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27 Aug 2018 21:06:47
any updates on ojo?

The Southern Red

{Ed002's Note - He has no future at Liverpool and there is interest from Middlesbrough - expect him to leave this week.}

1.) 27 Aug 2018 23:21:59
Shame that, thought he was going to be a good player for us. Good luck to the lad.
Wasn’t he thought of as one of the best young prospects in the world at one time? Sure Ed002 once said something along those lines? I could be mistaken.

{Ed002's Note - In 2013 he was pointed out as one of a handful of players who would do well when they grew up.}

2.) 27 Aug 2018 23:54:10
I thought he looked really good when he played a bunch of league games during our Europa League run a couple of seasons ago but he doesn’t seem to have kicked on since then.

3.) 28 Aug 2018 00:53:22
Shame, you always hope academy products will succeed. He's been unlucky with injuries and at times it felt like the club not having concrete plan for him may have hindered his development. That said, he isn't where he needs to be to mount a challenge for first team football. Physically he's definitely there, but he has been from a young age. Mentally he doesn't seem sharp enough and he;s always lacked consistency when on loan (even when given regular game time), especially with regards to his end product.

Best of luck to the lad though, hope he gets a move and regular football. Who knows, might just be a late bloomer that turns into a world beater.

4.) 28 Aug 2018 08:08:33
It's a real shame, I really thought he was going to be the next big thing for us a few years ago, unfortunately it didn't work out for him. Good luck to the lad, fingers crossed he has a great career elsewhere.

5.) 27 Aug 2018 23:45:31
Wow, was it that long ago. What happened to him Eds? Don’t remember seeing any bad press about him, did he just not progress as well as expected or did the club not make the best decisions regarding his development?

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any bad press for him - but Liverpool's focus is very much on bringing players in from outside so he won't get the chances he perhaps thinks he deserves.}

6.) 28 Aug 2018 10:43:59
He's suffered quite a few injuries in the last two years. He broke a bone in his neck two seasons ago and then he dislocated his shoulder last season.
Unfortunately these seem to have stunted his progress.
It's a shame as Robertson, TAA and Gomez have shown that Klopp has trust in youth and with TAA and Gomez will promote from within if he thinks they're good enough.

{Ed002's Note - TAA yes, Roberton was not first choice for the club and Gomez is only playing as cover. The clubs plan right nopw is to buy the Premier League at all cost - and the debt has been increasing again at an alarming rate in order for them to do that.}

7.) 28 Aug 2018 11:14:00
Apparently stad reim are a possible destination on loan.

{Ed002's Note - Stade de Reims would be a very poor choice (although they are still looking for a couple of loans) due to language issues if nothing else. Whilst many of the players will speak English the club is full of African players from French speaking nations and an Argentine player who speaks fluent French. If a deal can be struck with Middlesbrough it should provide a good opportunity for him.}

8.) 28 Aug 2018 16:24:46
To be fair Nathan AKe was on that list as well. Things don't always work out.

{Ed002's Note - The list was written when the players were young and unknown. Ake is a full Dutch International and a starter in the Premier League, he has a Europa League winners medal etc.. This type of post is a demonstration of why it is pointles sharing anything interesting with the Liverpool supporters to be honest. I'll avoid it in the future.}

9.) 28 Aug 2018 19:09:40
redphil, Ake has achieved a significant amount compared to Ojo who is still waiting to have a full season at any clhb.

Whilst they were both very highly rated at a young age, clearly Ake has shown that he can perform at a high level. Compared to Ojo who hasn’t other then sporadic games in the championship.

I apologise Ed I enjoy the valued knowledge that you have imparted on us and find it very interesting and I agree with what you have said with regards to Ojo.

10.) 28 Aug 2018 19:54:59
Ed002 - I' now highly confident that you don't know your eggs when it comes to Liverpool's finances. The intention isn't to buy the league - just to compete given better commercial performance, and consecutive champions league qualifications. Last year's figures, when released later this year show a large profit, in part due to the Coutinho sale, but also, a sizeable sale of players, bookable in that financial period.

