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28 Aug 2017 01:01:25
Hi Eds

Are you guys still confident that we will bring in 2/ 3 people before the window shuts? .

Do you think loan deals could happen for Origi and Ings?

Thanks for all efforts during a very difficult window.

mfe

{Ed001's Note - yes and yes, it is likely one will go on loan, probably Origi as Ings is not really fit enough to play regularly yet.}


1.) 28 Aug 2017 04:55:48
I'm thinking a CB, CM and a wide player if Origi goes out on loan. And please sort out Can's contract now. I'd rather resign Carroll for 35 million again than lose Can for free.


2.) 28 Aug 2017 05:13:42
A loan for origi is what the lad needs as for ings he needs u23 games till xmas go get used to playing agin before I would even consider 1st team opportunities . Also I fear we may need the 3 mentioned positions above but would love the winger / wide player to be a young up and coming to learn from mane/ salah maybe a demerai gray?


3.) 28 Aug 2017 06:23:24
Or maybe a Woodburn or Kent. No point in sending out players on loan, if we plan on signing someone to replace them. We would need someone more of a complete product instead.


4.) 28 Aug 2017 08:17:07
In the red

I don't think the club know what position Woodburn is and Kent like salah would play right wing and cut in on left foot so the need for a right footed left winger as cover for mane is IMO needed for the squad not the finished article but someone who is able to grow and eventually push for that spot.


5.) 28 Aug 2017 08:17:38
Sorry I meant harry the red.


6.) 28 Aug 2017 09:01:06
Hi ed01,great result yesterday and great performance, enjoyed the match review, the obvious guys will get the deserved praise but special mention to Moreno, the guys received a lot of flak, a lot deserved, but he's put the head down worked hard and playing really well, fair play to the lad, and I hate international breaks😠,

A quick question ed do you expect the clubs stance on couts to remain til the end of the window, that's he's not for sale, cheers.

{Ed001's Note - publicly yes.}


7.) 28 Aug 2017 09:02:17
Hopefully yesterday put an end to us being interested in Oxlade Chamberlain, that is not a £35-40m player. Not fit to lace the boots of Mane or Salah.


8.) 28 Aug 2017 09:11:41
Publicly ed01? Have things changed behind closed doors?

{Ed001's Note - no.}


9.) 28 Aug 2017 09:16:11
Still think we should sell Coutinho if Barcelona offer enough money and a suitable replacement can be found. Having a player who refused to play for the club "at any cost" to force a move to Barcelona will have a negative impact on the squad. His team mates will know he is not dedicated to the squad, and it will simply create friction if Klopp throws him back into the first team at another player's expense.


10.) 28 Aug 2017 09:05:28
I agree DHFC, but it would hard to sign people who are on the cusp of breaking into the squad for a World Cup year. We are having a hard time convincing Can at the moment. Kemt and Woodburn could offer relief and rest during the early stages of the league and FA Cup or even into the latter stages. Origi could play out in the wings if necessary, but it appears he will be going out on loan. Btw Ed's, do you any of you know if suitors for him if he does go out on loan.

{Ed025's Note - accrington?..


11.) 28 Aug 2017 09:39:50
Who are they.


12.) 28 Aug 2017 09:35:09
I actually think Origi on loan could be good for all - think Solanke gets more game time (something I really want to see, he looks class) and hopefully Origi is a regular starter somewhere to continue his development. As it stands there's a risk neither get enough time on the pitch.

Worst case in event of injuries and us needing 4 strikers we have Mane who can play upfront or Ings once he's back up to fitness.


13.) 28 Aug 2017 11:03:03
AA Gent is interested to take Origi on a 6-month loan deal.


14.) 28 Aug 2017 11:26:53
Origi should be playing in one of the top 4 leagues.

{Ed025's Note - well accrington are in league 2 amerigo.. :)


15.) 28 Aug 2017 17:01:01
Good. Rooney can always go and play there.


