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04 Mar 2019 17:08:56
Hi Ed001

Quick one - and genuine question.

Whenever someone mentions a top class player, you always seem to say - would be a replacement for Salah, or Mane. etc.

Why is this? Why can’t we add world class players to the squad like Utd and City?

Utd have Rashford, Sanchez, martial, Lukaku, Mata, Pogba - all attacking type players
City have Mahrez, Sane, Silva, Sterling, Silva, KDB, Kun and Jesus

I’m not being facetious, just curious?

Surely 50-60 games a season warrants rotation and players would expect this?

If Mane / Salah / Firmino isn’t performing we have poor quality alternatives, and for me will be the only reason for us not winning the league.

Torres23

{Ed002's Note - You are not comparing like for like - Pogba is not a forward, nor now is Mata. Again with midfield you are no comparing like for like. Liverpool have Salah, Firmino, Mane, Origi, Sturridge, until recently Ings plus the likes of Brewster as forward options - how many games have the likes of Sturridge, Origi etc. Play? Hardly any. So even if Liverpool could afford £135M to buy Insigne, why would he move to sit on the bench? Ask Mahrez or Sane how it is going for them right now. As a Liverpool fan it is hardly a surprise for you to consider Sturridge, Brewster, Origi as “poor quality”. And Harry Wilson - give him a chance and sell him on? There is rotation in the cups, but in the league clubs need consistency, and chopping and changing players is not the way forward.


1.) 04 Mar 2019 18:13:47
Spot on, Ed02. I think people look at City and say "Well, Sane, Mahrez and Sterling all play some part". Well, we are not city nor Utd so we cannot compare ourselves to them. Also, if the front 3 are definitely starters and you get an Insigne, what happens then? Insigne ain't coming here to sit on the bench for a second so why bother getting him if he is not going to be starting. I mean, even Julian Brandt did not want to come here and be on the bench so why would a player like Insigne do that?

{Ed002's Note - Things have changed with JB now playing a CAM role and it may make some sense - but I am not aware of interest.}


2.) 04 Mar 2019 19:21:22
TI heard that as well, Ed02. I watched him play last season and indeed, he had moved to the no. 10 role cos Bayer had Belarabi and Bailey out wide now. I hope we are interested in him and can get a deal done cos he gave an interview last season, saying he actually wanted to come to us BUT he was not sure if he would start regularly enuff to make the WC squad. I take him at his word.


3.) 04 Mar 2019 19:39:14
Ed002 is spot on.
The question is “does Klopp not play his fringe players because they’re not good enough or does he not play them because his ethos is play your best available team every game”?
We know Guardiola is happy to rotate his squad but we’ve never seen it from Klopp since he arrived. We also know Dortmund struggled from late season burn out which is associated with not rotating your squad.


4.) 04 Mar 2019 19:54:03
The front three play all the games though because their is no one of similar quality challenging them.

{Ed002's Note - Nonsense. This who "pity poor Liverpool" nonsense is embarrassing. I am sure people won't be happy until Liverpool kick out the dead wood like Brewster, Wilson etc. and get some decent squad players in like Insigne and Werner to fill in when the front three are tired. All efforts to buy the league are working with the club top of the league but we still see constant bloody whining. You maybe want to look at other clubs sites where the fans support the team.}


5.) 04 Mar 2019 21:10:53
From what i recall from his time in the Bundesliga, Klopp traditionally hasn't rotated his league teams that much. His tactics rely heavily on players understanding each other so that they can rotate positions on the field fluidly so obviously the more they play together the better this becomes. He is also clearly trying to offload some players so Im not expecting much happening this next transfer season in terms of players coming in.


6.) 04 Mar 2019 20:48:39
Hi Ed

Thanks for the reply. I’m not daft and am well aware that they are not exactly the same type of positional players. I also believe in giving the kids like Wilson / Brewster a chance - just like McTominay and Foden.

My point is why we players shouldn’t be content to rotate with other players of their quality?

Studge / Origi / Lallana are great players on / in their day but better players have come in.

All I’m saying is 4 quality front players and a ‘kid (like Brewster for example) for 3 places should be accepted - considering all the games.

It works with the midfield - Milly, Hendo, Fab, Keita, Gini, Shaq all completing for 3 spots. And before you say it, yes, I’m aware that they all bring something different to the team - and that flexibility is exactly what is great in my opinion.

All I’m saying is why we can’t have a similar thing with the front 3. Surely better players would allow more rotation.

{Ed002's Note - If you are a Liverpool supporter and not acted should have you stuffed and put on display.}


7.) 05 Mar 2019 01:58:06
Wow juatin Beiber is playing cam. must be hard on the fans!


 

 

16 Jan 2019 20:04:15
Wirral Wonder, the poster simply mentioned a transfer rumour, and the last time I looked, this was called Transfer Rumours 😂.

Torres23

1.) 16 Jan 2019 20:35:25
Torres23, fair point but I simply pointed out that the ‘rumour’ is clearly nonsense and as such surely it does not need the Ed’s or other posters to confirm whether there is any truth in it.


2.) 16 Jan 2019 20:37:26
Thanks Torres, typical of here now.


 

 

08 Jan 2019 17:45:09
Was Philips injured last night? If not, then I’d love to know the reason why we would play a kid (albeit a future superstar in the making) against a full strength Wolves team if we won’t risk him on Sat?
Surely we should be playing the players that actually would have to stand in, given a problem / injury?

