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17 Jun 2018 02:29:57
I have heard a wisper that liverpool are going to enquire about Trent Sainsbury the Australian CB.

Smurf

1.) 17 Jun 2018 06:44:22
Would he be allowed to play on a 4 o’clock kick off on a Sunday?


2.) 17 Jun 2018 07:16:19
He comes with a free drink and pack of crisps.

{Ed001's Note - only if you buy a butty.}


3.) 17 Jun 2018 08:06:34
Would work with our new away kit.


4.) 17 Jun 2018 08:24:52
Top 10 CB in the world. be a good partner for VVD to learn from.


5.) 17 Jun 2018 09:19:39
Classic case of being put in the shop window.


6.) 17 Jun 2018 10:57:20
He isn't a bad player if you have ever watched more than a couple of games of his. Don't think he's good enough for liverpool but a mid table prem team yes.


7.) 17 Jun 2018 11:47:11
Or sign that 70's Scottish player, Asda Hartford.


8.) 17 Jun 2018 12:58:00
Or a double whammy:

Clinton (s) Morrison (s)


9.) 17 Jun 2018 14:51:42
Or bring back John Aldiridge.


10.) 17 Jun 2018 15:22:03
If Klopp quits we should consider hiring Domenico Tedesco.


11.) 17 Jun 2018 15:40:19
the joke's getting a lidl old now guys.


12.) 17 Jun 2018 16:35:30
As long as he is co-operative in working towards our goals he could be a good signing.


13.) 17 Jun 2018 16:53:56
Go to Iceland. might get another berger.


14.) 17 Jun 2018 19:51:43
I really didn’t think it would go on this long? . ha ha.


15.) 18 Jun 2018 08:45:42
"I really didn't think it would go on this long" Asda been something going on? We could bring in Danny waitRose.


 

 

04 Jun 2018 01:20:52
New story out that Liverpool have bid £79m for Jan Oblak. even though this story is likely untrue it got me most haha.

Smurf

1.) 04 Jun 2018 03:37:33
Hahaha these stories are targeted towards unreal fans. We should have replaced Gerrard after the slip, lol. Instead of having the overly optimistic season and signing Lazar Markovic that summer. I remember people saying, but he has won the league wherever he has played.


2.) 04 Jun 2018 08:38:10
I don't know why you think this isn't true ;) my 'sauce' told me it's a done deal, medical today, announced 10am tomorrow!


3.) 04 Jun 2018 09:13:37
Is that a tomato sauce? Béchamel sauce? Mint sauce? There’s so many sauces to choose from! 🤔.


4.) 04 Jun 2018 09:30:35
I shouldn't be telling you Chardd but I'm in a good mood. Its Romesco, very reliable mate trust me. ;) .


5.) 04 Jun 2018 11:00:57
Oblak does not in any way suit the way we play. Unless klopp is changing his system to suit the goalkeeper.


 

 

05 Mar 2018 01:03:43
Hey eds n reds. just wondering if the eds could tell me whether Dani Ceballos is being looked at as a Jorginho type deep lying playmaker or is he being looked as a partner to Keita infront of that DLP.? Cheers.

Smurf

{Ed002's Note - I have not decided tactically how I will use him just yet.}


1.) 05 Mar 2018 11:17:44
Thanks ed002 i really appreciate your help 👌.


2.) 05 Mar 2018 18:34:46
The kid has hardly kicked a ball in top flight football, I don’t know how he would walk into our team!


3.) 05 Mar 2018 21:02:02
BD-He’s played over 100 top flight games.


4.) 06 Mar 2018 09:07:27
Harry, he played a lot of football for Betis before joining RM. hardly a kid.


 

 

29 Dec 2016 10:14:19
Hey eds. just wanting to know if im correct in thinking Sakho, Lucas and Ilori will be the only players to move on this coming transfer period.?

