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15 Sep 2017 22:31:09
Is nathaniel clyne actually injured?


1.) 15 Sep 2017 23:05:15
Yeh he's got coutinhoitis.



04 Mar 2017 07:36:46
Any of our players attracting particular interest from other clubs at this moment? Thanks.


1.) 04 Mar 2017 12:39:40
Sakho was wanted by Sevilla and Southampton but we priced him out of a permanent move.

Lucas has always been wanted by Inter Milan. Probably still is.

West Ham are apparently keen on Sturridge.

PSG and Barcelona want Coutinho.

PSG are also credited with interest in Firmino and Lallana but that seems unsubstantiated at best and complete fairytale at worst!

Aside from that it is still unclear who might be going and where they will be going.

I don't think anyone in the squad except Mane, Matip, Wijnaldum and Henderson are guaranteed to be in our first choice starting XI next season. The next likely after that would be Firmino and Karius.

Some because we will want rid, some because we will replace them, and some because they will want out.

2.) 04 Mar 2017 13:43:37
Wijinaldum has done nothing to be a 'guaranteed first choice' player. He blows hot and cold all the time and rarely lifts himself against the smaller teams - he has a lot to prove.

3.) 04 Mar 2017 15:49:01
He was the same for Newcastle. Doubt he's going to change tbh.

4.) 04 Mar 2017 20:19:36
Done nothing except score crucial goals against Chelsea, Man City and now Arsenal! Not to mention his stunning performance against Spurs. He is our new Dutchman for the big occasions!

He is so under rated. I am torn between Gini and Mane as our player of the season so far. He was signed as a left attacking midfielder and put in a much deeper role by Klopp, yet he has adapted so quickly and seems to get better and better every week! I cannot express enough just how highly I rate him.

5.) 05 Mar 2017 04:10:31
As I said he doesn't turn up against the smaller teams - where was the energy and intensity and box-to-box runs vs Leicester? Or is all we crave now are players who'll turn up for a few big games and go missing in all the others? He has been wildly inconsistent this season and this past week of football illustrates that perfectly. Once again Adam you are wildly optimistic about just how good a player is - Wijinaldum our player of the season? Get a grip mate.

6.) 05 Mar 2017 05:17:07
Seano - no one in this team turns up every game. You need to reallywatch games again and put the outcome to the side in order to make a proper assessment. He is as energetic in losses as he was today. but we lost. that clouds all the judgement of him.

7.) 05 Mar 2017 08:19:33
In my opinion, nobody has consistently improved throughout the season more than Wijnaldum. And he is the least inconsistent of the whole bunch. His position depends entirely on the players around him. If they don't turn up for a game, then he can't be blamed for it. He's just another underappreciated player like Henderson. I really wonder what some of the others here, are looking at during games.

{Ed025's Note - wijnaldum is decent ra but he has to produce more often for me, the guy has a great engine but drifts in and out of games mate..

8.) 05 Mar 2017 13:44:26
I just realized that I am blind. Wijnaldum has been one of our most consistent performers. Neat on the ball, is tough, good movement, gets in the right positions, doesn't lose the ball and has a great engine. He does need to improve his final ball and scoring ability (I know he has scored some key goals but still) but that will come. He isn't flashy but efficient and effective. I can't believe people are talking negative about him. Who exactly in our midfield will you replace him with?

9.) 05 Mar 2017 18:18:43
Wijnaldum is 2 thirds into his first season with us so is just about settled in. I think he's done really well considering.

{Ed002's Note - What! A player settling in to Liverpool after only two-thirds of a season - surely not?}

10.) 05 Mar 2017 17:56:21
MK, sportsman bet, Wiji will not be a regular starter next season.

11.) 05 Mar 2017 18:40:11
I like him a lot and i think he will become a top player for Liverpool, much like Henderson is now.

12.) 05 Mar 2017 19:38:08
Exactly Faith in works. I think he is one of our most consistent players. The issue is that as a deeper midfielder he cannot influence the score line directly as often as he did at Newcastle.

His tracking of runners, tackling, passing, pressing, energy and movement is always there. He is one of the few intelligent players we have. He picks the right moments to go forward which is why he so rarely gets caught out of position. Against stronger sides when he can see nobody is getting into the box he makes the decision to break into the box and it has paid off for him.

Seano I think you're being way too harsh. Out of every player in our squad, Gini and Mane are the only guys who always put in a 7/ 10 performance or better. They never have a game where they are glaringly bad or massively at fault. Testimony to Klopp's vision that is, because most people thought they were dreadful signings 6 months ago.

