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27 Oct 2018 17:31:52
Anyone have any idea why Mane hasn't signed a new deal yet?
Is he looking to leave like Can, by running his contract down?
I really hope he signs and stays!
He looks happy and is performing well, so fingers crossed.
1.) 27 Oct 2018 17:40:48
Mane still has over 2.5 years left on his current contract.
2.) 27 Oct 2018 19:01:32
When you look at the new contracts being offered to and signed by some of the important players, it's just slightly worrying that he hasn't yet.
I mean, Gomez only signed a new contract last year and is in the process of being offered a new deal.
Firmino has signed again.
There was news that Mane had been offered a deal in the summer, but no news of it being signed yet.
3.) 28 Oct 2018 08:52:14
Two and a half years, crazy for anyone to be worried about this.
4.) 28 Oct 2018 12:54:43
Says you big Emre, you filthy contract rebel ha ha ha.
5.) 28 Oct 2018 22:48:00
Some folks ain't happy until they've got something to panic about.
6.) 29 Oct 2018 06:41:34
Lol FTR, exactly mate. I'd of thought people would just enjoy the moment, what we're going through is nothing short of fantastic.
Contracts these days mean bugger all anyway! time to forget it and let the club do their job, Mane I have no doubts will sign a new contract when he/ the club are ready. In the meantime forget all of the negativity and enjoy what we have right now! which is a squad capable of winning that bloody title!, that's all what matters to me, the here and now, the future doesn't exist yet so we shouldn't worry about something what hasn't happened.
7.) 29 Oct 2018 10:39:06
I was about to write exactly the same thing Salah, contracts mean nothing other than the player being guaranteed to earn a certain amount of money for a certain length of time.
8.) 29 Oct 2018 11:25:35
I would be more worried if he doesn’t sign an extension next summer rather than worry about it right now. Pure speculation, but I would imagine any recently offered contract was probably not as lucrative advance say Salahs after his brilliant seasons and Mane wants the same. Hence a stalemate and Mane being challenged by the club to match Salahs feats to get a similar contract. A long shot but seems feasible in my head anyway. Mane is not short on confidence and I personally consider him to be a superior player to Salah.
9.) 31 Oct 2018 14:47:30
We’d really, really, really like Sadio Mane to put pen to paper on a bumper new Liverpool deal.
He’s one of our most important players, was rewarded the no.10 this summer, has bagged 18 goals in his past 30 matches and has a brilliant offensive relationship with Roberto Firmino and Mo Salah.
But while his team-mates extended their deals earlier in 2018 and are contracted to the club until 2024 and 2023 respectively, Mane has yet to sign.
James Pearce of the Echo explained during a Q&A yesterday that at the moment, there’s nothing to worry about, as the Senegalese has two and half years left to run, but did indicate that it’s a situation that could become problematic eventually.
“Sadio Mane is under contract until 2021. Liverpool made it clear towards the end of last season that they would be willing to reward his progress with a new long-term deal and preliminary talks were opened, †Pearce said.
“Clearly, those discussions have yet to reach a conclusion but Liverpool don’t seem overly concerned about the situation. Mane is clearly happy at Anfield and the Reds have a good relationship with his agent Bjorn Bezemer.
“With Mohamed Salah and Roberto Firmino having penned new long-term contracts this year, Mane is the next priority.
“If the situation remains unresolved come next summer then a degree of concern would be understandable but I don’t see it as a big issue currently. â€
We imagine the current impasse is about money, as most contract debates are. Liverpool are surely willing to make Mane one of our highest paid players, in line with Mo and Bobby, but perhaps his agent is looking for more.
Perhaps the 26-year-old can prove he’s worth it in the coming months, which we’ll be delighted with.
Mane is worth a monstrous contract, and we think he’ll eventually sign one – but having witnessed what happened with Emre Can – it’s a little frustrating.
10.) 31 Oct 2018 23:06:03
He couldn’t find a pen that was working.
