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25 May 2017 19:48:24
Are these rumours of Rodgers wanting Wilson north of the wall?

i don't think that would be a bad move for him if he was going to get some game time up there!

The Southern Red

{Ed002's Note - Celtic asked about a loan and were told no. They could potentially come back and ask for a sale. Right now the youngsters do seem to be out of the equation at Liverpool even though they are well thought of.}


1.) 26 May 2017 00:34:56
Surprised we turned down a loan - a year at Celtic would seem to be perfect step in his development.

{Ed007's Note - Could he handle the step up though? It's a big jump from Liverpool to a team expected to win every game and pick up trophies ;) (giggle)


2.) 26 May 2017 09:05:09
I didn't know liverpool and brendan rodgers were going to take part in Game of thrones, if that is going to be the case, GO WHITEWALKERS!


3.) 26 May 2017 10:27:05
Class answer Ed7 😂😂😂.

{Ed007's Note - I couldn't resist but thanks must go to Zimbo who set it up perfectly lol


4.) 26 May 2017 21:02:56
Lovely!


 

 

23 May 2017 22:47:53
Hi Ed's

I know there is a lot of talk of in's now we are all weak at the knees with the possibilty of offering champions league to our targets!

but i would be really interested in hearing a summary of our loaned players this year:

Danny Ward (Huddersfield Town)
Ryan Fulton (Chesterfield)
Ryan Kent (Barnsley)
Allan Rodrigues (Hertha Berlin)
Jon Flanagan (Burnley)
Lloyd Jones (Swindon Town)
Taiwo Awoniyi (NEC Nijmegen)
Andre Wisdom (Red Bull Salzburg)
Lazar Markovic (Hull City)
Pedro Chirivella (Go Ahead Eagles)
Cameron Brannagan (Fleetwood Town)
Jack Dunn (Tranmere Rovers)
Mamadou Sakho (Crystal Palace)
Brooks Lennon (Real Salt Lake)

Not detail (unless you want to haha) of how they did and whether they have a future at the club and what they should do for their own futures.

I know i ask a lot but you are just so good at giving such well rounded views on players I can't not ask.

p. s i flirt with you slightly in the hope this may appease any possible rejection of this request!

The Southern Red

{Ed001's Note - Ward is probably going to go back out on loan for the season. He did well at Huddersfield and could well go back there for next season, if they get promotion. They would like to make the deal permanent either way, but are not keen on any kind of buy back clause in the contract.
Fulton I am not sure how he got on to be honest but the plan is for another loan.
Kent is an interesting one, looks likely to leave in the summer, he has not done enough to earn a place at Liverpool, though he does show flashes of quality.
Allan has issues getting a work permit. He is very well liked by Klopp, but we can't use him so his future is up in the air. Most likely another loan spell.
Flanagan is likely to be sold.
Jones is another likely to be sold. He has not progressed well.
Awoniyi is in the balance. The right loan offer will see him go back out on loan, but the club like the idea of giving him some time around the first team in training, so he might well stay.
Wisdom is up for sale.
Markovic is available for sale.
Chirivella is likely to go back on loan for the season.
Branagan is available for transfer.
Dunn is also for sale.
Sakho is for sale still.
Lennon I don't know about, I will have to ask. I had completely forgotten about the lad with him being outside of Europe.}


1.) 24 May 2017 06:38:39
Anyone seen much of Allan to say how good he looks? Is he really that impressive?


2.) 24 May 2017 08:31:45
Thanks!

interesting point on Owoniyi, guess he is something we don't really have upfront so would be good to see how it plays in and around the team.

I would like to see kent at least given a chance in the pre-season see how he does as he is only 20 and so has lots of time on his hands!

I feel chirivella will have come on leaps and bonds playing for a the eagles, i would like to see him loaned to another eredevise club again (preferable somewhere higher up the table)

Allan, i am hoping another season at hertha, he will become more of a regular in the team, so even if he doesn't get the chance to play for us he will develop nicely!


3.) 24 May 2017 10:12:28
Such a shame about flanagan. Once dubbed "the successor" by Cafu. Is there definatly no way back for the lad? We crying out for full backs at the mo, will he get another chance or was the injury the end for him at liverpool?