 

 

 

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20 Jul 2017 17:08:04
Ed02

Question, you keep saying about Klopp using the press to unsettle players?

Any evidence of that at all?

The press seem to know who other clubs are after as well, have them clubs done the same?

Struggling to buy into what you are saying mate.

mfe

{Ed002's Note - Yes, Klopp briefed some members of the press aboiut for players in April - Sessegson, Brandt, Keita and van Dyke - with the intenstion is unsettling the players. This has all been done to death.}


1.) 20 Jul 2017 17:58:50
Well it didn't work anyway did it 😂😂

How many of those have we signed?

{Ed002's Note - That is not the point.}


2.) 20 Jul 2017 18:12:17
Regardless of whether they or not, it is illegal and we will get the book thrown at us if we do it again.


3.) 20 Jul 2017 18:17:01
See managers like Redknapp do that all the time. Also see Players like me Neymar do the same, Coutiniho in particular- it's swings n roundabouts.
Don't get the witch hunt for Klopp tbh.


4.) 20 Jul 2017 18:32:46
I agree with Max here, many managers sit in a press conference and say

'If Ronaldo was available we would love to have him'

'I think Mbappe is a very talented player that would fit into any team'

Klopp is far from alone in pushing the boundaries to make moves happen. Monaco have said as much today about teams approaching Mbappe. Klopp got burnt publicly is the only difference.


5.) 20 Jul 2017 18:45:38
I don't think Klopp told the press which players he wanted in April.

{Ed002's Note - Yes he did in a briefing to a number of folks from the press who are supportive of Liverpool.}


6.) 20 Jul 2017 18:47:55
There's a difference between saying in a press conference that you admire a player and briefing the press in private to release a story from an "anonymous source" at the club to say you're interested in a player.

One is honest, if not necessarily appropriate, the other isn't.

When you add it to meeting players illegally and discussing contract provisions and their role in the team with them before approaching their club, it's kind of a garbage thing to do.

Does that mean I want Klopp sacked? Or burned at the stake? No it most certainly doesn't. Not even close. I just want him to stop tapping players up and trying to unsettle them via the media. I get no one's an angel in football, but that doesn't mean we should unconcerned with how our club and staff behave.

And considering we have a partial transfer ban and other complaints made about us, we're clearly doing something that isn't being done by everyone.

{Ed002's Note - Right. It was a deliberate and unprofessional attempt by Klopp to unsettle players of another club - who he then made illegal approaches to.}


7.) 20 Jul 2017 18:45:38
I don't think Klopp told the press which players he wanted in April.

{Ed002's Note - Yes he did


8.) 20 Jul 2017 23:47:37
Klopp 's the man! Jose the very unspecial one - he's the unsavoury type of character that really ought rub folk up the wrong way. Well he does - those with intelligence, scruples and without the devil in them!


 

 

15 Jul 2017 14:41:46
ED02

Not really getting this to be honest. let's not be daft and keep spouting about the club not doing things right. The player will put in a transfer request as it appears he wants to move to Liverpool. LFC will then open negotiations with Southampton and deal will be done.

Football has no morals at the highest level, it is a very tickle and corrupt industry, look at FIFA for starters.

Need to get over this illegal approach mate.

mfe

{Ed002's Note - I am sorry but you have to be some sort of idiot. You clearly don't understand what Liverpool have been doing. Klopp briefed the press in order to unsettle players. Although no directly illegal, it is morally reprehensible and it damages players and other clubs. Klopp doesn't care even though it is, like him, thoroughly unprofessional. Klopp has continued (after two warnings last season) to make illegal approaches to at least three of the four players he was unsettling. This is completely unacceptable and when caught and a complaint made, yet again with their tails between their legs the owners issued a grovelling apology to try and avoid further action. That complaint is still on file - it has not been withdrawn. Liverpool are also serving a ban for screwing up the career of a 12 year old, lying to the authorities and fraudulently changing official documentation. The club are also facing a court case where something potentially show stopping could be presented as evidence. And you think this is all OK?}


1.) 15 Jul 2017 15:01:40
Ed 02. Little off topic but are you a fan of Klopp or have you not bought into him. Not a pop but very keen to hear your full opinion on him.

