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17 May 2016 09:59:02
So ed's have the Karius and Zielinski deals actually been done to your knowledge? Or are we still getting ahead of ourselves a little? Thanks.

Scousedel

{Ed001's Note - getting ahead. Grujic and Matip are the only deals that have been completed for next season.}


1.) 17 May 2016 10:41:29
Haven't actually seen a concrete answer from the Eds yet as I think they weren't 100% sure yesterday, but can the Eds confirm that we've put in a bid for Karius? (or are we getting ahead of ourselves again haha)
Thanks for all the good work on this site!

P. S. I'm feeling even more jittery about the match tomorrow than my graduating final exams next week hahaha

Kopchu!

{Ed001's Note - a bid? Not as such. We have spoken to Mainz though. Bids are not thrown about the way people talk about, many deals are done without any such thing as a formal bid being presented.}


2.) 17 May 2016 10:58:32
Hi ED001. Haven't heard your thoughts on Karius. What do you think of him?

{Ed001's Note - not seen a lot of him. I have heard a lot of good things about him, but not from anyone I would trust to judge a keeper. So I have no thoughts, just going to wait and see how he gets on.}


 

 

 

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18 Apr 2017 23:09:57
Hey ed's I understand if this can't be posted but I'm intrigued to know your opinions and others on the site on the standards of refs at the top end of the game.

Scousedel

{Ed002's Note - The standard of refereeing has been acknowledged to be poor over recent years. I don't watch much football but it is often mentioned. Personally I don't think video refereeing is the answer, but an additional official linked by radio high up in the stands might well be.}


1.) 19 Apr 2017 08:00:55
Anyone who thinks referees in EPL are poor should go and watch some league 1 and 2 games. Ranges from the very rare very good through to far too many that are woeful. Mistakes that only show up from the benefit of a dozen slow mo replays are excusable but being totally inconsistent about free kicks, advantage, bookings etc ruins games. I've seen far too many games where refs and ARs have wound up the teams and fans and created the problems they then berate the players over. outside EPL right down to grass roots the better refs tend to be the younger ones.


2.) 19 Apr 2017 08:05:55
What standards are we comparing them to?
What criteria are we using?

Are we talking about accuracy of decisions or are we talking about "handling of the game"?
I think if you look at the number of decisions in a game the percentage of correct decisions is high. I think the refs are fitter these days and able to keep up with the game more. I think they are under more scrutiny these days than 20 years ago and they have more directives to follow. 20 years ago a lot was down to interpretation of the ref. Now it's all standardised by the powers that be.

If SkyTV had to show every refereeing decision in the same detail, people would be a lot more appreciative of the demands. But Sky only show the contentious decisions in minute detail.

I'm not a ref. My old man (RIP) was a ref in the good old days. I don't think he'd do it these days.
Standard of refs vs standard of players or managers or pundits? I'd take the refs over all of them.
Can they improve? Of course, but they need support to do it.


3.) 19 Apr 2017 08:20:53
Good points Ron and having slated them one thing I'd say doesn't help is most fans are contributing to the problem. Refs who don't communicate get slated and those who do get skated. The number of shouts for handball you hear every match where the definition of handball clearly doesn't apply is comical. I honestly think the 4th official also calling stuff like ARs and use of replays would help even if it just showed fans and players how crap the game would become if refs were allowed to take the time Sky pundits get to dissect every piece of play before they gave a decision.


4.) 19 Apr 2017 08:47:11
Thanks Ron. It was a good read, gave me another perspective to look at.


5.) 19 Apr 2017 09:10:06
Ron, the standard isn't high. 80%, considering how many decisions are ridiculously easy, is low. Refs, considering the importance of their job, their professionalism etc should be getting so many decision right that major incorrect decisions should be a big talking point, not a 5 minute reel per game.


6.) 19 Apr 2017 09:34:04
If you think it's easy, the simple answer is to try doing it.
How many professionals do you know who have dozens of slow mo high def TV cameras pointing at them for 90 minutes of their week with millions of people watching?

80%? Don't know where you get that number from.


7.) 19 Apr 2017 10:42:11
I'm against video refereeing, I think tend to believe that the game in the stadium should reflect the game played in the parks. Besides, who doesn't enjoy talking about contentious decisions?


