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26 Sep 2016 11:15:28
Talking on sky now of Liverpool could be better if we were spending more money because we were 7th highest spenders in the summer. Love how they ignore years of spending well over 100million and still having 50 odd players in our squad.

ShaneK_LFC

1.) 26 Sep 2016 12:19:22
Ya but is not 100 million if your selling 75mil player or a 50mil player.


2.) 26 Sep 2016 12:21:39
Why anyone watches that rubbish I don't know.


3.) 26 Sep 2016 13:45:42
Why wouldn't we? It's good, entertaining, and informative. Sheds light between the real stories and the crap you read on Facebook pages. Plus they where talking very positively about Liverpool and said, imagine if Juergen klopp had spent the same amount as the other big clubs how much better Liverpool would be doing compared to the likes of city. They where complementing us for being at the same standard without having to spend rediculous amounts.


4.) 26 Sep 2016 15:22:04
Spending more money wouldn't have made any difference, it's about getting the right players in, not the most expensive ones.


5.) 26 Sep 2016 15:52:30
It isn't really about how much a player cost, but if he fits to how you play and does he improve the team. Carol and Mane cost near the same amount but you can see the difference on the pitch. Matip was free, karious relatively cheap, and same with both couts and sturridge.

Alternatively Bony cost city a fortune, Torres ŵas a record signing, and di maria was near world record signing. All good players but didn't fit how the teams play.


6.) 26 Sep 2016 20:09:13
They actually showed that Klopp is 9m in profit since he came to Liverpool.


7.) 26 Sep 2016 22:30:38
Couldn't agree more mikey.


8.) 26 Sep 2016 23:13:24
If it is about spending less and achieving more than nobody does it than messr wenger and arsenal. They been doing it year in year out. Only recently wenger went on splurge.


9.) 27 Sep 2016 02:45:30
Arsenals wage bill is about 30 million quid a year higher than Liverpool's.


10.) 27 Sep 2016 05:23:41
This is why ed002 tells us to forget about the money. We haven't got a clue. 😄
In reality, I'm sure LFC are not 'in profit' since Klopp arrived.


11.) 27 Sep 2016 02:43:08
Ed02 has said we did not make a profit.


12.) 29 Sep 2016 21:37:41
I never understand why people talk about net spend, regardless of the amount you sell for, the amount you buy the players for remains, how much you get for a player has no bearing on the players you bring in, I'll never understand why there's a focus on net spend when justifying transfers.


13.) 01 Oct 2016 02:40:13
Let's not forget the other fees involved in transfers either. Signing, legal etc. Plus wages, bonuses etc. The transfer fees are just a headline figure.


 

 

10 Dec 2015 16:33:33
Ed001 I was just wondering if you have heard from anything from someone in around the club about klopps and the clubs thoughts on benteke. I've heard so many opinions from pundits mates people on here etc. But bar a few words after games and the likes haven't really heard anything overly positive or negative towards him from the club.
Or anyone else that has an insight please share! Squaretomatoe if you're about try even get Gomez' opinion! Haven't heard anything about him in a while back either so hopefully his recovery is going well!

ShaneK_LFC

{Ed001's Note - he dropped him for big games, that is all you need to know of what he thinks about him. Benteke needs to convince him that he is the right man to lead the line, but he is not doing so.}


1.) 10 Dec 2015 17:14:31
I was more along the lines of he was still coming back to fitness and was easing him back. I still remain hopeful though as I really think with a solid run of games he could really hit form shame that at the mo is every game is quite vital.

{Ed001's Note - he was fit but left out.}


2.) 10 Dec 2015 21:28:31
I said last season befor we signed benteke he's not what we need and didn't see why we wanted him and everyone told me he's amazing. No doubt he's got something but for me he doesn't fit us. i would rather see ings up top. I wouldn't mind benteke coming good as it means for once we haven't waisted loads of money but he just doesn't fit into how we play.


3.) 10 Dec 2015 22:49:29
I'd say it was more his attitude than his ability to fit in. just my opinion of what I have seen so far from him.


4.) 10 Dec 2015 22:54:10
He still has a place. Great impact sub, and he should have more use in a games where we have more possession and not much space. Firmino or Sturridge are definitely the better choice in bigger games.