{Ed001's Note - if he had performed well on loan then he would have got another chance.}


4.) 24 May 2017 10:17:39
Yes spose your right ed001, if he can't get in the burnley team not much chance of getting in our side.


5.) 24 May 2017 17:41:33
Awoniyi is one of the players who doesn't have a work permit and doesn't qualify for one at the moment I think. His loan spell in Netherlands has seen him make no progress either.


6.) 25 May 2017 16:00:31
re Flannagan

Part of the issue with him was fitness and it looked like he survived a year of training without significant injury because he seemed to be on the bench every match. But virtually no game time, so we don't know whether he is able now to game after game after game; he wasn't before he left on loan though.

On quality, yes he wasn't able to replace the incumbent right-back but, if that guy was playing well and keeping his fitness, that is a hard thing for a loanee to do.

I hope Klopp takes a long hard look at him before selling before before his injury I always thought he did well going forward.


7.) 25 May 2017 20:00:18
Can't we "do a Grujic" and get Awoniyi a work permit?

{Ed025's Note - its wierd ron, they let terrorists in and jihadi,s who have been fighting our armed forces in syria, yet they wont let a lad coming to work here past the gate, this bloody country is getting worse..


8.) 25 May 2017 22:23:15
😄 I wasn't expecting that.


 

 

09 Mar 2017 15:06:06
Hi ed's

Quick question regarding LB position I know we have looked at both sessegnon from Fulham and Tymon from hull, have either of these got any sustenance behind them and which do you think would be a better option for us?

Apologies if it is too subjective!

The Southern Red

{Ed001's Note - sustenance? Erm, not sure what you mean by that. We have had both scouted and have interest in them, but so do a lot of others. Tymon is more likely, as he has less interest in him. I have not seen enough of either to even have an opinion on which would be the better option for us sorry.}


1.) 09 Mar 2017 21:15:52
It will be hard to find a LB, from an academy director it is the issue that all clubs are having. All the academies are scouring each other to look for a LB that has a good left foot, but can also get forward. We are not the only one having LB issue.


2.) 09 Mar 2017 22:18:42
Milner is doing a grand job if you ask me. So he's not left footed. so what! Better than Clyne!


3.) 10 Mar 2017 00:22:56
Apologies when I say sustanance I meant is there anything behind these rumours!

Yes I feel the same with the exposure that sessegnon is getting I think someone else will snap him up, although personally I think he should stay and play around first team at Fulham for a while!

Another question, it suprises me in this respect that we don't see young professionals staying at their local club because I think if your there working welll and playing plus family friends there it is one of the most important things at a young age!


4.) 10 Mar 2017 06:38:32
@The natural - better than Clyne is no barometer of quality. Both full-back positions need a change in personnel - for me TAA at right back and we sign a left back. God knows who but we sign one this summer.


5.) 10 Mar 2017 06:48:55
I have a question on Sessegnon rumours. 12 months ago from what I think I saw on here Liverpool looked at Chillwell. This came with a personal recommendation from close friend of Klopp with experience managing the lad at Huddersfield, BC was 2 years older and slightly more experienced and the money men wouldn't pay the asking price. Considering the interet Fulham are likely to want a few million as well so has anything changed to suggest the purse holders would release that much for this lad?

{Ed001's Note - depends a lot on whether Moreno leaves or not. He is available for transfer, if he goes it makes the requirement for a left back urgent again, especially with Juanma struggling with a few injuries.}


6.) 09 Mar 2017 23:33:45
I would rather sign Robertson myself. Think his attacking nature and excellent delivery would benefit us massively down the left.


7.) 10 Mar 2017 15:36:30
There's also that kid from Leeds Charlie Taylor, I think, who is highly-rated as well.


8.) 10 Mar 2017 20:26:00
Quite like Charlie Daniels at Bournemouth not a long term solution tho.


 

 

24 Aug 2016 12:21:06
Hi Ed's,

Thanks for all the up to date knowledge!

Just wondering if there is any activity within the youth set up of any in's outs loans permanent deals.