8.) 19 Apr 2017 10:44:43
standards aside, the interpretations that we see in the game itself are not even consistent. a push in this game is a penalty, while another is not.

a rough lunging tackle is a yellow in a normal game, and not in derbies? just because its a derby, it doesn't mean its a game with a different rule. i understand that standards could be different, could change from year to year, following reviews and changes should be made when it is needed, for the rules to remain relevant and of course, to protect the players.

but in the game itself there must be a way for all these decisions to be at the very least, highly consistent. without videos and what not, you'd expect them to miss some and i get it. again, id like to repeat, its inconsistencies of the decision made from similar incidents in different games that bothers me. i know its difficult, but it doesn't mean we can't point that out.


9.) 19 Apr 2017 13:51:12
I'm really pleased video reffing is coming, it will allow us to focus on what's important, the game, rather than talking about refs all the time.


10.) 19 Apr 2017 14:32:08
For me it's more the case of they don't seem to be in a position where they have to explain a decision or be actually held accountable for a poor performance. They have few repercussions if they make mistakes so there seems to be no incentive to improve.


11.) 19 Apr 2017 14:36:02
Ron - first of all it's an example number and you well know it, so stop being pedantic for no reason.

Secondly, no one said it was easy. Nor did I say I could do it. But I also can't build a car, doesn't mean I don't have a right to say something about my car breaking down 20 minutes after driving off the forecourt! If the job is too hard for them then they need to stop doing it, if they want to tell us they can do it then cut the excuses and do it.

Refs at the professional level are highly paid professionals, they need to be good enough to earn that and the fact that there are cameras pointing at them doesn't dissolve them of blame. They get too many major decisions wrong per game and it's having a direct influence on both the outcomes of games and the safety of players. And if they need help to do it properly, sodding well get together and campaign from the stance of experts for help! If they spent half the energy they spend moaning about a lack of respect for refs on improving their performances, the game would be in a much better state on field (although I do apprecaite the need to refs respect at a lower/ grassroots level)


12.) 19 Apr 2017 17:55:03
At least in the PL, the refs are awful. Worse, they make mistakes that are detrimental to both teams BUT that is seen as being good officiating. Awful, awful, awful.


13.) 19 Apr 2017 19:54:39
They are not highly paid in the industry they work in.
They do not get so many decisions wrong.
You are being deceived by the likes of SkyTV who only show contentious moments in contentious decisions.
Refs make thousands of decisions in a game, you just aren't aware of them.


14.) 19 Apr 2017 20:30:24
Ron did you happen to watch real Madrid v Bayern Munich last night a team went out of the quarter final of the champions league due entirely to the ref and his assistants with an outrageous sending off
and two offside goals that were not even hard to spot. this has cost Bayern millions of Euros and a possible place in the final.

In refs defence i do think since the assistant refs were given more powers they are so busy trying to spot things going on in the game than doing their job looking for off sides leaving the ref to take the blame because of a radio in his ear and they never get brought up on bad decisions like last night.


15.) 19 Apr 2017 20:55:35
If you say so Ron. But I am aware of them. And when in the name of some fictional game management they allow dangerous tackles to go unpunished right in front of them, when linesmen fail to keep up with the game and are left guessing about important offside decisions, when they have unobstructed views of handballs so ignore the rulebook and start making subjective decisions about intentions - they are not doing a good job, no matter how many minor decisions they make during a game.


16.) 19 Apr 2017 21:25:05
they should run a trial were there is a ref in each half, so keeping up with play would not be a problem, and each ref would be under less pressure .


17.) 19 Apr 2017 22:55:56
I didn't watch Madrid V Bayern so I take your word on that.
Refs are simply there to implement the laws of the game.
Players don't have to put dangerous tackles in or dive when there's no contact.
Players are very highly paid professionals who are coached by very highly paid managers to try and deliberately gain an advantage by deceiving the referee.
You blame the ref for getting it wrong, how about the players and managers take some responsibility for playing by the rules? Obviously offsides are different but these calls are made by referee assistants.

{Ed007's Note - Did you see the penalty against Celtic at the weekend, Ron? One of THE worst decisions I've ever seen at any level of football....


18.) 20 Apr 2017 00:04:34
Ron makes some very good points. Loss aversion is a basic fact of human psychology, i.e. we react far more negatively to bad outcomes than we do positively to good outcomes. It's inevitable that refs get slated for poor decisions and we overlook the many good decisions they make.


19.) 20 Apr 2017 06:41:45
All 2 refs on the pitch will do is create a higher chance of inconsistency. And when i mentioned that lack of consistency before I meant in the same game from the same ref. Doesn't help that the view is if they're a poor ref then drop them down a level cos the leagues below the EPL don't need good refs. The standards need to be set across the leagues.