5.) 10 Dec 2015 23:01:47
From a purely "our style of play", Ings and Origi are better any day of the week (Sturridge included, when he's willing to play) . Not slating Benteke, but just don't see crosses coming in to him for various reasons. And i don't see him scoring goals other than through crosses. He's simply not gelling with Firmino and Lallana.


6.) 10 Dec 2015 23:04:33
So 32m for an impact sub . Money well spent again. I don't doubt that in the right team and system he would be a good player I just unfortunately don't think that it is with us . Hope he proves me wrong but he takes away the best qualities of firmino coutinho etc with his lack of movement.


7.) 11 Dec 2015 00:17:58
Agree squizza, IMO we mistakenly persevered with big men under Rogers due to him trying to reform the side into a 4-3-3 (Balo, Lambert, Benteke) however what we really needed was a Lacazette, Aubemeyang type player to replace Suarez.

I don't mind having a big man in the squad as a plan B option, but with Sturridge struggling for fitness we need our backup to be able to fit Klopp's high energy system otherwise we'll struggle to find any sort of consistency or style. We need Benteke to adapt quickly.

Ings must be doubly kicking himself. Such a shame he got injured!


8.) 11 Dec 2015 05:20:55
Bang on with this post again, Zimbo.

I don't mind Benteke as an impact sub, to mix things up.

But our best attack, is when we keep the ball on the floor, and play it out the back and through the middle; triangles, pressing, counter-pressing.

I'm literally going to jump off a peer if I have to read another opinion piece from some 1980s era player claiming we need to "service" Benteke and "play to his strengths" by crossing in balls from out wide.

May as well sell Coutinho now, and get it over with.


9.) 11 Dec 2015 09:06:32
If you look it up, there are videos of Benteke showing great movement, so I think he is capable. When we bought him there were no established, seasoned strikers available, really. Lots of teams had issues in signing strikers. Look at United paying over the odds for Martial - maybe that will work out better for them than Benteke will for us but at the time we all had a good laugh.

We all know how we struggled last season without enough goal scorers, and how players like Sterling were slotted in to play that role. I think Benteke was a gamble that may or may not yet pay off.

In the lead up to him signing, there were voices of dissent, and concern chiefly over his motivation and disinclination to run. Watching him now, he looks out of his depth in some ways, but that may be because the fast paced style requiring him to run doesn't suit him. That said there have been some great moments and some cracking goals.

Maybe he will adjust, maybe we will take a £15m loss when he moves on. Time will tell. Like many on here, I am hoping for the best but am reserving judgement.


10.) 11 Dec 2015 09:32:25
This whole idea of "impact sub that offers something different" never works and doesn't exist. What people seem to fail to realise is that if you purchase and play a striker that does not fit in with the already established system, ie pressing counter attacking, then that means your are going to have to run training sessions throughout the week to inform the team how you want them to play when one individual player is introduced. This means trying to coach a team on two completely different systems week in week out which just doesn't work.

There are other nock on effects as well as you've also got to buy other enabling players to incorporate that individual striker, ie traditional wingers to cross (we only have Ibe) . Just lumping on benteke into a 4-3-3 with either lallana, Coutinhou, firmino, sturridge or Ings wouldn't work as there would be no service. This is exactly what we're seeing now, what we saw with lambert and also carrol.

Its good to have different options but these need to be able to play in the already established system. Having a striker that requires a completely different set up and system just doesn't work and never will!


11.) 11 Dec 2015 10:01:00
A few years ago we were moaning that we could it mix it up, now we have that options we are moaning again. I didn't just say he was in impact sub, but we can't always break down teams that sit deep and try and hit us on the counter, benteke would be a better option for these games than firmino up front.


12.) 11 Dec 2015 15:06:20
Benteke has a goal record of one in 2.
An incredible record, but, as I mentioned before he signed, he will probably score you 5 goals in 2 games and then go 8 games without a goal and without really looking a threat.
Looks like he is still repeating the same trick at LFC.


13.) 11 Dec 2015 18:01:29
Does anyone have an idea about what will happen with Balotelli? Will we sell at the end of his loan or will Klopp want to check him out?
Under Klopp he may better or not, I know he has attitude problems etc and I am not saying I want him back or not - it is simply a fact we still own him.
Eds do you know anything about the plans for him?

