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05 Mar 2018 01:03:43
Hey eds n reds. just wondering if the eds could tell me whether Dani Ceballos is being looked at as a Jorginho type deep lying playmaker or is he being looked as a partner to Keita infront of that DLP.? Cheers.


{Ed002's Note - I have not decided tactically how I will use him just yet.}

1.) 05 Mar 2018 11:17:44
Thanks ed002 i really appreciate your help 👌.

2.) 05 Mar 2018 18:34:46
The kid has hardly kicked a ball in top flight football, I don’t know how he would walk into our team!

3.) 05 Mar 2018 21:02:02
BD-He’s played over 100 top flight games.

4.) 06 Mar 2018 09:07:27
Harry, he played a lot of football for Betis before joining RM. hardly a kid.



29 Dec 2016 10:14:19
Hey eds. just wanting to know if im correct in thinking Sakho, Lucas and Ilori will be the only players to move on this coming transfer period.?


{Ed001's Note - that is likely to be the case, though Michael Beale wanted Ilori to get a shot and was effusive in his praise of the lad before he left.}

1.) 29 Dec 2016 13:10:20
That is a shame!

Although I know he is not going to be "our saviour" I feel for the lad.

Are we assuming Gomez is going to be the 4th being used in the FA cup?

{Ed001's Note - if he is up to fitness by then. He is still feeling his way back.}




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11 May 2018 02:37:36
So as a rough guess at our ins n outs for next season im getting super excited at the squad we are building. plenty players moved on if a buyer can be found for the players. Mignolet, Ward, Clyne, Emre, Grujic, Lallana, Markovic. then a decision has to be made on the striker options. i personally don't think we need to bring 1 in, i would be happy with 2 of Origi, Sturridge and Ings as backup for Firmino. as i think Solanke needs a good loan to Championship or lower Premier League club. so with the roughly 9 or so players moving on plus maybe more youth players like Wilson, Ojo, Kent etc. we are looking at RB, Winger, CAM, CDM and backup GK. Keita we know is coming in already. something like Fekir (CAM), Malcolm (Winger), Diawara (CDM), Periera (RB) and Reina (GK) . that would be incredible.! Although i have just picked Malcolm out randomly and i think interest in Periera is gone but as i said its just a rough guess by me. i really hope it ends up something along those lines that turns our squad into a real strenth in depth team that can rotate without really weakening us and be able to challenge on all fronts. exciting stuff. hope all is well eds n reds.


{Ed0333's Note - you’d have Sturridge in the squad next season? I’d rather have Albert Steptoe he would move quicker and get injured less.

1.) 11 May 2018 05:07:16
We have no interest in Diawara and that is it! He is a stopper and as long as Klopp is here we won’t play with one either. We are looking at Deep lying playmakers in the mold of Jorginho.
Malcolm is exciting but I would prefer Bailey from leverkusen. Again not happening.
I would be happy with Fekir and Jorginho!

2.) 11 May 2018 05:58:56
I’d perhaps be happy with any of Origi, Solanke or Ings as a third but we need a new forward that’s able to compete with Mane, Salah, Firmino as none of the first three are capable of having a meaningful impact off the bench.

Please not Sturridge, sorry but he’s not what he used to be and doesn’t play the way Klopp needs the team to play.

3.) 11 May 2018 06:17:32
The only reason to keep Sturridge is to keep the medical staff from getting bored and that’s not worth his massive weekly wage.

Personally I think (actually Ed’s, is this possible? ) can’t we just release him? I don’t profess to know how this works in football but I’m pretty sure if I was being paid a huge salary to be amazing at my job, but was never there doing it, I would have been let go pretty quick! There must be some contract back stop to say if you can’t play for more than ‘x’ games or longer than a certain period the player isn’t fulfilling their side of the contract and it can be terminated?

Don’t get me wrong, he is supposed to be good to have around but tell you what, pay me half what you pay him a week, I will play the same number of games for LFC and I will be just as nice to have about. 🤣.

{Ed001's Note - we would have to pay up his contract in full, unless he agrees a deal for less in order to free himself up for another move.}

4.) 11 May 2018 06:35:14
Ings, Sturridge, Origi, Solanke takes you to the same point and ask you the same question. Why on earth do you need CF when you don’t play with one in the first eleven! How about finding the next false 9 rather than a CF? Or give me two exciting wingers who could play either side of Bobby!

