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16 Jun 2023 07:37:35
Do you see this model of city’s continuing for the next decade and beyond?
They clearly have to have been breaking FFP rules to be able to amass this size squad for the figures they spend and with the wage bill they have because whichever metric you look at, they don’t have any step up of self generated resources than the rest of us do and yet they can seemingly spend what they like.
Even with all the legal stuff going on, now that the bubble has burst and they are being watched closer will they still continue this way or will they eventually move over to purely club generated income?
Honestly, if this comes across as a bitter line of questioning, I am. Football goes in cycles and our premier league boon came at the same time as a financial doping behemoth.
1.) 16 Jun 2023 08:12:28
I would say yes. Now that City have the bar line in place, they can effectively carry on and balance the books with player sales moving forward.
They also have about a dozen clubs worldwide under the City Group which I'm sure will allow flexibility with players etc as well.
I do think they potentially broke the rules initially to get them to this point but at this moment in time are now likely self sufficient.
2.) 16 Jun 2023 08:18:49
One of the issues is that the EPL and La Liga are competing for the global market. Without City breaking the rules, Real would be steamrolling their way to more CL wins, and the EPL could become second choice in places like India and China, which are two of the large, untapped markets.
Besides that, Oil money pouring into the country is 'good' for a struggling economy.
Does anyone know how strict and well implemented the FFP rules are in Spain? How do Real keep spending ridiculous amounts on the best players with such high wages?
This goes beyond capitalism to geo-political power in my opinion.
{Ed077's Note - PL has and will continue to have an advantage in that competetion because of its much much better marketing, the language (english) and crucially the timing of the matches.
3.) 16 Jun 2023 08:21:20
Trouble is Quo they'll spread that financial grease up and down the ladder. Folks who make decisions on whether to prosecute will be offered holiday homes, cash, fee flights from that bottomless pit that City have. And some will cave in to that and fill their pockets.
And that's all it takes. It's human nature unfortunately.
4.) 16 Jun 2023 08:31:49
City Group owns 13 clubs now. They can stockpile talent from all over the world and can do efficient inter-group recruitment.
PSG have started this process too. They own 3.
Khalifa sits on the UEFA board.
Meanwhile, Saudi are busy distorting the market with enormous contracts for elite players in their twilight years.
The horse has bolted.
5.) 16 Jun 2023 08:35:24
Of course they will continue, and others will join because at the end of the day, football is in a world of its own and everyone knows it, we are in big danger of being left behind if we don't join them.
6.) 16 Jun 2023 09:25:05
Sadly yes it's sustainable. City are no longer breaking FFP and the past few years they have been able to sell players for big fees. If they sidestep the charges from the past (which I think they will, forget trusting the Premier League), then I expect it to continue.
They'll likely cash in on Bernardo this summer and get decent fees for Cancelo, plus the treble prize money will allow them to spend a fortune and keep it all above board. Haaland will move on for 200+ million in a year or two as well.
{Ed001's Note - actually without the fake sponsorship deals and moving players around via dodgy dealings through their multiple clubs etc, they would still be breaking FFP. Who says cheats never prosper? They win everything in sport, and if it looks like being discovered they can just get a judge to order the court to destroy the evidence. Just ask Spain, Barcelona and Real Madrid.}
7.) 16 Jun 2023 10:26:45
I don’t understand why everyone is so bitter towards City.
Their treble is probably the greatest sporting achievement since Lance Armstrong dominated cycling and Ben Johnson the running track.
{Ed001's Note - to be fair to Ben Johnson, there were only 2 athletes in that 100m final who were actually clean. Carl Lewis is a far bigger cheat and had served a number of bans in college athletics for failing doping tests, yet he has never been stripped of any of his medals.}
8.) 16 Jun 2023 10:28:26
Spot on, FlyPelicanFly. I fully agree with you.
9.) 16 Jun 2023 11:07:31
Ed001 bloody Carl Lewis. That was the name I was trying to think of and use. When I googled it, first few articles it showed were Johnson. Came up as the dirtiest race in history. I didn’t have time to read it just plucked his name out of the headline.