Smurf

{Ed001's Note - that is likely to be the case, though Michael Beale wanted Ilori to get a shot and was effusive in his praise of the lad before he left.}


1.) 29 Dec 2016 13:10:20
That is a shame!

Although I know he is not going to be "our saviour" I feel for the lad.

Are we assuming Gomez is going to be the 4th being used in the FA cup?

{Ed001's Note - if he is up to fitness by then. He is still feeling his way back.}


 

 

 

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02 Sep 2018 06:26:33
Eds n reds. after about 30 minutes in i was saying to myself "this might be the most complete, composed and in control performance i've seen from us" then whether it be us taking our foot off the pedal, liecester putting their foot down or maybe a bit of both, it was a completely different game. no idea why Keita was left on the bench.? I mean, i understand needing to bring our captain back in but leaving out Keita instead of Wijnaldum was a wierd 1 for me. he needs to play when fit and build that chemistry. who knows what goes on behind the scenes n reasons why tho. maybe its a matter of finding our best midfield mix or maybe rest and rotation.? Firmino i thought was very ordinary as was Wijnaldum and would hav brought on Sturridge and Keita for them 2 by about the 60 minute mark. But at the end of the day we have won 2-1 and if it wasnt for a ridiculous mistake by Alisson should have been a comfortable enough 2 nil win having been in my eyes totally outplayed the majority of the game. so its still very positive signs. And make no mistake about it that is a young but good quality Liecester team that will beat a lot of teams this season if they play the way they did against us. but were 4-0-0 all is well eds n reds 👌.

Smurf

1.) 02 Sep 2018 09:20:54
What concerns me is that we are seeing a slower, more tentative Keita going forward. Almost none of the driving, slashing runs forward, with the ball, that we saw in pre-season and with his previous team. Maybe he is still learning his teammates' positioning or team tactics, but he has to become an offensive threat once again, aside from his distribution and defensive work. That's what "box to box" is all about. And I do wish Fabinho starts making a contribution soon enough. 7 out of 9 goals scored are from the front 3. We're still not as "complete" a team as many people are saying; not until the midfield starts contribting with goals.


 

 

19 Jul 2018 06:39:27
Eds n reds. i would personally be more then happy if we don't bring in a Draxler or Fekir type player. as much that would be amazing, i would be more then happy to have Lallana rotating with Woodburn in that attacking midfield role. i mean, we have more then strengthened in pretty much every position needed. would love to see us fast track the development of Woodburn. plus i am also a big fan of Lallana as a player so would be happy for him to stay as a regular, assuming he is playing at that level he was before his long time out. again tho, i obviously wouldn't mind if we brough in Fekir or Draxler and do the same thing rotating with Woodburn but with how good this window has been for us i just feel its being greedy asking for or wanting another player of that calibre haha.

Smurf

1.) 19 Jul 2018 06:59:13
Hit agree by mistake was meant to disagree! So you don’t want to challenge for the title and improve the squad?


2.) 19 Jul 2018 06:51:51
We need a creative midfilder everyone knoes it. It would be a huge mistake to ignore.

{Ed025's Note - bloody hell booboy what more do you want?, if this was one of the manchester clubs or chelsea you would be saying that they are trying to buy the league and giving them pelters, just be happy with what has been done up to now mate..


3.) 19 Jul 2018 07:10:28
Of course he does pegleg, he wasn't saying that mate. Part of me agrees with him because I'm all for giving youngsters their chances but Fekir? I can't not want him at the club, he's brilliant and would be a fantastic addition. I do wonder what will happen with Woodburn though if somebody like Fekir did sign. Luckily the lad is only 18, he probably wouldn't get game time at Liverpool next season so in my opinion a loan would be the best option, at only 18, he has plenty of time to break through.


4.) 19 Jul 2018 07:23:59
Edd 25 is correct. It really does look like we are trying to buy the league.
I am going to put my admittedly thin reparation on the line by saying we win nothing this year. Possibly a 2nd place finish but 3rd is my thinking.
Also I'll add klopps gone after the season the owners won't want to splash the coach and get nothing in return.

