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15 Sep 2017 22:31:09
Is nathaniel clyne actually injured?


1.) 15 Sep 2017 23:05:15
Yeh he's got coutinhoitis.



04 Mar 2017 07:36:46
Any of our players attracting particular interest from other clubs at this moment? Thanks.


1.) 04 Mar 2017 12:39:40
Sakho was wanted by Sevilla and Southampton but we priced him out of a permanent move.

Lucas has always been wanted by Inter Milan. Probably still is.

West Ham are apparently keen on Sturridge.

PSG and Barcelona want Coutinho.

PSG are also credited with interest in Firmino and Lallana but that seems unsubstantiated at best and complete fairytale at worst!

Aside from that it is still unclear who might be going and where they will be going.

I don't think anyone in the squad except Mane, Matip, Wijnaldum and Henderson are guaranteed to be in our first choice starting XI next season. The next likely after that would be Firmino and Karius.

Some because we will want rid, some because we will replace them, and some because they will want out.

2.) 04 Mar 2017 13:43:37
Wijinaldum has done nothing to be a 'guaranteed first choice' player. He blows hot and cold all the time and rarely lifts himself against the smaller teams - he has a lot to prove.

3.) 04 Mar 2017 15:49:01
He was the same for Newcastle. Doubt he's going to change tbh.

4.) 04 Mar 2017 20:19:36
Done nothing except score crucial goals against Chelsea, Man City and now Arsenal! Not to mention his stunning performance against Spurs. He is our new Dutchman for the big occasions!

He is so under rated. I am torn between Gini and Mane as our player of the season so far. He was signed as a left attacking midfielder and put in a much deeper role by Klopp, yet he has adapted so quickly and seems to get better and better every week! I cannot express enough just how highly I rate him.

5.) 05 Mar 2017 04:10:31
As I said he doesn't turn up against the smaller teams - where was the energy and intensity and box-to-box runs vs Leicester? Or is all we crave now are players who'll turn up for a few big games and go missing in all the others? He has been wildly inconsistent this season and this past week of football illustrates that perfectly. Once again Adam you are wildly optimistic about just how good a player is - Wijinaldum our player of the season? Get a grip mate.

6.) 05 Mar 2017 05:17:07
Seano - no one in this team turns up every game. You need to reallywatch games again and put the outcome to the side in order to make a proper assessment. He is as energetic in losses as he was today. but we lost. that clouds all the judgement of him.

7.) 05 Mar 2017 08:19:33
In my opinion, nobody has consistently improved throughout the season more than Wijnaldum. And he is the least inconsistent of the whole bunch. His position depends entirely on the players around him. If they don't turn up for a game, then he can't be blamed for it. He's just another underappreciated player like Henderson. I really wonder what some of the others here, are looking at during games.

{Ed025's Note - wijnaldum is decent ra but he has to produce more often for me, the guy has a great engine but drifts in and out of games mate..

8.) 05 Mar 2017 13:44:26
I just realized that I am blind. Wijnaldum has been one of our most consistent performers. Neat on the ball, is tough, good movement, gets in the right positions, doesn't lose the ball and has a great engine. He does need to improve his final ball and scoring ability (I know he has scored some key goals but still) but that will come. He isn't flashy but efficient and effective. I can't believe people are talking negative about him. Who exactly in our midfield will you replace him with?

9.) 05 Mar 2017 18:18:43
Wijnaldum is 2 thirds into his first season with us so is just about settled in. I think he's done really well considering.

{Ed002's Note - What! A player settling in to Liverpool after only two-thirds of a season - surely not?}

10.) 05 Mar 2017 17:56:21
MK, sportsman bet, Wiji will not be a regular starter next season.

11.) 05 Mar 2017 18:40:11
I like him a lot and i think he will become a top player for Liverpool, much like Henderson is now.

12.) 05 Mar 2017 19:38:08
Exactly Faith in works. I think he is one of our most consistent players. The issue is that as a deeper midfielder he cannot influence the score line directly as often as he did at Newcastle.