10.) 16 Jun 2023 11:12:21
The only way we get respite from this is when Saudi Arabia and other Middle Eastern clubs pump their own leagues full of the best players and lose interest in Europe. We might finally get a level playing field when all of the best players have moved to Middle East anyway and Ben Mee is a Champions League winning captain.
11.) 16 Jun 2023 11:26:25
As Johnson said himself, the only one in that race not juiced up was the starter.
12.) 16 Jun 2023 17:18:50
The prem will just get boring if their running away with the league every year . But let’s be honest look in the last 10 years at the teams winning the domestic leagues regularly
Juve
City
Real/ Barca
PSG
Money talks .
19 Apr 2023 15:23:55
Konate played right off a back three at RBL, I’m wondering if he was possibly bought with this tactic in mind. Sure, there’s an error on the ball, but everything else was exemplary and he showed just how intelligent a player he is tactically to be able to cover the area so astutely. I think matip and Gomez are struggling in that role IMO, whereas it looks natural for Konate.
One summer a swallow does not make and was against shattered opposition, but I was loving the tactics. First real control of a match for a while.
1.) 19 Apr 2023 16:10:43
If we're moving towards that system we probably need to bring in a left-footed centre back who can also operate as a left back. Allows the back 3 to shuffle across when Trent moves forward and I worry Robbo isn't disciplined enough to play that position, we need whoever it is to stay back most of the game. Robertson's run as a guaranteed starter should be almost over by now anyway to be fair, someone like Levi Colwill might be a decent option.
2.) 19 Apr 2023 16:20:09
Konate for RBL and Gomez for England both look well suited to playing RCB in a back 3. Could really get the best out of him. Worth noting that Ndicka plays LCB in a back 3 and is a player we're interested in too.
3.) 19 Apr 2023 16:40:20
Having a left footed CB is not a bad thing to have in the squad anyway.
Levi Colwill is a great shout but doesn't sound easy to do.
Whether this 3-box-3 system is something we do more of next season is still open to debate.
Robbo's weakness isn't necessarily discipline but rather he is not technically good enough to invert or use his weaker foot. He has often been seen as the press trigger for the opposition as he can get trapped on his left foot.
He's still the best left back in the business but perhaps doesn't have the technical ability to play in other formations if needed.
4.) 19 Apr 2023 16:54:46
Good point FPF. Robbo's right foot is for standing on haha!
5.) 19 Apr 2023 17:18:15
I can assure you Konate wasn’t signed with a back 3 in mind. We’ve had no “Plan” for ages when it comes to Transfers.
No midfield, 4x left wingers, no Salah back up, £80m Nunez Substitute every week, no real Trent back up… the list goes on.
I think our bad form, injuries, and the fact that none of these games now matter, has helped us stumble across a new formation where we get the most out of Trent (millions of LFC fans been calling for him to be used in this hybrid role for years) not me btw I still see him as a right, back but it looks as if Those fans were 100% correct
I just hope we sign some decent players in summer, and we can look back and say those new players, and the new formation, were Worth writing the entire season off.
6.) 19 Apr 2023 18:45:19
Have to disagree. I think Ramsay will be an excellent signing. Once he recovers from injury - he'll slot into RB whilst TAA goes into mid.
7.) 19 Apr 2023 19:15:30
Gvardiol is the absolute perfect left footed center back and arguably the best in the world today.
8.) 19 Apr 2023 20:09:13
Liverpool FC8
You can assure us can you? You're aware of all the goings on at the club and their transfer policy, strategies, tactics, personnel comings and goings?
9.) 19 Apr 2023 21:59:39
I have no inside information Baked Bean.
But what I do know is we signed Arthur Melo
That’s all the proof I need to know, we have no idea what we are doing.
10.) 20 Apr 2023 08:48:29
What you mean is you have no idea what the club is doing. I'd say considering what the club has achieved since Klopp came in proves overwhelmingly that the club knows what it's doing.
