I think.


3.) 24 Aug 2016 18:56:55
Van Aanholt is good going forward, but non existent defensively because he never goes back!

I have always maintained that Ryan Bertrand is the best left back in the Premier League (although that is no real accolade) and Azpilicueta is the best right back in the league. Although Bellerin is the only full back in England who I can see becoming world class, he is still a little inexperienced as shown this weekend just gone when he got too close to Musa on the wrong side and gave him an excuse to go down.

A while back I posted an article on this site and suggested that the best (realistic) option out there for us at left back was Sead Kolasinac. I would probably stick with that.


4.) 24 Aug 2016 21:09:38
So Ed001's sounds like the boy for us then!


5.) 24 Aug 2016 21:19:48
Got Van Aarholdt in my fantasy team "Keague Champions".
Wouldn't have him at LFC though 😄.


6.) 24 Aug 2016 23:50:45
A couple of big clubs are looking at the left back from Leeds United, Taylor I think his name is, in his last year of contract, not signing another, so he will move on soon, is he any good?


7.) 25 Aug 2016 03:33:33
Van Anholt? Good heavens! There are really no more LBs any more in PL.


 

 

28 Jul 2016 11:06:48
Hi Eds

Any truth in the Balotelli and Lucas rumours? Are the players open to moving to Galatasary?

Thanks in advance.

Moby_Red

{Ed002's Note - RTP.}


 

 

29 Jun 2016 10:40:06
Fellow posters i think as liverpool fans we need to get our heads out of the clouds i see supposed LFC fans making statements of Mkhtariyan and how his better than Mane and how could united get him and how we should buy a Marquee signing like Higuain or buying kids like Dahoud we are over run with midfielders where is he going to play? . Klopp has never bought a so called marquee signing so why should that differ now. The next step is a clear out and to get a reliable left back, and the EDS have given enough info on this. so relax guys

Eds keep up the good work! Will start getting interesting after the Euro's.

Moby_Red

1.) 29 Jun 2016 11:23:35
He has just bought Mane at £40m isn't that marquee?


2.) 29 Jun 2016 11:28:58
I am quite happy with the signing of Mane, he is quick, he poses a threat and isn't scared of sticking the boot in. Plus you know that he has premier league experience and adapted to the league really well. I will be the first to admit I wasn't keen, but he is here now, he wants to play for us and he is no mug on the pitch.


3.) 29 Jun 2016 12:44:27
Cheers Ed,


4.) 29 Jun 2016 12:46:09
Cheers Ed, appreciate your opinion, just wondering who you would like to start with as a defensive unit next year, if we get Chillwell.

{Ed001's Note - Sakho and Matip with Flanno on the right.}


5.) 29 Jun 2016 13:25:35
Sorry ed, i like the CB pairing but for me Flanno is in not yet at the level of consistency to nail down the first team RB slot and as much as Clyne can frustrate at times, for me he is better all round than Flanno. Having said that last season he was returning from a long term injury so hopefully he can improve his form to more of what we saw in 2013-14.

{Ed001's Note - Flanno at his best is much better than Clyne. Clyne is and will never be good enough.}


6.) 29 Jun 2016 13:00:23
If that's the case why are we going for zielinski? We are definitely going for a midfielder so saying you don't know where dahoud would play, well he would most likely be in the first 11.

It seems Allen and even possibly Lucas are on there way out. Milner, hopefully will not play there ever again and is used as a utility player. Stewart, with the arrival of grujic and another midfielder (which we are definitely going for) means he may go out on loan or see his chances very limited next season.

If klopp wants to play his favoured 2 sitting midfielders, then that's about 6 players vying for 2 spots so it's over pact, but the midfield needs improvement regardless. Last season is testament to that.

In terms of marquee signings, klopp has made so called big money signings before, and mane is certainly a marquee signing by price.


7.) 29 Jun 2016 14:16:45
Cheers Ed. Is that because Sakho is the best we have or do you rate him? he always looks clumsy to me but to be fair hard to say he's had shockers, just always looks awkward as an athlete if you know what I mean.