The investment for this season is higher, but it's nowhere near the heights of City and Chelsea way back when. When accounting for inflation, Liverpool are nowhere near those two clubs in terms of outlay - and the debt is manageable, and not much higher than last seasons finances.

I seem to remember Chelsea buying the league a few years back, and since they stopped spending, they haven't amounted to much. Funny that.

{Ed002's Note - You moronic posts about finances are embarrassing. Please tell me how much money will be shown in last years figures for the sale of Coutinho? Why do you keep mentioning other clubs who don't even appear in the list of the most debt ridden clubs - it is embarrassing. It think you will find Chelsea might have done OK in recent years - this sort of trash makes you look particularly stupid. Liverpool are the fifth most debt rifden club in World football from the latest figures submitted, and the growth rate is the second highest year on year.}

11.) 28 Aug 2018 20:06:17
ED02 I always enjoy your input and look through the posts for nuggets like these.

If you do not engage the LFC supporters then their only form of education is the usual media and socual media.
I think a lot of visters/ posters to this site are still in transition and crossing over from the junk in mainstream media, hence their lack of knowledge and their narrow viewpoints.

Remember that there are many of us who value your work, along with the other ED's too.
It is just abt a little perseverance with us at times!

I have not bothered to read any sports back pages since discovering this site, which is a testomant to you and all the EDs


{Ed002's Note - You are very sweet.}

12.) 28 Aug 2018 20:48:20

{Ed002's Note - We are not going to post your rubbish - you don’t seem keen on what Liverpool will be declaring in the accounts for Coutinho - and seemingly have zero grasp of the situation at the club at all.}

13.) 28 Aug 2018 23:07:34
I agree with RedKurd, Ed02's insights are always helpful and illuminating. His comments about Liverpool's debt prompted me to do some research and I found those figures in UEFA's Club Licensing Benchmark Report 2016 (latest) . Slide 122!
The debt figures are concerning (although multiple of revenue isn't too bad) and I would agree that Liverpool are spending big to win silverware. not the first club to have tried this. Satisfying to see Utd still on top!
Ed02, I wonder whether Liverpool's growth rate that year was particularly high due to the Main Stand/ shop development and the low-interest loan from FSG (1.24% according to the Telegraph)? I'm not sure if it was that financial year?
With increased matchday revenues from the redevelopment, recent new sponsorship deals and the revenue boost from reaching the Champions League final (hopefully not a one-off), do you think the debt position will improve or is this an ongoing high-leverage strategy? Within FFP rules, of course.

{Ed002's Note - The increased match day income is minimal. The increased PL money is not. The money spent in cash this year and in 2017 is very significant (including £79M in payments for players purchased but not paid for in previous years. All but £5M of the money spent on VVD and the agent fees was in cash. We are going to give up again on the money as it is clear people simply don’t get it.}

14.) 28 Aug 2018 23:17:25
@Vagus : “Ed002 - I' now highly confident that you don't know your eggs when it comes to Liverpool's finances. ”

Hmmm, you may want to have a rethink on that.

I’m pretty certain ed002 knows more than you do about our finances. 👍.

15.) 29 Aug 2018 00:32:34
Ed02, please don’t let the stupid internet trolls ruin things for everyone. It is clear that some of the people who visit this site only do so to get a rise out of fans and make everyone look bad. I think I speak for most here when I say that your posts provide excellent insight into the club. Thanks for all you do.

{Ed002's Note - It means that we have to be careful what is shared and which questions are answered.}

16.) 29 Aug 2018 05:30:57
It's ok for the club to carry some debt so long as yearly revenue exceeds debt service and expenditures by a considerable margin. The club's name still has value and the owners can sell it with the attached debt if they so choose. What's more troubling is that the club seems to be had in the market again and again. Why are we paying the majority of transfer fees in single installments upfront and selling players for fees paid in installments?

{Ed001's Note - not sure how that is being had? It means there is regular income from the instalments, while the outgoings are pretty much accounted for immediately. Payment terms make little real difference in that respect, there are pros and cons to either way of doing it.}

17.) 29 Aug 2018 07:03:14
Ojo isn’t good enough. I have said that on here time and time again, I have never seen the hype with him. Hopefully for his sake he can move on to a level more suited to his game currently and build himself up and prove me wrong but for me we are 100% correct in getting rid.