{Ed025's Note - i dont know how you can say that walter, klopp is building a dynasty at liverpool and with the tremendous backing of FSG the future looks very rosy to me mate..


5.) 19 Jul 2018 07:33:10
I'm sure he says this stuff for a reaction Ed25 mate lol he can't be serious, surely, Walter? please tell me you aren't being serious mate.

I have always respected you as a poster, you have me in stitches at times mate but it's time to get positive and get behind this incredible team, good things are coming mate so it's time to be chuffed!


6.) 19 Jul 2018 07:52:29
Negativeredwalter, you should be running the country, you'd fit straight in with all the wallies 😂.


7.) 19 Jul 2018 07:53:16
We drew 12 games in the league last season, just under a third of our matches. Several of them were against relegation candidates including WBA (twice), Everton (twice) and Stoke.

We need a creative player desperately irrespective of how many players we have already signed, otherwise we will be in the mix for fourth, fifth and sixth place again.


8.) 19 Jul 2018 07:54:42
Haha. How can you be negative about fsg backing klopp all the way Walter? This is the start of something special and klopp is the man to take us forward as he has done each season so far. Titles may not be won this season but they are coming, with the players we are bringing in!


9.) 19 Jul 2018 07:57:34
I hope I’m wrong about Fekir, I just don’t share the love for him. I can’t see him being an automatic starter for us.


10.) 19 Jul 2018 08:24:10
As much as I’d like us to sign Fekir, we can wait it out, Keïta gives us creativity and drive in midfield and with Fabinho in the centre it can allow Henderson to get around the middle of the pitch. Centre midfield we are pretty strong and Shaqiri gives us more strength in the attacking third, not having Ox is a big loss, but we have enough depth to cope now.


11.) 19 Jul 2018 08:24:53
To be fair Ron, none of the midfield players will be automatic starters, they’ll all rotate with obviously some being higher up the food chain than others and starting a lot more than some lol.


12.) 19 Jul 2018 08:40:21
Salah being 100% serious. I am desperate for us to do well this season, probably more than you.
I just happen to think klopp will muck it up.
If we are honest over the last half a decade plus, klopp has been a serial looser. With the backing he's got, even though he said he wouldn't need much he will pay the price for failure
To aussie mark I never said the owners were bad. I just feel they want value for money and they won't be getting it under klopp.


13.) 19 Jul 2018 09:29:12
Ron, I think Klopp's obsession with fekir is more to do with his unique individual qualities (which our other players don't possess) than his overall ability as a footballer. Klopp will expect him to play around 75% of the games, especially when the opposition park the bus. Otherwise a midfield trio of Hendo, Fab and Nab looks the best balanced against top opposition. The CAM conundrum for Klopp requires a player with a particular skill set and Fekir seems to be the only one that fits Klopp's requirements. This has everything to do with Fekir being Klopp's ideal CAM rather than his overall ability as a footballer (which ain't too bad btw) .


14.) 19 Jul 2018 09:59:31
This is by the far the best window we have had for years and what has been needed to kick us on, not getting rid of our best and building on a good team, enjoy it.


 

 

07 Jul 2018 10:42:35
Question for Ed001 if your around. a year or so ago im pretty sure you told us Klopp had a plan to faze Henderson out over the next couple years. now with Fabinho coming in it seems this is the first step towards this. i do understand that we need 2 good players for each position, for injuries and rotation etc. I was just wondering your opinion of how hard or easy you think it would be to faze out a captain of your team without causing disruption in the team dynamic, or getting ugly and awkward behind the closed doors.? Henderson does come across as the type of guy that would be hurt by it obviously but also just get on with business and do wat he can to help the team. just after your opinion on this possible change over the next season or 2. other opinions welcome. cheers.

