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11 Aug 2020 12:46:21
Ed’s 1 and 2,I know you’ve answered this before I think, so apologies if you have and I couldn’t find it but if you’ve time could you explain how transfer fees are worked out and where the money goes and additional monies paid after the transfer fee is agreed if there is any ie fees, taxes, agents etc
Many thanks Eds.


{Ed002's Note - It might be an apt time to explain again about the cost of transfers (excluding wages). What is paid by the buying club would typically include:

(a) Transfer fee - the big number.
(b) Any levy applied by the local FA – 5% for the Premier League.
(c) Tax due on the transfer fee – typically this will be VAT (at varying rates across Europe) some or all of which should be reclaimable.
(d) Agent fees – this may be to one or more agents (as an example, Liverpool have spent more than £100M plus VAT on agent fees over the past three years (nearly double the next highest) including £28M last season alone when only spending a tiny amount on transfers).
(e) Tax due on the agent fees – typically this is VAT at the local rate where the agent bills from – it is not reclaimable.
(f) Intermediary fees – this may be to one or more sponging leeches (what do you mean you have a super agent?) .
(g) Tax due on the Intermediary fees – typically this is VAT at the local rate where the Intermediary bills from – it is not reclaimable.
(h) Signing on fee to the player (possibly including non-reclaimable VAT if the player is VAT registered).
(i) Legal fees.
(j) VAT on legal fees which is reclaimable.
(k) Moving/relocation costs for the player.
(l) VAT on moving/relocation costs which is reclaimable.
(m) Solidarity and Training Contribututions (see below).
(n) Paying up insurance costs to the selling club (usually waived).

What is paid by the selling club would typically include:

(a) If the player is under 24 and moving between different football associations, a Solidarity contribution paid to his previous clubs responsible for his training - this is 5% of the transfer fee received (apportioned 5% of the contribution for each year from the season of his 12th birthday to the season of his 15th birthday and 10% of the contribution for each season from his 16th to 23rd birthdays). This is generally (there are exceptions) recoverable from the buying club but responsibility (that is meant to be with the buying club) can be assigned to the selling club.
(b) If the player moves to a higher category club (all clubs being categorised 1 to 4) then Training Compensation is due for the period of age 12 to 21. Compensation is due to all clubs when the player turns from amateur to professional and thereafter only when he moves from his final training club to another club. The initial training compensation is levied at the training costs associated with Category 4 clubs. The subsequent figure is agreed between the sides or tribuneral if necessary. This is generally (there are exceptions) recoverable from the buying club but responsibility (that is meant to be with the buying club) can be assigned to the selling club.
(c) Any monies owed to the player if he did not request a transfer – again this is 5% of the transfer fee received.
(d) Any monies owed to the player in terms of his contract (typically outstanding owed wages (not future wages) and bonuses).
(e) Any money contractually due to a previous club as the result of a sell-on clause.}

1.) 11 Aug 2020 13:12:13
What happens to the levy collected by the local FA? That 5% presumably adds up to a huge amount for all the transfers in the Premier league.

{Ed002's Note - The FA is a not-for-profit organisation so after taking the operating costs out the rest goes back in to the game.}

2.) 11 Aug 2020 14:47:21
ed002 how did we spend £28m on agent fees last season we only signed the young lads and Minamino. I get it when we are signing the likes of VVD and Alisson but what has that gone on.
cheers ed.

{Ed002's Note - Advisors, the slush fund, payments hanging over etc..}

3.) 11 Aug 2020 15:53:54
wow, so many variables involved. So, if we see in the news that the player is £30m, it is only the Transfer fee (the big number) and the rest of the amount can amount to a bigger figure (on top of the 30m) right?

{Ed002's Note - Of course.}

4.) 11 Aug 2020 17:57:40
This is exactly why the "net spend" nonsense Sly Sports would keep pushing during transfer windows should be ignored.