One off season doesn't mean you wipe out recent history in favour of pedantic pessimism. Unless you have a particular mindset of course.
11.) 20 Apr 2023 08:51:14
I don’t see Robbo as being an inverted LB in the same vein at all. Maybe I missed it or wasn’t looking for it, but the tactic seemed to barely affect the left side or at least was aimed to disrupt the left side as little as possible. We just added an extra phase or shape in the transition. Almost like 433 in defensive, 3223 in transitional/ counter press, 2143 in attack. Hendo had to be ready to cover more so, but Trent and Ibou had to be well on it tactically, and would have to be 100% concentrated for it to work properly moving forward.
I still am not sure why we can’t just stick with what has been so successful over the last years as I don't think it’s the bodies, but the tactics which have been our main undoing this season, but this option offered a possible hope for what could be if they wish to persist in trying something different. I love Trent as a full back, but we may just see the best of him as a playmaker.
Perhaps the saving grace of this dismal season is that we are now in a position to be able to experiment with the tactic as we have little more to lose.
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LiverpoolFC8 I can rest assured that the same old predictable nonsense you spout means I just skip over your posts.
14 Apr 2023 10:00:36
So, seeing as these journos will have just gotten a sniff that some dialogue may possibly (or not) have happened about JB and decided to run with what they know will be as big of a story in this end of season lull for Liverpool, I’ve decided to do some speculation of my own.
1) Liverpool made contact or submitted a bid and were rebuffed initially, but that for a player we’ve chased/tracked/had strong interest in for at least 2 years, won’t be put off by one rejected offer, knowing full well the ballpark figure for a long time, will make another bid.
2) Dortmund leaked some minor details (the asking price was too high, he’s not available etc) to let LFC know, other clubs, public etc that the race has begun and that we and they were too far apart.
Or
3) We’re further along than is being reported and Dortmund don’t want it to derail the rest of their season so a basic nonsense brief was put out.
Or (most likely)
4) Much like a herd of skittish deer, one journalist sees a flicker of movement and they all tear off in a panic without knowing what the hell’s going on.
1.) 14 Apr 2023 10:44:42
Until something is reported by a reliable source, like Ed002, or the BBC (and not as a regurgitation of rumour), there's little to talk about.
We'll sign him or not. I mean, I want the guy, but throwing wobblies over what journos say is just going to artificially elevate everyone's blood pressure.
2.) 14 Apr 2023 10:55:47
Listening to Klopp’s presser today it appears Joyce was tipped off and released the story. We definitely wanted Bellingham. That bit is not only clear from the Ed’s on here but Klopp himself. Rumours of a bid went in. That bit I’m unsure of but could be possible. But clearly we asked Dortmund for the price. Dortmund which is fair because they want the best price for themselves would prefer a bidding war. We had a rough idea and funds set aside but when they came because with £130 million asking price or thereabouts we said it’s not feasible. Only thing is Ed2 has said for a long time that £130 million would roughly be the price so not sure why Klopp and FSG only discovered that now but such is life.
I vented on here the other day but we have to move on now. Im just praying he goes Madrid instead of City. Couldn’t bare to see him at the Emptyhad. Personally I would be targeting Caicedo or Manuel Ugarte. Urgarte would be cheaper and is just as good. Then also targeting Alexis Mac Allister. Ugarte is reportedly valued at £40-50 million and Mac Allister is reportedly valued at £60 million. A midfield of Ugarte or Caicedo right side of midfield, Bajcetic left side and Alexis Mac Allister in front of them would be a great midfield with mobility and steel to revert back to the press. Trent and the defence would look a lot more solid through Ugarte or Caicedo alone. I’m praying we are targeting that type of calibre of midfielders and not Mount and Gallagher.
3.) 14 Apr 2023 11:29:50
ed2 - genuine question with respect - do you post news on the site? I feel like you're usually answering questions and verifying rumours as opposed to so to speak? or do I miss your posts? thanks in advance.