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28 Jul 2021 11:47:25
I've seen a few articles saying that Klopp is supposedly unhappy with not being able to spend more in the transfer market.
Yes we know how the owners like to operate and the C.V. etc, but surely we have to capitalise a bit more on the time that Klopp has left with us - on the back on some really good success.
A 1st-team and/ or squad always needs new faces o freshen things up every couple of years. That is beside any areas of weakness or lack of cover that need addressing.
Going back to the bit about Klopp, is that journo's just making up as usual or Klopp getting info out there to try and get some more players?
Also, surely if the owners want to keep their investment at a premium level they need to try to be as successful as possible. I'm not saying go out and get Mbappe, Haaland, Saul etc, but surely we do need 1 or 2 1st-team quality players?
{Ed002's Note - No problem then - sell the players they would be replacing to pay for them.}
1.) 28 Jul 2021 12:41:28
Red, you are absolutely correct, we do need at least two top players to challenge, but the Ed has hit the nail on the head as usual.
Unless we sell, not just to generate funds but also to make room in our quotas, then we wil end up paying wages to the likes of Origi, Shaqiri and Minamino when they are not available for selection having been excluded from the 25 man squad.
This scenario almost occurred last summer when the loan for Grujic to Porto was secured with minutes to spare.
2.) 28 Jul 2021 12:46:28
It’ll create a bit of a uproar but I agree with ed002. All the front three hitting there 30s is not a great place to be specially with cash being tight. Not suggesting they should be forced out of the club but if one of them did want to try somewhere else and there was some lined up in the early 20s it’d make sense. They’re going to leave one day anyway why not be when they’re options out there.
3.) 28 Jul 2021 13:07:13
No need to panic yet, all 3 are fit as fiddles! similar age to the likes of Spurs or Arsenals frontlines. Likes of Salah/ Mane have another good 4 or 5 years left in them.
4.) 28 Jul 2021 13:29:32
OP, I don't believe any of these articles so called journalists write about our transfer dealings. Why? A lot of them are made up out of whole cloth. You see Articles say "LFC are not signing a replacement for Gini or a midfielder" whereas the same papers are linking us to Saul, Neuhaus, Saul, Bissouma, Tielemans and so on. So which is it cos it cannot be both?
Now you read an article saying Klopp is unhappy that he can't spend money. Based on what reliable info? Any sources directly saying that or is it the tried and reliable " it is understood" or "it is believed"? Oh and now they are blaming FSG for not giving Gini a new contract whereas anyone with basic knowledge of footie business knows that owners don't deal with contract extensions, who signs and who gets sold.
Moral of the story? LFC do not do their business in the media anymore nor do they leak info to the media anymore. And clearly, some in the media have a hard time believing that or getting over that so they now resort to fabrications and this is the latest one: Trying to stir up chaos in the fan base by pitting Klopp against the owners.
I'm not worried at all and don't read such things. We will do our business and get the players we need in. As for the front 3, they are not going anywhere so the situation is irrelevant, IMO. And if Klopp is really peeved then, he do exactly what Ed02 has said.
5.) 28 Jul 2021 14:44:06
Personally I think midfield is the priority over a forward. Elliott, Jota, Minamino, Ox and if we can’t sell him, Origi, is enough and Mane and Salah have both had plenty of rest this summer thankfully. We do however need a reliable quality tactically disciplined centre midfielder who can win the ball back quickly but also can pass and distribute quickly.
{Ed0666's Note - who would you advocate us purchasing for that role mate? Sorry if I’ve asked you this question before.
6.) 28 Jul 2021 15:47:25
IF we can keep our squad fit, Elliot can replace Shaq, Jones can step up, Thiago hits the ground as he finished last season, the front 4 play well, then we've got a great chance of challenging on the two major fronts. Bench this season: Kelleher/ Adrian, Tsimikas, Firmino/ Jota, Gomez, Matip, Neco, Elliot, Jones, Milner, Minamino, Ox, Origi/ replacment. I don't think that's a bad bench at all.