{Ed001's Note - Sakho is the best of our defenders, he has pace and strength. The awkwardness is just the way he moves. I remember a quote from a guy involved in the Moneyball thing in baseball, about how they could get a value by looking at players that looked awkward, as people judge them based on that, rather than their actual ability.}


8.) 29 Jun 2016 14:40:13
Ed001.finally someone has spoken sense about Sakho. I have been saying this since he first played. I've heard fans say he is terrible and they and the media go on and on about his awkward passing. What does it matter how he looks when kicking the ball if it get to where he wants it to go. He is a beast.
It is just the same as aul whiskey red nose rubbish prediction of Hendo never being good enough. Unfortunately some fans still think that is true also though.

{Ed001's Note - again based on him looking awkward. People forget that Fergie wanted to sign Hendo before we got him.}


9.) 29 Jun 2016 15:35:17
Rooney looks good when passing the ball yet he's been aweful for years. The Sahko awkwardness nonsense is just a stick to beat him with as those who can't find anything good to say about him say that. The guy is a beast and can play, end of. All the other stuff is just while noise. As for Fergie, he said what he said about Hendo because he was sore that Hendo rejected him and signed for us.


 

 

17 Jun 2016 09:47:05
Hi Eds,

Anything new on ..........

Moby_Red

{Ed002's Note - This is the Liverpool page.}


 

 

09 Jun 2016 08:24:37
Hi eds,

Now that Feghouli is a free agent, has liverpool looked at him again? and what is these disciplinary issues that he has? Is he of interest anywhere else? very good winger considering we looking for one?

Thanks guys.

Moby_Red

{Ed002's Note - Nothing has changed.


 

 

 

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16 May 2017 15:41:42
Hi Eds,

Knowing nothing about the subject myself, how should Liverpool be structured to handle these kinds of players. This is surely not a unique situation for Liverpool but for all clubs. A club as the size of Liverpool should have grasped this by now? Lack of future planning? and are they being addressed?

Moby_Red

{Ed002's Note - Yes, but they are not.}


 

 

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24 Aug 2016 12:01:51
Sorry Kjmainstreet, but Hart is terrible i wouldn't have bought him even if we didn't buy karius, I would of kept Ward. why do the english media make so much of english players? Overhyped in my opinion, that's the problem with english national team overhyped by the media and continually dissapoints. Echo does the same with liverpool.

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24 Aug 2016 09:53:26
i agree Lfc forever, was hoping otherwise though. I do feel sorry for milner. you could see last night he played tentatively when going down the left and final balls lacked quality. his bright moments came when he switched to the right. Hope Klopp has another plan use an academy lb perhaps?

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21 Jul 2016 09:32:24
What we lack in this day and age is perspective, every player signed every deal done has to work otherwise its doom and gloom. Judge was maybe too strong of a word. For every one Suarez there are ten Carrrol's. The way we acquire players though needs to get smarter so that one suarez will be 5 Carrol's instead of ten and correct me if i'm wrong but that is what's bugging you Ed001? cz that definitely bugs me. kp up the good work and keeping loving the club. YNWA.

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21 Jul 2016 09:00:33
Ed001 i agree totally with you, I just hope Klopp proves us wrong. The GW has been acquired is a lazy piece if business. If GW, Klavan and a LB are our final purchases a massive clearout needs to happen all over the park. I think we need to reserve judgement until the end of the transfer window though.

Moby_Red

{Ed001's Note - I am not judging him, I am giving my opinion. I expect him to win things with us given time, but that does not mean he won't make mistakes along the way. Even Bob Paisley made mistakes and he is the best of all time.}


 

 

 

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18 Mar 2016 14:20:28
Hi Ed totally agree. It would of been nice if Hendo took that chance and scored that goal, I still think his the best player we have arriving late in the box. If he can do it more often at the right moments he can get more goals. This will help the team even more, people must get off his back. You try and play they way he has with injuries and sickness, you'll be stretched off in 5mins. Ed001 what kind of player is Grujic i haven't seen him play how do you see him fitting in?

Moby_Red

{Ed001's Note - I have not seen him play either, sorry.}