5.) 11 Aug 2020 20:13:12
Ed2 thanks so much for that in-depth answer, I appreciate it mate, oh and when supporters say “well we got him on a free transfer so he didn’t cost nothing” looks like it isn’t exactly true, as they say I suppose nothing is free.

6.) 12 Aug 2020 00:14:00
thanks for explaining so clearly Ed2. Football is big business and obviously there are many financial aspects that the general public is unaware when it comes to transactions, operating costs, etc. I just don't like how the media puts talks about it so naively in an uninformed fashion that misinforms the fans.

If running a football club was that easy, (e. g., I sell for 30 mil, ah, now i have this extra money to buy a 30 mil player), there's no need for a board, CFOs, and the like.

I do hope Liverpool gets its act together to spend less during transactions due to our poor dealings with agents, tapping up and whatever not.

7.) 12 Aug 2020 12:06:56

I see you saying the FA is no profitable, what about the premier league and the brand does it work off the same model or is it a franchise?

{Ed002's Note - The FA is a not for profit organisation. The Premier League do make a small profit after costs (wages, prize money) are deducted and some goes to football related charities.}



06 Aug 2018 10:33:27
Leon Bailey last week said in an interview that there has been interest by Roma, Chelsea and Liverpool this summer, he also does not want to make any promises about staying with the club beyond August 9 when the transfer window closes in England
Fingers crossed then lads.


1.) 06 Aug 2018 10:42:43
Where would he fit in, we have a front three. He would want to be a regular starter.

2.) 06 Aug 2018 10:47:14
Interest could mean a Scout watching though.

3.) 06 Aug 2018 11:18:24
He will play left wing with Mane in no.10 role if it should happen I think.

4.) 06 Aug 2018 11:22:29
So Mahrez and Bernardo don't want to start! I'm sick of the idea we can't sign quality players to challenge our first team. What happens if we get injuries? What about last season when our regulars were tired and we lost vital points at West Brom and Chelsea. And YES it has something to do with Man City because they are our 'rivals'

5.) 06 Aug 2018 13:15:32
Kirby, it's not as simple as you make out. There are certain players who will go to clubs expecting to be first choice, others will be content with a lesser role. Shaqiri is happy because of his situation with Stoke. Mahrez had been desperate to leave Leicester for a couple of sessions. Other players wouldn't be ok with what those guys have been offered. Brandt famously rejected us because we couldn't offer first team football.

Yes we need a strong squad but getting a bench full of players as good as our starters is not realistic.

6.) 06 Aug 2018 13:24:12
It’s a squad game now and I think that players at top clubs have to understand that.
It’s unrealistic to think that our front 3 can play every game so we should be looking to sign similar quality to rotate. If they perform they become first choice and play more it really is that simple.

7.) 06 Aug 2018 15:17:36
There were definitely times last season when we started with the t'riffic triumvirate and in the end being able to bring one of them on, fresh when everyone else is lagging would have changed a couple of results, in my opinion. Think of the impact Salah had when he came on against Stoke and won the game for us. Rotation isn't a bad thing when done correctly. Sure, start them in the main, but having a squad of top players keeps competition for places and all players looking to impress, not just resting on their laurels.

8.) 06 Aug 2018 15:19:49
I'm not saying we need to sign anyone else, by the way. Just reiterating Kirby's and BB's points.

9.) 06 Aug 2018 17:06:14
Doh! Kirkby* (autocorrect)

10.) 07 Aug 2018 07:14:11
Has Mane signed that contract he was offered last month? If not, then Bailey interest makes sense.



14 Jun 2017 20:34:06
According to today's Italian newspaper Il Mattino, Klopp is still very keen on Napoli's Piotr Zielinski, and an offer of £25M has already been made and Naby Keita is still a big interest, although Liverpool could be priced out, £50 mil or more as his club don't need to sell or need the money.


1.) 14 Jun 2017 21:05:02
They can keep zielinski.

2.) 14 Jun 2017 21:06:39
So, we're interested in signing Zielinski when we've already moved on and signed Wijnaldum instead last season? Sounds like a load of tosh to me mate.

