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10 Oct 2022 17:40:04
Trent looking for transfer to madrid. That is why he is playing rubbish . He will be gone end of season we will get their midfielder valverdie . Also that is the reason we signed the right back from Aberdeen.
1.) 10 Oct 2022 18:11:48
I’d say citation needed, but it’s a rumours site, so…
I’ll be honest if we swapped Trent for Valverde I’d be fine with that. Valverde is one of the best midfielders in world football. But it’s fantasy stuff.
2.) 10 Oct 2022 20:06:45
Of course, that's the way to attract the big teams, to play crap.
This is why I tell my kids to avoid the crack pipe.
3.) 10 Oct 2022 20:10:12
In the words of eds25 say no to drugs.
4.) 10 Oct 2022 20:12:33
I heard Barcelona might dip in for trent, I wouldn't be assed as he is on the end of a witch hunt by press and opposing fans who are forgetting he is a 23yr old who has won everything he deserves better.
{Ed025's Note - that witch hunt extends to Liverpool supporters at the moment hailstones..
5.) 10 Oct 2022 20:45:56
The witch hunt hastn’t reached this site though eh @Hailstones?
6.) 10 Oct 2022 21:07:41
In the fine words of Zammo “just say no! ”.
7.) 10 Oct 2022 21:08:36
Trent won’t be going but Ramsay needs to step up massively when he’s fit if not we need to bring in a RB to properly compete with Trent. If we miss out on top 4 a big name will definitely go because we aren’t spending otherwise not sure who. Salah? Alisson I think won’t want to end his career with only 1 title wouldn’t surprise me.
8.) 10 Oct 2022 21:12:27
How many times have we all seen top players game go poor then several months later they have moved on?
Ozil, christenson, F Torres, Abamyang, Suarez just a few off top my head . Certain clubs/ agents ask players to construct a move .
In Trents case the boy was being touted the best in his position in the world and within 10 months he is playing like an amature and how do you think us LFC fans would react like if he was on the top of
his game they would be uproar .
I may be wrong but we need a top midfielder madrid need an attacking wing back perfect for both parties . If i am wrong then how can a player of his caliber drop his standards so much and yes he scored a fantastic goal but that just shows the ability is still there for certain club.
9.) 10 Oct 2022 23:27:11
Saying that ed025 as you grew up in the good old age of the 50s and 60s sportsmanship was in its prime amongst honourable gentlemen, trent was born in the wrong era .
{Ed025's Note - football was very different hailstones. It was rough but there was a code of honour unlike today mate. Not as much money and there was a booze culture but it seemed more honest. Unless I’m looking back with rose tinted glasses (that I obviously borrowed from a Liverpool supporter).. ?
10.) 10 Oct 2022 23:38:24
Agreed ed and its deserved for trent he seems to believe his own hype sn forgetting what got him there.
{Ed025's Note - him and quite a few others mate..
11.) 11 Oct 2022 00:29:25
Agreed ed its mind boggling the drop off love to be a fly on the wall following these lot round.
12.) 11 Oct 2022 09:42:36
However Real this rumour is, it does make sense in terms of a fit. Trent's somewhat luxurious style would be perfect for RM or FCB one day, and who could deny a man his dream if that is what he wanted.
As crazy as it sounds, i would not mind if we sold Salah, VVD and Trent to fund a rebuild . That trio must be worth 300m at least.
13.) 11 Oct 2022 09:46:32
As usual, modern football seems to be an exercise in revving up mass hysteria in fans. Liverpool only a couple months ago, were been talked about as having the greatest club season ever, and now they seem to be a shadow of that great team of yesteryears. Sure Mane was sold, but diaz was already a great acquisition last season, and the addition of nunez and the resurgent form of firmino means the attack is okay. Salah however has been in a funk and who is to blame him? Losing the afcon and world cup qualifier, as well as finishing second in both the PL and UCL must not have been easy for him. Yes he signed a new contract, but he's also human, all too human. Hasn't even had a decent break to rest, process the losses, and recalibrate. Same for the entire team. What's happening now is the PL is highly competitive. If this was early noughties when the top 4 was fixed before the season began, it wouldn't really matter as at the very least top 4 would be guaranteed. However this is not the case anymore. I would suggest the fans get behind the team, ride this season out, trust in the process which let's be honest has had fantastic success the past couple seasons, and have faith that this is just a blip, which is understandable and not allow themselves to be get swallowed by the mass hysteria being generated by journalists and rival fans. Ups and downs folks. That's football.
14.) 11 Oct 2022 13:20:38
His attitude and behavior has been very strange. At least pretend you give a f$%k.
It's hard to escape the impression something is up. Will the "ankle injury" extend to the World Cup break? Hmm . . .
15.) 11 Oct 2022 21:18:41
What do you actually think is up then, Red67?
16.) 11 Oct 2022 22:43:56
You could argue TAA not appearing for the second half at arsenal was the reason for the team not being as good as their last 30 minutes of the first half. The reason for his recent demise could be he's not enjoying his football at the moment.
Perhaps he wants a move to play in midfield at another club, as he knows he will never get the chance here? He started his career as a midfield player at the academy and all junior/ senior teams etc. If Hendo gets the Suarez treatment, perhaps that is his chance to play midfield at last.