His tracking of runners, tackling, passing, pressing, energy and movement is always there. He is one of the few intelligent players we have. He picks the right moments to go forward which is why he so rarely gets caught out of position. Against stronger sides when he can see nobody is getting into the box he makes the decision to break into the box and it has paid off for him.

Seano I think you're being way too harsh. Out of every player in our squad, Gini and Mane are the only guys who always put in a 7/ 10 performance or better. They never have a game where they are glaringly bad or massively at fault. Testimony to Klopp's vision that is, because most people thought they were dreadful signings 6 months ago.

I am not wildly over rating him anyway. I'm not sitting here saying he is world class or the best in the league etc. I am simply saying that in my opinion he has been one of our top performers. I am entitled to my opinion thank you very much. He is still new to the role, still about 3 years off peak age for a midfielder, and he shows desire to learn. I think he could be a bit more vocal but he is an all round great midfielder. He is good at everything and bad at nothing. He just needs to become great at a few things, continue this form in top European competition, and then he can take a step up to the next level and we can HOPEFULLY talk about him potentially being world class in a few years time.

13.) 06 Mar 2017 00:16:33
Mane has been player of the season, by a mile, he's an incredible and his pace and skill scare the opposition. Wijnaldum has pleasantly surprised me. Still think we need a bit more bite in midfield as I think we are too easily out muscled, but you can't knock Wijnaldums effort and commitment.

14.) 06 Mar 2017 21:53:23
Wijnaldum has pleasantly surprised me but as for player of the season? Not for me. Lallana has pleasantly surprised me, I wanted him gone last summer but he has made huge improvements but like Wijnaldum has blown far too hot and cold. Firmino or Mane for me, Mane the reasons are obvious but Firmino for his work rate. The high press would be a massive fail without him, his energy and leading the press from the front is fantastic. If only he would score a few more. I don't think Firmino is a striker though to be fair.

15.) 07 Mar 2017 12:51:40
Wiji has been solid rather than spectacular. or does he seem better than he is due to can being terrible this season.
Personally against the lesser side I'd like to see coutinho drop into midfield and control the game more.
Or go to either way we need pace on the left side.




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17 Dec 2017 17:17:21
I think salah is having a goal of the season competition with himself.


1.) 17 Dec 2017 17:20:43
He's just incredible isn't he, he could've scored 2-3 already this half, hope the lad gets at least one more.

{Ed0333's Note - I would love him to eclipse Hannibal Lectors record

2.) 17 Dec 2017 17:28:06
Hahaha! Ed333 I think the way it's going mate he will do, fingers crossed!

{Ed0333's Note - my only fear is he’s skying a lot of chances when he drops a shoulder and goes on his left foot. He’s getting lots of oppurtiniries in that fashion but spurning a few much to my chagrin. Clearly I’m being over critical and I’m in the minority. 😀



07 Dec 2017 11:40:09
Keita scored a nice goal last night. When he comes which position is he most suited to in that midfield three we played last night. Wijnaldums position?


1.) 07 Dec 2017 12:09:54
I would think so, and it would be a very positive move, Wini, has so good moments, but has way too many safe sideways and back passes for me, Keita would drive us forward even more .

2.) 07 Dec 2017 12:13:34
I thought Can and Gini were in a double pivot. When one attacked, the other sat back and vice versa.

Considering Can is leaving next summer at the latest, I'd say Keita will likely take his place. Henderson, Gini, Milner (if he stays) and Keita would then compete for the 2 midfield positions.

The front 4 is more interesting though. Mane, Salah, Firmino, Lallana, Woodburn, Chamberlain and Solanke are the only guys you'd expect will still be here next season. Origi will probably sign for Wolfsburg, Coutinho for Barcelona, Brewster looks likely to go to Dortmund, plus Sturridge and/ or Ings will most likely want first team football. But looking at the options already at the club and not looking like going anywhere for at least another season, it's hard to see any major motivation to replace Coutinho. I suppose just to maintain the quality in depth of having 2 good players for all positions it would be good to get Lemar, Meyer, Brandt or Draxler. Coutinho is still a key player, attitude or not.

God knows what will happen at the back though 😂.