3.) 15 Jun 2017 01:49:59
In fairness lads zielinski had a very good season with Napoli.

4.) 15 Jun 2017 03:25:12
Not completely out of question to target Zielinski. People may say Gini was the alternative we signed but we did not have European football last season. Lucas is going so a midfielder will probably arrive. Zielinski had a very good season at Napoli and Klopp obviously rates him highly so what's wrong with trying to sign him now?

5.) 15 Jun 2017 03:40:18
Nabby keita or Nothing!

6.) 15 Jun 2017 05:57:55
Done see why we'd need Zielinski when we have Gini, Llalana, Coutinho, Grujic able to play attacking midfield, and Can and Hendo can play further forward too if required.

7.) 15 Jun 2017 11:02:32
Zielinski will be another wrong purchase. We need a CM and not an ACM! Naby Kieta, Savic or Kovacic please.

8.) 15 Jun 2017 11:02:02
I think Zielinski would add diversity to our midfield, unless Couthinho drops deep, we do not have a midfield player that can take a ball, carry it, run at the defense, dribble past the first defender, then thread a pass while other defenders are scrambling to close down.

9.) 16 Jun 2017 01:31:50
I'm looking forward to seeing how Grujic starts next season.
Hopefully he gets an injury free run of games.
He'll be like a new signing as will Danny Inges, but with Danny it'll probably be later in the season.

There was a lot of posts about Cann and his value to the team, I thought that towards the end of the season he was improving game by game. In my view he was an unsung man of the match in a lot of the games.



22 Mar 2017 20:20:28
Hi Eds, according to my brother, Liverpool have been extensively scouting American Bobby Wood, as recently as the Hamburg Vs Gladbach game, I know clubs send out scouts to see loads of players, just wondering if this one has any legs to it
Thanks Eds.


{Ed002's Note - He only moved from Union Berlin's to Hamburg last summer so they won't be looking to sell Bobby Wood. I am not aware of Liverpool showing an interest at this time. Hamburg paid €3M for him 6 months ago and a work permit might be tough to sort out unless an English side were to pay over the odds. It would be an odd choice from near the bottom of the barrell.}

1.) 22 Mar 2017 20:39:04
Thanks Ed002,you're definitely a legend, I'll show my brother your message, that'll slow him down.

2.) 24 Mar 2017 13:19:11
Seen him play and he's not even better than Woodburn. NEXT.



31 Aug 2016 18:26:36
Markovic has agreed to a loan at Sporting.


1.) 31 Aug 2016 22:34:34
Confirmed on SS.




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06 Sep 2020 17:54:11

Have you ever done reviews, if that's the right words, of Liverpool's managers, I can go back as far as Bob Paisley who was an absolute legend, but what about the likes of Souness, Evans, Houllier, Benitez, Hodgeson, Dalglish second time around, Rodgers and now Klopp, I know it would take some writing about but just an idea
Thanks mate.


{Ed001's Note - do you mean something like this series of articles? Or something different to this?}

1.) 06 Sep 2020 20:07:40
Ed yes something like that mate but bring it up to date, I’m sure a lot of posters on here will not remember the likes of Shankly and Paisley but guessing they can go back as far as Benitez so could you do an article if not to much hassle and time consuming to bring it right up to date with the names I mentioned
Thanks mate.

{Ed001's Note - I am in the middle of Paisley now, that series will be completed in time. I just have a lot of stuff to get through, so it will be a while before it is finished.}

2.) 06 Sep 2020 21:13:53
Ed thanks I’m sure we all would appreciate it on here.

{Ed001's Note - I hope so mate.}



27 Dec 2018 17:03:56
Lads I just watched "Let's Us Dream" on amazon prime, the documentary about Stevie G, what a great program to watch so if you haven't seen it already then try too, watching the section about the CL final in 2005,how did we win that final with that team compared to Milan's megastar team, made me well up watching that bit
Anyway to all Eds and Reds hope you have a peaceful new year.