The Southern Red

{Ed001's Note - I am sure there will be a little bit, but it is not something that easy to find out about. It is usually much quicker to do a deal like that, so they don't really give anyone time to get an advance warning. You don't have to iron out contracts as well as sort out a deal between the clubs, as the players remain on the same contract as they already were on.}


 

 

27 Jul 2016 12:04:50
Any news on Luis Albertos move to Sevilla?

Thanks!

The Southern Red

1.) 27 Jul 2016 13:39:42
Apparently not :)


 

 

 

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25 May 2017 11:35:54
with Manninger announcing his retirement this summer, i assume we are going to go for a similar kind of player as our 3rd choice rather than ward.

In the ed's opinion what should a 3rd goalkeepers qualities be, as usually it is a rarity that they will play so is it more their experience to bring to the squad than anything else?

to everyone, whoever comes in remember, we are liverpool, we support the team and the players through thick and thin.

Onwards and upwards, we march on!

The Southern Red

{Ed002's Note - The third pick goalkeeper eith needs to be a youngster who plays regularly for the U23s or it needs to be someone like Manninger, Eduardo or Given etc. - someone who is experienced and useful enough to help the kids but not expected to play a regular part.}


1.) 25 May 2017 15:18:13
Given how unlikely it is the position will be required I would be fine to use Grabara as backup - he looks a very good keeper even if only 18 / 19 year old next season.


2.) 25 May 2017 17:39:13
I think there is a massive advantage to having an older keeper. They can serve almost as a dressing room father figure, but you ask Kane how important to his early development Brad Freidel was. Staying behind after training with him for hours to help him work on his shooting.

There is more to a squad than just having young talented players. Experience cannot be taught.


3.) 25 May 2017 19:02:21
Older keepers are good for making the brews and running and collecting the ball when it goes over the bar.


 

 

21 May 2017 10:59:06
Hi ed's

I have had an ilk over young players for years now. obviously i don't have experience in it but in my whole life i have never understood players ala Sessegnon, he is 16 he is in the first team for a champion ship club who will be competing for promotion again next year.

surely it makes complete sense to stay there till another year or 2 and progress there, he has come from their academy so all his friends are there as well as getting the great exposure.

I feel a lot of kids these days see the $$ signs from the big clubs when they get offered to come into the academy and then just get lost in the system.

can you think of any really good examples where a player has stuck by his lower league team and it has gone really well!

The Southern Red

{Ed002's Note - All of the "good enough" is "old enough" quotes are nonsense as the fans don't understand the difference between being professional and not - they don't understand the rules surrounding children and they certainly don't understand the responsibilities the club has. Under 18 they have to attend school and they are limited by hours how much they can train each week. And there are a bunch of other rules that need to be adhered to as well. Signing on a schoolboy who can only train part time to play as a first team player in the premier league is stupidity itself. You are right that doing anything else could be detrimental to his career.

There are plenty of examples of youngsters who have made high profile moves only to disappear fairly quickly - John Bostock and Jonathan Blondel are good examples. Then there are those like Sonny Pike who were over-hyped and put under pressure.

There are a number of the Senrab boys who stuck at it with their first pro club - Ray Wilkings is an example - and there were a lot of Mainland players who worked through the system - Patrick Kluivert and many others at Ajax.}


 

 

20 May 2017 11:00:00
Hi ed's

do you think it is silly to let Ojo go to the U20's seeing as this was the cause of his bad injuries this year?

The Southern Red

{Ed001's Note - no, he needs to be playing football.}


 

 

13 May 2017 17:27:11
Here's hoping we see a Joe Allen stormer with him scoring a 30 yard winner in the 88th minute!

The Southern Red

1.) 13 May 2017 17:48:29
Glen Johnson is defending like he did at Liverpool at moment. 15 gone 0 0 but arsenal looking decent at moment.


2.) 13 May 2017 17:58:59
Was just reading sky sports coverage and the last post was "Stoke seem to lack any kind of intensity" I guess they are on their holidays being safe and all, the upshot is we don't need any favours if we win our last 2.


3.) 13 May 2017 23:56:55
I said repeatedly that Stoke will provide little to no resistance and Glen Johnson is proving me right with his brainfarts already. Arsenal is up 1-0 and I expect Stoke to crumble after this now cos Arsenal will just play counter attack and they are lethal at taking advantage of open spaces.


