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12 Jun 2019 10:31:20
Apparently Milan are interested in Lovren is there any truth in this?

The Southern Red

{Ed002's Note - Lovren (CB) seen as a cheap option to preferred targets given the significant issues there are in Milan.}


1.) 12 Jun 2019 14:23:21
Lovren is valued at 25 million apparently. And, if I remember correctly, AC Milan are in a poor financial situation. I don't see this happening.

Lovren is a capable 3rd or 4th option and I suspect he would be happy to be used as such for at least a season. He seems to really like Liverpool, is close friends with a number of players (Particualrly Salah) and is coming off a Champions League winning season. I doubt there would be much reason to leave.

If he does go, who would be an adequate replacement? They would need to be prepared to wait on the sides, while Matip, Gomez and Van Dijk stand ahead of the queue for those two spots. Fry, possible, but it would do little for his career. Fry needs to be playing games, not sitting on the bench of a top team, watching his career wither away.

If Lovren does leave then, ideally, we would need to target someone older, whose prepared to train hard but with full knowledge that they may be used sparingly.

Personally, I hope Lovren stays. Decent player who just needs to overcome these constant injuries, similar to Gomez.


2.) 12 Jun 2019 14:42:20
Think it would be good business for Liverpool if interested in de ligt. Vvd clear first choice Gomez often deployed at right back and matip a solid rotation option. Be interesting if this has legs. Lovren is a quality cb until he makes a mistake and then he can be calamitous. Also heard a rumour that he suffers with on going back problems don't know if there's any truth to that.


3.) 12 Jun 2019 15:54:06
I'd snatch their hands off personally if there is any truth in this. I'd say Lovren was the worst of the CBs in our first team squad and at his age we should be looking to move him on.


4.) 12 Jun 2019 16:29:14
If he left we could possibly promote Hoever to 4th choice. Ideal opportunity for him to develop.

{Ed002's Note - He is a child and count train full time.}


5.) 12 Jun 2019 17:03:47
ed002 what's your take on Lovren would he be looking to move and would the club be looking to move him on.
He turns 30 next month so if a bid of £25m came in I think the club would be very silly to turn it down. As he has slipped down the pecking order.

{Ed002's Note - Neither.}


6.) 12 Jun 2019 20:42:06
If a 25m bid comes in, we'll sell Lovren, no doubt about it. We wouldn't get 25m for Matip and he's the better of the two. I think we'd bring in a younger player to improve and grow into the role, rather than an older one.


 

 

12 Jun 2019 10:31:20
Apparently Milan are interested in Lovren is there any truth in this?

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28 May 2019 20:11:40
Any truth in the West Ham interest in Shaqiri?

The Southern Red

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any approach at this time.}


1.) 28 May 2019 21:11:06
Thanks 002!

Your service to queen and country is mucho appreciated.

{Ed002's Note - My country doesn’t have a Queen.}


2.) 28 May 2019 22:11:30
Then you haven't been to enough cabaret Ed.


3.) 29 May 2019 19:11:50
It’s too bad your country doesn’t have a president either.

{Ed002's Note - Right.}


 

 

15 Feb 2019 18:14:01
Confirmed Allan back to Fluminense all the best to the fella, shame it’s not worked out so far!

The Southern Red

1.) 17 Feb 2019 09:39:19
Another victim of our recruitment policy.


2.) 17 Feb 2019 12:27:51
Too right Ron. Plucking a yoyng man from him comfortable home with no plan on how to benefit us, multiple randon loans all over the place givning him no chance to settle and kick on. Really infuriating that we do this, Anyowini (sp? ) and this Anderson Arroyo next.


3.) 17 Feb 2019 14:19:14
It was a work permit issue, I get what you are saying, but you cannot blame it strictly on the recruitment policy.


4.) 17 Feb 2019 15:43:02
They should be well aware of the work permit rules. How about this, if they need a special exemption for a work permit, target someone else? If they are not a player who is going to add something to the first team, why bother spending hundreds of thousands of pounds on them.


5.) 17 Feb 2019 22:02:03
And another one of BR's "mindless splurges" bites the dust.


6.) 21 Feb 2019 10:38:23
Hey at least he got to win some silverware, he's a champion of Finland! Still only 21 and has already lived in six countries, I wish i was as well traveled at his age.


 

 

13 Feb 2019 11:29:15
Rumour has it that allan has moved back to brazil on loan.

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1.) 13 Feb 2019 12:55:26
"Rumour has it" - Lemar back on the cards?