I am not wildly over rating him anyway. I'm not sitting here saying he is world class or the best in the league etc. I am simply saying that in my opinion he has been one of our top performers. I am entitled to my opinion thank you very much. He is still new to the role, still about 3 years off peak age for a midfielder, and he shows desire to learn. I think he could be a bit more vocal but he is an all round great midfielder. He is good at everything and bad at nothing. He just needs to become great at a few things, continue this form in top European competition, and then he can take a step up to the next level and we can HOPEFULLY talk about him potentially being world class in a few years time.

13.) 06 Mar 2017 00:16:33
Mane has been player of the season, by a mile, he's an incredible and his pace and skill scare the opposition. Wijnaldum has pleasantly surprised me. Still think we need a bit more bite in midfield as I think we are too easily out muscled, but you can't knock Wijnaldums effort and commitment.

14.) 06 Mar 2017 21:53:23
Wijnaldum has pleasantly surprised me but as for player of the season? Not for me. Lallana has pleasantly surprised me, I wanted him gone last summer but he has made huge improvements but like Wijnaldum has blown far too hot and cold. Firmino or Mane for me, Mane the reasons are obvious but Firmino for his work rate. The high press would be a massive fail without him, his energy and leading the press from the front is fantastic. If only he would score a few more. I don't think Firmino is a striker though to be fair.

15.) 07 Mar 2017 12:51:40
Wiji has been solid rather than spectacular. or does he seem better than he is due to can being terrible this season.
Personally against the lesser side I'd like to see coutinho drop into midfield and control the game more.
Or go to either way we need pace on the left side.




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18 Aug 2017 21:30:44
Heard from someone itk that coutinho will stay. He'll apparently keep his head down, take us to within a few points of the title before biting an opponent at next summers world cup and promptly securing his dream move to arsenal.


1.) 18 Aug 2017 21:46:46

2.) 18 Aug 2017 21:50:24
Been saying it for several days- he's staying 👍.

3.) 18 Aug 2017 22:46:58
I can't see him going now either. Got to say though I'm disgusted with the way Barcelona have conducted themselves during the whole saga. We shouldn't have to put up with representatives of their club saying they are 'negotiating a deal' or 'close to a deal' when we have released a statement saying he won't be sold this summer. Whatever we did with VVD I know was wrong but we didn't do that. If that's not illegal it damn well should be they are an absolute disgrace, on and off the pitch at the moment.

4.) 18 Aug 2017 23:23:14
Ron, are you happy he seems to be staying? The other day you were adamant you wanted him gone?

5.) 18 Aug 2017 23:49:04
If he's committed to the team then I'm happy.
Don't want a sulk at the club though. We'll have to wait and see what happens.

6.) 19 Aug 2017 00:51:55
He won't sulk. Not the type. He's wanted this move for a long time but still conducted himself as a professional on the field. Loads of stuff has been said by his entourage, his agent, Barcelona and the media but he has stayed mostly out of it. I would even say he's been extremely clever and smart. Played his game behind the scenes and even made a transfer request (as a last ditch effort), but has now seen that the end game is not in his favor. There's a lot worse in life than getting paid 150,000 per week playing for LFC FC.



09 Jul 2017 20:13:03
Ed 002, would love to know a little about your career. Sounds like it's taken you all over the world. Is that purely within football or have you been involved in different industries before that?


{Ed002's Note - Gentleman adventurer and rodeo clown.}

1.) 09 Jul 2017 21:02:09
See a pic I posted of ed02 on the sightings page recently.

2.) 09 Jul 2017 21:08:26
Gentleman Adventurer is a superb job title.

3.) 09 Jul 2017 23:05:20
You rode some clown and had an adventure with some gentleman?
Sordid affairs of the eds.

4.) 09 Jul 2017 23:05:51
Was your job as a window cleaner on a submarine between them two Ed002?

{Ed002's Note - I still do "other" stuff as well.}



04 Jul 2017 07:27:03
I really don't get why we price our players the way we do. What kind of arrogance makes us think we can sell players we haven't played all season at huge prices. Can see sakho spending another season on loan or in the reserves.


1.) 04 Jul 2017 07:46:12
The same kind of arrogance that has led to bad blood between Liverpool and a few other clubs over tapping up I would imagine. The financial bubble football is in also means that clubs loose perspective on actual value of assets like players, summed up with balls out stupidity.

2.) 04 Jul 2017 10:29:45
Spot on, HBR. We act as if we are as successful as both Real Madrid and Barcelona who tap up players like no tmrw and when push comes to shove, they just pay the money and move on. We also try to ask for crazy fees for players other clubs know were on the transfer list and are not good enough, as if these other clubs don't know that these players are of very little value to us. We can't do any that and the hubris by which we act in the TW is shocking and flat out nonsensical. I suppose we won't learn until we get a transfer ban (regarding tapping up) and maybe only then, will things change.