17.) 12 Oct 2022 08:26:01
All it takes is a bad run of a few games and the nutters with conspiracy theories start coming out of the woodwork.
It makes for comical morning reading though.
Trent is a human being, a relatively young one at that. There could be any number of issues going on with him that we don't know about. Injury, family issues, loss of form and confidence.
But no, this is all happening because Trent wants to play in midfield for Real Madrid.
You simply couldn't make it up.
Keep it up guys, you make my mornings so much brighter!
{Ed025's Note - never a truer word said flash..
17 Mar 2018 12:44:17
Has LFC had a look at the two 19 year old center back at Kieta's team? Watched them against zenith in UEFA cup never lost a header or tackle big future for both of them.
1.) 17 Mar 2018 13:23:17
The whole world has looked at him, he is priced out of a move.
2.) 17 Mar 2018 14:27:11
Upemecanno it is, he’d be excellent alongside Van Dijk, but too expensive.
{Ed002's Note - Dayot Upamecano is priced out of a move to Barcelona at the moment but they will keep trying.}
3.) 17 Mar 2018 15:52:35
Umtiti being difficult again now? hehe.
4.) 17 Mar 2018 17:13:59
Do you know if Liverpool would match the offer Leipzig are looking for Ed? I would say Barcelona wouldn’t have paid what we paid for Van Dijk.
{Ed002's Note - For a player they have not shown an interest in? No.}
30 Jan 2018 12:18:33
Has Klopp got any pulling power? I know he got VVD and Salah who are sound but everyone else he has gone for have snubbed us and gone somewhere else. so what powers has he got because Ming, Lovren, Moreno, Gomez, Firmino, Can, Clyne are Brendan's signings. I was lead to believe he found all these players for buttons while at Dortmund?
1.) 30 Jan 2018 12:28:34
This guy is a troll, no?
2.) 30 Jan 2018 12:32:39
Seriously? I have no idea who people think they’ve watched for the last ten years. We talk like we’ve been watching Barcelona instead of Liverpool.
3.) 30 Jan 2018 13:16:00
Who exactly have we gone for?
4.) 30 Jan 2018 14:22:21
VVD and got him.
5.) 30 Jan 2018 15:43:49
There is a joke about Klopp and his wife here somewhere, i just can't get the punchline.
6.) 30 Jan 2018 16:39:40
It's not klopp that is the issue, it is the north of England. The only reason city and utd get their players is well. Wages. Money orientated players.
7.) 30 Jan 2018 16:53:09
I don't think it was Klopp that got the players for Dortmund.
8.) 30 Jan 2018 18:22:37
Only some grainy CCTV footage and a doormans statement can confirm that about Klopp.
9.) 30 Jan 2018 21:14:55
Please tell me which player is top class and not money oriented. Even Salah the humble has inform his agent to enquire about real Madrid interest.
10.) 31 Jan 2018 12:31:24
Would you be happy in the workplace if you liked your job BUT found out others got paid more than you? As he cliche goes it is a short career, all players should be interested in getting good money from their time, although it shouldn’t be their god.
But as others have said who are these star players who have turned down Klopp/ LFC?
11.) 31 Jan 2018 14:20:30
Irish rover if your right then why didn’t we sign the person who found these players? If it weren’t Klopp . The north west another reason lol well shanks Bob Kenny all got top players to north west and won leagues and trophies next wages another reason that’s why players go to Manx’s no it is because they are going to win trophies so that kills that one . next one he got VVD well yes he did but cost us a extra 25 million due to illegal approach and did say he got him . He has tried to get Pulisic. Monaco player and others are they in LFC shirts! O and his misses no joke about the mans wife just pulling top player for LFC.
12.) 31 Jan 2018 14:23:37
I never mentioned money orientated players.
22 Jan 2018 12:15:59
Hi reds, just read Mo could be away to Madrid in Summer. When we sold Louis then Philip we gave clubs idea we are a selling club and if you don't take no for answer and turn players head finding gems like the three mentioned will be very very hard to replace and if we do replace them then how long would we keep them . A stand has to be made now by the club by putting massive buyout clauses like Spanish teams do or we stay a selling club and go no we're.
1.) 22 Jan 2018 12:50:13
What good would buyout clauses do?
They are rarely met and players usually move for much less.
2.) 22 Jan 2018 12:59:58
You mean the Egyptian FA guy? Cause it's likely that Real picked up the phone to someone they've never had any reason to speak to just to lay out their summer transfer plans? Sure, doesn't sound unlikely at all. This guy definitely isn't just trying to capitalise on the brief period of time where people care about the Egyptian FA at all by trying to make himself a media figure with exclusive information on clubs like Real.
{Ed002's Note - This is old news. I have previously explained that Salah had his agent approach Real Madrid about any interest in him as he had concerns he may miss the opportunity to move there. There have since been further meetings.}
3.) 22 Jan 2018 13:49:52
We really need to be bringing through a strong core of youngsters who would die for the Liverpool shirt. Getting fed up of these new signings angling for a move.