{Ed001's Note - he is up for sale.}


14.) 12 Dec 2015 07:14:15
Thank you Ed001.

{Ed001's Note - you are welcome.}


15.) 12 Dec 2015 12:08:54
Ed what's your opinion on ings, providing he comes back from the injury as the same player so to speak, would you see him as the main striker, personally I think he will be great for us.

{Ed001's Note - not main no. Works hard, was growing into the team but he is not that top class striker like Sturridge is.}


16.) 12 Dec 2015 12:32:02
Cheers mate.


 

 

12 Sep 2015 09:00:02
Hey think this could be one for ed002 if you don't want to answer/get into it I completely understand and no need to post if you don't feel either!
Well with all the commercialism in football now and new tv deal etc I was wondering what the future holds and do you see in the future clubs essentially privatizing broadcasting of games? Especially if the European league breaks out or would this go against whatever regulations are in place? I know barca and Madrid are the famous examples of negotiating their own deal but could we see the day for example where lfc tv have the sole broadcasting rights to Liverpool games and a subscription/ pay per view model put in place?

Secondly if the above is not feasible as I feel it probably wouldn't be what would happen in terms of broadcasting were a European league to break out. Would all clubs negotiate privately ala Madrid and Barcelona or would their again be fixed broadcasting in place or is this a bridge that will be crossed closer to the time?
Finally is there a large disparity between deals barca and Madrid have in place and the new premier league tv deal or is this gap being closed?
Sorry again if you don't want to get into!
Regards, Shane

ShaneK_LFC

{Ed002's Note - Here you go Shane. We will put it on the transfer page as the rest of the Liverpool posts will be likely going to the "Other" page again today.

(1) To some extent this would be dependent on when the pan-European League happens. At a recent meeting in Monaco a proposal by two clubs to begin in 2018 only received support from one other side – the others in general voted against it with either one or two abstaining. This though may simply have been posturing as they look to a more realistic date of 2022. Because of the World Cup and the general mess with high-end sponsors related to the WC and on-going issues at FIFA, the original pencilled in date of 2027 is back on the table. There will be a couple more meetings this season. A date has been set in April and I rather suspect that the clubs involved in these discussions will look for another meeting in mid-December. Do not under estimate the value of foreign television money to the European leagues.

(2) There is every likelihood that the big money from television, other media, sponsorship etc. would go with a breakaway league. It would completely rupture the operations of UEFA and I would expect it would require national associations like the FA to restructure their leagues. Nobody wants this but it is the eventual consequence I would expect. As a result there would certainly be a step change in the way clubs capture their media income. Two EPL clubs (Arsenal and Liverpool) have already investigated, and probably continue to investigate, the streaming type options for games. Whilst they cannot do it in real-time right now, in the future the chance may well be there to do that. Both clubs have media exploitation expertise within their existing senior management structures – but both will also be aware of the damage being done to the clubs by the illegal “free” internet providers. So in the longer term, I would think that there will be more options to watch games live – either through existing/revised media deals or through the clubs providing that service themselves. In all probability it would be far more cost effective and beneficial to do it through the likes of a television company, perhaps as a partner. Clubs on their own do not have the broadcast capabilities, nor equipment and facilities necessary to do this easily on their own and it would seem likely they would seek a media partner rather than go in to the broadcasting business.

(3) The television deals in Spain have been renegotiated and eventually if nothing changes then the gap between what Real Madrid and Barcelona have in income and the English sides will disappear. However, regardless of the new agreement kicking in during next season in Spain, there is a caveat that means all sides will earn at least what they did last season (it might be this season, I would need to check) for six more seasons – this was reluctantly accepted by the other clubs simply to push through the deal. However, the only clubs protected by it are the only two that would potentially lose money – Real Madrid and Barcelona.