Smurf

{Ed001's Note - that is not what I said. I said they were going to check on Hendo's long term fitness and make a decision on whether or not to phase him out. So far he seems to be coping well and getting back to fitness, so I doubt it will be needed, fingers crossed.}


1.) 07 Jul 2018 13:05:15
Do you think the World Cup has helped or hindered ed?

{Ed001's Note - helped as he has had to prove his fitness by playing games in quick succession. Shows his body is up to it.}


2.) 07 Jul 2018 13:17:55
My only concern was Henderson playing twice a week, that shouldn’t have to happen now.


3.) 07 Jul 2018 14:01:44
Cheers ed. That’s fantastic. A fit Henderson will be brilliant for us and obviously great for him.

{Ed001's Note - fingers crossed mate.}


4.) 07 Jul 2018 15:30:14
While he may lost some pace, a fit Henderson can only add quality to our midfield.

I was watching Eng v Col the other day (i don't usually watch internationals but I had to feed my daughter in the middle of the night so might as well) and a lot of was made of Henderson's lack of touches during the match. Given that I wasn't particularly interested in the outcome of the game, I chose to focus on Henderson throughout.

What I thought the commentators and pundits failed to see was that Henderson was constantly re-positioning himself throughout the game to block passing channels, provide cover, put pressure and offer options for passing. He was also constantly telling others where and when to move, who to cover. So yes, he didn't touch the ball as much, but he kept the midfield compact and alert. And this wasn't even one of his better games.

His influence and contribution to the team, unfortunately, seems to be more significant off-the-ball. And given that most people can only follow the ball during a match, his strengths are severely underappreciated.


5.) 07 Jul 2018 18:43:16
A fit Hendo, a level headed Keita and Fabinho behind Mane, Firmino and Salah is bloody frightening for other teams! I just can't wait for the season to start.

I think Hendo will be fine now, as long as he's fit he has to start no matter what because he makes so much of a difference when on the pitch.

I find it funny you know, before the world cup so many people doubted Hendo, now people are finally seeing how good he can be.


6.) 07 Jul 2018 19:15:19
Salah, perhaps the lack of star quality in this Eng outfit forces people to look at other attributes and these happen to be Henderson's strengths?

Funnily, I notice some channels appear to be lauding him, for whatever reasons (and these are pundits that have hammered him for years! ) . Shows you that most people don't actually watch or think much about players; they just listen to the 'experts' and form their opinions. And when these 'experts' change their minds, they do too.


7.) 08 Jul 2018 13:19:01
Hendo only adds quality to our team and that has always been the case. It is those who watch him with preconceived biases like "he passes sideways, he does not take over a game or he lacks leadership" or the best: "He is no Souness or SG" nonsense, that have issues with him.

Also, Him not having to play twice a week as we already have Fab and Keita in the midfield, will only prolong his LFC career where he can play at full pelt due to the fact that Klopp rotates frequently and it helped us a lot last season and had freak injuries to Ox, Lallana, Can and even Salah in the CL final not happened out of the blue, we would have finished stronger and who knows, pulled of a coup in Kiev.


 

 

11 May 2018 02:37:36
So as a rough guess at our ins n outs for next season im getting super excited at the squad we are building. plenty players moved on if a buyer can be found for the players. Mignolet, Ward, Clyne, Emre, Grujic, Lallana, Markovic. then a decision has to be made on the striker options. i personally don't think we need to bring 1 in, i would be happy with 2 of Origi, Sturridge and Ings as backup for Firmino. as i think Solanke needs a good loan to Championship or lower Premier League club. so with the roughly 9 or so players moving on plus maybe more youth players like Wilson, Ojo, Kent etc. we are looking at RB, Winger, CAM, CDM and backup GK. Keita we know is coming in already. something like Fekir (CAM), Malcolm (Winger), Diawara (CDM), Periera (RB) and Reina (GK) . that would be incredible.! Although i have just picked Malcolm out randomly and i think interest in Periera is gone but as i said its just a rough guess by me. i really hope it ends up something along those lines that turns our squad into a real strenth in depth team that can rotate without really weakening us and be able to challenge on all fronts. exciting stuff. hope all is well eds n reds.