{Ed025's Note - "if theres any justice in the world" he will be zed.. :)


2.) 13 Feb 2019 13:24:51
I heard right about now it's fifty fifty.


3.) 13 Feb 2019 21:33:46
Ed025. Surely if we did buy Lemar we’d have to give him time to grow?

{Ed025's Note - nice one DPG..


4.) 14 Feb 2019 14:01:14
I remember when he made his debut on The Word,
He was up his own backside in those days with his 59s throwback hairstyle 🙄.


5.) 14 Feb 2019 14:59:57
You got the right guy there Ron?


6.) 14 Feb 2019 08:12:56
I've heard he's pretty 'dedicated' Ed. ;) Should sign him up.

{Ed025's Note - good stuff KK..


 

 

 

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11 Jun 2019 17:25:17
with both Duncan and Glatzel performing exceptionally, do you think we may see either of them head out on loan?

i know they are still young but could be good experience for them.

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1.) 11 Jun 2019 18:54:14
I'd keep them together and around the club this for this season at least. They'll be looking at Brewsters integration as the benchmark to reach next. They can't all break in to the team at once. Competing and some healthy rivalry might benefit. They are still only 18, no need to send them anywhere yet. I'd maybe think Curtis Jones should go on loan though maybe. He's spent time around our first team now, he knows the levels that are set. If the right club wanted him, let him play.


2.) 11 Jun 2019 19:40:27
They've hardly even played any u23 football yet, let them have a season together at that level where hopefully they can keep up their great partnership. Jones on the other hand has had 2 seasons at that level and is either ready to take someone like Lallana's place in the squad or get a good loan somewhere. Still think Jones can be a 1st teamer for us in a coupla years if he shows the right attitude.


 

 

11 Jun 2019 10:28:56
Hi Ed’s you have mentioned that Keita may of been a mistake. Are you able to expand a bit on that.

I know you mentioned he hasn’t bothered to learn English which is an issue.

Do you think we would ever think of moving him on?

I am hoping that he will be able to push on and maybe a kick up the backside oven preseason!

The Southern Red

{Ed002's Note - It is not about moving him on it is about ejaculating significant amounts of money for little return.}


1.) 11 Jun 2019 16:08:15
Fully agreed Ed002. Ejaculation is no small matter and not enough people take it seriously!


2.) 11 Jun 2019 16:13:44
He was playing well before his injury and had been given a starting place in the side in some huge games. Just needs to carry that form into next season now.


3.) 11 Jun 2019 17:22:51
i hope he does ejaculate soon, am hoping he becomes a s-permanent fixture on our team sheet.


4.) 11 Jun 2019 18:17:01
I'm sorry, I didn't catch that, The Southern Red, come again?


5.) 11 Jun 2019 18:30:23
Don't worry lads he'll be a regular scorer in the box next season.


6.) 11 Jun 2019 18:38:55
He'll hit the ground running next season. I'm expecting him to have a really good campaign.


7.) 11 Jun 2019 18:50:09
Err okay, this is getting creepy.


8.) 11 Jun 2019 19:52:08
I don't see how any Ed can say Keita was a mistake far far too early to make that call I think maybe they said give him time to adjudt
the prem took legends like Bergkamp and Henry time to get used to
so why should Keita be judged any differently?


9.) 11 Jun 2019 20:40:31
Zed, you're asking Southern Red to come again. Big question is can he? 🤐.


10.) 11 Jun 2019 20:48:36
I’m sure he’ll be fine after a nap, Ra 😉.


11.) 12 Jun 2019 15:02:32
I thought Naby had a good first season. Had injuries but towards the end he was gelling.
The club will obviously want more next season but I think he'll improve.
I enjoyed watching him.


 

 

10 Jun 2019 11:07:27
I read recently that wilson will get a chance in pre season, I know previously it’s been said that he will he sold, but do you think he has at least earnt an opportunity to prove himself in pre season?

I know aswell one of the Ed’s says he doesn’t work hard enough to be considered for our squad, but isn’t that something you can change quite easily?

Are there any other aspects of his game that worry you?

The Southern Red

1.) 10 Jun 2019 11:28:42
Work rate can't be an easy fix or shaq wouldn't be in the predicament he finds himself in.


2.) 10 Jun 2019 11:46:31
I think the plan is probably still the same. He's earned a pre season and the club should rightly give him the chance he wants. But I still feel a sale is what we want, he will attract interest and later in the window might bring a better price.
Ed any clue if we would consider a loan to premier league team or is the feeling now is the time to cash in?

{Ed001's Note - as far as I can find out, a sale is wanted. He simply does not do enough and goes missing for large portions of games.}


3.) 10 Jun 2019 11:48:37
Ed02 says Wilson is likely to leave LFC.


