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29 Dec 2016 10:14:19
Hey eds. just wanting to know if im correct in thinking Sakho, Lucas and Ilori will be the only players to move on this coming transfer period.?

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{Ed001's Note - that is likely to be the case, though Michael Beale wanted Ilori to get a shot and was effusive in his praise of the lad before he left.}


1.) 29 Dec 2016 13:10:20
That is a shame!

Although I know he is not going to be "our saviour" I feel for the lad.

Are we assuming Gomez is going to be the 4th being used in the FA cup?

{Ed001's Note - if he is up to fitness by then. He is still feeling his way back.}


 

 

 

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15 Jan 2018 20:34:27
Eds n reds. now that's Karius is looking like getting a run of games, i would like to hear the kop pump him up a bit with a song. make him feel wanted by us and give him a bit of confidence. from the comments by Robertson saying hearing the crowd sing his name gave him goosebumps and obviously turned him into the energiser bunny haha it may very well give him that extra 10% to get him going. if it doesn't work then so be it, but atleast we can say we played our part to give him every chance. thoughts.?

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{Ed002's Note - It seems most people here want him gone as well.}


1.) 15 Jan 2018 20:45:59
Swing low sweet chariot


YNWA.


2.) 15 Jan 2018 21:03:51
We have lost just one of the 22 Premier League and Champions League games that Karius has played for Liverpool since he arrived.

He has my full support, that’s for sure!


3.) 15 Jan 2018 21:15:14
Mine as well, hopefully he grabs his chance.


4.) 15 Jan 2018 21:18:13
It does seem that way Ed002. but those people should take a back seat until the end of the season and let the rest actually support him and just see what happens from here on in.


5.) 15 Jan 2018 21:33:43
Song? For gifting the opposition goals and making his backline unsure? Come on guys, I'm okay that he gets the support he needs now that Klopp has decided to publicly endorse him as a No. 1 a second time in his short Anfield career. But why should the Kop gift him a song? For his good looks or for his contributions on the putch?


6.) 15 Jan 2018 22:51:09
Disagree, Noski. The kid barely plays and when he does, he has good games and bad games BUT no rhythm. The kid needs to be playing and he will get his chance. It is up to him now, not me nor you as you clearly have no interest in supporting our player.

If you can you could bear a 29 yr old mistake in Migs for 4 season, riddled with more errors than any other GK in the PL during that span, I'm sure you can live with a young GK with up side and hope of improving for 4 months. I know I can.


7.) 15 Jan 2018 23:42:13
Noski, the OP just gave you a reason why to sing a song. You seem more entitled and will give if you receive. Sounds like a customer. Good stuff.


8.) 16 Jan 2018 01:53:15
BRover, irrespective of my personal view that Klopp has shielded Karius a lot and given him every opportunity to thrive, and irrespecrive of my personal view whether he'll ever make it as a No. 1 at Anfield or elsewhere, I agree that he should be given every opportunity to stake a claim for the shirt. But folks like Faithinworks going about being entitled is just plain ridiculous! Sing him a song, fly a plane over Anfield saying "I love you Karius. " Ridiculous! What makes a player deserve a song from the Kop? Fight for the shirt and show you care, and stop all these nonsense!


 

 

14 Jan 2018 11:16:58
The thought of Mane, Greizmann and salah infront of Firmino and Keita makes me moist.

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1.) 14 Jan 2018 11:47:49
If you were Smurfett I'd get that statement.


2.) 14 Jan 2018 13:11:11
Ok first off, that was gross. On a more serious level, Greizmann won't be signing here.


 

 

02 Jan 2018 01:50:38
Hey ed002. A 6ft4 goal keeper with smooth hands.? Can you ask wonderdogsparky if im i getting warmer please.?

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1.) 02 Jan 2018 09:46:41
Can't be Butland then because he's 6'5.


2.) 02 Jan 2018 10:26:43
It's VVD, 6ft4, long hair.