{Ed002's Note - I am not sure I know what you mean but I am not posting lists of players clubs are scouting as it gets too much grief.}
4.) 14 Apr 2023 12:00:09
Blimey, posted this the day after all the JB stuff came out and it’s only just gone up on the site now and with the first paragraph and a half missing. Not sure what’s gone on - my end or the other but its not quite right!
{Ed002's Note - Liverpool never made any sort of offer.}
5.) 14 Apr 2023 12:25:30
Fair enough, cheers ed. It was just really meant as some tongue in cheek speculation as journalists are won't to do anyway. I still don’t believe its 100% dead in the water anyway, just difficult as it would be with international target numero uno.
{Ed002's Note - The club have already moved on.}
6.) 14 Apr 2023 12:36:14
So in essence, Nobody knows anything as far as the journos are concerned. Ed01 already said as much BUT that went thru deaf ears apparently. Thanks to such people's ability to process information like spoiled children, Ed02 has now stopped posting lists of players we are interested in for now, hence their conduct has ruined things for everyone. Pathetic.
7.) 14 Apr 2023 15:15:24
I don’t think it’s an issue of price at all. Of course they knew how much he’d cost.
It’s an issue of paying that price in the context of all the other work the squad needs. We need 4 or 5 signings, not 1 or 2.
Bellingham was a signing for a Liverpool team at the top of their game, a cherry on the cake. We thought we were far better than we actually are.
Last season flattered us and the club clearly thought they were better than they actually are, which is why they were happy to wait it out for a huge signing. Now it is clear that our squad is shot and needs serious surgery.
It’s a crying shame as I reckon he’s even better than everyone thinks he is. I’d be shocked if he wasn’t up their with the greats by the end of his career.
However, no one player is more important than the team, and the team needs a lot more than one player. If we signed Bellingham and nobody else, then inevitably flopped in the first few weeks, everybody would be lamenting what a stupid decision it was to blow it all on one player.
This is the correct decision.
8.) 14 Apr 2023 16:41:17
Bellingham should have been the cherry on the cake but now the interest's scone.
9.) 14 Apr 2023 18:26:12
I'm not sure it's 100% over.
What happens if liverpool get investment before the end of the season. surely then its possible again?
Wouldn't expect more than 2 recognised players to come in either way. We are getting left behind by poor investment since winning the league. That's when the gradual rebuild should of started in my opinion.
Club is a shambles at the moment throughout. Feel klopp won't last another full season under these restraints again.
31 Jan 2023 18:21:16
I’m just wondering, for all of those who are desperate for a signing (or 6), if we were to purchase a midfielder (or 6) with a scattergun approach akin to Chelsea, and it didn’t work out would you be sated because we tried, or would you still all be moaning like little children?
While I admit that the signing of Gakpo certainly gives bait to the dim witted who demand an instant impact, rather than a form of forward planning, had that 37 million been spent on a midfielder who didn’t work out I suspect those same people would still never have been happy. Not to mention that we’d be lumped with an extra body whom those people deemed unworthy of the shirt.
So I ask again, because things don’t always work out as you’d hoped and a lot of you don’t seem to be able to think in a reasoned or logical manner with regards to living in our means, ignoring facts about what we’ve actually spent, dismissing the scouting department because we’ve not found the next Kante and how the club is generally run, what do you all ACTUALLY want?
(Remember this isn’t FIFA or Football Manager)
1.) 31 Jan 2023 18:43:43
No point posting that pal. fsg have no interest in funding any further into this club and if no investors are found by fsg. you can forget your summer transfer window too. They've basically written the season off.
Obviously you feel the right because you have an opinion that differs to others to start calling people dim witted.
Your the kind of poster that never sees any negative in your own beliefs clearly.
I think we all ACTUALLY want are owners that give back to the team and invest more than what this bunch are, obviously you'll be happy to see the club fall from grace greatly. There is something seriously going wrong at this club in my opinion. Hey but what the hell. Let's all praise fsg.