7.) 28 Jul 2021 19:07:47
Any of Saul, Bisoumma or Neuhaus Ed. They’d do. But avoid the likes of Sanches or Tielemans.
8.) 28 Jul 2021 19:38:35
VVVV, “We need a quality, reliable, tactically disciplined central midfielderâ€. Wow, all those attribute all in one? You’ll be lucky to find one with even half of those attributes, lol.
Seriously tho, we have Hendo and Fab who fit that bill already. I do believe we need a better midfielder than Sanches even tho I think he is a good player overall. Saul? One can dream. Bissouma? I seriously hope so. Tielemans? Very good player but won’t work in our system cos he does not press at all and isn’t asked to do so at Leicester.
9.) 28 Jul 2021 19:43:27
Jones isn't good enough.
10.) 28 Jul 2021 20:20:41
How do u know that Kloop. We have a lot riding on Jones this season.
{Ed002's Note - He is a troll who has now gone.}
11.) 28 Jul 2021 20:31:55
Oli, those were the attributes that Klopp saw in Wijnaldum, so it’s important that we bring in someone similar or better and Saul, Bissouma and Neuhaus have those qualities. I suspect Saul will end up at United, Bisoumma at Arsenal and Neuhaus will wait for Bayern leaving us with scraps at the bottom of the barrel like Sanches.
I’m not buying into the Sanches hype, he is just all over the place as a midfielder and so injury prone it’s unreal, he had an ok tournament but hasn’t really done much in the years preceding that (Lille won the title in spite of him, not because! ) and I absolutely agree with you that Tielemans is lazy as **** The odd long range goal isn’t enough to sway me as he doesn’t do enough, it’s a good job he plays alongside Ndidi or he’d get found out.
12.) 28 Jul 2021 21:57:39
Thank you Ed002. Jones has come through and stepped up, hopefully he will continue to progress and I can see him being an excellent option for midfield. Still loads of time on his side.
13 Sep 2019 16:35:08
I was having a debate with a SPURS fan at work today. He was looking forward to when Pep and Klopp will move on in the next 2-3 years as he thinks they will then take over as the top team.
Anyway, it got me thinking about how you see a manager move from a club and he takes a lot of staff with him or the new man coming in gets rid of them.
Do you think that the set up we currently has is like that or do you think that it is moving towards the old days where pretty much it is only the manager moving on?
I think the set up we have is great and obviously one day Klopp will leave, but it would be a shame if the rest isn't kept in place for the next guy to come in and just take over from where Klopp left off (with maybe a tweak or two) .
What does everyone think?
1.) 13 Sep 2019 17:16:39
If it was easy as that, it would be a great idea, but what separates the great from the good is that ‘x factor’ that not many managers have. Of course, they also must be good managers in the conventional sense with tactics, training and all that stuff, but for intangible reasons it would be impossible to have a ‘Klopp team’ without Klopp himself. He caries around that infectious aura that makes people want to do better, try harder and generally give their absolute maximum. Am not sure exactly how important that is to the teams results, but it’s possible that without his character, we wouldn’t be doing quite so well.
It will be interesting to see how long it takes the team to lose that mentality when (and I truly dread the day) he does leave.
2.) 13 Sep 2019 21:42:33
Brilliant post, Nick. I remember Mou after the Barcelona Remontada on BEIN Sport, saying that that result was all about Klopp. He said it had nothing to do with schemes, tactics, formations etc. That it was more about belief, determination, never giving up and all the stuff that Klopp possesses as a person and how that makes players want to exceed their limits just for him. Will another manager be able to do that even if Pep Ljinders (his trusted assistant) got the job? Very interesting indeed.
3.) 13 Sep 2019 23:36:49
I see Pochetinno leaving before either Klopp's or Guardiola's 2-3 years. And it's not a given that his successor will be better than Poch and make it first to the finish line. He's been at Spurs for 4 years now with the club stuck in a top 4 position with not much confidence for improvement. I think the calls from La Liga will be too strong to ignore.