Smurf

{Ed0333's Note - you’d have Sturridge in the squad next season? I’d rather have Albert Steptoe he would move quicker and get injured less.


1.) 11 May 2018 05:07:16
We have no interest in Diawara and that is it! He is a stopper and as long as Klopp is here we won’t play with one either. We are looking at Deep lying playmakers in the mold of Jorginho.
Malcolm is exciting but I would prefer Bailey from leverkusen. Again not happening.
I would be happy with Fekir and Jorginho!


2.) 11 May 2018 05:58:56
I’d perhaps be happy with any of Origi, Solanke or Ings as a third but we need a new forward that’s able to compete with Mane, Salah, Firmino as none of the first three are capable of having a meaningful impact off the bench.

Please not Sturridge, sorry but he’s not what he used to be and doesn’t play the way Klopp needs the team to play.


3.) 11 May 2018 06:17:32
The only reason to keep Sturridge is to keep the medical staff from getting bored and that’s not worth his massive weekly wage.

Personally I think (actually Ed’s, is this possible? ) can’t we just release him? I don’t profess to know how this works in football but I’m pretty sure if I was being paid a huge salary to be amazing at my job, but was never there doing it, I would have been let go pretty quick! There must be some contract back stop to say if you can’t play for more than ‘x’ games or longer than a certain period the player isn’t fulfilling their side of the contract and it can be terminated?

Don’t get me wrong, he is supposed to be good to have around but tell you what, pay me half what you pay him a week, I will play the same number of games for LFC and I will be just as nice to have about. 🤣.

{Ed001's Note - we would have to pay up his contract in full, unless he agrees a deal for less in order to free himself up for another move.}


4.) 11 May 2018 06:35:14
Ings, Sturridge, Origi, Solanke takes you to the same point and ask you the same question. Why on earth do you need CF when you don’t play with one in the first eleven! How about finding the next false 9 rather than a CF? Or give me two exciting wingers who could play either side of Bobby!

{Ed001's Note - maybe so there is a plan B when A is not working?}


5.) 11 May 2018 10:29:04
I honestly believe Fekir could play false 9 if need be, while also playing as an attacking midfielder and winger depending on the circumstances. He looks like a better version of Coutinho with less shooting from 40 yards at every opportunity. A great dribbler, really likes to run at the defence just like Ox. Has scored a shed load of goals, good attitude (unlike some of the alternatives), a great set piece taker (which is what we are sorely lacking), coming into the prime of his career and, most importantly, gives us the ability to break down teams that sit deep and can score goals out of nothing. For me, Fekir isn’t just a preferable signing, its an absolute must.


6.) 11 May 2018 10:34:55
A fit Sturridge starts in our team in my opinion. I don't know how or where, but a fit Sturridge could easily score 25 goals a season and you don't leave out top class players.

The problem is a fit Sturridge is about as likely as Michael Jackson and Freddie Mercury doing a duet at Glastonbury later this year.

I hope he gets a good move elsewhere but the club shouldn't force him out when he only has a year left anyway. We gave him the contract and if he'd stayed fit the last few years, I'm sure we'd all expect him to be professional. Loyalty goes both ways. If you expect players to honour their contracts even If they improve vastly, you should expect the club to honour contracts even if injury plagues someones career. Talk of terminating his contract does not sit well with me. Integrity in football used to mean something.


7.) 11 May 2018 09:28:22
I thought Klavan was plan B ed? Lol.

{Ed001's Note - he is plan F.}


8.) 11 May 2018 14:04:19
Can someone please explain what this fable 'false 9' is? Sounds like its either an 8 or a 10. That's as close to 9 as you can get without being one. I heard Rodgers use it once and that's exactly the type of nonsense he'd come up with to use as a sound bite rather than having any substance.

