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04 Mar 2017 07:36:46
Any of our players attracting particular interest from other clubs at this moment? Thanks.


1.) 04 Mar 2017 12:39:40
Sakho was wanted by Sevilla and Southampton but we priced him out of a permanent move.

Lucas has always been wanted by Inter Milan. Probably still is.

West Ham are apparently keen on Sturridge.

PSG and Barcelona want Coutinho.

PSG are also credited with interest in Firmino and Lallana but that seems unsubstantiated at best and complete fairytale at worst!

Aside from that it is still unclear who might be going and where they will be going.

I don't think anyone in the squad except Mane, Matip, Wijnaldum and Henderson are guaranteed to be in our first choice starting XI next season. The next likely after that would be Firmino and Karius.

Some because we will want rid, some because we will replace them, and some because they will want out.

2.) 04 Mar 2017 13:43:37
Wijinaldum has done nothing to be a 'guaranteed first choice' player. He blows hot and cold all the time and rarely lifts himself against the smaller teams - he has a lot to prove.

3.) 04 Mar 2017 15:49:01
He was the same for Newcastle. Doubt he's going to change tbh.

4.) 04 Mar 2017 20:19:36
Done nothing except score crucial goals against Chelsea, Man City and now Arsenal! Not to mention his stunning performance against Spurs. He is our new Dutchman for the big occasions!

He is so under rated. I am torn between Gini and Mane as our player of the season so far. He was signed as a left attacking midfielder and put in a much deeper role by Klopp, yet he has adapted so quickly and seems to get better and better every week! I cannot express enough just how highly I rate him.

5.) 05 Mar 2017 04:10:31
As I said he doesn't turn up against the smaller teams - where was the energy and intensity and box-to-box runs vs Leicester? Or is all we crave now are players who'll turn up for a few big games and go missing in all the others? He has been wildly inconsistent this season and this past week of football illustrates that perfectly. Once again Adam you are wildly optimistic about just how good a player is - Wijinaldum our player of the season? Get a grip mate.

6.) 05 Mar 2017 05:17:07
Seano - no one in this team turns up every game. You need to reallywatch games again and put the outcome to the side in order to make a proper assessment. He is as energetic in losses as he was today. but we lost. that clouds all the judgement of him.

7.) 05 Mar 2017 08:19:33
In my opinion, nobody has consistently improved throughout the season more than Wijnaldum. And he is the least inconsistent of the whole bunch. His position depends entirely on the players around him. If they don't turn up for a game, then he can't be blamed for it. He's just another underappreciated player like Henderson. I really wonder what some of the others here, are looking at during games.

{Ed025's Note - wijnaldum is decent ra but he has to produce more often for me, the guy has a great engine but drifts in and out of games mate..

8.) 05 Mar 2017 13:44:26
I just realized that I am blind. Wijnaldum has been one of our most consistent performers. Neat on the ball, is tough, good movement, gets in the right positions, doesn't lose the ball and has a great engine. He does need to improve his final ball and scoring ability (I know he has scored some key goals but still) but that will come. He isn't flashy but efficient and effective. I can't believe people are talking negative about him. Who exactly in our midfield will you replace him with?

9.) 05 Mar 2017 18:18:43
Wijnaldum is 2 thirds into his first season with us so is just about settled in. I think he's done really well considering.

{Ed002's Note - What! A player settling in to Liverpool after only two-thirds of a season - surely not?}

10.) 05 Mar 2017 17:56:21
MK, sportsman bet, Wiji will not be a regular starter next season.

11.) 05 Mar 2017 18:40:11
I like him a lot and i think he will become a top player for Liverpool, much like Henderson is now.

12.) 05 Mar 2017 19:38:08
Exactly Faith in works. I think he is one of our most consistent players. The issue is that as a deeper midfielder he cannot influence the score line directly as often as he did at Newcastle.

His tracking of runners, tackling, passing, pressing, energy and movement is always there. He is one of the few intelligent players we have. He picks the right moments to go forward which is why he so rarely gets caught out of position. Against stronger sides when he can see nobody is getting into the box he makes the decision to break into the box and it has paid off for him.

Seano I think you're being way too harsh. Out of every player in our squad, Gini and Mane are the only guys who always put in a 7/ 10 performance or better. They never have a game where they are glaringly bad or massively at fault. Testimony to Klopp's vision that is, because most people thought they were dreadful signings 6 months ago.

I am not wildly over rating him anyway. I'm not sitting here saying he is world class or the best in the league etc. I am simply saying that in my opinion he has been one of our top performers. I am entitled to my opinion thank you very much. He is still new to the role, still about 3 years off peak age for a midfielder, and he shows desire to learn. I think he could be a bit more vocal but he is an all round great midfielder. He is good at everything and bad at nothing. He just needs to become great at a few things, continue this form in top European competition, and then he can take a step up to the next level and we can HOPEFULLY talk about him potentially being world class in a few years time.

13.) 06 Mar 2017 00:16:33
Mane has been player of the season, by a mile, he's an incredible and his pace and skill scare the opposition. Wijnaldum has pleasantly surprised me. Still think we need a bit more bite in midfield as I think we are too easily out muscled, but you can't knock Wijnaldums effort and commitment.

14.) 06 Mar 2017 21:53:23
Wijnaldum has pleasantly surprised me but as for player of the season? Not for me. Lallana has pleasantly surprised me, I wanted him gone last summer but he has made huge improvements but like Wijnaldum has blown far too hot and cold. Firmino or Mane for me, Mane the reasons are obvious but Firmino for his work rate. The high press would be a massive fail without him, his energy and leading the press from the front is fantastic. If only he would score a few more. I don't think Firmino is a striker though to be fair.