(4) Meetings have been held including representatives of the French FFF and Spanish RFEF to discuss their concerns over the new EPL television deal and the deal Real Madrid and Barcelona has in Spain. They approached UEFA with a view to capping TV/media income in the same way as commercial sponsorship for the purposes of FFP. No resolution is in place. This upsets EPL clubs, Real Madrid and Barcelona. The others will get support from other nations such as Germany and the Netherlands should they ask for it – and even Italy which has the second highest income but a rupturing financial structure for all but 6 or 8 sides. The further complication relates to what happens when the breakaway clubs run for the pan-European league. The Spanish club know that opens up the Real Madrid and Barcelona second string sides to La Liga - so they want assurances that they can only use the extant stadia, and not the main stadia, and the television rights will then be shared equally - regardless (the agreed plan right now is not dissimilar to the English deal for their National income which are divided (1) 50% equally between clubs, (2) 25% for those clubs hosting live matches, (3) 25% based on performance (league position). The international broadcast monies are divided (3) 100% equally between the clubs.. This has been raised in a meeting of the breakaway sides in Monte Carlo last year with UEFA present and an unbiased journalist sat in to moderate - at the agreement of all parties. It remains partially resolved only.

From this you may just be able to figure out the names of the two clubs looking to accelerate the pan-European league breakaway.

I hope this helps.}


 

 

26 Jul 2014 08:40:29
I'm not one for rumours but here we go I have one this morning!
I was in the car going to the shop for milk just there when I stopped at the lights.

Some builders were making a proper cycle lane but one of them saw all the Liverpool stuff around the car.

He came over going "waheyyyyy what happened last year mate? Now we've got the second coming with Sanchez"! Then he started yelling "gooners" over and over.

Then however he goes "still snapping you're getting the Nancy boy from Dortmund with the stupid hair" "'reus?" Says me "aye yeah he'll be there by the end of next week"

So I just drove off lights had been green for a while at this point sure!

Make of it what you will wether you trust a bald gooner or not is up to you ;)

ShaneK_LFC

1.) Yay a rumour! I don't believe it but at least its a rumour. Its a rumours site mate, just make stuff up and post it. Makes a change from question time for the eds


2.) 26 Jul 2014 10:41:12
Coutinho needs some competition for this year's Raul Meireles Horrible Haircut trophy


3.) True or not this is a boss rumour


4.) And the moral of this story is don't trust a bald builder.


5.) Obviously this is not a legitimate rumor although it is based on a true story (I actually went to the shop for bread).

I was just soo bored with no rumors so thought this might inspire some!


6.) Brilliant!


7.) All rumours are legitimate, just some are less reliable than others. This is no less reliable than 90% of those twitter rumours!


 

 

06 Jul 2014 20:36:46
O jogo now saying markovic will undergo a medical this week. this story really picking up life. hope he does well if we do sign him. as I've said I'm not to sure on him!

ShaneK_LFC

1.) Jesus you better tell Brendon quick mate


2.) Not to sure what you're implying there mate? I'm entitled to an opinion on a player I haven't slated him like most do here with players and I've said I'll gladly support him and hope for the best but just think he's a bit of a risk.


 

 

 

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25 Jul 2017 08:37:17
Wrote a lil diddle looking for people's opinions.
Written to Jimmy's winning matches which hopefully people will know from donegals run to the all Ireland few years back!

He's came from Germany, out to the Mersey
And he's going to win the title just you wait and see
Cuz we'll beat City men we'll beat Chelsea men
We'll beat anyone that stops us on our title run

Chorus:
It's destiny it's not just written in the sand
He's got a plan yes he's no lucky lucky man

Ohh klopp is winning matches
Klopp is winning games
Klopp is going to bring us back to the top again


Ohh klopp is winning matches
Klopp is winning games
Klopp is going to bring us back to them glory days


He's not from Italy he's from Germany
And if you want the best players he's the man to see
Cuz we got coutinho
We got firmino
We got salah and mane and georginio

Chorus.

We'll win the fa cup
We'll win the league cup
And if that wasn't enough we'll win the Euro Cup
Cuz we'll score more than you
We'll beat you black and blue
And you know that it's a fact that we will never lose.

Chorus and out!

ShaneK_LFC

1.) 25 Jul 2017 10:40:49
MON DONEGAL.


2.) 25 Jul 2017 10:47:26
you don't have a girlfriend do you?


 

 

24 Jul 2017 08:10:53
20 million squids for dembele off Celtic? That's about the first fair price of the summer if I'm honest. Surprised bigger sides than Marseille are not having a look at that price.

ShaneK_LFC

1.) 24 Jul 2017 09:30:58
It's a risk as he is playing in a poor standard league, Scott Sinclair is having a field day in that league!
I would say that it's about right.