3.) 07 Dec 2017 13:05:09
Kieta as a holding mid would be one of the dumbest thing on the football pitch. He should play alongside either Can or a proper holding mid. That’s all! Your midfiled is sorted. Both Henderson and Wijnaldum can sit on the bench!

4.) 07 Dec 2017 18:06:49
Harry i don't know how many times you need to be told, but we don't play with a holding mid. I agree with you that we should. I'd personally shunt Milner out the door and go for N'Zonzi.

However, Klopp likes mobile midfielders capable of playing everywhere between the two penalty boxes. Keita, Gini, Hendo and Milner can all do that all day long. So unless Klopp has a change of heart, or Milner asks to leave for more first team football, i strongly expect that to be our midfield roster for next season.

Lallana, Woodburn and Chamberlain are all capable of playing in midfield if Klopp chooses to revert to the 4-3-3. You don't play a holding midfielder in a 4-4-2 though. You play two box to box players with a decent understanding so that one player is always sitting back while the other attacks. I expect the first choice pairing will be Keita and Henderson, with Gini taking Henderson's spot in European games to manage his heel injury.

I'm only making a prediction mate. It's not what i would do, just what i expect Klopp to do. He doesn't see the need for a defensive midfielder so we don't need to bring it up every other thread.

5.) 07 Dec 2017 20:38:17
Spot on, MK. Klopp no longer plays with a traditional DM like he once did with Kehl, and Bender at BVB (almost a decade ago) . He even played with Sahin, a brilliant DLP when they won the league and Sahin was player of the year.

As MK and Ed01 said, Klopp wants to play a double pivot of mobile players who can break up play, press and switch defence to attack, all in one go. You and I may disagree with that BUT that fact has not changed. There is a reason Naby is coming and the goal he scored in the CL proves why.

Klopp wants high energy, mobility and speed in CM. If for ex., we could get a double pivot in CM of Keita-Kante, then that would be the perfect blend, IMO for Klopp. Like it or not, that is the reality so bleating on and on about getting a traditional midfield on every thread, is just an exercise in futility.

6.) 07 Dec 2017 22:18:25
MKS - I would agree with most of what you have said. However given that Liverpool have already tried and failed to shift Sturridge and only sent Origi out on loan because they failed to get rid of Sturridge, I suspect that they will try again. So presuming they succeed then I would expect Origi to stay and Sturridge to leave.
Im also hoping they will manage to keep hold of Brewster and start giving him first team opportunities next year. But Dortmund do have the advantage of a more open path to the first team (assuming they get rid of Aubedingdong)



26 Nov 2017 10:11:50
What a player mo salah is. His hold up play is so good it's like having a target man up top.


1.) 26 Nov 2017 11:23:01
Magic Mo Salah is a joy to watch, it’s always nice watching a player in such good form and enjoying playing the game so much, even more so when he plays for us and is terrifying the opposition.

2.) 26 Nov 2017 12:31:02
I remember, a certain Ed here said in the beginning of the season that Salah is just a decent player and he should do just fine. I guess Salah is doing ok.

3.) 26 Nov 2017 13:41:00
Salah mane and firmino all hold the ball up well beyond their stature suggests, it's great to see flair players willing to put their body about.

4.) 26 Nov 2017 13:50:39
If he's a top player Klopp must not have been the one who got him in. apparently every top player he's ever signed was signed by someone else.

5.) 26 Nov 2017 14:30:39
Not surprised as Salah was already a beast at Roma and Spaletti is the one who gets the credit for building the Salah we all know and love today. Also, Salah per Roma fans, is like a sponge who takes in information and takes all the help he can get to improve so I think he will only get better. He is a now a wide man who can play out wide or behind the striker and as the CF itself cos his hold up play is something any CF would be proud of. Now did I think he would be tearing it up this early? No way and that is the only thing that surprises me right now. And the good thing is: The best is yet to come.

6.) 26 Nov 2017 14:44:24
they are calling the front three and Couts the Fab Four, maybe a reference to the Beatles .



18 Aug 2017 21:30:44
Heard from someone itk that coutinho will stay. He'll apparently keep his head down, take us to within a few points of the title before biting an opponent at next summers world cup and promptly securing his dream move to arsenal.