{Ed001's Note - maybe so there is a plan B when A is not working?}

5.) 11 May 2018 10:29:04
I honestly believe Fekir could play false 9 if need be, while also playing as an attacking midfielder and winger depending on the circumstances. He looks like a better version of Coutinho with less shooting from 40 yards at every opportunity. A great dribbler, really likes to run at the defence just like Ox. Has scored a shed load of goals, good attitude (unlike some of the alternatives), a great set piece taker (which is what we are sorely lacking), coming into the prime of his career and, most importantly, gives us the ability to break down teams that sit deep and can score goals out of nothing. For me, Fekir isn’t just a preferable signing, its an absolute must.

6.) 11 May 2018 10:34:55
A fit Sturridge starts in our team in my opinion. I don't know how or where, but a fit Sturridge could easily score 25 goals a season and you don't leave out top class players.

The problem is a fit Sturridge is about as likely as Michael Jackson and Freddie Mercury doing a duet at Glastonbury later this year.

I hope he gets a good move elsewhere but the club shouldn't force him out when he only has a year left anyway. We gave him the contract and if he'd stayed fit the last few years, I'm sure we'd all expect him to be professional. Loyalty goes both ways. If you expect players to honour their contracts even If they improve vastly, you should expect the club to honour contracts even if injury plagues someones career. Talk of terminating his contract does not sit well with me. Integrity in football used to mean something.

7.) 11 May 2018 09:28:22
I thought Klavan was plan B ed? Lol.

{Ed001's Note - he is plan F.}

8.) 11 May 2018 14:04:19
Can someone please explain what this fable 'false 9' is? Sounds like its either an 8 or a 10. That's as close to 9 as you can get without being one. I heard Rodgers use it once and that's exactly the type of nonsense he'd come up with to use as a sound bite rather than having any substance.

It seems to me that a 9 is anyone who plays up top without tracking back much. Someone who just stays up top and waits for the ball. That is, if we're counting slightly deeper players who get more involved with build up play as false 9's.

Fekir is an attacking midfielder who can play anywhere along the front line as well. Therefore, you could argue that he's just an all round forward. Same with Bobby and even Sadio, to a degree.

However, take Sadio out of the false 9 argument for a minute and put him back in his usual position. Also, assume we sign Fekir or another like for like player this summer, does that mean we will be playing with 2 false 9's or a false 9 and a false 10? Add Sadio and Mo into the equation and we'll be playing with a false 9, a false 10 and 2 wing 9's. Am I right?

My head hurts.

9.) 11 May 2018 14:40:55
I would definitely go see that MK, 2 of the greatest for sure.

As for Sturridge, unfortunately for the lad I think his career is being forced and I don't ever see him getting back to full fitness. On his day he WAS one of the best strikers and as you say could put 25 away a season but even if he was fully fit, I think those days are gone.

10.) 11 May 2018 15:15:02
Oh Ed01,when did you start following “plans” 😂😂😂. There is only one plan in Liverpool and that’s klopp’s Exciting, Excellent, fluent, interchangeable front 3! Take out one and deploy a CF and we are pants!

{Ed001's Note - I give up, goes over your head this, if you think a front 3 can only be played one way then it is a waste of everyone's time you joining in this discussion. I am sure Klopp must never have managed with an out and out striker before, such as Lewandowski, for example, in a front 3, right?}

11.) 11 May 2018 15:35:43
You’re confusing yourself Bardzo mate - a false 9 is just a central attacker that tends to drop deeper into the playmaker role to get the ball, thereby drawing the CBs out and leaving space for the wingers to exploit in behind him. Firmino has played it to perfection this season, feeding Mane and Salah on many of their goals, but then he’s also capable of playing like a true 9 at times, getting into the box and scoring himself when the situation demands. That’s what makes him so good IMO.

Any ‘normal’ playmaker from midfield is simply a no.10 as they still have a striker ahead of them.

I agree with Ed though, and feel quite a few players in our side are capable of playing false 9, so it makes sense to have a more traditional striker somewhere in the team as a plan B when we’re struggling to break down teams sitting deep. Ings and Solanke are proper 9’s and I guess Klopp may have had Solanke in mind for this exact role, but both have struggled a bit this season. We need someone for those times when the opposition has 10 in the box for the last 20mins of a game and we have no other option but to bash the door down rather than keep trying to pick the lock.