18.) 29 Aug 2018 09:18:49
Ahhh it's that time of year again when a new poster of limited experience tries to 'teach' ED002 about finances. I always enjoy the Ed's responses to these - thanks for the info Ed;s, as always it is appreciated.

19.) 29 Aug 2018 10:09:26
I don’t think Ojo was given enough first team opportunities.

The few chances he got he didn’t look out of place IMO.

20.) 29 Aug 2018 12:19:11
Ojo was injured several times both with us and on loan and by the time he came back, he'd just been firmly overtaken by others so that even if Klopp at some point decides to give our youth products some chances, it won't be him (particularly Wilson and Woodburn) . It's sad but it's life and he's making the right decision at 21, where he needs to be starting to get regular full games to progress. Hopefully he stays injury free and salvages a bright and positive career.

21.) 29 Aug 2018 19:12:32
Re% the debt, its it look y to be something that is sustainable with current TV revenues or will it likely end up outstripping even that?

{Ed002's Note - It needs to be dealt with.}



19 Aug 2018 11:58:41
Any update on what's going to happen with Origi?

The Southern Red

1.) 19 Aug 2018 13:40:57
With Ings gone, with rumours of Solanke being looked at for a loan up North, and with Sturridge's uncertain fitness/ injuries long term outlook, it seems to me that Origi will be kept for the season. Or maybe he'll go out on loan and Solanke will be kept. I will add that I feel a loan would do Solanke more good than it would do Origi. He's had a few and not really gotten anywhere.

2.) 19 Aug 2018 15:56:42
Dortmund apparently interested.



02 Aug 2018 18:57:26
Any update on why Gruijc hasn’t left on loan yet? Is it the possibility of a permanent move to Lazio?

The Southern Red

1.) 02 Aug 2018 22:25:54
Lazio would be a good move. However game time in domestic cup games could give equivilant expierence if we go on good cup runs. Will give Klopp a good gage on where he is at in comparison to only getting 10/ 15 games from bench at Lazio.

2.) 02 Aug 2018 22:27:05
Yeah it'd be interesting to know what's going on with him and a few others we expect to be leaving, going to be a busy week for players leaving I think.

3.) 02 Aug 2018 22:40:33
They want him to replace milinkivic and he hasn't left yet so don't need him.

4.) 02 Aug 2018 23:01:11
Think Klopp likes idea of loaning to British club. I’d says cardiff return best bet for him and think it will do him and ya the world of good.

5.) 02 Aug 2018 23:36:42
Players can leave for European clubs right up until the end of August, nothing needs to be sorted in the next week unless it’s to another English club.

6.) 03 Aug 2018 08:10:31
True Kramer, I keep forgetting about that mate.



29 Jul 2018 15:41:29
Chirivella off to Rosenberg, good luck to him!

apparently there is a buy back clause included.

The Southern Red



25 Jul 2018 21:34:40
i noticed Hyypia was in some of the photo's in the US, is he back at the club in some capacity?

The Southern Red

1.) 26 Jul 2018 06:48:24
They take a few Legends to ease the press commitments for the playing staff. God is there, and one more who I'm struggling to remember.

2.) 26 Jul 2018 06:56:31
Riise and Rush are out there too I believe.

{Ed025's Note - freeloading has-beens bleeding the club dry..

3.) 26 Jul 2018 07:26:37
Ed25, fantastic mate, great to laugh at this early hour, top man.

{Ed025's Note - i leave being miserable to stevie gerrard mac.. :)

4.) 26 Jul 2018 07:39:35
Price you Ed025 pay for having world class players, does Binman still turn out for the Blues?

{Ed025's Note - now your talking world class KC, big nev is still around the club mate.. usually near the canteen.. :)

5.) 26 Jul 2018 08:15:28
Eating his way through the clubs coffers - love it, thanks Ed025 you have made my day.

6.) 26 Jul 2018 08:32:07
Love the humour, Ed. Takes a lot to put a smile on my face, cus I'm a miserable sod! Have a good day, mate. All the best.