 

 

08 May 2017 21:20:10
Hi All,

I know Milner does just want to do well for the team, but for the amount that he is on and the unorthodox position that he is playing.

Do you see him leaving this summer, i would hope that benitez may see a reunion with newcastle but unlikely!

The Southern Red

1.) 08 May 2017 21:32:57
He's a good lad, but where's he going to play next season and beyond?

He does a job at left back, but with us relying on fullbacks for width and him cutting back inside to use his right foot all the time, it's not quite what we need. I think he'd do better at right back where he'd be able to cross on the fly, but that's only a home for him if the club are going to sell and not directly replace Clyne.

I still have nightmares about him playing central midfield and as a winger, he'd be a squad player at best.

I'd sell Clyne and keep Milner as a right back and as cover at left back or on the wing. But that may not be the club's plans and even if it is, if TAA establishes himself as first choice right back then Milner's basically utility cover only. Can't imagine him being too happy with that.


2.) 08 May 2017 22:12:37
I'd keep Milner too for next season, but neither as LB or offensive midfielder. I think he's sharpened his defensive skills a bit this year and he could come in handy purely as a backup for the central/ holding midfield positions. His main attributes being the professionalism and work rate he brings to the team.


3.) 08 May 2017 22:17:44
I was hoping for Leeds to come up I would of thought that would be a nice move for the lad playing at his boyhood club in the prem.


4.) 08 May 2017 22:32:21
not sure that TAA is destined for the right back role, have you seen his goal against Everton tonight, also very good assist from Gruic.


5.) 09 May 2017 00:53:01
Sell Moreno and Clyne, get a left back, Milner can cover both well.


6.) 09 May 2017 01:39:58
I'd keep Milner as a utility player. Can play 2nd fiddle to the new LB we sign, and can be used as a sub for the likes of Mane and Coutinho in games we need to see out after taking a good lead.
Should not be 1st choice though.


7.) 09 May 2017 08:47:19
Milner seems to have a super-professional attitude; he is a leader with a strong will to win. We need more players with his temperament.


8.) 09 May 2017 09:32:02
yes, I thought TAA was more of an attacking midfielder in the academy?


 

 

 

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25 may 2017 23:47:26
klopp is going to rack up some avios points from that purchase.

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25 May 2017 19:43:39
he is worth more than £1m, i would say more the £5/ 6m range, however he is young (ish) and english so who knows. plus think we managed to get 15 million for ibe and 6 for smith which was mad in itself.

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25 May 2017 19:01:41
From what i hear there has been a few enquiries from a number of premier league and championship clubs, however quite a few aren't keen on entertaining the idea of the £10m price tag put on him.

Brighton seem the most keen but we shall see if liverpool lower their valuation!

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24 May 2017 08:31:45
Thanks!

interesting point on Owoniyi, guess he is something we don't really have upfront so would be good to see how it plays in and around the team.

I would like to see kent at least given a chance in the pre-season see how he does as he is only 20 and so has lots of time on his hands!

I feel chirivella will have come on leaps and bonds playing for a the eagles, i would like to see him loaned to another eredevise club again (preferable somewhere higher up the table)

Allan, i am hoping another season at hertha, he will become more of a regular in the team, so even if he doesn't get the chance to play for us he will develop nicely!

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24 Apr 2017 23:01:52
what's happening with coman that is making them unhappy?

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{Ed002's Note - Interest from elsewhere.}


 

 

 

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25 May 2017 12:18:06
As would I.

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25 May 2017 12:18:06
As would I.

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14 May 2017 20:43:31
who are you all talking about sorry i can't see a name haha!

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10 May 2017 21:33:42
well that ends that hope then.

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03 May 2017 00:23:33
i seem to remember making the same comment a few weeks back, and what the ed's said was it was better for him to be playing regularly for u23's than the odd 3/ 4 mins here and there.

I assume he will be of a number of players who will seek clarification in the summer. i would be happy to see him go to somewhere as kent has and perform well.

As a few people have said and i agree, this country is awful at writing off players when they hit 20. he has many years to come . if he keeps working hard then he will get his opportunity.

The Southern Red

{Ed002's Note - We all want to see kids come through but sadly it happens less and less with the stakes rising constantly.}