1.) 18 Aug 2017 21:46:46

2.) 18 Aug 2017 21:50:24
Been saying it for several days- he's staying 👍.

3.) 18 Aug 2017 22:46:58
I can't see him going now either. Got to say though I'm disgusted with the way Barcelona have conducted themselves during the whole saga. We shouldn't have to put up with representatives of their club saying they are 'negotiating a deal' or 'close to a deal' when we have released a statement saying he won't be sold this summer. Whatever we did with VVD I know was wrong but we didn't do that. If that's not illegal it damn well should be they are an absolute disgrace, on and off the pitch at the moment.

4.) 18 Aug 2017 23:23:14
Ron, are you happy he seems to be staying? The other day you were adamant you wanted him gone?

5.) 18 Aug 2017 23:49:04
If he's committed to the team then I'm happy.
Don't want a sulk at the club though. We'll have to wait and see what happens.

6.) 19 Aug 2017 00:51:55
He won't sulk. Not the type. He's wanted this move for a long time but still conducted himself as a professional on the field. Loads of stuff has been said by his entourage, his agent, Barcelona and the media but he has stayed mostly out of it. I would even say he's been extremely clever and smart. Played his game behind the scenes and even made a transfer request (as a last ditch effort), but has now seen that the end game is not in his favor. There's a lot worse in life than getting paid 150,000 per week playing for LFC FC.



09 Jul 2017 20:13:03
Ed 002, would love to know a little about your career. Sounds like it's taken you all over the world. Is that purely within football or have you been involved in different industries before that?


{Ed002's Note - Gentleman adventurer and rodeo clown.}

1.) 09 Jul 2017 21:02:09
See a pic I posted of ed02 on the sightings page recently.

2.) 09 Jul 2017 21:08:26
Gentleman Adventurer is a superb job title.

3.) 09 Jul 2017 23:05:20
You rode some clown and had an adventure with some gentleman?
Sordid affairs of the eds.

4.) 09 Jul 2017 23:05:51
Was your job as a window cleaner on a submarine between them two Ed002?

{Ed002's Note - I still do "other" stuff as well.}




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04 Mar 2018 19:46:27
Guys I think by homeless ed002 means having to crash at the ritz whilst the contractors re-marble the staircase in his Chelsea penthouse.




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03 Mar 2018 20:37:11
He seems to have lost that nervousness from his game. No messing about on the ball. Just needed a run in the team. Shame we had to put up with mignolet for so long this season.




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14 Jan 2018 12:57:49
A little birdie told me the same thing.




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01 Jan 2018 09:58:37
What injury does he have?


{Ed025's Note - lazyitis..



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21 Nov 2017 17:50:34
Is he? He played for Wales last week.


{Ed001's Note - did he? He has been suffering with injuries, I never checked to see if he is fit now or not, the club have certainly not mentioned he has returned to fitness. Hmmm that is not a good sign.}




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21 Apr 2018 18:56:52
What can you say about the guy. He's been scoring at a rate of almost 1 a game for the last few years at u23 level. Goes to a poor Hull side in a competitive and physical championship and just carries on. He's ready for senior football and I hope he gets a loan to Premier league side next year.




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13 Apr 2018 17:47:13
I like the ox. But has he really been that great for us? Obviously scored 2 good goals against city this year but I don't think he's been that brilliant over the season.




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09 Apr 2018 13:24:49
What an excellent write up. Loved the quotes at the beginning of each section.


{Ed001's Note - cheers mate glad you enjoyed. I have tons more quotes that were never used. I am sure they will come in handy as fillers when there is not enough news to fill up the Review of the Day in future though!}



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08 Apr 2018 22:15:47
Ox has those occasional excellent moments like in the city game and when he went on a run yesterday but he doesn't seem to consistently affect the game.




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01 Apr 2018 08:43:34
I don't get why people say just because there was contact it has to be a pen. Mane wasnt impeded in any way, after the contact which had no effect on what he was doing, he decided to throw himself to the ground. Surely its not illegal just to touch another player in the box?