Given how rarely we need that though, and how it’s so against our natural style of play, we’ll struggle to find a top striker willing to do that for us and sit on the bench most of the time (and god forbid we go back to the days of Benteke) which is why I don’t think Crouchy is a bad shout at all for a third or fourth choice striker, crazy as it may seem! His whole game is built around doing exactly that.

12.) 11 May 2018 16:05:27
Wasnt suppose to turn into a Sturridge chat. Got hammered by you lot in this thread for something u all misread. u guys realise i did actually say "2 of Origi Sturridge and Ings as backup to Firmino" and not "i would love sturridge to be our number 1 striker" right.? Gee wizz. he's going to be hard to sell and was a good impact sub for us before he left on loan. much better then what we have had from Ings and Solanke this season. but again i will reiterate that yes i would be more then happy if he left and kept Ings and Origi. the whole point of that comment wasnt for u guys to only focus on Sturridge, but about not needing to spend on a striker and being excited about what our squad is potentially going to be. far out. tough crowd u lot are.

13.) 11 May 2018 16:13:28
Lewandoswki wouldn’t get inot the current liverpool side Ed01.

{Ed001's Note - as a plan B though....}

14.) 11 May 2018 16:36:58
Ha ha ha Ed01. I would rather Harry Wilson or an exciting winger as a back up! This system is built for wingers / wide forwards whose biggest weapon is PACE!
At no point during a match I would bring on a striker into the team! We have scored over 100 goals without a striker. We don’t need one!

{Ed001's Note - what happens if Firmino is out?}

15.) 11 May 2018 17:58:15
Play Salah or Mane centrally absolutely introduce the winger on the flanks! Simple.

16.) 11 May 2018 19:25:47
SGred, my post probably wasn't tongue in cheek enough. I know what a false 9 is supposed to be but to me that's just a support striker, or what a number 10 used to be. It's just another expression (which is meant to sound fancy but just sounds like jargon) to describe the evolution of a modern forward. Firmino plays as a 'false 9' but actually plays as a number 9 because we have no target man, so to speak. What I mean is the modern game at the top level is evolving so that it is a prerequisite of nearly all forwards to play that role, therefore leaving a false 9 as null and void, thus becoming a number 9, forward or striker once again.

We actually play with our wingers often the furthest forward and one in particular as an outside striker or wing 9. It's a fallacy, however. Salah is a winger. Firmino is a striker. Fekir would be an attacking mid (in the main) . I'm just having a dig at the phrase 'false 9' really. It only came about because Spain decided to play without a striker for a few games and the commentators and pundits didn't know what to do.



15 Mar 2018 20:45:31
Eds n Reds. not sure the reaction i will get but for next season i would prefer we bring in a striker like Werner and move Firmino into midfield. i just think he would be perfect along side Keita with his pressing and creativity and would also add goals from midfield which is needed in my opinion. im not sure if we are looking at bringing in a CB but i think a quality CB, Jorginho and Werner strengthens along all lines. i mean how strong does a midfield of Jorginho, Firmino and Keita behind Mane, Werner and Salah seem. maybe im dreaming but it seems semi realistic to me. don't get me wrong i love what Firmino has done as striker but we need creativity and goals from midfield and im not sure Keita alone will be enough to take us to the level we are looking at getting to. adding more pace and goals to our front 3 would be freightening let alone adding more goals and creativity to midfield aswell. thoughts.?


1.) 15 Mar 2018 20:52:15
Who knows, Klopp might just go down that route. I think we need another option in attack but I wouldn’t mess with the Mane, Bobby, Salah combination because they work so well together.
It ain’t broke, don’t try and fix it.

We do need another option though against bus parkers.

2.) 15 Mar 2018 21:16:12
I also agree we do need another option but I wouldn't move Firmino in a million years, he's at his best in this position, I don't want to see his form drop by moving him about.

3.) 15 Mar 2018 21:24:08
I like the idea id we are playing a 4-2-2-2, 4-2-3-1 or something like. but in our current system I feel like Firmino wuold take a good couple of seasons to settle into one of the 2 box to box midfield roles we play.

4.) 15 Mar 2018 21:36:44
Firmino's unpredictable movement up front is a big part of how we create space in attack. A lot of the time defenders are left with a choice between being pulled out of position by his movement, handing him off to someone else (which can go wrong if a ball comes forward at the wrong time or they just don't communicate properly) or outright leaving him drop into space unmarked, all of which helps stretch and upset opposition defenders.