2.) 24 Jul 2017 10:19:06
Sinclair would have made it in EPL too if MC hadn't stopped his development. That many goals even in SPL is impressive at an age were he will get better. If we didn't have Divock and Dom he'd be a good option. Were stacked for potential 🤞.


 

 

08 Jun 2017 07:35:05
No insider info here or anything but I think Salah will still happen. People being put off by sky reports if you read the full article it's actually comical.

We were priced out of salah for 37 million but are more than happy to pay in excess of 40 million for our next in line?

Like surely even the proofreader for sky would be like ah seriously are we actually going to run this?

ShaneK_LFC

1.) 08 Jun 2017 08:56:43
Like last season when we failed to land Zielinski for about £12m and then signed our second choice Wijnaldum for £25m?

It isn't as crazy as it seems mate. Players may be first choice because they are seen as better value for money, not necessarily because they are better.

In my job I am required to spec up bespoke tooling. I go to about 4 different suppliers and the select which quote to go with based on quality, cost, lead time, and practicality (for example we have one supplier in Milton Keynes and one supplier in Italy, so guess which one I'd prefer to work with! ) .

It is similar for transfer deals. The quality of the player is not the only deciding factor.


 

 

04 Jun 2017 08:56:03
Love how we've missed out on vvd even though our interest only came about due to the player wanting to come, or the fact perhaps he is still a saints player and could still end up anywhere.

This signing would always have been a luxury so I don't see why we should be pushing the boat out for a player and position that was not in our targets. If we can get him for what the club deem reasonable then hey ho that's fantastic!

But there seems to be the undertone of "why are Liverpool missing targets" developing here which even for this page could be a record at the 4th of June!

Begs the question ed which was personally the worst summer you had for dealing with people? Does one stand out or does it just get worse each year?

ShaneK_LFC

{Ed001's Note - it feels like it gets worse each year.}


1.) 04 Jun 2017 09:05:59
It does, but the Villa and Silva rumours circa '07 also seemed to cause mass consternation. I don't think we were ever close to signing either.

{Ed001's Note - we were but Parry pulled the plug.}


2.) 04 Jun 2017 09:12:39
Ou Fans sometime defends our defenders more thanne they actually defend in games. It would be a stupidity to pass on this window without buying a goodbye defender. We are up there on record number of goals conceded. And buying attacking full backs won't solve this puzzle either.


3.) 04 Jun 2017 09:16:59
I touched on this earlier in the week . The media leeks and propoganda machine will be in full flow . " we tried " . And now in for this player . " we tried again " . Keita and lacazette will be he next mass hsteria leaks . Robertson maguire / keane . And maybe salah if we don't try and balls that up . Also maybe the anderlecht striker or someone to that level . And of coarse the Chelsea young lad . Don't pin any of you're hopes on the lists peddled out by the usual Joyce and Pearce or bascombe . The fsg men.


4.) 04 Jun 2017 09:18:54
Thanks Ed01. I have renewed contempt for Parry now.


5.) 04 Jun 2017 09:28:26
Parry was the worse mistake the club ever made.


6.) 04 Jun 2017 09:33:23
I think the problem is becoming what football player want to earn. Irrespective of their fees, wages for players make up majority of the clubs financial outlay each season.

Sure we can go pay whatever obscene amount Southampton want for VVD but in the bigger scheme of things he is going to be making a very deep cut into our wage bill.

The 2016 financials show that Liverpool have the 3rd highest wage bill in the League when that is not where we even finished. Your wage bill should reflect compared to what is happening on the pitch surely?

So deals could be going sour because the club's wage bill is something which has to be sustained. Liverpool have been starved of success for an awful long time now. I am pretty sure there will not be any "missed out" deals once the club can be in a position of delivering silverware on an ongoing basis.

Obviously there could be many other reasons why Liverpool haggle in the transfer market but when looking at our debt, we are second behind UTD with the most debt in the EPL. Yes Chelsea owe Abramovic over 1 billion but it is not like he is sitting back crying about it. Other than that, City, Arsenal and Spurs are managing their outlay and turnover very well.

Liverpool can go all out and gamble in the market but failure on the pitch will continue to see the club in ever growing trouble.


7.) 04 Jun 2017 10:17:18
I wonder where the club would be if we had signed silva and villa back then. I can only imagine the success we would have had if you added them to the already brilliant team of alonso, torres, gerrard etc.