4.) 10 Jun 2019 11:52:21
Yeah p1 but old dogs and new tricks etc.

Wilsons workrate is something that can change and i agree with the OP so far as to say it could be changed quite easily. Remember, the lad has been playing under lampard who although a brilliant player, if there was one down side to his game, it was his defensive work rate or lack of.

I think the kids has definitely earned a chance in pre season. I actually think he should be given a season. If he doesn't make the grade then sell him.

{Ed001's Note - in what way has he earnt a shot? I keep hearing people say that but I just don't see it. He does not convince me at all.}


5.) 10 Jun 2019 13:00:13
It's not just work rate as any reason. He does not fit our team, he's not pacy, has no aggression in attacking a ball or space and his reading of the game hasn't been proven. He gets good numbers and can strike a clean ball but even at championship level he can't dominate games. He's a much less accomplished shaqiri. He plays from the right side but none of his attributes make him a good fit. Klopp knows him best and it's clearly obvious he's not in his plans full stop. He plays like Robert Snodgrass, looks technically superior in lesser surroundings but I can't see him suddenly being able to offer us anything more than set piece ability and long shots. Other than that he'd only be a passenger.


6.) 10 Jun 2019 13:05:46
Id let him have a few weeks of training but ultimately offers of anything over 20mil for a player yet to kick a ball in premier league at 22 years has to be accepted. If we can get 10 for Camacho and Kent each too with the 20 for ings that's a possible 60 million income for guys who've with hardly 20 Liverpool games between them.


7.) 10 Jun 2019 13:07:56
p1 what mean is that work rate can be instilled in anyone who is truly committed to improving and becoming the best, whereas talent isn’t something you can easily teach.

Thanks ed, I thought as much. I know he has quite a few goals but as you say his contribution does vary quite a lot. Then again who knows what could happen in the future.


8.) 10 Jun 2019 14:53:42
Ed01, i dunno. i've seen him play only a handful of games. And on all but one he ran the game.

And that free kick against utd and the 5 times celebration! Maybe red tinted glasses.

I think playing with lads, no men, like gini and hendo would bring out the best in him. Liverpool have a history of signing players who stormed the 2nd division or now the championship. Wilson certainly did storm the champ.

And he looks like torres!

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool want to sell him.}


9.) 10 Jun 2019 14:55:08
I think the opposite actually southern. As a grown adult man it's not so easy for your mentality to be trained or forced to think differently. By the way im not calling wilson a lazy or carefree person at all but I can't think of many examples of players who have changed these characteristics mid career. Whereas talent can always be improved. Look at players like Ronaldo. Trained so hard to perfect his skills, nani didn't look any less talented at that age but never physically trained and applied to the levels Ronaldo did. Guys like ravel Morrison, Adel taarabt, Kevin Prince boeting, balotelli, Ben arfa. These guys you could tell were never able to succeed as they naturally had an unsuitable mindset to do so. Wilson is far from this type, but it's certain things he won't possibly be able to offer no matter how hard he tries. He is slow naturally and will always be, his pace hinders his aggression then to press intensily and his pace also hinders his threat to break on the counter or supporting runs will always be easily defended. Shaqiri doesn't get considered in that right wing role so no chance Wilson will. His technique and his ability to play the ball are his only strengths. He can improve on them qualities through training and practice but his lack of pace will always make him a winger the opposite of klopps mould. He could pay the 10 role with his vision etc but his lack of off the ball skills would not suit us either. He is a player who can become great at his game but can't change his style. The likes of riquelme juninho. All great talents but would never fit in a klopp team.


10.) 10 Jun 2019 15:07:21
I agree with Ed001. Sell him, good player but not at the level required for a team with desires on the PL trophy.


11.) 10 Jun 2019 15:50:01
It's already clear klopp doesn't want him, never considered for us even when banging 25 or 30 goals with the under 23s, 2 loan spells with success, klopp has never shown any signs of integration so his mind is well made up for sure. He chose Woodburn over Wilson every time in the past when the bench was bare. Never fancied him.


12.) 10 Jun 2019 15:53:46
I suppose if I were to look at it from the club's point of view, they might ask themselves will he challenge the front 3? No. Does he have the qualities we need from players for our system to play as a backup? Ed001, has suggested not. Will his stock be here in a year on the bench with us than it is now? Definitely not, so we should look to move him on. It's honestly probably in Wilson's best interests too.