Firmino has the technical ability to be a good attacking midfielder, but if he was coming from deeper positions instead of starting up top and wandering about, he'd be easier to predict and we'd probably need to reshape our attack a bit. Not a good idea, imo.

Obviously Firmino can't play every game and we do need another option, but said option wouldn't be first choice.

5.) 15 Mar 2018 21:52:07
I actually think it would be a much easier transition to that role then his move to striker. i mean he was naturally an attacking mid transformed to a striker anyway. obviously im on the outer with this idea but i really think having his qualities in midfield would make a world of difference alongside Keita. obviously goals are only an issue for us with teams that sit back against us. more pace up top and more creativity in midfield helps towards fixing that issue.

6.) 15 Mar 2018 22:55:39
My fear is not where Bobby plays but who. could take over if he suffers and injury. He is so critical to the team and I'm the most talented mportant player.

7.) 16 Mar 2018 01:35:20
No you play your best player at cf. He is a forward, our attack is class.

8.) 16 Mar 2018 05:37:09
Well put Something Red. I wouldn’t start him in midfield in a 4-3-3 but a switch to 4-2-3-1 with Werner at striker ahead of Mane, Firmino, Salah and Hendo/ Keita at base of midfield would be one hell of a team.

9.) 16 Mar 2018 07:05:59
We need a player like Son. Someone who plays attacking mid and can play striker if needed.

10.) 16 Mar 2018 07:25:48
Whoever you get, has to agree to be Bobbie's deputy and NO top class or up and coming striker like Werner will come here and do that so people prolly wanna lower their expectations on the level of striker we could get. Just saying.

11.) 16 Mar 2018 10:53:14
smurf - it all sounds good. just pointing out that we don't really play attacking mids. like, if we was to drop in the midfield he would need to do a job at both ends of the pitch, link play etc etc etc. we've specialised in turning attack-minded midfielders into more central midfiedlers (Hendo, Can, Gini, Lallana, Lucas, Ox etc) . but that would be total flipping of the script if we have a go at turning a forward into a Centre-mid! I'm sure he could do it! just think it would take a bit of time more than we would like.

he's beaut in the front 3, use him there. take advantage of his flexibility as a #10 to vary our formation / system from time to time.



15 Jan 2018 20:34:27
Eds n reds. now that's Karius is looking like getting a run of games, i would like to hear the kop pump him up a bit with a song. make him feel wanted by us and give him a bit of confidence. from the comments by Robertson saying hearing the crowd sing his name gave him goosebumps and obviously turned him into the energiser bunny haha it may very well give him that extra 10% to get him going. if it doesn't work then so be it, but atleast we can say we played our part to give him every chance. thoughts.?


{Ed002's Note - It seems most people here want him gone as well.}

1.) 15 Jan 2018 20:45:59
Swing low sweet chariot


2.) 15 Jan 2018 21:03:51
We have lost just one of the 22 Premier League and Champions League games that Karius has played for Liverpool since he arrived.

He has my full support, that’s for sure!

3.) 15 Jan 2018 21:15:14
Mine as well, hopefully he grabs his chance.

4.) 15 Jan 2018 21:18:13
It does seem that way Ed002. but those people should take a back seat until the end of the season and let the rest actually support him and just see what happens from here on in.

5.) 15 Jan 2018 21:33:43
Song? For gifting the opposition goals and making his backline unsure? Come on guys, I'm okay that he gets the support he needs now that Klopp has decided to publicly endorse him as a No. 1 a second time in his short Anfield career. But why should the Kop gift him a song? For his good looks or for his contributions on the putch?

6.) 15 Jan 2018 22:51:09
Disagree, Noski. The kid barely plays and when he does, he has good games and bad games BUT no rhythm. The kid needs to be playing and he will get his chance. It is up to him now, not me nor you as you clearly have no interest in supporting our player.

If you can you could bear a 29 yr old mistake in Migs for 4 season, riddled with more errors than any other GK in the PL during that span, I'm sure you can live with a young GK with up side and hope of improving for 4 months. I know I can.

7.) 15 Jan 2018 23:42:13
Noski, the OP just gave you a reason why to sing a song. You seem more entitled and will give if you receive. Sounds like a customer. Good stuff.

8.) 16 Jan 2018 01:53:15
BRover, irrespective of my personal view that Klopp has shielded Karius a lot and given him every opportunity to thrive, and irrespecrive of my personal view whether he'll ever make it as a No. 1 at Anfield or elsewhere, I agree that he should be given every opportunity to stake a claim for the shirt. But folks like Faithinworks going about being entitled is just plain ridiculous! Sing him a song, fly a plane over Anfield saying "I love you Karius. " Ridiculous! What makes a player deserve a song from the Kop? Fight for the shirt and show you care, and stop all these nonsense!