 

 

30 Aug 2017 09:08:35
Eds n Reds, I feel like we are at a point where we have to choose between either Henderson or Emre. My reasoning is i don't see Emre as a permanent CM in our midfield looking at how our team is evolving. obviously Coutinho was going to be alongside Keita infront of Henderson in an ideal world. That hasn't happened this year so there will be opportunities this season, but i feel like Emre sees things this way and is reluctant to sign because of it. i actually think its fair enough on his behalf, at only 23 he's at a level where a team like Juventus are willing to give him the assurances he might be after rather than playing as, in my mind Hendersons back up. personally i would be making the call to make Emre our CDM. that tho is very easy for ME to say, but i think from a managers point of view it would be really diffucult to make that call, on the Captain of a team that apear from the outside to be very close knit and are right now playing good football together. Henderson is also a top professional and i think a good leader. But is that enough if someone is proving to be the better option.? And when is the right time to make that sort of call.? Especially in Emre's case who is willing to run his contract down and move on. Thoughts.?

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1.) 30 Aug 2017 09:37:39
Can likes to drive forward with the ball. So when deploying him to any role you have to consider this attribute.


2.) 30 Aug 2017 09:39:33
Why would you waste can as a defensive mid?


3.) 30 Aug 2017 09:50:19
It's a good point made, I think everyone here knows what Hendo brings, but the way we could line up in midfield next year, it would be great to secure Can . He has improved so much and influences games much more .
If it was one or the other ide prefer we had Can, . Klopp has shown he can be ruthless, which is no bad thing .


4.) 30 Aug 2017 09:51:40
There is a justifiable debate about who's the better player between Hendo and Can, there are certainly things Can does better than Hendo but there are a lot of people, and it seems Klopp is one of them, who see Hendo as the more effective player.

Hendo brings discipline and control to the team, something equally important to flair and creativity. He's also our only player who has that quality. Can has a lot of talent but would I put him in team if I had Hendo, Coutinho and Keita (assuming he's as good as we're told he is) available? No I wouldn't.


5.) 30 Aug 2017 10:07:44
The beauty of playing both of them is when one goes forward the other sits and knows the position, If Emre is having no luck then he switches with Henderson it happened against arsenal all the time when Hendo pressed hard Can dropped in and stayed to cover while Hendo did the leg work I do think with both on top form with the addition of Gigi or whoever it will be very difficult for any team to beat them.


6.) 30 Aug 2017 10:34:08
Can scores goals which is vital when you play two B2B players as well Wiji. Henderson simply doesn't!


7.) 30 Aug 2017 10:55:35
Harry, Can wouldn't be scoring those goals if he was playing in Hendo's position.


 

 

24 Aug 2017 13:23:40
Eds n reds. im after some opinons. referring to Mignolet and maybe positions in general, how many games should you give before dropping a player.? Is 4 not good but not bad games enough.? I think probably yes considering the other 2 young options both need their chance as otherwise why keep 3 decent keepers. Having said that, if it was 1 of Ward or Karius that had played the exact same 4 games i would be more willing to give more time then with mignolet. thoughts.?

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1.) 24 Aug 2017 14:00:04
We have 3 keepers and Klopp thinks Migs is the best at the moment. End of.


2.) 24 Aug 2017 14:00:36
I think 4 games is enough for mugs because he's had almost 4 years to cement that place and every time we see improvement he then regresses. I think we need to make a call and give one of the other 2 a sustained run in the team and stick by them regardless of errors ( at least for a while)


3.) 24 Aug 2017 14:01:08
Migs has had more than enough time, let's not forget he was a premier league keeper before we got him so should've been of a certain quality from the off. the other time i'm more inclined to give more leeway. Karius new league etc. Ward first season in the prem.


4.) 24 Aug 2017 14:05:07
I would give him (mig) a run of at least 10 games but having said that he's had 3 seasons and barring an ok stint toward the end of last year he has never convinced so personally think ward deserves a chance but possibly will get it in efl cup and see how that goes then maybe a run of games for him. Kauris deserves a go but behind our defence as it is I think most keepers would struggle.

We play very high and that works in other less competitive leagues where the same couple of teams win every game but pl is higher tempo every game as pep is also finding and a balance has to be found. This is imo the reason for conte and morhino success in our league as they sort defending out first and let the flair players do there thing at the other end but neither is so committed to a style to just say let's grind a result out in any specific game!