1.) 27 Dec 2018 17:31:09
Sid19, that victory as improbable as it was, is why we love the game or sports in general. As Klopp said this week, "If you want guarantees? Follow another sport". Happy New Year to the whole Liverpool country (as Sahko would say)!

2.) 27 Dec 2018 21:16:01
I was at both finals against Milan mate. Istanbul was mental, Dudek pulled off a one in a million saves in extra time to keep us in the game, they were the better team.
In Greece, we were the better team but lost. It’s s funny old game!

3.) 28 Dec 2018 01:25:17
Didn’t go to the Greece final, just didn’t have the same feel that year. Went to every game in 2005, it was the most incredible football journey climaxing in an extraordinary final. It was surreal, yet it just felt like destiny.



05 Aug 2018 22:00:07
"Because the other clubs that compete with us, they are really strong, or they already have fantastic teams and squads like Chelsea, Tottenham, Manchester City. or they are investing massively like Liverpool that is buying everything and everybody. "

Ladies and Gentlemen I give you Mourinho and his excuses.


1.) 05 Aug 2018 22:08:00
He's not even worth your time mate, he'll be history soon, what an absolute gobrubbishe that man is.

{Ed002's Note - Why say that given recent history - it is simply embarrassing.}

2.) 05 Aug 2018 22:14:01
Believe that under a different manager they could push for the title.
Best GK in EPL over past couple of seasons
Pogba, Sanchez, Mata and Lukaku have loads of goals in them
Fred bought
Matic holding

Typical Jose getting his excuses in early.

3.) 05 Aug 2018 22:44:03
It's such a shame Jose feels the need to whinge these days. He portraits such a bitter man which is unfortunate as most people that know him say what a top bloke he is.

One thing about the Charity Shield game, the huge shock. John Moss is still refereeing at the top level? Did he just wander on and no one had the heart to stop him, or should we brace for another season of him ambling around the middle of the pitch.

{Ed002's Note - Don't get sucked in, it means nothing.}

4.) 05 Aug 2018 23:13:36
We've all seen it before. Setting of the stage for a well paid exit. Will refuse to resign but make sure he is paid off well to just leave.

5.) 05 Aug 2018 23:17:39
its just classic mourinho deflection. that statement clearly makes 0 sense

and shaqiri. so one more player is hardly "everything and everyone"
hes just trying to panick his board into giving him a few more players before the window shuts. conte tried a similar thing throughout last season. guess we'll see if united bow to his demands lol.

6.) 05 Aug 2018 23:30:40
Jose is an expert at deflecting the media, I’m sure he is very different behind closed doors.

7.) 05 Aug 2018 23:32:11
Why is any one taken notice of what he is saying? He’s played mind games for years, we have spent a fortune on some amazing players, seen by some as buying the league seen by others as good business, personally see it as buying players to catch up with the other top teams in prem and Europe.
As long as we stay within our spending limits I’m not bothered, scary if we’ve spent 170miliion plus on transfer fees how much we’ve spent on signing fees and agents fees and everything else is scary.
Sorry wandered of topic, Maureen plays games constantly, bring on the league start and we will see what happens.

8.) 06 Aug 2018 03:31:14
‘Buying everything and everybody’

Since joining Man Utd Mourinho has bought

That’s 10 players at an average of 48m Euro each vs Klopp buying 13 at an average of 33.6m each (data purely according to transfermarkt) .

The no. of transfers is also ignoring the fact Klopp has had longer as manager and we also lost Coutinho.

I think we can safely say he’s just positioning 😂.

9.) 06 Aug 2018 07:21:11
Maybe he bumpped into Doctor Eva Carneiro whilst wandering the streets of Salford😂

Or he could be facing another fine for tax fraud?



08 Jul 2017 09:47:10
Mourinho is due a medical today after agreeing to pay 90mil for Lukaku.


1.) 08 Jul 2017 10:03:54
To get the best you have to pay the best. ha
Heard mino is pocketing atleast 10m of that fee, mental.