4.) 22 Jan 2018 13:55:52
Im assuming we have no intention of letting him go. It would be ridiculous selling or 2 best players in the same year.
{Ed002's Note - Right.}
5.) 22 Jan 2018 14:06:37
Is klopp aware of these further meetings ed002? Honestly if it carries on id happily sell him in the summer. Who the hell does he think he is, looking for a move 6 months after joining the club.
{Ed002's Note - Whether Klopp is aware or not (I imagine he is) there is nothing wrong with his agent talking to Madrid.}
6.) 22 Jan 2018 14:14:21
So he is off, coutihno part 2 only a lot quicker unfortunately.
{Ed002's Note - Who has said he is off. Posts like this are the reason it is best not to explain certain things.}
7.) 22 Jan 2018 14:16:56
You can’t lock players down forever, the only thing you can do is make sure if they ever push to leave to the likes of Barcelona and RM, then they leave on your terms too (ie. you get paid enough and with plenty of time to arrange a suitable replacement and then some. ) In the long term we also need to win trophy’s otherwise we will always have this issue.
142mln for Coutinho vs 35mln for Salah and Mane coming in shows it’s not impossible to manage the situation, even if we have been exceptionally lucky with how well Salah in particular has worked out so far.
{Ed002's Note - I would ignore the finances.}
8.) 22 Jan 2018 14:17:13
If he leaves bet we get gelson Martin's.
9.) 22 Jan 2018 14:23:33
It seems certain Real will make an offer, and LFC may be faced with another player simply refusing to play in any useful way, as coutinho did.
If Salah simply cannot be persuaded to stay, and if his incredible form continues through the summer and the world cup, LFC should be looking for a Neymar level fee of between £150-200 million.
The rumoured £70m summer bid would be a derisory offer for a man who on current form is one of the top five attacking players in the world, and if Real do make such a low bid I believe LFC would be better to deny a move regardless of the player's threats not to play.
If they won't pay a fair price, and if he won't play, I would rather he rot on the sidelines and train alone, and pay his wages for a full season, than be cheated out of £100 million by a Spanish mega club.
Sell only if we absolutely have to, but please don't get swindled by Real. Do as Daniel Levy did with Bale, and screw every single penny out of them.
10.) 22 Jan 2018 13:34:17
And you can't get any pharaoh than that.
11.) 22 Jan 2018 15:27:44
I would have thought it's fairly standard practice to scope out interest. at the very least it would allow his representatives to get him a substantially better deal with us. Given how short the lifespan of a football player is I cannot blame them for trying to maximise their position and finances. I also think the days of dying for the shirt are gone as the voice of fans have grown louder and their fickle and "turncoat" nature has become more apparent.
{Ed001's Note - I would not worry about it.}
12.) 22 Jan 2018 15:27:47
Actually selling Coutinho may not hurt this situation. If he went for 142m and Salah has been stunning this season there is plenty of scope for setting a price that any club will struggle with. The days of saying a player isn’t for sale could be dead anyway since they can run down the contract and go for nothing. Any player is for sale if the price to the club and offer the the player is acceptable. If someone offered 250M for Salah and he wanted to go would it be the right thing to say no?
13.) 22 Jan 2018 16:12:16
I actually know Mo personally and he is a different type of person to your normal footballer. I was introduced through my football circle as an investment consultant for overseas players which I have been doing for 5 yrs and we became close. He really is one of the best I've met and would think he would be loyal to LFC for at least a couple more years.
14.) 22 Jan 2018 16:52:42
From your mouth to God's ears, Ray.
15.) 22 Jan 2018 15:18:25
Ed I say he was off as his agent talking too Madrid at his requests I take it they aren't meeting too decide what they all can have for tea are they, they have meeting to basically get the ball rolling at the earliest possible stage.
{Ed002's Note - player’s representatives talk with clubs all of the time.}
16.) 22 Jan 2018 17:38:35
I think the Phil saga showed that the club do not want to be seen as a selling club at all. But when a player's head is turned by the big dogs there is little we can do, the reality is that majority of players want to play at the highest level and we aren't able to offer that at the minute.
Very easy as Liverpool fans to think what a privilege and honour it is to play for our great club but for a kid from Brazil or Egypt Barcelona, real Madrid would surely be the dream?
17.) 22 Jan 2018 15:01:58
Agree Ed, just trying to make the point that selling someone for a high price tag doesn’t that they’re irreplaceable - we have a more dangerous frontline than ever now.
18.) 22 Jan 2018 18:10:30
Ed002 I may have misinterpreted what you said, but I have to disagree that there's "nothing wrong with his agent talking to madrid" under his instruction. Maybe technically/ legally there isn't a problem, but morally and professionally I think that's a poor showing.
{Ed002's Note - How would you expect player transfers to happen. Even Liverpool when acting professionally deal with agents on a day-by-day basis.}
19.) 22 Jan 2018 18:48:25
Is this guy hailstones damaged goods?