2.) 31 Jan 2023 18:46:01
It would be near impossible. Absolutely impossible. For 3 new midfielders to make us any worse.
We’re below Brentford and Fulham. 1 win in 6. How bad must these players be to not improve on that Quo.
3.) 31 Jan 2023 18:56:39
It just looks like people want "shiny new toys" at any cost. Look at the Moises Caicedo situation. He's played 25 games total in the Ecuadorian League. He's played 26 games total in the Premier League (Brighton) . And 12 games total in the Belgian League. That's only 63 games in total, in the senior leagues of professional football. Well under 100 games of senior football and yet people are clamoring that 80 Million be paid for him? That's absolutely insane. Just ludicrous. That price tag is clearly directed at clubs like ManCity and Chelsea. And we should not be suckered into such stupidity.
Yes, he's good, but he hasn't shown enough and proven it consistently enough to be worth that kind of money. And I don't buy the argument that we're incapable of paying 80 Million if we want to. Look at Darwin Nunez. He could end up costing 80 Million. But there's no comparison. Nunez played in 57 games for Benfica last year; just 5 games short of what Caicedo has played in his entire 5 year professional career. There's a basis and a foundation for the Nunez purchase; therefore his price tag. What's the basis and foundation for the Caicedo price tag?
The club has learned a very good lesson from our good friend Mr. Naby Keita. And I hope it's a lesson that's always remembered.
I'm a Superfan. But unhappy that the midfield was not re-inforced. Not just this window, but last summer even. But. I will never support crazy financial dealings that could land the club in deep trouble again.
4.) 31 Jan 2023 19:09:12
Say we sign three bad midfielders to improve us. What do we do with these three bad midfielders in the summer?
Or are you happy with bad midfielders for next season because you think they would improve this season's midfielders?
Madness.
5.) 31 Jan 2023 19:10:12
Seemingly their little babby hearts are crushed after not winning the quadruple so give them a break.
6.) 31 Jan 2023 19:11:31
The question is do you want midfielders to get above Brentford or Fulham or wait and hopefully get better midfielders that give us a chance of the big trophies?
7.) 31 Jan 2023 19:25:48
Not sure your how much your argument really stands up, Quo.
To be fair, I'm frankly baffled by the huge transfer fees for Caicedo and Enzo Fernandez given their relative inexperience and think they both come with immense risk. But if we take the line "what if the signings don't work out" to it's full conclusion then we better not sign anyone. That's not viable either is it? Any signing comes with risk.
Signings alone aren't going to fix our current situation, I think there are mentality and tactical issues too. But imo we should've signed a decent midfielder this season to replace Ox and Keita (who should've been sold at least a year ago - I appreciate we would've taken a hell of a financial hit on both, but it would've been worth it) . It didn't need to be a Bellingham or an Enzo Fernandez at £100m or whomever, but someone decent with a bit of talent, who could get around the pitch and bloody stay fit would've made a difference this season. Not all of the difference, but some of it.
I'm sure it'll be addressed in some way in the summer, but given Henderson and especially Fabinho's declines this season, we're looking at 2 or 3 midfielders now. And probably a CB given Matip, van Dijk and Gomez have made a tonne of mistakes this season. And I think we'll be in serious trouble if we don't make those signings.
That isn't wanting Chelsea's spend £400m in a year approach. There's a middle ground between not signing in a position you clearly need, and signing players like you've edited the database in Football Manager to give yourself an unlimited transfer budget.
8.) 31 Jan 2023 19:30:59
I want the midfielders to reach 40 points at this stage Irish. Loan them then Rigs? I’ve never said we needed to spend loads of money on it.
It’s horrible what the club done to the likes of Henderson and Fabinho tbh. No midfield help in years, Drove them into the ground, legs have gone.
Fans shouldn’t be turning on these legendary players of the club. They shouldn’t be getting Hate,
They should be getting Help. Very poor from the club and it’s beginning to happen to Klopp.