8.) 04 Jun 2017 10:33:45
MAX

For that you should first stop giving away huge contracts to the likes of Lovren and Lallana. Spurs has a smaller wage structure and how easily they finished above us! Can't blame anyone else other than us for the moneybags we have spend and the expense we incur we should be comfortably sitting a lot higher than where we are now.


9.) 04 Jun 2017 10:36:26
We had deals finalised for Silva and Villa if I recall. And didn't we have Dani Alves done aswell? Then Parry pulled out. That's a big reason that Rafa got the hump as he put a lot of effort into persuading them to join us. Please correct me if I'm wrong Ed001 as I'm not 100% sure but I recall reading that somewhere.

{Ed001's Note - if you were wrong I would correct you. He also pulled the plug on a move for Cristiano Ronaldo as he deemed £3.6m too expensive for a teenager.}


10.) 04 Jun 2017 11:24:41
Yeah I remember the Ronaldo one aswell. Are there anymore notable players we had and messed up you willing to list?


 

 

02 May 2017 09:14:36
judging by what i've read here this morning this will go against a lot of peoples thoughts, but i think origi is close to being a really top player for us.

Firstly what we have to realise in the system we play when teams sit deep it is less about the striker getting goals as it is helping to create space which will hopefully lead to goals. He ran the channels all night was good at switching positions with firmino and coutinho at the start which is another big aspect of what our striker will need and one thing where sturridge lacks.

Also his pressing is fantastic and he tries his hardest for the team, his hold up play and strength on the ball has improved incredibly this season and i can't remember seeing anyone get near him for strength this season.

But alas he is not setting the world alight, and people seem to be quite happy either getting a new striker or playing firmino up top and imo there are a couple of reasons for this.

In comparison to firmino playing up top origi doesn't have that next level of close controll and bit of magic up the sleeve in the same way firmino does, although his controll has improved notably but i think he is lacking a bit of confidence, To make up for the lack of goals he might get being clean through as teams sit deep he might need to put some serious work in on the shooting from 20-25 yards as he will probably get more opportunities from this range than in the box.

Secondly is goals from crosses which may as well be 0. With origi on the pitch this is an area that has to be improved upon but for me this is more the lack of full backs rather than origis fault. Im not saying he would be burying every decent cross in but until we get some decent deliveries into the box it is unfair to judge him in this aspect.

All in all though i think he is developing very nicely and people going mad about dembele for example up in scotland. Having watched him a lot and the goals celtic have been scoring i would easily imagine divock could get 20+ goals up their easily. I think a bit of work and a bit of patience with this boy and he could develop into a fine fine player!

ShaneK_LFC

1.) 02 May 2017 09:29:50
Agree with you Shane, well put 👍

I've no concerns about Divock, he's going to be better than Lukaku in a couple of years. We should give the lad a new contract.


2.) 02 May 2017 10:29:49
Although he has improved he still needs to be better at releasing the ball earlier- he tends to have too many unnecessary touches and hold up play not good enough
Last night towards the end he had the ball on the right hand side and instead of winning a throw promptly returned the ball to Watford so they could launch an attack.


3.) 02 May 2017 10:38:03
think that is knitpicking slightly mane as he had done exceedingly well winning throws and retaining possession all night and that was at the end after him putting in a huge shift when he was tired and was all on his own.


4.) 02 May 2017 10:45:50
Think you're going to get a lot of disagrees about the lukaku comment ron but I understand what you mean I think as it would be hard for origi to match lukakus goal scoring record as that is undoubtebly very impressive but his overall game and contribution to the team could very well be greater than lukakus. again for example would people want firmino or lukaku up top for our team or that matter benteke, firmino would probably guarantee the least amount of goals but clearly his contribution all round is much much more.


5.) 02 May 2017 12:02:20
Origi is only a young lad who is going to get better and better.

A lot here want lads from the u23s to step up to the first team but think Origi should already be the finished product.

I think he has done well.


6.) 02 May 2017 12:48:04
Origi had the talent and the athleticism but he lacks the aptitude. I'll be happy to be wrong about it but I don't see him becoming a top class striker.


7.) 02 May 2017 13:27:24
I think he has all the necessary elements, it's just whether he'll develop into something good or something very very special IMO. it's between the ears that counts now.