{Ed025's Note - you too mate..

7.) 26 Jul 2018 10:00:28
Pass on all our regards to Neville Southall Ed025, his anti-austerity tweets were bang-on.
Tell him to keep the red flag flying, so to speak, haha.

{Ed025's Note - i will do juicer, but it will probably be by a chippy in llandudno mate..

8.) 26 Jul 2018 12:07:40
I was a kid in the Liverpool v Everton FA cup final in 1986. My dad took me to the team hotel where Everton were staying before the final. I met most of the players including Tony Cottee and big nev.

Big Nev let me (aged 7) take penalties against him in the car park - a couple of hours before they left for the match. Ill never forget it, good lad!

Met him again when I was aged 35 at a charity football tournament where he was playing for a vets team and I had a team out. I asked him if I could take a pen then, but he wouldn't have a bar of it!




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04 Dec 2018 12:51:59
Quite a few rival games recently got me thinking of various rankings. What are everyone’s thoughts?

2nd Favourite team?
Worst team?

Most liked top6
Least liked top6

Best fans
Worst fans

Best club for community work
Worst at community work

Best food options
Worst food options.

The Southern Red

1.) 04 Dec 2018 13:15:34
Can't answer all right now as I'm rushing but the best for community work surely has to be Everton. What they do for the community is something special, other clubs need to take note and follow suit.

2.) 04 Dec 2018 13:42:50
Man Utd

Man Utd


Leicester City
I think they are all good at varying levels and nobody deserves to be singled out as bad at community work.

Stadium MK.

3.) 04 Dec 2018 13:42:52
After Sunday, my 2nd favourite and worst team is both Everton 😂.

4.) 04 Dec 2018 17:09:54
Wolves for me as second team. They’re excitingly unpredictable but on a good day they can be up with the best. Perhaps they’re missing one key player. Steve Bull. if anyone else remembers those glory days?
Fans wise, we have such a huge presence on the pitch so I’d have to say LFC. Although a big shout out to Dortmund when we played them in the Europa League. incredible atmosphere!
Most hated team. strong words. based solely on the last game, PSG royally ruffled my feathers with how many players acted like tarts! I’ve never seen a more frustrating game as a fan. god knows how our players managed to control themselves André credit to them for doing so.

5.) 04 Dec 2018 22:06:58
I do indeed remember Steve Bull unclebens, he was there's a bloody long time wasn't he, about 15 years or something like that?

{Ed025's Note - it would have been longer salah only his wife insisted he retire, i believe she was a bit of a cow.. :)

6.) 05 Dec 2018 05:36:16
2nd Favourite team? Brazil 1982
Worst team? Whoever is managed by Neil Warnock
Most liked top6 : Arsenal
Least liked top6 : Can I have ManU even though they’re 8th 😄

Best fans: Japan
Worst fans: Ingurland

Best club for community work: Everton
Worst at community work : Blackpool

Best food options : Forest Green Rovers
Worst food options. : Hull City.



27 Nov 2018 21:01:01
Herbie Kane has got another one!

The Southern Red

1.) 27 Nov 2018 21:21:32
He’s gone bananas.

{Ed025's Note - love it ron..

2.) 28 Nov 2018 17:22:09
With a reference like that I'm guessing, Ron, that you and I are the same age.

3.) 28 Nov 2018 18:34:11
Have Ron and stoneage starter a fine bromance? Something tells me they've caught the love bug ;-)



10 Oct 2018 09:20:42
What’s everyone’s thoughts on Ronald Koemans comments saying VVD cann seem a bit too laid back.

I know he was a bit last season but I do think it’s harsh of him to say that as he has got much better this season.

The Southern Red

1.) 10 Oct 2018 09:36:07
As much as I would like to dismiss koemans comment as he has failed at most clubs he's been manager of, Ed 1 did hint earlier this year that VVD can be a bit laid back and rely on his speed to get him out of trouble at times so he foes have it in his game. In fairness I can see the point being made but his mistakes are few and far between and I believe he is more focused these days and it was refreshing at the weekend to hear a player admit it was a definite penalty and a stupid mistake on his part. You can only learn from your mistakes if you first admit to them.