{Ed001's Note - it defo is better for him imo. He is nowhere near challenging the front 3 and he is at an age where he needs to be playing.}


13.) 10 Jun 2019 17:44:28
Yeah it's a sensible move for all. Although lately we seem to make profit on players sitting on our bench. Ibe 15 mill, brad Smith 8 mil, Kevin Stewart 7 mil. Danny ward 12 mil. Solanke 20 mil, ings 20 mil, karius maybe 7 or8 mil. We could probably make another 60 or 70 this summer by clearing loan players and deadwod. Mignolet and clyne 20 combined. Kent 10 Camacho 10 Wilson 20 or more. Grujic too if decent offer made sense. I know inflation plays a role but that's a list of players who largely failed to progress and in most cases have actually taken steps back. Some of the fees are funny to reflect. Hull took Stewart for close to the same price they gave us the best LB in world. Ings and solanke wasted away with no impact and we more than doubled or money on both. Double our money on karius who flopped. Mignolet and clyne play no part and should get 10 or so each. Danny ward played nothing and 12 mil. That's a potential 30 mil between 3 failed keepers, makes allison worth every cent. Our loan players with no future for us could reclaim the rough cost of fabinho. Bournemouth have done brutal deals with us. Over 40 million they paid us. Solanke might prove value in the future. Brad smith though😂he wasn't even young. We released him then re signed him for free and sold for 8 mil. He played about 5 games for us ever I'm sure and went back to Australia soon after I think. Some cracking business especially in comparison to how we've spent so.


14.) 10 Jun 2019 23:46:24
In regards to Shaq, I don't think he has that poor a work rate in fairness to him, most of the time he is easily the shortest guy on the pitch and he's got quite a lot of bulk to move around, I think he probably runs out of steam a lot of the time. Hence why he is more effective from the bench. He also seems to have realised this with him saying he's happy to stay next season and play the bench role.


15.) 10 Jun 2019 23:54:40
Brad Smith was sold to Bournemouth and is currently on loan to a MLS team (Seattle? ) I believe.


 

 

23 May 2019 11:00:45
Rumour has it ojo will head north to join rangers, sad that he hasn’t kicked on from his early promise.

Can only hope he can follow in Kent’s footsteps and make a positive impression.

Ed’s what do you think went wrong for him?

The Southern Red

{Ed001's Note - he was just a kid with pace who has had a lot of injury problems.}


 

 

22 May 2019 18:03:32
Am I right in saying if we win the champions league and arsenal win the europa league that Tottenham don’t qualify for the champions league next year?

The Southern Red

1.) 22 May 2019 18:16:20
It's only works that way if both us and arsenal had finished outside the top four. There is an allowance of 5 clubs from one country so if we both win arsenal would just be added as the fifth club I think.


2.) 22 May 2019 18:36:44
Correct Dr.


3.) 22 May 2019 18:38:18
You're right, Dr Strange. We can have up to 5.

Spurs are playing for the trophy, same as us, as their CL participation is guaranteed regardless of the outcome of either European competition.

Given they haven't won a European trophy for 35 years, and no trophy at all for 11 years, I think the trophy itself is enough motivation for them!


4.) 22 May 2019 19:08:43
Correct, D. Strange.


5.) 23 May 2019 11:03:54
Thanks for clearing.


 

 

 

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17 Jun 2019 22:28:30
It’s also his lack of focus and determination.

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17 Jun 2019 22:27:39
I think you picked up the wrong sauce.

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17 Jun 2019 11:35:26
Brolin have a time out, does the 10 relate to your age!

The Ed’s have consistently said we will only see a major signing ala Pépé IF one of the front 3 leave.

However we are looking at options what can offer cover up top that wouldn’t be too expensive e. g cornet.

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{Ed001's Note - also Ed002 has been quite clear that he does not expect Salah to leave this summer.}


 

 

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11 Jun 2019 22:56:24
It is bull.

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11 Jun 2019 20:14:06
I believe Marega wrote the article himself.

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18 Jun 2019 14:06:55
I would be surprised if we payed any fee for our number 2, we have an amazing number 1 who will rarely not play. As well as 2 young prospects.

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17 Jun 2019 14:24:50
Rumour has it we’ve put in a €15m bid for Simao.

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16 Jun 2019 22:26:10
I am sure king Edwards has got his transfers prepped for the 2025/ 26 season.

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16 Jun 2019 20:55:07
Have a day off plain bread, he had half a season trying to get into a team pushing for promotion.

He is 19 for Christ sake!

I can see him going out on loan again to the championship, quite a few have shown interest.

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14 Jun 2019 16:04:59
Simao nailed on.

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