15.) 07 Mar 2017 12:51:40
Wiji has been solid rather than spectacular. or does he seem better than he is due to can being terrible this season.
Personally against the lesser side I'd like to see coutinho drop into midfield and control the game more.
Or go to either way we need pace on the left side.




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14 Apr 2017 10:32:31
Surely harry Wilson will get chances before end of season with mane out. What a season he's having with u23's.


1.) 14 Apr 2017 14:29:42
27 goals is mad for a wide player at any level of football.

Lallana reckons he is one of the most talented youngsters.

2.) 14 Apr 2017 14:31:24
After, pace, directness and end product.

3.) 14 Apr 2017 16:51:47
There's a few very physical sides left to play so I can't see him playing too much. Surely though if we guarantee our champions league qualification soon our young guns will get a few starts.

4.) 15 Apr 2017 02:14:53
Physicality has nothing to do with it, imo he can handle himself, as Wilson doesn't change his game. Plus his feet are too quick, he would get us a lot of free kicks which we are looking more and more likely of scoring from as of late. He also doesn't just play on his side of the pitch he gets in behind, comes short, cuts in, gets the other attacking playing involved. his all round game is mature enough to warrant a chance at some point.



27 May 2016 17:54:30
Hey eds who are the managers working in the UK who you rate highly?


{Ed002's Note - This is the Liverpool page - take it to the Football page.}



05 May 2014 22:47:20
where do we go from here next season then?
there were some poor individual defensive decisions in that last 10 mins, but I believe our porous defence is more due to our style of play rather than the individuals.
would we be in as high a position as we are now if we played in a less offensive manner and conceded less goals? I just don't think we can be competitive in the league and CL next season if we play as we have this season.


1.) I used to think like that BUT I no longer agree. Defending is also an important part of the science we call football. Some are ready to forego a bit of defending in order to reap the rewards of offensive bravery hence, the way Liverpool play. However no matter what fluid style you play, U must be aware of your defensive discipline and have the same desire and willingness to get dirty and make it difficult for people to score on you. BR plays the fluid style w/ a worrying wrecklessness that has plagued us all season (laid to bare today against CP). We seem incapable of just saying to the opposition, "You shall not pass"! We just don`t show the same desire to defend as we attack. BR has to sort this out and find a decent balance. Real Madrid play offensive football under Ancelloti BUT are very difficult to score against. It has nothing to do w/ money or signings. It has to do with attitude and desire to protect your net IMO.

{Ed001's Note - sorry but you are talking crap. That is not what the style is about at all. It is individual errors that have been the main issues with goals conceded. That is not about abandoning the defence, that is about experienced pros being lazy and not closing down, like they are instructed to, or selling themselves with rash challenges, slipping at vital times, not making easy saves etc. Those will not change until we improve the quality of the players in the back line, at least two of the more experienced players, as they have shown throughout their career those same tendencies on a constant basis, year in and year out. No need to change the style, it worked well enough to have us punching massively above our weight. Now everyone wants to throw the baby out with the bath water!}

2.) Hi ed01,

I agree with you about the tendency for laziness and some players lacking the graft and quality to be consistent.

Glen Johnson for me is the main culprit as I have stated earlier (I'd be sure you agree, as you have good I judgement on many issues, but understand why you won't say so).

A bit harsh on redohio though, I reckon he largely agrees with you tbh, and I reckon he has a point saying we should have tightened up defensively at 3-up, instead we lost our way, stopped passing the ball and many of the players shirked responsibility.

I commented to the missus at 3-0 that we were playing a dangerous game, we seemed to think the game was over and we could stroll our way into scoring more. 'This could really backfire' I said.

I hear the term 'game management' used these days to describe tempering the attacking side of your game, and we must learn to be better at this. Particularly in Europe.

BR is a very young manager though, and I'm sure he'll be thinking the same today, but the future is bright. The title dream is still alive too.

We are not the finished article and we know it. An amazing accomplishment to finish 2nd or 3rd, particularly with a defence that can leak 2-3 goals in a game with a fair amount of regularity.

There will be 3 names in the envelope this summer.

I look forward to seeing what BR and the scouting team are planning.

A repeat performance of 3rd (or higher!) next year would signify a great year imo, and cement our progress a little. We don't want this to be seen as a flash in the pan.

One more game for us. Even if we don't win the league, it'd be lovely to finish on a positive note with a fine victory.

{Ed001's Note - I just think we should be admiring Brendan for sticking to his principles. It may not win everything, but I would rather that than suffer the dross that saw Jose lift the Champions League with Porto and Inter. It may not be everyone's view, but I will never subscribe to the win at all costs mentality. Nothing wrong with having principles.}

3.) ED, no need to be harsh. You actually aggree with me. Our players are lazy hence the phrase, "lack of desire to defend". I was not talking about syle. I love the way we play but I need to see that desire and will to defend when it is needed and its not just there and needs to be. All in all, we`re both in agreement.

{Ed001's Note - you clearly said BR played the style with a worrying reckless tendency, so I was far from being harsh, you were the one being harsh. Knee jerk reaction from you that you should be man enough to admit was a mistake.}




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20 Apr 2017 10:29:06
What a shame that that's the level of club he'll probably end up at. He should be in his prime right now. Wish he could've stayed fit for us.





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11 Jul 2016 13:09:38
Pogba is the player he is today because he was given a chance in the first team at juve, who were able to win leagues and reach champions league finals with him, rashford was arguably Uniteds most impressive player in the latter half of last season at 18 and can was probably one of our most consistent performers after klopp took over last year. You can either give these players a chance yourself or spend 100m on them when they reach their potential.