4.) 15 Sep 2019 04:10:45
Spot on ArAy1969. I don't have any sources or anything but I expect Pochettino to leave at the end of this season.
05 Dec 2018 22:56:14
The only downside to the game tonight is the injury to Gomez. Anyone know why he was played out of position again? Was it to give Trent a rest? If he played his usual (and best position) he doesn't get injured there as he wouldn't have been in that position.
Saying that though, the way Burnley were kicking anything that moved, I'm surprised more players weren't injured.
Both Moreno and Keita were lucky to escape injury from studs over the top of the ball challenges.
Also, any clue as to what Dyche was having a Gk at.
1.) 06 Dec 2018 01:21:30
And if my grandma had wheels she would be a bicycle.
You can’t make crazy claims like that my man. Could of broke his neck at cb after a sky diver landed on him for all fate knows.
2.) 06 Dec 2018 04:29:41
Im not sure gomez playing a right back is 'out of position'. He played a lot there last season and did very well. I think klopp just prefers him there to clyne as back up and so rotates. I guess there is ana argument that he is actually a better defender there than trent althoigh i do think trent offers more going forwards. Maybe this is why klopp has played him there on occasions.
I do think he'll be a big miss though as i think he's been great as a cb this season and is learning so much alongside vvd.
3.) 06 Dec 2018 05:13:10
Could have, would have, should have.
So to speak ðŸ˜.
4.) 06 Dec 2018 10:48:32
The Juicer, nicely put, standards are important!
5.) 06 Dec 2018 13:16:55
Yes i noticed that too, Dyche was furious at Klopp and did not want to wait to talk to him, rather started saying something and started to walk. Klopp looked surprised. I think at half time Klopp might have complained to the ref about all those flying tackles and may be the ref asked burnley players to calm down. The tackle on Moreno could have been a red as the foot was high enough to hit him on his ankles.
Correct me if im wrong Eds or someone else.
21 Oct 2018 07:42:44
There's been a lot written about our change in style (so far this season) . Is it world cup hangover? Lack of pressing to try and not knacker the squad for the end of season run-in?, Buvac leaving?, Tighten up at the back has had an effect on the attacking play? Or just plain and simple waiting for the team to click?
I think it's probably a mixture of all points and I'm glad we are joint top of the table while all this is going on, as it continues the hope. Hope that it will click and we turn on the style like so many games over the last few seasons. Hope that we will still be in the fight for the top spot in the last few weeks of the season. Hope that we might even be able to win it.
I used to love watching our games as 9 times out of 10 we would just outscore our leaky defence to win. It was great watching although the defence was always a concern.
Now watching the games I have a confidence about the defence and know we will more than likely score the goal needed to win.
Definitely not as exciting but hopefully more rewarding come the end of the season. Plus, if things do click, boy are we in for a better year than last year.
My only fear is I remember a season start under Hotelier. We went something like 10/ 11 games unbeaten (quite a few draws) and I think we were playing Middlesboro next. Everyone was saying the same as now. once it clicks we're going to win everything etc etc. However, we failed to beat them, results got worse, nothing clicked and I think that was his last season.
Not saying the same will happen, just that we can only hope that it all clicks and hope that we stay in with a shout until it does.
1.) 21 Oct 2018 09:21:58
I remember that season Red All Over, we won the first ten games and were 7 points clear of, I think, Arsenal (only remember because Rooney scored that mad debut goal for Everton against them) . We then crumbled against Middlesborough and proceeded to perform horribly for the next however many months. I do think there was a lot of fragility in that team though, and a distinct lack of quality in key areas - most importantly at that time we won when playing relatively well but were awful when we didn't, and when the opposition where up for it.
The current incumbents seem far more able to grind out results, at least this season, irrespective of their form or opposition. How long it can continue for is the question though - can we just continue to grind out result after result? Or is the quality going to have to come to the fore at some point?