2.) 10 Oct 2018 09:48:38
He must be watching a different player to me if he's saying stuff like that mate.

3.) 10 Oct 2018 10:26:32
VVD is the best defender in the league and there is no second opinion. Koeman was managing dross at Everton and he is not even a half decent manager to judge VVD in the first place!

4.) 10 Oct 2018 10:28:41
There were certain moments like that last season though as the season went on, he improved. I think he’s become a special player with a good attitude. I also think he might get better.

5.) 10 Oct 2018 10:30:59
It's funny that Koeman is saying that, because if I remember correctly, he was exactly the same as a player. Not necessarily as laid back as VVD, but always appeared to be slow and methodical in movement. I agree VVD's speed (those long strides) does bail him out often, but then it's part of his skill set. Live with it.

{Ed001's Note - why live with it? The start of this season has shown how much better he is when he is not laid back and against Napoli he showed how poor he is when he is laid back. He needs to be told and to keep him playing like he started the season, rather than like he did against Napoli.}

6.) 10 Oct 2018 10:31:58
He can definitely be too laid back and switch off sometimes, but with his physical and technical abilities, he usually manages to get out of any troubles he has caused himself. However, I do feel that he has improved on this aspect this season and has firmly established himself as one of the best defenders in the league, if not the world.

7.) 10 Oct 2018 11:07:13
I think a number of clubs scouted him at Celtic and Arsenal reportedly chose not to sign him because of his "calm" manner.
If I could compare him to a boxer, I would say Roy Jones Jr. The physical abilities are there to cover his mistakes, but what happens when he there is a degradation of those abilities?

8.) 10 Oct 2018 11:33:12
Rio Ferdinand was like that but still an excellent defender.

9.) 10 Oct 2018 12:16:02
You know what they say about people in glass houses young Ronald 🤨.

10.) 10 Oct 2018 14:05:19
I heard people in glass houses sink ships.

11.) 10 Oct 2018 19:42:05
Why is everyone having a go at Koeman, exactly? Ed, myself and many others have been echoing the same thing for a year now about how too laid back VVD is. I don't care if the source of the comments are from Koeman or even Moyes cos it's not about who made them. The issue here is that are the comments credible and as much as people want to play the "What does he know? He managed poor defenders like Keane, Jags, and Ashley Williams"", what he said is correct.

Many of us said even before he signed that he has near NO weaknesses in his game BUT that he is a stroller on the pitch, too laid back and switches off fair few times. Koeman being a por manager does not remove from that truth even tho VVD is improving on these fronts. After all, two things can be correct at the same time.

12.) 10 Oct 2018 20:14:19
You must be the only one complaining about VVD. Put him in the market you ll see a host of clubs including Barca, City, UTD and everyone in Europe after him for “ Name your price “. He is a leader, A captain and arguably the best ball playing defender in mainland Europe!
When he has a bad game, the entire team has a bad game. Look at the improvement on Gomez!

13.) 10 Oct 2018 20:42:41
BRover - You May agree with Koeman but that does not make him factually correct, I think Kidman is wrong and his comments smack of rank hypocrisy as he was one of the most unfocused defenders of his generation.

He got away with being a poor defender (ask Graham Taylor RIP) by being devastating at free kicks (ask GT)

14.) 10 Oct 2018 22:34:08
Ron, here is where you are wrong. First off, this is not about facts. It's about opinions. Now, Koeman never compared himself to VVD except if I missed that. You and many others did, which has NOTHING to do with the debate. There is nothing hypocritical about what he said. He gave an opinion that many of us here (myself, MK Scouser and Ed01) STILL share and this, WAY before he signed here so cos Koeman said it means NOTHING and does not mean he is wrong.

You can say a player was poor AND still say he gave a good assessment of another player currently playing in the position said player played in. It's called "nuance". This is not about Koeman or his playing career. This is about an inherent flaw in VVD's game that is salient and has been before he even signed here.