20.) 22 Jan 2018 18:51:32
I think the dream for every footballer is to become the best player they can, win the most they can and make the most they can. Barcelona and Madrid are just the easy route to all 3, nevermind that they go head to head every season. If Liverpool can prove themselves on the world stage for multiple reasons (and truthfully we are getting there with Klopp) then it will be accepted by players that we can give them everything they want. As is, we have to persuade the world's best we are the next move for them with the begrudging acceptance that they will inevitably look for a move to another, presumably better, club.
21.) 22 Jan 2018 21:07:34
Test Real and ask for Asensio as part of the deal, bet they back off then if they do bid!
22.) 23 Jan 2018 10:55:05
Calm down everyone, he's allowed to have his agent speak to other employers.
I'd wager many players of other clubs are doing the same thing with Liverpool as we speak.
23.) 24 Jan 2018 12:01:11
Madrid are kind of on a downward spiral and I can’t see Klopp selling Salah until at least the end of NEXT season, and hopefully Madrid keep spiralling down so they aren't as much as an attractive proposition xD
There defense and midfield is still amazing but their attacking options are getting on a bit now and as proven this season, they are apparently human (Mainly Ronaldo) and are not performing to expextations.
He is 33 next month an by the end of the next season, 35. 😅
Bale kinda seems to have been done in a bit with his injuries but he’s still class, Benzema looks to be done too.
And, mainly, everybody seems to want to go to Barcelona instead of Madrid lately.
I could be completely wrong with this post like, heck Ronaldo will get his form back and then could prove he is inhuman again and continue at his top level until he's 40 😂.
12 Jan 2018 14:38:39
What's happened to the transfer prices for players it is getting out of hand . I blame the Spanish league, they buy a player for let's say £15 million and then put a fee for buy out clause for something stupid like £200 million this has been going on for a long time now inflating transfers UEFA need to step in and put a end to this system it is against all that football stands for and must be addressed now.
I can see in the very near future that professional football will implode in the same way as the banks went and will struggle to survive as the Italy league nearly went a few years ago. How can LFC justify £30 million for Studge he has a very long history of injuries Walcott to Everton is the same. I know we have just pocketed a large sum from Barcelona and though we have the money does not help either us or Barcelona .
To replace Coutinio it will cost most of what we received from and Barcelona will have sell players and merchandise to pay for transfer it is total madness and will ring the death knoll for football for ever if we don't address it soon.
1.) 12 Jan 2018 16:06:11
It’s not getting out of hand it’s already completely out of hand! When Barcelona put a €198 clause on Neymar and PSG called their bluff and matched it, it was only going to go one way.
2.) 12 Jan 2018 16:07:28
The more TV money the more available cash the higher the price for players. Don't think the Spanish system is specifically to blame particularly but interesting post to avoid the other usual ones asking eds the same names every 5 minutes.
3.) 12 Jan 2018 16:11:04
The Spanish league isn't to blame. To even suggest that is ridiculous.
The reason player prices have gone up is that clubs have more money to spend due to increased revenues from sponsorship, TV money etc.
There might well be clubs that implode because they overspend in the expectation that the revenues keep increasing.
4.) 12 Jan 2018 16:33:56
To be fair to PSG, if he says more then 4/ 5years that was one hell of a bargain, gunna be the worlds best for a long time soon and he’s still young a massive asset with resale value same with what they paid for mbappe. Great Buisness.
5.) 12 Jan 2018 17:28:28
Spending is on the same percentage of clubs revenue that is has always been. I may be corrected here but somewhere around 20% of revenue has been a regular figure to spend on record (or high at the time) transfer fees since football was a business.
I did see an article sometime last year listing all British record fees as a percentage of turnover and they were all pretty consistent but i can't find it now. But as an example,
When we bought Stan Collymore in '95 for 8.5 million, it was deemed a massive fee. Our turnover was somewhere in the region of 50 million.
In March 2017, our turnover was announced as being around 300 million and our record signing that summer was Naby Keita for 55 million.
A huge jump in price but not in comparison to percentage of turnover. Clubs are spending within their means, because there is so much more money in the game now. The fees may be astronomical, but clubs are not spending, in general, what they can't afford.
6.) 12 Jan 2018 18:14:13
In their title winning season Blackburn Rovers spent 73% of their turnover on transfers, that's the equivalent of United spending £970 million last summer.
7.) 12 Jan 2018 18:18:53
In my opinion there are three teams to blame for the inflated prices and that PSG and the two Manchester clubs. Even Chelsea with the Russians wads of cash didn't go this stupid.
8.) 12 Jan 2018 18:42:16
The only issue i have with all this is why do we the fans have to pay upwards of £50 a ticket.
9.) 12 Jan 2018 18:57:27
Its quite clearly because of the rising revenues from TV and sponsorship. It needs some kind of regulation. Giving teams more money does NOT improve the game in any way. It just means the transfer market levels out after its been inflated. £80 million player today is £200 million tomorrow, but the spending power of teams does not change, only the prices. If the increased revenues was being used to reduce ticket prices id be all for that, but it isnt.
10.) 12 Jan 2018 18:58:40
Not us paying £75 mil on a centre back then?! I agree we’re perhaps late to the party, but we’re involved now!
11.) 12 Jan 2018 19:02:47
I seem to recall a few clubs sniffing around Wright philips and offering 11 million. Chelsea went in and bought him for 22. So I don't agree with that part of your statement.