9.) 31 Jan 2023 20:07:30
As frustrating as it is LiverpoolFC8, I’m hoping Klopp has a plan and doesn’t make himself to look stupid as others would suggest. We shall see.
10.) 31 Jan 2023 20:51:26
He's playing a very risky game of roulette, Irish. With the consequences being the club not qualifying for UCL (which has it's own domino effect in terms of finances and recruitment), and also with Klopp risking his own job. "They" will be out for his hide if we don't qualify for UCL and Bellingham goes elsewhere.
He better have a plan. Otherwise I don't understand the ease with which he bought Gakpo but stubbornly not bringing in midfielders. People will disagree with me, but I don't believe that Caicedo and Fernadez are the only ones out there, for us. There must be easily 15 other midfielders out there that do very well, what these two do. And at nowhere the price these two are being quoted at. Hasn't Klopp built his career on that? Unearthing and developping players? It better be a real good plan.
26 Jan 2023 18:55:48
Unless I’ve read it wrong, bbc article said Liverpool were third top spending team in 2022 in the world.
Ok, so no midfielders, but hardly being tight fisted if true.
1.) 26 Jan 2023 19:57:25
I think that’s nonsense. Man City, Chelsea and Utd have certainly spent more, without checking other teams.
2.) 26 Jan 2023 20:27:21
Nunez and Diaz weren’t cheap, and given we agreed the deal for Gakpo in 2022 they may have included him in a very conceited way, but their point still stands. We aren’t exactly skimping on spending big when we have to.
3.) 26 Jan 2023 21:23:24
Had a quick look at the report and is says we were third on total transfer spend in 2022. Only transfers I remember of high values were Diaz and nunez.
But the report does say total transfer, so maybe we had loads of add ons included. Would need to read the report fully to see the definition for the table.
4.) 26 Jan 2023 22:50:26
Yea I followed a link and it comes from a very in depth fifa document (which I read some but not all of) . No mention of individual fees for players or clubs that I could see, but Man Utd top, Barcelona 2nd, Liverpool 3rd. Just goes to show this tight fisted fsg nonsense is just that.
5.) 27 Jan 2023 09:17:17
Surely Chelsea HAVE to be in there? They’ve spent a fortune ?.
6.) 27 Jan 2023 09:54:13
we had some of the highest wage bill and paid the highest agent fees for the last few years. and FSG were tight.
eyes. rolling. now stuck in my head.
7.) 27 Jan 2023 11:32:39
Anonymous Woolback, QV and Faith, surely you jest. Seriously, are you guys insane for speaking the truth about the club's high spending levels under the dreaded tightfisted FSG. Don't you guys know that it is is absolute blasphemy in the fan base to say that FSG have spent 100's of millions of pounds on players and wages?
How dare you? What audacity?
You guys had better apologise for your atrocities ASAP before The "FSG are stifling Klopp" or The FSG Out brigades will come for you with their fires and pitchforks. Im out. Peace and Love.
14 Apr 2024 13:14:53
Don’t say that Centrepoint. We can't afford an Exodus.
29 Mar 2024 10:54:09
He’d be sacked by Madrid unless he wins everything within 2 seasons just like everyone else and he’ll be aware of that. Staying at Leverkusen doesn't necessarily mean waiting for Real. He may just be an honourable man, repaying the faith in Leverkusen.
26 Mar 2024 16:19:56
WDW, I mean sure, I was thinking of using the example of a young Gandhi, but then I thought using another striker may be more relevant.
I was pointing out that you don't have to look world class at 19 to become world class a few short years later. I don't think anyone predicted Kane was destined to become the player he has become and therefore, the relevance of Ferguson’s goal record now on what he may or may not become is virtually nil. It’s called a comparison.
As Gunn10 pointed out, I did say all time PREM top scorer so obviously although not 100 percent fool proof, id say its a long enough length of time with a large enough player pool to judge a player’s ability against.