15.) 10 Oct 2018 22:39:53
Harry, none of what you say is true. Before VVD signed for us, myself, MK Scouser, Ed01 and many others, raised the very issue) (s) that Koeman raised about VVD's game WAY before we signed him so you are patently false in saying I am the only one who has this opinion. Hence, all the other stuff you posted has NOTHING to do with VVD's inherent flaws, as if spending 75m on a player makes his flaws automatically go away. "When he has a bad game, everyone has a bad game". Again, patently false. VVD was crap vs Leicester this season (Gomez outplayed him and bailed him out a couple of times) and we still won so clearly again, a tonne of hot air in your posts. You prolly want to watch the games with your eyes and mind open and alert before making such blanket and baseless statements.

16.) 11 Oct 2018 06:46:37
I seem to remember certain posters also had scathing opinions of Robertson and Shaquiri before they played for us too. Your opinions are no more valid than mine or Harry’s.

Koeman is a hypocrit, he was very poor at concentrating. I don’t care how good/ poor a manager he is, his comments are hypocritical.

17.) 11 Oct 2018 10:03:51
If he is a poor player then we should sell him.

18.) 11 Oct 2018 11:02:56
I think Koeman needs to chill out. But I also think that peno should wake Virgil up a bit going forward.

19.) 11 Oct 2018 19:45:54
Ron, you seem to be deflecting for no reason. You seem to want to attack Koeman personally and football-wise instead of listening to what he actually said, which many of us said he has even before he signed for us. In terms of a career, VVD will do well to have the type of career Koeman had with the trophies to boot (poor player or not) so there's that. Also, I see that you conveniently bypassed that point and failed to address it. No prob, I would deflect too if I could not address the main point of a debate.

20.) 11 Oct 2018 19:46:42
Harry, do you even read? Who said VVD is poor and should be sold? Nobody said so. So us pointing out his flaws means he is a poor player and needs to be sold? Again, do you even read what people post? VVD has his flaws and needs to improve in certain areas or do you think he is perfect?



09 Oct 2018 09:27:41
Sad times Jimmy’s injured!

I feel like this is the moment we bring in Fabinho next too games, hopefully shouldn’t be too difficult and get him valuable minutes.

Same goes for Keita, clearly not quite clicking for him he needs to have a game or two with a bit more space then usual to get his rhythm.

I hope Shaqiri is given a chance as an ACM role as it has shown we need someone in that role exploiting the space between defence and midfield.

The Southern Red

1.) 09 Oct 2018 11:38:05
Milly is a fit lad. but a month (at least, according to reports) on sidelines from a hammie might help Fab and Nobby to gain valuable first team experience as you say.

2.) 09 Oct 2018 13:25:57
Or the mentor steps down and the pupil (trent) steps up. Shaq is not defence minded enough to play in a midfield three.

3.) 09 Oct 2018 13:38:04
Mane man, I had no assumption he is a defensive player I think for lower level teams having a fluid 3 which works on a 2 man base and one pushing forward helps to break teams down.

4.) 09 Oct 2018 14:02:21
Fair enough SR. I like shaq, since he has joined he has played well when called upon. And scored a winning over head kick against. Wait for it. Utd! I was shocked when klopp subbed him in the shampton game, but I understand why he did it. Shaq had helped us into a dominating position and klopp wanted to make sure it stayed that way.

I think shaq has more chance breaking into that front 3 atm.

5.) 09 Oct 2018 14:02:21
Fair enough SR. I like shaq, since he has joined he has played well when called upon. And scored a winning over head kick against. Wait for it. Utd! I was shocked when klopp subbed him in the shampton game, but I understand why he did it. Shaq had helped us into a dominating position and klopp wanted to make sure it stayed that way.

I think shaq has more chance breaking into that front 3 atm.

6.) 09 Oct 2018 15:04:48
I'm expecting fabhino to become massive. I really think he is going to take this league by storm. I don't know why. I notice something in him, a strength of character that I think will come through to his play. After the next window he won't be considered the new lad anymore and I think him and Keita will kick on from that.

7.) 09 Oct 2018 15:38:01
That is a good wish, I expect Kieta - hendo and Wiji to play the midfield. Shaq still on the bench.