It seems to me that a 9 is anyone who plays up top without tracking back much. Someone who just stays up top and waits for the ball. That is, if we're counting slightly deeper players who get more involved with build up play as false 9's.

Fekir is an attacking midfielder who can play anywhere along the front line as well. Therefore, you could argue that he's just an all round forward. Same with Bobby and even Sadio, to a degree.

However, take Sadio out of the false 9 argument for a minute and put him back in his usual position. Also, assume we sign Fekir or another like for like player this summer, does that mean we will be playing with 2 false 9's or a false 9 and a false 10? Add Sadio and Mo into the equation and we'll be playing with a false 9, a false 10 and 2 wing 9's. Am I right?

My head hurts.


9.) 11 May 2018 14:40:55
I would definitely go see that MK, 2 of the greatest for sure.

As for Sturridge, unfortunately for the lad I think his career is being forced and I don't ever see him getting back to full fitness. On his day he WAS one of the best strikers and as you say could put 25 away a season but even if he was fully fit, I think those days are gone.


10.) 11 May 2018 15:15:02
Oh Ed01,when did you start following “plans” 😂😂😂. There is only one plan in Liverpool and that’s klopp’s Exciting, Excellent, fluent, interchangeable front 3! Take out one and deploy a CF and we are pants!

{Ed001's Note - I give up, goes over your head this, if you think a front 3 can only be played one way then it is a waste of everyone's time you joining in this discussion. I am sure Klopp must never have managed with an out and out striker before, such as Lewandowski, for example, in a front 3, right?}


11.) 11 May 2018 15:35:43
You’re confusing yourself Bardzo mate - a false 9 is just a central attacker that tends to drop deeper into the playmaker role to get the ball, thereby drawing the CBs out and leaving space for the wingers to exploit in behind him. Firmino has played it to perfection this season, feeding Mane and Salah on many of their goals, but then he’s also capable of playing like a true 9 at times, getting into the box and scoring himself when the situation demands. That’s what makes him so good IMO.

Any ‘normal’ playmaker from midfield is simply a no.10 as they still have a striker ahead of them.

I agree with Ed though, and feel quite a few players in our side are capable of playing false 9, so it makes sense to have a more traditional striker somewhere in the team as a plan B when we’re struggling to break down teams sitting deep. Ings and Solanke are proper 9’s and I guess Klopp may have had Solanke in mind for this exact role, but both have struggled a bit this season. We need someone for those times when the opposition has 10 in the box for the last 20mins of a game and we have no other option but to bash the door down rather than keep trying to pick the lock.

Given how rarely we need that though, and how it’s so against our natural style of play, we’ll struggle to find a top striker willing to do that for us and sit on the bench most of the time (and god forbid we go back to the days of Benteke) which is why I don’t think Crouchy is a bad shout at all for a third or fourth choice striker, crazy as it may seem! His whole game is built around doing exactly that.


12.) 11 May 2018 16:05:27
Wasnt suppose to turn into a Sturridge chat. Got hammered by you lot in this thread for something u all misread. u guys realise i did actually say "2 of Origi Sturridge and Ings as backup to Firmino" and not "i would love sturridge to be our number 1 striker" right.? Gee wizz. he's going to be hard to sell and was a good impact sub for us before he left on loan. much better then what we have had from Ings and Solanke this season. but again i will reiterate that yes i would be more then happy if he left and kept Ings and Origi. the whole point of that comment wasnt for u guys to only focus on Sturridge, but about not needing to spend on a striker and being excited about what our squad is potentially going to be. far out. tough crowd u lot are.


13.) 11 May 2018 16:13:28
Lewandoswki wouldn’t get inot the current liverpool side Ed01.