12.) 12 Jan 2018 19:12:36
Decimus-Because that’s the going rate, FSG could chuck £20/ 30 on top of the prices and I think Anfield would still be a sell out, so you could argue they are under priced.
13.) 12 Jan 2018 19:49:39
I think if you have a market with as few major players as football then suddenly introduce an oil rich country with effectively unlimited money it's always going to send the prices wacky. People have been saying money is ruining the game since Forest dropped £1m on Trevor Francis nearly 40 years ago and still seems pretty good to me!
14.) 12 Jan 2018 20:10:43
Under priced? Give it a rest.
15.) 12 Jan 2018 21:05:22
Looking at it from a business sense why would they drop ticket prices when they sell Anfield out for every game? I’d rather pay less for a ticket but I would rather pay less for everything if possible.
16.) 12 Jan 2018 21:27:34
Because it would attract younger fans, families, maybe people who have never been to a game. plus it would draw the attention of sponsors if we were one of the first clubs to do it. Get people talking about the club. And the money made on gate reciepts doesn't mean as much as it used to. The fans are the life of any club.
17.) 12 Jan 2018 21:43:26
We are far from struggling for fans or sponsors. The fact we sell out every home game proves this.
18.) 12 Jan 2018 22:33:26
I used to view it from the perspective of supply and demand, and from that point of view, you are right. We fill out anfield every game. We could charge more and it would still fill out. Football is a business etc.
But football is nothing without fans. Clubs have a level of social responsibility. With the amount of money in the game today, no fan, regardless of age or background, should be alienated from the game on price. The game may be more business orientated but Liverpool Football Club, is first and foremost, a football club. A community built by the fans, for the fans, not an institution to exploit the fans. The demographic of fans who go to the matches should not be narrowed to a slim shred of society by price. Anfield will continue to fill up because there are always richer fans who will come, but it doesn't mean that those who are poorer should not be able to. If it was me id be overhauling everything with loyalty schemes, deals for children and young people, ways to encourage noise at anfield, safe standing areas, the lot.
{Ed025's Note - i like that AW mate..
19.) 12 Jan 2018 23:14:59
Well said woolback.
20.) 13 Jan 2018 00:12:40
I agree with the sentiment 100% AW but, the Premier League clubs and in particular, clubs like ours are internationally renowned sports teams. I live near Oxford (that does not make me rich, far from it) and I feel as connected to the club as a local may do. But because I don't have a season ticket, pretty much passed down through generations, I can barely get to Anfield and I end up having to watch the matches via other means (If you know what I mean, I've not missed a game in the last few seasons) . It's not the fault of local fans, but because of the size of the club, everybody wants tickets and it drives prices up. If I had my way, there would be no season tickets and it would be a lottery style selection process per match. That way, I may get to see the team I spend so much of life devoted to. If Metallica were run like like a football club, I'd never get to see them and in my mind, in the modern game, there's barely any difference.
Basically 50 odd quid to the average fan, of which there are millions compared to the 50 odd thousand in attendance, means nothing.
21.) 13 Jan 2018 05:50:57
AW-There is loyalty schemes and sales for locals.
WKD- Liverpool have (or at least did have) the lowest percentage of season ticket holders to seats so what your saying is rubbish, I don’t live in Liverpool or have an inherited season ticket but I still manage to get to 10-15 games per season so your obviously not trying hard enough, it can be frustrating at times the ticket process but if you get yourself a membership you will get tickets if you try hard enough.
22.) 13 Jan 2018 06:33:40
Back in the day when football was a contact sport and footballers lived in the real world clubs main income was from attendances. We sold out every week then. Did we over price it so fans couldn’t afford it? No we didn’t.
Then sponsorship came in and at one point came close to matching income from attendances, but before it got there SkyTV changed the game. They threw millions at clubs and now it’s billions.
Premier league clubs don’t really need the revenue from fans anymore, it’s just greed that stops them lowering prices. That and FFP.
{Ed025's Note - i agree with all that ron..
23.) 13 Jan 2018 08:55:49
Best debate I've seen on here for years - thanks.
Like WRKD I have been a massive reds fan since the day the King signed but living in Birmingham am squeezed out.
Conga - the membership scheme might as well be a season ticket. The ticket sale is fixed to who went to lots of games last season. It's chicken and egg - nothing to do with "trying harder". Because you went to 15 games last season you get first dibs on buying another 15 - making it self perpetuating. I enter the sale 3 days later and there are only tickets left for 2 games - which keeps low down the queue for next time. For me it's a vicious circle.
Thanks to the cup scheme, I get to all cup matches - and bring my kids. But that leaves me with almost entirely midweek games - which is not easy from brum - nor cost efficient. So think again about the "try harder" comment.
24.) 13 Jan 2018 09:41:51
Brummie- I don’t have 15 premiership games from last season on my record so the only advantage I have over you is that I’m elegible for the big games (Everton, Utd, City, Arsenal, Chelsea, spurs) I will have exactly the same chance as you in the rest of the games.