8.) 09 Oct 2018 15:44:09
What if we had signed Fekir instead? He too is a playmaker and the argument “ He doesn’t work hard to play in the midfield “ would still stand?
At home you don’t need 3 Workman midfield! Nobody is coming to us that we need a 3 men walk in the middle.

We need more goals!
City decided to sit back and contain us and what did the 3 men hard working midfielders did in return? Nothing really!

9.) 09 Oct 2018 16:35:12
I would argue their midfield 3 did nothing also though Harry. The 2 Silvas were largely anonymous and Fernandinho should’ve had about 4 yellow cards.

10.) 09 Oct 2018 16:35:12
I would argue their midfield 3 did nothing also though Harry. The 2 Silvas were largely anonymous and Fernandinho should’ve had about 4 yellow cards.

11.) 09 Oct 2018 17:04:38
If salah had passed wjinaldum would have scored.

12.) 09 Oct 2018 17:44:51
Also Harry if we’d signed Fekir we’d now have a very expensive injured player.

13.) 09 Oct 2018 18:28:37
20 points 8 games we are flying especially after that run of games.

14.) 09 Oct 2018 18:32:37
Fekir is a very hardworking player out of possession so I don't think he would have had a problem with that. He also has dodgy knees BUT feel free to moan cos Klopp did not do what you wanted. Shaq has a tendency for being lazy out of possession (that was his main issue at Stoke) and the system we play requires ALL midfielders to do the job, with or w/ o the ball. Shaq is not ready to play the 10 the way Cou and Ox played it as in, with skill, guile, and superb work ethic esp. out of possession.

Until Shaq can do that and earn Klopp's trust in that way, he will continue to start on the bench. The Saint s game is your example if you are actually being honest. So if people have issues with Shaq not starting, they should direct their grief to Shaq, and not Klopp. It is up to him to earn Klopp's trust, the same way Ox did.

15.) 09 Oct 2018 21:28:34
The way i see it we have clamoured for a bigger squad with greater depth and quality, so while i’m gutted for Milner, i’m not phased about it one bit and i’m actually looking forward to seeing what the 3 midfielders we spent about £100 million on in the summer can do.

16.) 09 Oct 2018 22:22:24
Spot on, AW. next man up and based on the squad we have and competition for places, Fab, Lallana and Naby should be chumping at the bit to get in the starting eleven now.

17.) 09 Oct 2018 22:40:04
If and but Bobby? City came for a point and they got it. They are still top of the league and they knew a point is better than no point and 3 points to Liverpool. Now we might need all 3 points at Ethihad by the time we play them there.
No problem if you are ok with that 3 men workhorse midfield. A few have concerns including me! Let it be like that. It’s called perception and opinions!
Klopp chased Fekir all summer and was only inches away from signing him ( Money ) . So I guess he too is aware of the issues in midfield.
If not today we will buy one and then we can see the difference.

18.) 09 Oct 2018 22:43:13
So Shaqiri doesn’t work hard to get into the midfield but does just enough to get into the front three? Wow! Now that’s what you call “Pure rubbish”.

The front three works more than anyone in our system. The press starts from the front which is why Sturridge never gets a nod!
So you are ok having a lazy player playing upfront and not in midfield.

Which trust are people talking here? He played brilliant against Southamton and suddenly the trust vanished!
Man some people make this site even more interesting!

And boy AOC never played a number 10. He is a direct player similar to kieta but less in terms of vision and close control. Purest form of number 10 is Mezut ozil!

19.) 10 Oct 2018 06:15:06
The whole team works hard Harry, but none more than the midfield, or the "engine" of the team.

20.) 10 Oct 2018 10:21:44
Some players have more defensive discipline than others, the front 3 do not have to have the same defensive discipline as the midfield 3, I don’t understand how this is a difficult to understand.

21.) 10 Oct 2018 10:50:04
It is difficult to understand coz we bought a player paying money to do a job and knew his capabilities, strength and weakness in well adavance.

There is no defensive discipline. We are counter pressing team and attack the opposition players when we lose the ball to turnover the possession resulting in our own attack with full pace either in our own half or high up.