25 Mar 2024 11:30:20
Harry Kane wasn’t tearing up trees at 19 or 20 either and should’ve become the all time prem top scorer. As an isolated stat, 6 in 35 for a mid table team at 19 years old isn’t eye watering, but then isolated stats never give any context either.
21 Jan 2024 14:16:15
Can’t argue with that WDW. I realise it’s a highly improbable transfer but regardless of the hullabaloo, in a proper decent league he’d fly. For us, he’d fly. I love how this squad is coming together, the camaraderie, the skill, excitement and potential is great. I don’t really see how a player like Mbappe wouldn’t take this team to the next level though. He’s another mo type in that he’s got a great injury record, would score for fun and would be a great team player IMO. The hullabaloo would also generate vast interest and income as well so i can’t see a downside other than having two of the front three never getting a rest. Not that it mattered with bobby and Sadio though to be fair.
I just think people make excuses for not wanting him as insulation against disappointment because we always get mentioned when his name comes up.
It’s all pie in the sky though really.
10 Apr 2024 16:47:56
Ey up. Just to have my turn stirring up the pot. If you start your post with, “gem of a beauty, ” then criticise someone else’s wording without context, you’re liable to get a retort of some sort.
FWIW, I thought the same as MKS before I even read his post and without the context he provided.
Both statements can be true at the same time. I wouldn't call Jota world class by any stretch, but he time and time again proves himself to be a world class goal scorer. Plenty of defenders are world class tacklers, but are terrible at positioning. Great shot stoppers flapping at crosses etc.
To be world class you need more than one string to your bow - unless you’re Robin Hood.
That said, Salah would still be welcome in 99.9% of teams in the world. That makes him world class in my book.
01 Apr 2024 12:01:05
I do ArAy. That’s why he shouldn’t be discounted IMO. Young, hungry and English isn’t the be all etc, but it’s a bonus for me. Less likely to have their head turned by one of the other Euro giants and more chance of being a legacy manager. I may be wrong, but I think only 3 or 4 foreign mangers have lasted more than 5 years at a prem club. Most teams with consistent success have benefitted from having a consistent manager.
I don’t particularly see what he did wrong at Chelsea and if he were still at Brighton he’d almost certainly be in the conversation.
I think people just have to get used to the idea that the next appointment will not bring the same excitement as Klopp did from the off and by starting with a negative attitude of every name that is not Klopp or Alsonso it doesn’t bode well for the inevitable patience that will be needed.
31 Mar 2024 23:07:05
I still don't think Potter should be entirely discounted. He earned his chance at Chelsea and then was given a poisoned chalice with very little time. It was never going to work for him and they still continue to stutter.
Xabi was the only individual who immediately stood out, but in his absence there aren’t too many people who you would think you’d like to see which would have the sticking power and bring the stability we will need.
We don't want a caretaker or to drift from manager to manager every couple of years so I wouldn’t have an issue with bringing in a young, hungry Englishman who had garnered a great reputation prior to the disaster that is Chelsea (he’d have been nuts to turn it down after all) .
The fact that so many here are so quickly dismissive of any the options is nuts. We have to accept that we will likely have to suffer the dreaded transition with whoever it is that comes in.
30 Mar 2024 20:57:42
I agree with NBG. If he were to take the real job it would go completely against the ethos that he’s instilled in all of his jobs thus far; success does not depend on price tags.
Real are the archetypal antithesis of what he has championed in his managerial career. If he were to take it then to me it would be nothing more than like your favourite band releasing some pop drivel just to get a number one. Sellout.
I’d be sick as a pig TBH. Plus it means Ed02 was right about him all along ?.
26 Jan 2024 12:09:02
Absolutely gutted. Do you think Klopp will have the thought of leaving the door open for Alonso ed? Striking while the iron is hot, so to speak. Also, what is with the timing now? A rallying cry for the end of season push, something happening behind the scenes or just no other good time?
{Ed001's Note - I doubt him going has anything to with that.}