Being from Birmingham is irrelevant and other than the newly introduced local sale (heard it’s a fairly low number) ticket sales don’t discriminate against location.
I agree it must be a nightmare getting back to Birmingham after a midweek game but you’ve made a rod for your own back by not supporting a team local to yourself, there is nothing the club can do about that.
I have supported the club all my life and have been fairly regular at Anfield for most of it, however it’s only been 3 years since I moved back to the north west after being in the army and in that time I have got a membership and managed to get a good amount of tickets and built up some loyalty where I’m guaranteed European and all Cup games and I can get to a upto 10 league games a season so it’s not a closed shop.
With regards to the group members sale, I have had little lucky with that the last few years, I find have much more joy on the individual members resale.
25.) 13 Jan 2018 11:27:00
You're right, I gave up trying hard because I was getting nowhere and so I only get to a game once in a blue moon. It is difficult to get to matches and you saying you only get the big games for loyalty proves it - that's near enough half you're stated attendance. Yes I can get to some cup games, but they aren't exactly high profile ones, and more often than not, the team you're watching doesn't contain half the players you hoped to see. To get in the position where I could see a Merseyside derby, for example, would take several years of preparation and then, if I missed one, through say illness, I would have to go right back down the ladder again. Etc etc. All I'm saying is people that complain about the price they pay to see games forget how fortunate they are to see the games at all. To go any gig of an act just as high profile and you'll pay more. It's an entertainment business, not a social gathering nowadays.
26.) 13 Jan 2018 12:46:01
WRKD- Why would being ill knock you back for future games? its fairly clear you don’t know the process of getting tickets for Liverpool and are one of many fans who blames non attendance on the system saying it’s impossible. That just isn’t true.
If you try hard you will get to 4 league games in a season and therefore be eligible for the big games the following season, so it would take a year not several.
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28 May 2023 08:04:41
One poor season, one frustrated manager and some people on here want to throw Jurgen under the bus?
Tv shove a mic in his face and ask him questions that they know he will react to then push it so he goes into one.
Notice not many reds on this site picking up on Pep pushing linesman and swearing at the ref, but some posters will post about Jurgen.
Certain posters, look at your posts, you're moaning minies and your having a go at the best manager in the world!
1.) 28 May 2023 08:38:27
And 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 bring on Pavlov’s dogs ….
2.) 28 May 2023 08:39:57
Albey, criticizing someone is not the same as throwing them under the bus. The definition of the latter is to blame someone to save oneself - obviously no supporter is doing that.
Klopp has received a lot of criticism this season, most of it completely justifiable. This season has probably been the worst of his career in terms of performance, and at times he has appeared to have totally forgotten how he made us so good and why the fans became so attached to him. Klopp is 100% the best manager in the world, but he has been far from that recently.
21 May 2023 15:48:35
Gakpo's goal was a perfectly good goal, but when you have officials who have previous disputes with your manager, what would you expect the outcome would be?
I must say this high lights to me how officials could affect the outcome of a match result and i believe an inquiry into this match should be carried out by the premier league concerning Howard and his crew.
1.) 21 May 2023 18:09:52
There seemed an odd peculiarity to the decision to release a statement explaining the rule and why the goal was disallowed. The irony to this, was that their explanation only served to prove they got the call wrong. Numpties! Just hope we don’t miss out by 1 or 2 points. It does seem weird that when bringing in VAR to make more objective decisions, they alter rules to make them more subjective.
Like with handball. It may seem incredibly harsh but the only way to cut out the ambiguity of it is to say if it touches your arm it’s a free kick. Much like in hockey, if it touches your foot it’s a free hit.
Cheers.
2.) 21 May 2023 19:05:34
Greggers, I fully agree with you hence, I mentioned in an earlier post that the PGMOL knew there would be smoke about disallowing a perfectly good goal so 5 mins after the game ended, Webbo and his bros. came out to do clean up duty on aisle 1 saying that the goal was disallowed cos Konsa did not "intend" to play the ball to Van Dijk, which is hogwash cos the rule itself is not based on intent. So now they have created a new standard now for a rule that has been unambiguous for decades, making it more ambiguous than before.
And like you said, they literally proved the opposite and even the MOTD guys said it was a goal. But they will double down cos it's what they do. The Emperor has no clothes yet still struts around thinking he is the best dressed in town.
Also like Albeydered said, what were we expecting when a ref that was part of the crew Klopp correctly called out for being incompetent and biased (with receipts to prove it, btw) does the game at Anfield? You can't help but feel that way, IMO.
3.) 22 May 2023 05:29:42
Last time i checked no player intends to play it to the opposing player. If they did then you would expect them to be investigated for match fixing.
21 May 2023 09:06:35
Some very dodgy var decisions is the man on var someone else Jurgen has upset?
1.) 21 May 2023 09:56:36
Offside? gakpo goal. konsa plays at the ball, it wasnt unintentional. Yet again the officials get it wrong. Brooks reffing the game? Did we expect anything else.
2.) 21 May 2023 10:03:14
OP, I have just watched the MOTD highlights and wat he’d the incidents again and my goodness, the ref was an absolute farce. On the Hendo pen shout, it was pen according to the law and reg ref pundits but when it’s us, the goal posts change and they start hedging trying to find ways to explain it away like “not enuff contact”. That does not apply to Harry Kane mind you.