The best thing about him is I think he's a bit like a young Harry Kane, and has nothing seemingly truly exceptional but he has it all. he's able to hold it up effectively, run in behind, score with his feet, score with his head (although could be better with his height) and has decent movement and desire to win the ball back. He still has quite a bit to learn but I'm confident we'll be very happy to have him a couple of years (just like Kane who wasn't rated a couple of years ago but now most teams would bite your hand off for him)


8.) 02 May 2017 14:38:37
Hypothetically. If you are given three players to choose from, Rashford, Origi and Gabriel Jesus. Who would you choose. All young upcoming strikers.


9.) 02 May 2017 14:44:35
Couldn't agree more, I think the lad has a really bright future.

Only concern for me is positioning, there are numerous times when he does a Benteke and is not making the run a deadly striker makes.


10.) 02 May 2017 15:36:54
love your post, Shane. I have no qualms with Origi as he is developing very nicely, IMO. If you want him to start scoring like Studge and Lukaku while he's still developing the you will be disappointed and it would be nobody else's fault but yours for such expectation.

He has all the tools needed and that is a fact. He just needs to play more, learn quicky, get better service (as our crosses from FB's are awful) and put it all together. Klopp really believes in him and so do many of us. He'll be fine cos his attitude and work ethic are exemplary BUT it's up to him to take advantage of his opportunities.


11.) 02 May 2017 16:30:15
Harry to answer your question, maybe bias within this but personally I'd stick with Origi, he has experience of international tournaments, where he made an impact, knows the league now, is settled, don't get me wrong both Rashford and Jesus's have qualities and Jesus's in particular looks to be a special talent but he hasn't even had a full season in the league yet, we've all seen players come in, do great for a season and then get found out, only time will determine the validity of such subjecture, good to discuss, maybe it was me but you appeared to use that question as a way of demeaning OrigI Harry? Point is we don't have Rashford or Jesus, we can only work with what we have or procure going forward.


12.) 02 May 2017 17:33:23
I'd stick with Origi but he needs consistency and to be moving on now. He's still relatively young but top players have shown up more by now, so either he's a late developer or he's not going to be the top class option in the long term.


13.) 02 May 2017 18:54:44
Spot on, Unconditional. Gab Jesus is a special player who is the best CF I have seen coming out of Brazil since the legendary Ronaldo. The kid has everything and if you watch him play next to Neymar and Couts for Brazil, you will see why. there's a reason Pep wants him to start ahed of Aguero even tho Aguero is a beast. Comparing Jesus with Origi is nonsense as Jesus is the better player clearly and more experienced as he is Brazil's no. 1 CF while Origi is no. 2 or 3 for Belgium.

As for Rashford, he is NOT in Origi's league as all he has is pace and absolutely NOTHING more. He does not possess, the dribbling skils, power, hold up play and aerial ability Origi possesses so that comparison makes no sense. He is not fit to lace the boots of the man many have labeled "a mixture of Thierry Henry and Didier Drogba". Nuff said!


 

 

 

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29 Jul 2017 08:58:30
Way we're going we could hire Don King to do negotiations.

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29 Jul 2017 08:03:28
They've been wrong about 20 times this summer!
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They just report the most talked about newspaper pieces essentially.

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16 Jul 2017 07:39:12
If he believes he'll sign surely there will be a formal approach as apposed to a kidnapping?

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17 Aug 2017 14:46:17
Personally was of the opinion he never should have got the job as bar winning the league his reputation was going to be tarnished but he stepped in to help us out as far as I'm aware? Either way legend and king!

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10 Aug 2017 08:43:10
Fair wer I personally think/ hope he will stay one more season, but Barcelona is his dream move and if as Ed002 has said Barcelona would not be interested next year could this be his one chance? If Barcelona cough up close to 120 million pounds we won't get that money again for him, transfers at that level won't keep rising imo so in that case could be very tough to keep him.
As you say though if the new deal had a release/ termination clause of say 120 million then it would put a lot of this to bed.

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Bit naive there wer if you ask me. it is the boys dream and if the money is right it will be hard to tell him we'd block his dream.

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02 Aug 2017 09:37:44
No problem with him getting physical early with Ribery showed him he was there and not to be messed with and ribery had little to no joy all night despite having lots of the ball. Thought it was a great performance for him!

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