2.) 21 Oct 2018 13:24:31
OP, Ed01 has said the reason why our style of play has changed and it has NOTHING to do with Buvac who IMO, is being made out to be this type of influential genius, something I highly doubt he is or ever was. As for any parallels to Houillier's team, we have a better team than his by far and secondly, we have a much better manager and if anyone thinks "we will win everything when we start clicking" then they are living in Cloud Cookoo Land. You have to earn the right to compete in EVERY PL game and if you don't do that, you will get what you deserve, just like Houllier's side did.
30 May 2018 17:06:59
I'm loving the midfield upgrades and the other rumours of potential signings.
However, is anyone else concerned that with the amount we will probably end up shelling out by the end of the window, that we could possibly take the money supposedly going to be offered for Salah?
I hope he stays, but with the stadium upgrading, debt, plus recent purchases (Naby, VVD and Fab) we must be getting close to the FFP line.
I know the PL money and CL run money will help, I'm just a little concerned.
{Ed002's Note - VvD was in a different year to the others but Liverpool did make an additional payment for Nobby last season.}
1.) 30 May 2018 17:44:29
Not 100% sure maybe ed002 can help out but stadium costs alongside youth/ community development costs are mostly separate from FFP. As investment in infrastructure doesn't count towards FFP.
Also the transfer fees won't all be paid at once and there will be some outgoings, I don't expect any of the outgoings to be massive money but the money received from Coutinho, the premier league and champions league alongside the expected sales of Sturridge, Origi?, Markovic, Grujic?, Can's wages, Ings, Mignolet, Clyne, Flanagan Lallana? and perhaps a few fringe youths like Chirivella and Ojo etc will help soften the blow.
I imagine we will be ok in the short/ medium term if we continue to qualify for champions league.
{Ed002's Note - Any infrastructure costs are excluded from the FFP calculation but obviously the costs still have to be met.
Transfer fees can be spread over a period or paid at one. Liverpool's Coutinho income so far is only €24M whereas due to the illegal approaches the club has already had to pay £70M of the fee for VvD plus £6M signing on fee to the player and £13M to his agent. They had to make an additional payment for Keita which was not insignificant in cash last year as well.}
2.) 30 May 2018 18:43:56
YIKES, Ed. That is some serious cash for the agent.
{Ed002's Note - Higher than most, but if you cheat and get caught and chance at negotiating goes down the pan. The fee was also £15M more that Southampton were looking for from the other two interested sides. The season before the one just finished saw Liverpool top the table at about £27M in agent fees alone. Not to forget the £.5M that Liverpool paid the FA for VvD as well.}
3.) 30 May 2018 19:01:17
£13M to the agent - wow. I'm in the wrong business.
4.) 30 May 2018 19:07:35
Jesus, I didn’t realise the agents got so much money out of a move, more then twice what the player received as a bonus that’s madness. No wonder agents push for moves with high profile players. Something needs to be done about a cap on agent fees surely.
{Ed025's Note - mino raiola got £42m from the deal that seen pogba go from juventus to united mick..
5.) 30 May 2018 19:16:25
Just to clarify ed002, the VVD transfer amount was paid to Southampton in one installment? No less than we deserve tbh after tapping the player up.
{Ed002's Note - Yes, £70M of the fee was paid.}
6.) 30 May 2018 19:21:06
Wow. Just wow. How can one become an agent? I'm not too old to start a new career.
{Ed025's Note - first you turn into a leech...
7.) 30 May 2018 19:35:48
£42 million on one transfer not to mention the other clients he has on his books and there I thought it was the footballers making all the money.
Im with you guys, Ed25 where do I sign up to become an agent?
{Ed025's Note - im afraid thats footballs biggest problem alonso, people who are non-productive taking all the money out of the game mate..
8.) 30 May 2018 20:37:16
this may be a stupid question but do you think any of the financial burden would of gone on Klopp for doing any of this in the first place?