On the Mings challenge on Gakpo, who sees that coupled with the stud marks on his chest and says, “Nope, nothing to see here”? The players safety was put in danger yet Mings got off with a yellow. Again, that wouldn’t have applied we’re it Harry Kane with marks on his chest.
Now on the disallowed goal, the VAR and the ref had another shocker here and they knew it from jump. How do you know? The game hadn’t been over for five minutes and you already saw Howard Webb and his bros. come out on clean up duty saying the goal was chalked off cos Konsa inadvertently hit the ball to VVD whereas we can all see he didn’t. He deliberately played the ball TO Virgil via his leg action.
I don’t know if this was a hit job BUT one cannot ignore that things have gotten worse for us at Anfield since Klopp told the truth about the refs if you look at the Brentford game and this one esp with all the diving, flopping to the ground to feign injuries as well as the blatant time wasting antics. Just saying what my eyes are seeing.
3.) 21 May 2023 12:36:17
We weren’t good enough on the day to win the game despite the bad referee.
They should’ve been out of sight before our first real shot on target.
Very Very worried for next season.
4.) 21 May 2023 13:56:26
I won't go to the extent of saying it's something directed at Liverpool, but it's clear as daylight that the decisions were botched up. No doubt in my mind whatsoever that Mings should have been in the dressing room taking an early shower after that full on studs stamp on Gakpo's chest. It's scandalous, it really is. That gang of refs. keep losing credibility day after day.
I'm not on twitter but i read that the ref was asked by VAR to check the monitor to review a call and he refused to do it. I didn't even know that was a thing. More and more twists as to how VAR is being allowed to work.
5.) 21 May 2023 16:08:05
@LFC08, yes, I agree. We did not play well enuff to win BUT that is not and has never justified the blatant incompetence that cost us decisions that we deserved in the game. So had we played better, the ref's incompetent conduct would not have happened or would have been okay? Sorry, not sure how you worked that out, tbh.
We have all seen teams win despite not playing up to their best so us not playing well does not remove from the fact that the officials' incompetence screwed us big time on 3 keay decisions on a cause/ effect level. Not playing well should not justify the officials taking legitimate decisions we deserve away from us nor make it okay for them to screw us or any other team for that matter. You're essentially blaming the victim here which is not on, sorry.
@ArAy1969, I know that for sure BUT it sure looks like what it looks like, I can't lie. As for what you heard or saw on Twitter, I have head on a podcast on things like that happening where they said that Martin Atkinson was told to go to the monitor and he changed his decision which was the right call as he got it wrong. The word is that he confronted said VAR official afterwards and told him to never do that to him in a game cos he felt embarrassed that he was overruled. If any of these are remotely happening then, we are well and truly screwed.
6.) 21 May 2023 16:59:00
Oli, if the primary obective of negating "clear and obvious errors" are being sabotaged by the the referees' insecurities, then VAR is already dead in the water.
7.) 21 May 2023 18:32:35
Agree totally OliRed, not playing great doesn't justify incompetetent (being kind and given benefit of doubt to officials with that description) against us.
8.) 21 May 2023 19:21:19
@ArAy1969, I got another one for ya. A couple of seasons ago, I was listening to one of the podcasts by the Ed's and Ed01 told a story about PL ref Graham Scott who apparently I think gave a decision and actually STUCK with his decision hence, "embarrassing" the VAR official. After that week, He didn't ref a PL game for months. Was that his punishment for making his VAR bro look bad? I have no idea BUT that's out there. Hence to your point, if any of this is happening then, we might as well hold hands and pray for our PL that we love cos the over-inflated ego of these refs will be the death of football in England as we know it.
@Jude my guy, that's what Im saying. Multiple things can be correct at the same time on any topic including football BUT I don't know what is wrong with certain footie fans of today who see things in such binary terms like "If we had made that signing in Jan, we would have won the title" or "We won so it doesn't matter if the ref was dire" and stuff like that. That is not rational thinking in any way esp when you are dealing with a sport that has NO guaranties whatsoever, IMO. Baffling, really.
04 May 2023 19:40:03
When sky push a mic in your face and you're all hyped up things will be said in the heat of the moment and Jurgen fell for the three card trick. i hope he has learnt a lesson, let the officials ref and he manages. But i have to say that ref was pony and trap.
1.) 04 May 2023 20:45:06
Klopp should take a leaf out of Mourinho’s book, mix himself up and shut his mouth occasionally.
2.) 04 May 2023 22:31:03
Like StEtienne, I think sometimes Klopp talks way too much. I know he is trying to be candid and honest but these people do not deserve any of it, IMO. He needs to have a clock in his head that should go off after a while. Or sometimes, just shut the stupid questions down from the off.
3.) 04 May 2023 22:56:21
The most hated people in the world seem to be traffic wardens and fourth officials.
The fourth official holds a substitute and added time board up and they get the brunt of the managers ?.
01 May 2023 22:21:46
That tackle on Diaz should have been a straight red that was a leg breaker and skip did not even get spoken to and who is the idiot in the VAR and the tackle for the pen was a booking .