{Ed002's Note - Klopp is a decent coach but is not the best coach in the world as many here think. His behavior causes embarrassment to his club and continues to be inexcusable.}


2.) 15 Jul 2017 15:05:44
This is what pisses me off, you guys believe everything the EDS say, yet you don't believe them when they say things like this ^^
what we are doing as a club is incomprehensible. It's just wrong plain and simply wrong, there isn't any point in justifying our behavior, other clubs may be doing it (tapping up, not ruining people's lives) but we've been caught.
Either people don't want to accept that our club is acting pretty disrespectful and disgusting right now or they genuinely believe that what the eds are saying but don't believe it's that bad.
Get the rose tinted glasses off guys. It's bad.
It's embarrassing bad.


3.) 15 Jul 2017 15:08:07
Hi Ed002.

Completely agree with all your above remarks.
Not trying to excuse his recent actions just wondering if this is something that has only really happened since he arrived?

Understand if you would rather not say as it is a ongoing court case.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool got caught tapping up Clint Dempsey long before Klopp. An ex-captain of the club also went in to writing saying that he tapped up players on behalf of the club.}


4.) 15 Jul 2017 15:16:13
Thanks for reply.

Sounds like we are long over due some serious consequences of years of bad behaviour.


5.) 15 Jul 2017 15:25:24
What I don't understand is, are this type of approach really that unusual. Is it only Liverpool/ Klopp who does this? Don't get me wrong I don't approve it at all, but I don't see how a club in our position will be able to strengthen, if you can only approach players off contract, or the ones who's up for sale because their club don't rate them good enough to their squad. I mean we SHOULD be able to, but let's face it, the real good players don't prioritize Liverpool, unless we take matter in our own dirty hands. I know you don't agree Eds.

{Ed002's Note - Yes it is unusual. You cannot approach a player without the permission of his club. Others have done it and punished as well - most recently Everton in the Premier League. Barcelona has also been punished amongst others.}


6.) 15 Jul 2017 15:59:07
For heaven sake how many times do we need to talk about this! Seems every 4days or so we are talking about this tapping up and ed002 opinion of Klopp.


7.) 15 Jul 2017 16:02:55
Eds, this unprofessionalism is clearly something that plagued Liverpool over recent years. Is it something klopp has been guilty of himself in previous seasons too?

Appreciate all the hard work.

{Ed002's Note - Yes.}


8.) 15 Jul 2017 16:07:24
Cheers for the reply Ed 02.


9.) 15 Jul 2017 18:07:17
ED002 is extremely knowledgable and I respect his opinions but his constant bashing of Klopp is just getting tiring. We all know what it is. As a Liverpool fan I'd rather concentrate on debating transfers and the team itself.

{Ed002's Note - All I have done is answered the questions asked by Liverpool fans. If they don't like reading the answers, perhaps they should stop asking the questions.}


10.) 15 Jul 2017 18:24:03
Apologies Z99. You choosing to come onto the site and read our comments is our fault. Please let us know if there is anything else upsetting you.


11.) 15 Jul 2017 18:51:33
Oh god. Not this again. Just when you thought it was safe to go back on the site.


 

 

14 Jul 2017 10:56:47
Now I know from reading this site for a long time that the Ed's only deal with facts and do not get carried away at stories, twitter or any other sources.

I genuinely believe that Liverpool will sign both Keita and VVD, money does talk in football and Liverpool imo will pay enough to get the deals over the line. If RBL had not qualified for Champions League the deal would have been done already. Both players I think want to come to Liverpool, therefore if they pay enough it will happen.

A left back then added and it would have been one of our best transfer windows for a long time.