14 Jan 2018 11:16:58
The thought of Mane, Greizmann and salah infront of Firmino and Keita makes me moist.


1.) 14 Jan 2018 11:47:49
If you were Smurfett I'd get that statement.

2.) 14 Jan 2018 13:11:11
Ok first off, that was gross. On a more serious level, Greizmann won't be signing here.



02 Jan 2018 01:50:38
Hey ed002. A 6ft4 goal keeper with smooth hands.? Can you ask wonderdogsparky if im i getting warmer please.?


1.) 02 Jan 2018 09:46:41
Can't be Butland then because he's 6'5.

2.) 02 Jan 2018 10:26:43
It's VVD, 6ft4, long hair.




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17 May 2018 23:28:47
Hey Macca can u give some feedback as to whether these r definate players we are pushing to sign please.? And no right on list.? that would be upwards of £200m worth of players without buying a right back. also with Tarkowski im assuming that either means Lovren or Klavan are being sold or Gomez is sent on loan.?




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05 Mar 2018 11:17:44
Thanks ed002 i really appreciate your help 👌.




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27 Aug 2017 11:21:19
Fair enough ed. if that's the case it would need to be an old bloke like Manninger that isn't going to be ahead of either Karius or Ward in the pecking order.


{Ed002's Note - Sure, Manchester City has Bravo, Spurs Vorm, Bournemouth Boruc, Southampton Taylor, Chelsea Eduado etc.. It is a system that works well for most clubs as they can share experience and help out the younger keepers at the club and at least one side always supports them in getting their coaching badges and have them work with the youth sides. I understand reading some of the replies that many of the Grunts don't realise or understand such things. For me the issue Liverpool has is with the third choice Ward. He should have been loaned back to Huddersfield (who wanted him) and he would be getting some fantastic experience at the highest level and Liverpool could have gone and got another Manninger. For me, they could have let Ward have his loan and recruited an out of contract home grown goalkeeper like Ross Turnbull and have been in great shape.}



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27 Aug 2017 11:07:25
2 decent keepers is plenty. how often does a 3rd choice keeper make the bench, let alone actually play.


{Ed002's Note - You will find all Premier League clubs have three decent goalkeepes in their squad. Klopp has set his stall out with his goalkeepers (perhaps keeping quiet about the whole subject would have been advisable, but he didn't). If Mignolet were to be sold, and I know nothing at all of this "offer" from Napoli that is being suggested, Liverpool need another goalkeeper - whether you think all they need is two or not.}



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26 Aug 2017 10:36:46
Is it 1 of Van Dijk, Koulibaly or Howedes.?





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21 May 2018 11:42:07
He can play as a winger i beg to differ there mate he is capable. And nothing wrong with being a glorified Lallana, i actually really like Lallana as a player.




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21 May 2018 00:34:45
I was just about to post this as i have just read an article with him saying he would love to play for us again. and he also said how he and his agent agreed to put a 35m release clause in his contract which is quite affordable these days. not sure the eds have ever said if he is even being looked at tho so probably unlikely this summer. much prefer him to come in as the rotating winger that we need rather then Dembele or Lemar. and can also play in the front 3 midfield. he knows the club well and obviously loves the club as he said and won't cost an arm and a leg like the others linked. let's get him.! Haha.




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18 May 2018 08:50:32
Henderson or Cabellos will be the anchor in that midfield and Ox will be on bench if both Cabellos and Fekir sign.




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11 May 2018 16:05:27
Wasnt suppose to turn into a Sturridge chat. Got hammered by you lot in this thread for something u all misread. u guys realise i did actually say "2 of Origi Sturridge and Ings as backup to Firmino" and not "i would love sturridge to be our number 1 striker" right.? Gee wizz. he's going to be hard to sell and was a good impact sub for us before he left on loan. much better then what we have had from Ings and Solanke this season. but again i will reiterate that yes i would be more then happy if he left and kept Ings and Origi. the whole point of that comment wasnt for u guys to only focus on Sturridge, but about not needing to spend on a striker and being excited about what our squad is potentially going to be. far out. tough crowd u lot are.




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11 May 2018 01:40:31
Henderson, Keita, Fekir would be a quality midfield.