Same goes for players that won’t be here next season. What’s the point? What have we learned? Moreno, Studge and Origi - all with contracts expiring very very soon and won’t be here next year? May as well have given a LB a run that may actually stand a chance of stepping up next season.
Love Klopp but weird decisions in these cup matches sometimes.?

Torres23

1.) 08 Jan 2019 18:36:06
I believe that Phillips is injured, as is Gomez, Matip and now Lovren, that is why Hoever played yesterday.
Klopp see's the players every day in training and decided that Moreno was the best available left back that we had. It's not difficult to understand.
I saw people on here yesterday slamming the young players for not being good enough, in hindsight Klopp probably shouldn't have played any of the young players as the Liverpool supporters aren't prepared to back their players after a narrow defeat to a full strength Wolves team.


2.) 08 Jan 2019 19:26:38
The young players are blameless for the Wolves defeat, the real problem was the experienced professionals who played last night were not good enough and a few of them were dreadful.
When the 1st team is rested the drop in quality is massive, so changing almost the whole team last night gave Liverpool the result they deserved against a decent Wolves side.
We simply do not have a good enough squad to be in all competitions and some of those players need to be moved on.
I am not saying that because of this defeat but a few of our players have been playing at that level for a long time.
But as Ron Keague said in his post, the likes of Sturridge, Origi and Moreno virtually never play and are then thrown on the pitch together and turn in a poor performance as they are not match ready.


3.) 08 Jan 2019 19:42:06
People moan about the drop in quality yet when a decent player is mentioned for the front three on here whoever posted is hit with a load of sarcastic answers like "why would he come to be back up to Mo, Sadio and Bobby". the fact is we need AT LEAST 18 top players not 11 for a long season. The squad we have is doing a great job but the more top players we have the further we would go into each competition which in turn would make sure everyone got enough game time.


4.) 08 Jan 2019 21:26:41
Hoever was not the problem in that back four. At times he looked the most confident of the cbs. I say that because fab doesn't play their. If the two cbs had had the fbs next to them wolves would not have scored their first. We would have took the lead and gone on to win.

The worry is his size. He is simply too small, but on the ball he showed major confidence. There were times, in our own half, deep on our own half and hoever didn't panic. Instead he wrong foots one player, dips the wee and skins another before pinging an inch perfect pass up the field. There was little flicks behind him (and the oncoming attacker) , beats the opposition player to the ball and pings one forward to the boys up front.

Sadly, the boys up front were effing ise less. DS is an absolute Colin. What's he on? £130.00 a year. No that a week isn't it. I would release him, eff him. If that's how he is going to play I totally see why klopp doesn't pick him.

So, that leaves origi and sturridge to cover for the three musketeers. That doesn't give me a warm feeling, vit freaks me out. There is still a lot of January left. We need another striker or attacking midfielder (which is what our players up front are really eh, AMs) loop

I went right off sturridge last night. Last season I would have been gutted if we sold him. Scored some great goals, done plenty of physio therapy.


 

 

10 Dec 2018 23:36:00
Hey Square Tomato / Ed's

Just a thought, but considering Gomez's pace, etc. Why hasn't Klopp played him in front of the back 2?
I think he would be truly awesome there - especially in games against teams that are more attacking like City / Ars etc.?

He's played LB under Brendan, and RB under Klopp but never in MF?

Torres23

1.) 11 Dec 2018 02:03:32
hes doing very well as a CB and complements van dijk very well. really don't see a reason to move him elsewhere. CB partnerships are harder to build really imo.


2.) 11 Dec 2018 02:05:46
I’m not sure if pace is the main attribute people look for when picking a central midfielder.


3.) 11 Dec 2018 05:30:35
Interesting thought. Wonder if he has the engine or the nous for that position?


4.) 11 Dec 2018 05:44:32
We have decent central midfielders so why play him in midfield?


5.) 11 Dec 2018 07:18:33
Nah, I expect him to be our long term CB for years to come, keep him to what he's used to and good at. TAA in midfield? sure but not Gomez.


 

 

 

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04 Mar 2019 20:48:39
Hi Ed

Thanks for the reply. I’m not daft and am well aware that they are not exactly the same type of positional players. I also believe in giving the kids like Wilson / Brewster a chance - just like McTominay and Foden.

My point is why we players shouldn’t be content to rotate with other players of their quality?

Studge / Origi / Lallana are great players on / in their day but better players have come in.

All I’m saying is 4 quality front players and a ‘kid (like Brewster for example) for 3 places should be accepted - considering all the games.

It works with the midfield - Milly, Hendo, Fab, Keita, Gini, Shaq all completing for 3 spots. And before you say it, yes, I’m aware that they all bring something different to the team - and that flexibility is exactly what is great in my opinion.

All I’m saying is why we can’t have a similar thing with the front 3. Surely better players would allow more rotation.

Torres23

{Ed002's Note - If you are a Liverpool supporter and not acted should have you stuffed and put on display.}


 

 

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26 Feb 2019 07:40:50
Sometimes I’m screaming for our wide men to get to the by-line but it doesn’t happen too often - when it does though - we often score or cause chaos. Doesn’t happen enough.
You look at the majority of City’s goals and they come from Sane, Bernardo Silva or Sterling getting in behind the last man.

For me that’s the only difference between our 2 playing styles and number of goals.

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