9.) 31 May 2018 07:17:58
I had a chat with Mino once during a corporate event in Milan. Out of curiosity I asked what an agent does to earn such a high amount of money and his reply (after a lot of talk around the houses) was that he can convince any player to go anywhere.
I asked how often a players career is considered the top priority when talking of potential transfers and he said everytime. I followed up by asking what about when the best move for his career pays less than the highest financial move and he said he would always push the player towards the more lucrative move.
He added that even though he nearly always stood to benefit from that move its actually to insulate the player against low quality of life after football as many players don't earn enough in their career to support themselves after it ends.
The whole chat was very interesting and I could see why players listen to him, though I don't think he is as altruistic as he does.
Just an interesting anecdote for yiu all.
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10 Aug 2023 12:02:13
Could be, Jota.
Just the way that it is playing out with the limited information from various sources suggests it is total value of the deal only.
We didn't do anything for a year due to waiting for Bellingham then turned around and said he's too expensive. Yes he was, but we also could have bought him when he went abroad the first time but decided he was too much of a risk.
I'm not saying Lavia will turn out this way, but young midfield prospects seem to have certain value. There are obviously enough good attributes to suggest there is a great player in there and one that Klopp will be able to work with. He also fills a position that we now need to fill urgently.
I know Nett spend isn't all you can focus on, but when ours is so small especially over the whole period that Klopp has been here, it is a miracle he has had us achieving so much.
Now that a rebuild is required, the main factor is that we keep Klopp (at the moment) . Not saying he will walk, but you wouldn't be surprised if he came out said goodbye in the near future. Not saying that Lavia will be the reason, just maybe the final straw.
If it is just £2m-£3m then spend it. If it is also the payment structure, all info seems to suggest that a total package that guarantees £50m will get the signing done. Why mess about with silly add-ons rather that guaranteed add-ons to get the deal over the line.
We obviously have to see how this plays out one way or another. It's just frustrating!
10 Aug 2023 10:54:22
When you are talking about multi-billion pound valuations of clubs and spending 10's or 100's of millions on players (whether singularly or for multiple players), to be apart in your valuation by £2m-£3m can be classed as penny-pinching. It is a label for a style of how you do business and it isn't a good look, especially when you know what the other club want and you have decided that this is the player you want. If you're going to offer £45m-£48m and lose out on your target for the sake of 5 times less than the value that you got for a player you were lucky to not have to let leave on a free transfer or let him run down his contract on vast wages - you have already saved much more than the £2m-£3m extra to fill a position we now desperately need filling.
Common Sense really when you think about it MK.
10 Aug 2023 09:48:13
I know some will say that Lavia is not worth £50m. That may be true, but that is what Southampton value him at and do not have to let him leave if the buying team does not meet that valuation.
We clearly want him and are not that far apart (supposedly) on what they want compared to what we are offering to pay.
It's going to look ridiculous to miss out on him for the sake of £2m-£3m, especially when we got £10m more than what most thought Hendo was worth and probably £25m more than Fab was worth (considering how both looked like their legs had gone for about the last 18 months or so) .
Klopp wanted all transfers in before the season started, yet pre-season is over and we're still penny pinching for the area we desperately need an addition for.
Klopp isn't protecting FSG, but what he has achieved has helped mask the issues with player investment - especially if we actually want to be successful.
There are now rumours that he might walk next summer due to the continued lack of player investment.
We will lose more than the £2m-£3m if he does go. Surely it is worth paying the Lavia fee rather than this continued messing about?
31 Oct 2018 14:47:30
We’d really, really, really like Sadio Mane to put pen to paper on a bumper new Liverpool deal.
He’s one of our most important players, was rewarded the no.10 this summer, has bagged 18 goals in his past 30 matches and has a brilliant offensive relationship with Roberto Firmino and Mo Salah.
But while his team-mates extended their deals earlier in 2018 and are contracted to the club until 2024 and 2023 respectively, Mane has yet to sign.