2.) 08 Jul 2017 10:51:35
Lukaku deal in numbers.
£75 mill + Add ons ( Rooney ) lol.

3.) 08 Jul 2017 12:12:31
Hilarious one Sid. Lukaku a decent player no doubt but 75 million for Lukaku and subsidising 15 million worth of Rooney's wages?
What are they smoking over at Old C**pford?

{Ed025's Note - what they are doing IB is identifying their targets and paying the money for someone they want...maybe LFC should take note mate..

4.) 08 Jul 2017 12:35:34
So 75mn for a striker who scored 25 league goals last season is overpaying but 70mn for a bundlesliga mf who no one had heard about until few months ago is a great deal, liverpool fans never fail to amuse.

5.) 08 Jul 2017 20:31:48
But Lukaku is poor.



24 Jun 2017 11:33:28
This is the reply a Liverpool fan got when he tweeted new Liverpool CEO Peter Moore about Aubameyang

"if Aubameyang is available for £63m as reported (and would come) please get him! You would recoup most of the money in shirts"

" All the profits would disappear with the cost of lettering the shirts. "


1.) 24 Jun 2017 12:29:58
Light hearted sense of humour. Nice of him to reply to fans.

2.) 24 Jun 2017 14:03:57
i thought the way salah was announced was quite funny. salah announced in response to people constantly tweeting announce salah.

3.) 24 Jun 2017 14:10:53
What's this myth about recouping transfer fees with shirt sales?

4.) 24 Jun 2017 14:15:51
great to hear a bit of footy banter, and he knows that this player is just out of our reach .




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11 Aug 2020 20:13:12
Ed2 thanks so much for that in-depth answer, I appreciate it mate, oh and when supporters say “well we got him on a free transfer so he didn’t cost nothing” looks like it isn’t exactly true, as they say I suppose nothing is free.




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01 Aug 2017 18:20:33
I'm sorry to say Ed002 but you'll be asked this question again tomorrow and by the same culprits
I can't understand how from day one you've said no deal will be done for this player but yet they still ask daily.




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23 Jun 2017 22:05:12
Chelsea will sign Virgil van Dijk from Southampton for £60m, deals been agreed and it's almost done
(All of tomorrow's newspapers)




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08 Jun 2017 10:25:18
Thanks Eds for the in depth post, we all appreciate it on here, we'd all be clueless if it wasn't for you lot.


{Ed001's Note - thank you mate.}



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08 Jun 2017 10:18:43
AB you've been saying deal done for both players now you're backtracking, be easier to say that you never had a clue in the first place, even the Eds were saying that there was no deal in place when asked.





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06 Sep 2020 21:13:53
Ed thanks I’m sure we all would appreciate it on here.


{Ed001's Note - I hope so mate.}



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06 Sep 2020 20:07:40
Ed yes something like that mate but bring it up to date, I’m sure a lot of posters on here will not remember the likes of Shankly and Paisley but guessing they can go back as far as Benitez so could you do an article if not to much hassle and time consuming to bring it right up to date with the names I mentioned
Thanks mate.


{Ed001's Note - I am in the middle of Paisley now, that series will be completed in time. I just have a lot of stuff to get through, so it will be a while before it is finished.}



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12 Apr 2019 20:50:41
Bill Shankly said of him: “Tommy wasn’t born, he was quarried. ”.




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16 Jan 2019 19:49:37
What with this and you’re match review Ed001 I salute you and tip my hat (if I were to be wearing one that is)
Thanks a million mate.


{Ed001's Note - cheers mate.}



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09 Dec 2018 20:08:40
Once again Ed001 many thanks for the game review as you know I look forward to reading them and I must admit I agree with everything you said
As for your “And Finally” posts I’d personally prefer just football posts but that’s just my opinion and I’d read them anyway whatever you put up
Oh and as I don’t post that much I’d like to wish all the posters and Edds a happy Xmas and a peaceful new year.


{Ed001's Note - ok cheers mate. Merry Chrimbo and a Happy New Year to you too.}