{Ed001's Note - as a plan B though....}


14.) 11 May 2018 16:36:58
Ha ha ha Ed01. I would rather Harry Wilson or an exciting winger as a back up! This system is built for wingers / wide forwards whose biggest weapon is PACE!
At no point during a match I would bring on a striker into the team! We have scored over 100 goals without a striker. We don’t need one!

{Ed001's Note - what happens if Firmino is out?}


15.) 11 May 2018 17:58:15
Play Salah or Mane centrally absolutely introduce the winger on the flanks! Simple.


16.) 11 May 2018 19:25:47
SGred, my post probably wasn't tongue in cheek enough. I know what a false 9 is supposed to be but to me that's just a support striker, or what a number 10 used to be. It's just another expression (which is meant to sound fancy but just sounds like jargon) to describe the evolution of a modern forward. Firmino plays as a 'false 9' but actually plays as a number 9 because we have no target man, so to speak. What I mean is the modern game at the top level is evolving so that it is a prerequisite of nearly all forwards to play that role, therefore leaving a false 9 as null and void, thus becoming a number 9, forward or striker once again.

We actually play with our wingers often the furthest forward and one in particular as an outside striker or wing 9. It's a fallacy, however. Salah is a winger. Firmino is a striker. Fekir would be an attacking mid (in the main) . I'm just having a dig at the phrase 'false 9' really. It only came about because Spain decided to play without a striker for a few games and the commentators and pundits didn't know what to do.


 

 

15 Mar 2018 20:45:31
Eds n Reds. not sure the reaction i will get but for next season i would prefer we bring in a striker like Werner and move Firmino into midfield. i just think he would be perfect along side Keita with his pressing and creativity and would also add goals from midfield which is needed in my opinion. im not sure if we are looking at bringing in a CB but i think a quality CB, Jorginho and Werner strengthens along all lines. i mean how strong does a midfield of Jorginho, Firmino and Keita behind Mane, Werner and Salah seem. maybe im dreaming but it seems semi realistic to me. don't get me wrong i love what Firmino has done as striker but we need creativity and goals from midfield and im not sure Keita alone will be enough to take us to the level we are looking at getting to. adding more pace and goals to our front 3 would be freightening let alone adding more goals and creativity to midfield aswell. thoughts.?

Smurf

1.) 15 Mar 2018 20:52:15
Who knows, Klopp might just go down that route. I think we need another option in attack but I wouldn’t mess with the Mane, Bobby, Salah combination because they work so well together.
It ain’t broke, don’t try and fix it.

We do need another option though against bus parkers.


2.) 15 Mar 2018 21:16:12
I also agree we do need another option but I wouldn't move Firmino in a million years, he's at his best in this position, I don't want to see his form drop by moving him about.


3.) 15 Mar 2018 21:24:08
I like the idea id we are playing a 4-2-2-2, 4-2-3-1 or something like. but in our current system I feel like Firmino wuold take a good couple of seasons to settle into one of the 2 box to box midfield roles we play.


4.) 15 Mar 2018 21:36:44
Firmino's unpredictable movement up front is a big part of how we create space in attack. A lot of the time defenders are left with a choice between being pulled out of position by his movement, handing him off to someone else (which can go wrong if a ball comes forward at the wrong time or they just don't communicate properly) or outright leaving him drop into space unmarked, all of which helps stretch and upset opposition defenders.

Firmino has the technical ability to be a good attacking midfielder, but if he was coming from deeper positions instead of starting up top and wandering about, he'd be easier to predict and we'd probably need to reshape our attack a bit. Not a good idea, imo.

Obviously Firmino can't play every game and we do need another option, but said option wouldn't be first choice.


5.) 15 Mar 2018 21:52:07
I actually think it would be a much easier transition to that role then his move to striker. i mean he was naturally an attacking mid transformed to a striker anyway. obviously im on the outer with this idea but i really think having his qualities in midfield would make a world of difference alongside Keita. obviously goals are only an issue for us with teams that sit back against us. more pace up top and more creativity in midfield helps towards fixing that issue.