I am so fed up with these officials, they are killing the game of football they have not got a clue what a foul is just the rules.
1.) 02 May 2023 01:45:41
The standard of refereeing has gone downhill massively in the last couple of years. The players and staff are lifting their game every year, ticket prices go up, wages go up, everyone is getting more professional, and the league is the best league in the world. But, the officiating of matches is not improving along with all these things. They're going backwards, and something needs to change.
2.) 02 May 2023 07:21:12
I can see new breed of technician analysts and AI will become more influential on officiating. The refs of the future will no longer have decision making power - it’ll be the tech calling the shots. Tech is moving too quickly to see any other outcome.
3.) 02 May 2023 07:37:44
Yellow card and Jota was lucky not to see red, so, let's move on.
4.) 02 May 2023 11:29:30
OP, you're not allowed to say that, haven't you heard? You are only allowed to talk about how Jota should have been sent off cos of course, that is the take in the media since the game. The Ryan Mason school of logic, apparently. Klopp was right. Mason has a lot more problems to deal with.
5.) 02 May 2023 11:30:15
Rome__1977, Skip was lucky to still be on the pitch in order for Jota to actually foul him. Fixed it for ya.
6.) 02 May 2023 14:26:06
OliRed, it's my belief that the Skipp challenge was only worthy of a yellow card, he got away with it. Jota deserved a red, he got away with it also. It's all about opinion, which is why I love this site. I respect your view point.
7.) 02 May 2023 16:24:31
To add to this, the penalty that Mo put away, my initial thoughts, shouldn’t there have been a red? He looked last man to me, I didn’t even see a yellow for the foul, thoughts anyone.
8.) 02 May 2023 16:24:46
Rome: Casemiro = red. Gallagher says correct decision. Skipp (not Schipp - sorry lads) identical challenge = no card. Gallagher says 50/ 50 red/ yellow.
So either Casemiro is not a red, but two weeks ago it was. Or Gallagher is protecting Tierney. Because, whether you like it or not, there HAS to be consistency. Or refereeing is finished and we leave it to AI auto bots.
9.) 02 May 2023 18:13:43
Likewise, Rome.
12 Apr 2024 13:01:52
Talk about throw the baby out with the bath!
Ok we got well beat last night i think it was down to pre match talk of fan club with the no flags or banners the atmosphere was very poor and it transfered on to the pitch and the players .
So let's get rid of Diaz he was the best thing since sliced bread the other week wow come on reds.
The player to cash in on is MO. He is coming to the end of time at LFC . Gomez is just not good enough his passing is so poor and last night he struggled to get back to defend sorry but not of the quality expected of LFC Timikas not good enough either and klopp made a mistake in the side he picked sorry but is a fact . Keller looked like he had concushion after he saved with his head . Maybe that is the kick up the arse that the manager his coaches and the players needed because we have been very sloppy the first fifteen mins of every game so far this season and it has not been delt with why is that? is it because it is near the time when all the coaches and manager go i don't know do you?
01 Aug 2023 20:05:19
So we sell a captain for 12 mill and Southampton want 50 mill for a player that could go tits up after a season walk away the lad worth 10 mill at most never mind what edd 25 says if clubs don't make a stand clubs in near future will be asked 200 mill for players like this lad . And edds 25 that is why your club are in such a state paying well over the odds for players that really should of resulted in your demotion .
{Ed025's Note - but it never Albey, despite the failings of our board and owner we are still top flight mate, because we are EVERTON, the pride of merseyside, knock us down if you wish but we always rise like a phoenix from the ashes.. :)
01 May 2023 21:33:35
Thanks mattJ.
21 Apr 2023 11:58:24
Why doesn't Everton buy jones - fit in well with their lot.
19 Apr 2023 16:38:36
Hailstones we are one of them cream of the crop teams your on about we are Liverpool football club.
09 Apr 2024 21:36:28
Wyred we wouldn't be a second place we would be champions because they should not of won the titles they aledgedly cheated i would take both titles with a blink of an eye mate and so would man u . So stop being so rightous mate.
10 Apr 2024 17:54:33
We have had several new players for one to not live up to his talent first season is exeptional
most teams would of taken a season and half to settle in.
06 Apr 2024 07:36:13
Bramley door looks like a christmas tin of biscuits, Tranmere will love playing there.
02 Apr 2024 22:12:28
The lad has not been in the league for a few months. he has had injury problems, stop start season. don't help the lad he has had to change position he has been played at another club. The lad will be a season on next season. Let's see how he does then. its a bit like braithwaite for Everton, had a good season but one swallow don't make a summer.
30 Mar 2024 14:15:02
I said early on when Klopp gave the news that Alonso did not have the management experiance for LFC
Winning the German league is a feather in his cap but winning the Premier league is a diffrent prospect and how long would he need to get the team playing to the standards Klopp had and how long before comparisons of Alonso and klopp . No i think Alonso has made the right choice to stay where is and good luck to him . I believe that LFC will know the best candidate for the job and will go through everything with a fine toothed comb and make the right decision on behalf of the fans the club and the players.