20.) 20 Apr 2017 10:46:52
Wow, that is a woeful ref in that Celtic game no contact at all what a joke.


 

 

30 Dec 2016 15:46:17
Just wondering if anyone can tell me if James Milner has actually changed his opinion on playing in the left back role? Or is he still unsettled about it? Given the amount of grief he got from fans and a few of us on here, he has become a important member of the squad. I'm happy to be proved wrong.

Scousedel

1.) 30 Dec 2016 22:36:58
He is a very well payed player who shouldn't complain if he's in midfield up front left back or even in goal he is wearing that famous red shirt that I'm sure he is proud to be wearing, just look at how well he has performed since settling into left back that guy deserves some credit just for a bit of a moral boost and maybe might improve in that position even more, I mean who else is out there at the moment that can do the job to the level he has this season?

The guy can play anywhere because he can read the game and these days that's a rare commodity in the modern game it's the difference between good players and great all round players.


 

 

22 Dec 2016 20:35:46
Short Estonian documentary on Ragnar Klavan. It's in Estonian but has English subtitles. I found it really interesting, he seems genuinely happy to be at Liverpool and has a great work ethic. Although he seems to admit that Klopp got in his ear a little, hope it doesn't cause any more issues for us.

Scousedel

1.) 23 Dec 2016 11:53:09
Nice one, thanks for posting. Couldn't see any problems there at all. Cheers.


 

 

02 Oct 2016 15:47:06
Ed001 if you get a moment could you share your opinion on Bravo at city? The reason I post on this page is cause from what I have watched he seems to have worse distribution than Migs. Do you think it's a confidence issue or pressure or just a poor buy? I don't rate Hart in fairness but Bravo doesn't seem like a step up.

Scousedel

{Ed001's Note - he is just struggling to adapt, he is normally very good with his feet. In Spanish football you don't get put under the same pressure as a keeper, so it is a major culture shock for him. De Gea struggled with the same issue early on. The only question is whether he is too old to be able to adapt now.}


1.) 02 Oct 2016 16:03:10
Completely agree with De Gea, but wasn't his issue with his strength? I don't feel that Bravo is going to adapt myself, he looks defeated already. As a side, hope the move went well and Spain is treating you well.


2.) 02 Oct 2016 16:18:19
It doesn't help that because of the deal been made of the situation, that he is getting put under increased pressure from players and fans. Every time he gets the ball, the whole opposing croud taunt him, which raises his nerves and helps the closing down player. Any mistake or long ball would be met with jeers.


3.) 02 Oct 2016 16:19:25
I personally can't see him adapting here, though I do think it's a little to early to judge.


4.) 02 Oct 2016 18:01:40
He is on the verge of World Class in which position? Do you mean as the most centre of the 3 strikers/ attacker? He will probably never score at the same rate as Suarez/ Neymar/ CRon/ Messi. his game is not really about that. But if he is getting on for 1 goal every 2 games, he is right up there in world football as a attacker.


5.) 03 Oct 2016 06:08:37
Im not so sure iconicred, i still think he's better off in goal.


6.) 03 Oct 2016 09:17:39
EPl is just too fast for him?


7.) 03 Oct 2016 15:01:13
Ed if it`s a culture shock for him, isn`t it then Pep`s job to protect him by not asking him to do the whole passing thing from the back at least for right now because heavens, they guy looks a bag of nerves with the ball at his feet and the fans on his back whenever the pressure is on?

{Ed001's Note - I would say the manager needs to help him somehow, but maybe he just wants to let him play through it.}


 

 

10 May 2016 14:03:12
Just donated, not much but hope it can be put to use anyway! Pretty shocked you didn't expect us to rally around Ed001, especially after keeping this free for so long and all the valuable information we get from here and on top of that us kopites look after our own! YNWA!

Scousedel

{Ed001's Note - thank you and it is just that I am not good with asking, I was always told those that ask don't get. Mind I was also told that those that don't ask, don't want.....}


1.) 10 May 2016 14:18:51
Yeah, I was told the same thing. Used to live by it until I was 12 and then I wanted a PlayStation haha! I've seen a few suggestions of a donation button and I would be cool with that. Or even a subscription for people who want to post and use the site for discussions and the community aspects, your either going to weed out the trolls and abuse or you will at least make them pay for the privilege! Good luck though Ed001 really hope this ends how you want it to.