Shaqiri could press and that is all you need from a CAM. He is no Makalele. He is a skilled player like your Fekir, Salah or Mane.

The team plays with 2 or more holding players resulting in very less chance created and goals scored. You could afford to drop one defensive minded midfielder for Shaqiri keeping both Wijnaldum / Henderson in the team.

I am pretty sure you will lose this argument if klopp pays him in the midfield against Huddersfield!

Shaqiri was never signed to start in the front three, if he doesn’t fit anywhere else then it’s a poor signing imo!

22.) 10 Oct 2018 15:28:39
Playing in midfield against Huddersfield is different to playing in midfield against Manchester City.



08 Oct 2018 22:02:21
DO you think we will adam Lewis slowly get phased in as Moreno leaves?

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1.) 09 Oct 2018 15:36:05
I would play him in the cup games. He is better than Moreno and Milner at LB.

2.) 09 Oct 2018 21:05:32
Lewis still has a lot to learn about the defensive side in particular but he does look good with the ball. He is coming on nicely.




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18 Dec 2018 09:39:01
I really hope he does, it almost irks me a bit to go out and spend money on a backup left back.

I know it’s all part of having a strong squad but it was can bring through quality squad players from the academy then that frees up valuable funds!

As the Ed’s continuously say we are pumping extraudinary levels to win the league, being able to free up wages to bring through youth will go a small way to helping that.

Plus the more youth coming through and getting opportunities the more likely young players see our club as a destination of prosperity.

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09 Oct 2018 19:26:20
I do find out of window transfer rumours, best one so far on sky giving an explanation to City’s supposed buy back clause “That means if City match any fee offered for Sancho, they will get first refusal” no you melons if a team bid and city match it then the player chooses which ever contract/ club he prefers!

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02 Oct 2018 16:52:58
Apologies if I should be taking this rumour with a pinch of salt, but with Rabiot’s contract expiring next season I have read we are looking at him?

Is this true or is it putting 1+1 = a tree.

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31 Aug 2018 07:24:25
A real pitta indeed.

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28 Aug 2018 19:09:40
redphil, Ake has achieved a significant amount compared to Ojo who is still waiting to have a full season at any clhb.

Whilst they were both very highly rated at a young age, clearly Ake has shown that he can perform at a high level. Compared to Ojo who hasn’t other then sporadic games in the championship.

I apologise Ed I enjoy the valued knowledge that you have imparted on us and find it very interesting and I agree with what you have said with regards to Ojo.

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07 Dec 2018 15:47:18
Poor Danny if only he’d been allowed to stay at Huddersfield for the season when they got promoted his career could be in a completely different place!

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03 Dec 2018 15:32:55
Ed you never cease to impress! Bravo!

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22 Nov 2018 20:07:34
we already have Adam lewis making waves in the youth teams!

If Moreno goes we should promote him up as backup, we know if it gets desperate that Gomez can play there.

there is no point buying a player to play second fiddle.

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11 Oct 2018 19:02:42
Whilst all still ultimately considered kids there is a view that they could turn into good players Jones, tagseth, larouci in that order.

Jones has shown he has a lot of potential, I wouldn’t be surprised if we see him play a few times this season. Good dribbler with an eye for a pass he isn’t afraid to get stuck in. One of Gerard’s personal favourites, he has been improving and shown in preseason some flavour of what he can do.

Tagseth small yet mighty he was very much praised by Gerrard as well showed his quality at the U18 level good in the tackle and has shown decent positional awareness to break down attacks and recycle possession confidently.

Lastly larouci, very highly rated in France from the famous la havre youth school, took a while to settle due to various reasons very quick and skillful winger, been moved to Left back and since Adam Lewis has taken the step up hopefully we will see more opportunity.

Few others to mention: Bobby Duncan, Rys Williams and Rafa Camacho.

I think FINALLY since the days Rafa overhauled our youth system we are seeing the players and coaching needed to help push success in the system.

Ultimately we want to see more Trent’s coming through the system and with the teams increasing quality hopefully we will see some of these guys match that.

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09 Oct 2018 13:50:51
YOU leave my Naby Alone!

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