James Pearce of the Echo explained during a Q&A yesterday that at the moment, there’s nothing to worry about, as the Senegalese has two and half years left to run, but did indicate that it’s a situation that could become problematic eventually.
“Sadio Mane is under contract until 2021. Liverpool made it clear towards the end of last season that they would be willing to reward his progress with a new long-term deal and preliminary talks were opened, †Pearce said.
“Clearly, those discussions have yet to reach a conclusion but Liverpool don’t seem overly concerned about the situation. Mane is clearly happy at Anfield and the Reds have a good relationship with his agent Bjorn Bezemer.
“With Mohamed Salah and Roberto Firmino having penned new long-term contracts this year, Mane is the next priority.
“If the situation remains unresolved come next summer then a degree of concern would be understandable but I don’t see it as a big issue currently. â€
We imagine the current impasse is about money, as most contract debates are. Liverpool are surely willing to make Mane one of our highest paid players, in line with Mo and Bobby, but perhaps his agent is looking for more.
Perhaps the 26-year-old can prove he’s worth it in the coming months, which we’ll be delighted with.
Mane is worth a monstrous contract, and we think he’ll eventually sign one – but having witnessed what happened with Emre Can – it’s a little frustrating.
27 Oct 2018 19:01:32
When you look at the new contracts being offered to and signed by some of the important players, it's just slightly worrying that he hasn't yet.
I mean, Gomez only signed a new contract last year and is in the process of being offered a new deal.
Firmino has signed again.
There was news that Mane had been offered a deal in the summer, but no news of it being signed yet.
RedAllOverButNotSore's banter replies
28 Nov 2020 20:21:16
I used to celebrate all Liverpool goals madly. Now I'm just waiting for the inevitable micro scrutiny of a slow-mo replay to eventually get to a decision that has no real relevance to 'clear and obvious'.
04 Jan 2019 12:58:01
I think people are referring to the midfield line-up with regards to picking the wrong players.
That midfield is not the one that has been performing so well recently.
It has a history of not creating too many opportunities for the attack and letting opposition players run off/ past them.
The fact that we came so close to getting a result in spite of it makes it slightly more frustrating as it could have been so much better.
I know fine margins were involved (hitting the post and goal-line clearances), but that selection and performance seemed to be a 'try not lose' rather than a 'lets play our normal game that has worked so well recently'.
I'm still 100% behind the team and a 4 point lead at this stage of the season with the teams that we have played is great.
05 Dec 2018 09:19:13
What I liked about Everton was that they were not afraid to try and play and didn't just try to keep 10 men behind the ball with one player up top hoping to nick a goal from somewhere.
They will play the same way against City as they did against us, so that puts them in with a chance of at least getting something from the game.
It's not like some other teams that seem to turn up and try to keep the goals against down to as little as possible.
It should be a good game.
24 Dec 2017 11:49:05
Also, we have to improve our defence. He may not have been playing at his previous levels, but he is no a brain-fart defender like Lovren, so our defence is immediately improved. He's also, quick, strong and good in the air.
Drop Mignolet (he must have a folder of naked pictures of Klopp or something to continue getting picked. If it's not by blackmail, then I have no clue what it is) and replace Lovren with VVD and the opposition gall threat I greatly reduced.
17 Sep 2017 07:27:03
Of course it isn't.
Stop trying to defend a defence that is so crap and should have been sorted out a long time ago.
The attack will have off-days.
They will also come up against good defences (even ones that don't park the bus) .
Yet every defence the attack plays against is better than ours - there can't be any denying this.
The problem with the game yesterday is that once the defence gave up it's customary goal, the attack then has to score at least twice, when under normal circumstances, only one would have done.
This creates that little bit more anxiety, urgency and maybe panic.
Shots are affected, through-balls and passed are affected.
Yes, on another day we still could have won the game had the attack taken just one more of those opportunities, but the actual situation is that they only needed to because of our own defence!
Also, we were actually lucky to not have lost with those other sloppy chances given the opposition in the closing minutes.