{Ed001's Note - thank you mate.}


2.) 10 May 2016 14:21:48
Hi Ed01,

Tried to donate many times and it is saying my card is blocked for some reason. Not sure that link will accept donation from India.

However wishing you a happy and successful married life and hope you settle very well in Spain.

Cheers,
SamiKewell.

{Ed001's Note - thank you mate it is appreciated that you tried.}


3.) 10 May 2016 18:53:49
Eds wishing u the best of luck mate. I'm sorry this just the wrong point in my life to help u out, getting married myself in a couple of months so it's only moral support I can offer you right now. Hope you get everything sorted out soon without any problems. Ynwa mate and this has just proved that.

{Ed001's Note - just make sure your day goes off well. Thank you for the best wishes and the best of luck.}


 

 

 

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24 Mar 2017 04:56:59
I would guess that the reason we get tarred with the tapping up brush is because unfortunately we are well renowned for tapping up players. I recall off the top of my head Fulham making us grovel so they didn't make an official complaint over Clint Dempsey and there have been numerous examples since. Our name is mud now due to us lowballing teams and our general acting like we are better than everyone else when to be honest we don't sit at the big boy table of European clubs anymore. Not when it comes to big decision making anyway.

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20 Mar 2017 22:29:39
Thanks for the reply Ed002. Was I right in remembering he was close to leaving at one point? Did we speak to him? Or is it just wishful thinking on my part?

Scousedel

{Ed002's Note - Everton were, not Liverpool. Real Madrid and PSG were the others.}


 

 

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20 Mar 2017 22:17:46
I think we should have gone all out and pushed for the bloke at Sevilla. Monchi I think? I think he was going to leave at one point for a new challenge if I remember rightly and his work speaks for itself.

Scousedel

{Ed002's Note - Monchi would be a great choice but I would expect Klopp to walk if he came. Monchi understands the game, youngster, the transfer process and how to ease players through at the right time - he is in that way the absolute opposite of Klopp.}


 

 

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22 Dec 2016 19:42:58
Didn't he say as soon as he signed we didn't need to worry about him going to the AFCON because he wanted to establish himself and settle at Liverpool first otherwise the move would be pointless. I for one feel it's commendable that the player wants to put us first.

Scousedel

 

 

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12 Dec 2016 19:28:56
As a side Ed002, given the response to the above do you think it's pretty much assured that Coutinho and Firmino will go in the summer? I get the feeling there could be bids in January for them given they are eligible for Champions League football.

Scousedel

{Ed002's Note - I don't see either leaving in January.}


 

 

 

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04 May 2017 08:29:38
Ed002 I'm not sure if you thought I was on about his second stint in charge or not? As I meant tenure during the 1990's if I'm wrong still then my apologies.

Scousedel

{Ed002's Note - Ok.}


 

 

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03 May 2017 21:55:06
Wasn't the reason he stood down as player manager due to the Hillsborough events finally getting on top of him and he needed a break? The man comes calling for our club without question, he let his name be dragged through the mud to protect players and was treated like dirt by others but still stood alongside them to show a united front cause he felt that was best for us. He shouldn't just have the key to the city, he should have the key, bed, and possibly wife of every Liverpool fan for what he has done. We were lucky to have him and even luckier to have him love our club as much as he does.

Scousedel

{Ed002's Note - No. It has been dealt with over and over and I explained that very day.}


 

 

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26 Apr 2017 15:33:57
I never get the ungrateful attitude of some people on here, as a long term reader and occasional poster on the site (back to when Harry was called Harry! ) and when macca had his own page. The site was about debate, discussion and getting information that we had no right having. We learnt quickly that Ed002 treated idiots and the ignorant with the deserved contempt and people with genuine questions and debate with respect and participated with the suitable retort. So don't complain when you post abuse or act like we have a right to this information and get a response that you don't like in return. If you get asked to use the search engine then use it, if you get asked to check another site then check it. Any information we get is a bonus, try checking the other pages when the ed's stop posting anything of value. Everyone gets apologetic very quick.

Scousedel

 

 

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26 Apr 2017 08:31:32
Ed001 you implying that Sam tried to get the Liverpool job at one point? I always got the impression that he disliked Liverpool.

Scousedel

{Ed001's Note - what? No. Where on earth did you get that idea from?}


 

 

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19 Apr 2017 14:32:08
For me it's more the case of they don't seem to be in a position where they have to explain a decision or be actually held accountable for a poor performance. They have few repercussions if they make mistakes so there seems to be no incentive to improve.

Scousedel