6.) 15 Mar 2018 22:55:39
My fear is not where Bobby plays but who. could take over if he suffers and injury. He is so critical to the team and I'm the most talented mportant player.


7.) 16 Mar 2018 01:35:20
No you play your best player at cf. He is a forward, our attack is class.


8.) 16 Mar 2018 05:37:09
Well put Something Red. I wouldn’t start him in midfield in a 4-3-3 but a switch to 4-2-3-1 with Werner at striker ahead of Mane, Firmino, Salah and Hendo/ Keita at base of midfield would be one hell of a team.


9.) 16 Mar 2018 07:05:59
We need a player like Son. Someone who plays attacking mid and can play striker if needed.


10.) 16 Mar 2018 07:25:48
Whoever you get, has to agree to be Bobbie's deputy and NO top class or up and coming striker like Werner will come here and do that so people prolly wanna lower their expectations on the level of striker we could get. Just saying.


11.) 16 Mar 2018 10:53:14
smurf - it all sounds good. just pointing out that we don't really play attacking mids. like, if we was to drop in the midfield he would need to do a job at both ends of the pitch, link play etc etc etc. we've specialised in turning attack-minded midfielders into more central midfiedlers (Hendo, Can, Gini, Lallana, Lucas, Ox etc) . but that would be total flipping of the script if we have a go at turning a forward into a Centre-mid! I'm sure he could do it! just think it would take a bit of time more than we would like.

he's beaut in the front 3, use him there. take advantage of his flexibility as a #10 to vary our formation / system from time to time.


 

 

 

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06 Jul 2018 03:27:00
Probly cheaper then asensio. maybe €100m rather than €150 but never in a million years is that happening. would jizz my jocks if it was true tho.

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17 Jun 2018 08:24:52
Top 10 CB in the world. be a good partner for VVD to learn from.

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31 May 2018 11:49:22
Could you please elaborate just a bit for us mere mortals ed2.?

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17 May 2018 23:28:47
Hey Macca can u give some feedback as to whether these r definate players we are pushing to sign please.? And no right on list.? that would be upwards of £200m worth of players without buying a right back. also with Tarkowski im assuming that either means Lovren or Klavan are being sold or Gomez is sent on loan.?

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05 Mar 2018 11:17:44
Thanks ed002 i really appreciate your help 👌.

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18 Sep 2018 12:13:05
Harry Kewell.

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31 Jul 2018 10:25:36
Shaqiri is definately capable of playing that role. plus Lallana will be back fit and Keita could also play that role. we are way stronger in midfield then we were last season 👌.

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31 Jul 2018 01:37:42
Please tell me this is a stitch up. i know ed02 said ages ago he flirted with them but also i reckon both eds hav said there will be no efforts to sell him atleast for this upcoming season. unfortunately with the amount we have spent on players i can see us potentially selling to recoup most if not more then our spending this summer. would any eds like to elaborate on this please.?

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16 Jul 2018 02:13:04
Hi ed002. do you have any more info on outgoing midfielders e. g possibly Wijnaldum, Lallana, Milner.? if we are still looking at bringing in a Draxler type attacking mid/ winger then we will be well overstocked in midfield in my opinion. i would have thought 1 or 2 might have to move on.? Cheers for the sharkopod too mate.

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{Ed002's Note - I agree, Liverpool have more than sufficient players in midfield but a "Coutinho" type replacement would not be part of the midfield per se but would form part of the attack with Mane, Salah, Shaqiri and the strikers. This is where is an issue if Klopp were to play an attacking four - there is then on room for two midfield players (and remember Fabinho is a defensive midfield player). So something needs to give. As I said, Wijnaldum would be one who could make way. It would not be a surprise to see this season perhaps being the last playing for Liverpool. There have been no efforts by the club to sell Lallana.}


 

 

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07 Jul 2018 00:08:12
"Pre-Madonna" 😂.

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