5.) 24 Aug 2017 14:24:23
Wait until we lose.


6.) 24 Aug 2017 14:30:26
I would play Karius in a few cup games and if does well then rotate him in. Then play Ward in cup games and if he does well sell Migs.


7.) 24 Aug 2017 14:35:01
Looks like we might be bringing in a new centre back and maybe a defensive midfielder, also we have a new left back and TAA is new to the right back position, so I would wait a little bit longer and until the defence is settled in before making a decision either way, I think it would be suicide to play karius again right now with how unpredictable our defence is, it would be like putting him right back into the firing line.


8.) 24 Aug 2017 15:09:12
The only cup games (unless you mean CL as well) up until Xmas is the league cup and then that's only 1 game a month and that's if we win them.


9.) 24 Aug 2017 15:41:24
This was covered pretty well by ed001 yesterday. Migs form has not been good this season, and this has been made more unacceptable by the fact he has shown that he can perform to the required standard in the latter parts of last season, and let those standards slip. I would give Ward a chance as Karius has not managed to either impress when called upon or displace Migs.


10.) 24 Aug 2017 15:43:00
Karius should be given the chance, MIGs is a good shot stopper but he is unreliable under high balls etc. That attempted punch and then catch last night is a perfect example of that and it spreads fear through the team.


 

 

 

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27 Aug 2017 11:21:19
Fair enough ed. if that's the case it would need to be an old bloke like Manninger that isn't going to be ahead of either Karius or Ward in the pecking order.

Smurf

{Ed002's Note - Sure, Manchester City has Bravo, Spurs Vorm, Bournemouth Boruc, Southampton Taylor, Chelsea Eduado etc.. It is a system that works well for most clubs as they can share experience and help out the younger keepers at the club and at least one side always supports them in getting their coaching badges and have them work with the youth sides. I understand reading some of the replies that many of the Grunts don't realise or understand such things. For me the issue Liverpool has is with the third choice Ward. He should have been loaned back to Huddersfield (who wanted him) and he would be getting some fantastic experience at the highest level and Liverpool could have gone and got another Manninger. For me, they could have let Ward have his loan and recruited an out of contract home grown goalkeeper like Ross Turnbull and have been in great shape.}


 

 

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27 Aug 2017 11:07:25
2 decent keepers is plenty. how often does a 3rd choice keeper make the bench, let alone actually play.

Smurf

{Ed002's Note - You will find all Premier League clubs have three decent goalkeepes in their squad. Klopp has set his stall out with his goalkeepers (perhaps keeping quiet about the whole subject would have been advisable, but he didn't). If Mignolet were to be sold, and I know nothing at all of this "offer" from Napoli that is being suggested, Liverpool need another goalkeeper - whether you think all they need is two or not.}


 

 

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26 Aug 2017 10:36:46
Is it 1 of Van Dijk, Koulibaly or Howedes.?

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01 Aug 2017 23:08:28
U obviously didn't understand wat im saying mate. its not about the players wanting to join us cos all of them have been willing to. its other reasons why the others haven't joined.

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01 Aug 2017 08:23:04
Jayden how hasn't it backed that up.? Salah, Van Dijk, Keita are all in that top bracket of players and want to or are playing for us. its other reasons we haven't got them all. i think macca said even Mendy was willing to come to us. the clubs dealings is the major issue this window and other bad past dealings effecting our chance of getting Sessegnon from Fulham, not the players themselves wanting to play for us.

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29 Jan 2018 10:49:29
Aaron Mooy.

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15 Jan 2018 21:18:13
It does seem that way Ed002. but those people should take a back seat until the end of the season and let the rest actually support him and just see what happens from here on in.

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11 Jan 2018 01:06:47
Firmino and Assaidi.

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24 Aug 2017 11:45:05
Firmino will because he will be our penalty taker and rack up an extra 10 this season.

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10 Aug 2017 08:10:48
So Ed002 are you saying that Barcelona will move on and buy their 3rd choice Iniesta replacement this summer instead of waiting for Veratti or Coutinho next season.?

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{Ed002's Note - I don't know what their plan is right now but they had some other options thay had been considering, but they would certainly prefer Verratti or Pipco.}