22 Jun 2017 20:07:25
Can see firmino easily getting 20 goals in the league this season. He's getting better every year. If coutinho can stay fit, combined with mane and salah. We're going to score for fun all year.


1.) 22 Jun 2017 20:21:12
Hope so because he will be wearing #9 this year.

2.) 22 Jun 2017 20:44:58
20 league goals is a bit much I think. there's a possibility 20 goals all competitions.
I think we will be right up there for most goals next season.

3.) 22 Jun 2017 20:46:03
Nope, though a very good presser, he doesn't have the eye for goals as a top class striker.

The issue is we will never see two strikers under Klopp as mostly prefers Firminio style players than true out and out strikers.

That is what we have seen till now.


4.) 22 Jun 2017 21:16:08
Apart from when we played the Diamond formation at end of season Sami.

5.) 22 Jun 2017 22:54:04
The way we play lends to any of or attackers scoring. It's likely the goals will be spread out now we have so many players capable of hitting the net. Firmino is not that selfish type of striker heso a player equally capable of scoring wonder goals or tapping across to a teammate when he has a simple goal on himself.



21 Jun 2017 13:20:42
Dani Alves for a few years would be a brilliant signing. Still a good player and would be terrific for TAA to learn from without his path to 1st team being blocked. I know no interest and won't happen but would be sweet after we missed out on him from sevilla!


1.) 21 Jun 2017 13:51:00
Alves is winger who was never good enough to play on the wing. Just watch him in the Champions League final, he was often Juve's furthest player forward. He would be annihilated playing in the PL.

I'm not saying he isn't good at what he does but his pace is gone, he has never in his life actually had to do any defending and would want £200k a week.

I would rather play Milner at RB.

2.) 21 Jun 2017 14:07:31
He is signing for City!

3.) 21 Jun 2017 14:21:16
To say a player who just had his most effective season in a while, culminating in a champions league final appearance with one of the top teams in Europe, would get annihilated in the Prem is ridiculous. Klopp gets our fullbacks to play as wingers anyway so don't see the problem there either. Him in rotation with our brightest prospect TAA would be perfect.

4.) 21 Jun 2017 14:27:08
Agree with RedDawn. Playing with 3 world class centre backs makes him a force to be reckoned with. Anything less makes him a spectacular weak link that can and will be exploited.

5.) 21 Jun 2017 15:13:42
Playing 3 at the back leaves a gaping hole behind the wing backs, if anything makes the wingback have to act as both winger and right back.

6.) 21 Jun 2017 15:59:32
Never liked the bloke. Can be a very good player, but cheats, dives, whinges and cries to the ref incessantly. I would find it hard to like him even if he plays for my team.

7.) 21 Jun 2017 16:00:10
Dani Alves, as a footballer, is vastly underrated. And i say that knowing how highly many rate him. He's had a fantastic career and would walk straight into our first team. delusional if you think otherwise. Milner ahead of him? Please.




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27 Oct 2017 06:31:51
Come on now coutinho is not worth 1.5billion.




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20 Aug 2017 22:09:16
Obviously don't know what's gone on behind the scenes but don't really understand the lack of approach or leaving an approach to this late in the window when it's a player that klopp has seemingly wanted all window. Surely would have made more sense to put a bid on the table and open a dialog before the season started.




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13 Jun 2017 13:29:41
Why would we inform Hull that we wanted to buy their player? Surely sending an aeroplane with a wage offer on a trailing banner over robertsons house would be a more appropriate action?




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05 Jun 2017 18:18:08
If those figures are reasonably close then I think it's a brilliant deal. Expensive but so much better than what we already have and with scope for improvement at his age. Considering we should get a decent amount if we sell sakho and considering stones went for 50m last year,50 odd million seems par for the course for a good player in this summers market.




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03 Jun 2017 09:30:29
In my opinion it's very difficult to see ings having a Liverpool career now. As well as coming back from 2 seasons out, he'd have to force his way ahead of firmino, sturridge, origi and presumably solanke for our 1 striker position. I can see him going on loan when eventually fit.





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31 Oct 2017 13:37:24
Really good read that 👍.




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29 Oct 2017 11:26:05
Sign up ed 002 then. We can match your ambition.




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14 Oct 2017 13:34:35
Win the next 25 and we'd be favourites.




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24 Sep 2017 08:54:16
What I don't understand is why the people in the media don't seem to see how terrible he is. I just read a match report where he was given a 7 and they only really commented on his penalty save. Did they not see his perfect assist for the vardy goal?!




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03 Sep 2017 07:58:33
Not comparing him to coutinho.
Saying that while the fallout from the coutinho mess settles, stick this kid on the bench/ pitch instead of him. I've seen all the other kids you mentioned, wasn't impressed by any of them. Woodburn is different, the confidence and ability he has is so exciting.