One thing I am surprised at is none of the Ed's seem to rate Klopp, correct me if I am wrong but I think he has done well in his short time, he has rejuvenated the Football Club with his passion and energy, I also think he has a very strong backroom which he has assembled. Let us not forget this is his only second full season in charge, last year they played some of the best attacking football I have seen for a long time, especially Aug - Dec.

If the window works out we could have a genuine chance of the title, supporters will get stressed with City signings but remember it is about assembling a team, something I think Klopp does well.

YNWA.

mfe

{Ed025's Note - im a massive fan mfe..


1.) 14 Jul 2017 11:33:52
I agree completely regarding Klopp. Best thing to happen to our football club in years. Has players and fans on his side and will deliver us back to where we belong. eventually.


2.) 14 Jul 2017 11:45:49
I want to put this in such a way that it doesn't sound too negative or disrespectful, I am aiming for factual qnd honest.
You say klopp has been fantastic, however what has he actually achieved. Rodgers at times played fantastic football, and whatever anyone thinks, when your team is doing well, the crowd are always more up for it.
You say it's only his second season, conte won the premier league in his, Jose won 3 trophies and was considered to have failed due to his poor league position, however we would have knighted Klopp had he achieved the same (myself inclused to be honest) .
Money has been available, we Havent spent it, we went in to last season with a smaller sized squad, a riak that paid off some might say wifh a decent league position at the end. But to be honest, I rather believe both arsenal and utd threw the 4th spot away, not saying we didn't deserve 4th, but I think can count ourselves fortunate to have achieved it.
The broken promises, the transfer Fiasco's, tapping players up etc etc hasn't painted mr klopp in the best way, and although not solely to blame I'm sure, is risking the future of the club in transfer market.
I do support the manager of course I do, but I do not see him as the messiah either.


3.) 14 Jul 2017 12:04:20
In Istanbul you must be one of the supporters who left at half time.


4.) 14 Jul 2017 12:34:18
Actually Dudley I'm one of them supporters who goes to the majority of matches.
Let me give you a great example of something that bugs me massively and is a good example of fickleness.
michael owen.
When I first started visiting anfield it seemed like we would always sing that song "michael owen scores a goal hallelujah ". Like Gerrard his performance or atleast goals won us the f. A. Cup against arsenal. All of this has been forgotten about because he signed foe man utd, which let's face it at the time was his best offer, and let's be honest most of us would have done the same. He's hated by a lot of fans, yet suarez is seen as a god, and torres also. MO was very successful at Liverpool football club and deserves a lot pf plaudits for his achievements but does not eeceive them. Rodgers came within a whisker of raising the EPL title, but is considered crap.


5.) 14 Jul 2017 12:39:32
There is a lot to admire about Klopp but we do tend to exaggerate what's happened since he got here. His one achievement is that he got us into the CL at second time of asking which was the minimum aim. If he brings in trophies over the next few years them he deserves all the accolades he gets but he hasn't earned them yet.


6.) 14 Jul 2017 14:20:01
Its a fair point.

But if you added up the money that Utd gave Jose to spend and along with Ibrahs wages, add that to what theve spent in the last few years.
then you get a slightly different picture.


7.) 14 Jul 2017 14:22:14
Istanbul, I don't agree with the part of "Arsenal and Utd threw 4th spot away" . That is false and unfair to Klopp and the players as NOTHING was given to them. No one saw us making CL footie last season and we were better than both teams (who spent much more than we did), scored more goals, had more points and were undefeated vs both teams (beating Arsenal twice and could have beaten Utd had the ref not missed a clear offside by Valencia) . We got what we deserved and credit should go to all concerned. Comparing him to Conte is pointless as he had a much better squad of players who had won the PL two seasons before and may have won it again but chose to use the season to get their manager sacked and take a season off.

Also, I don't think people are saying that he is the Messiah, per se. I think people are just relieved to see some progress and improvement in performances and results, those facts cannot be denied. Also, BR left us in dire straits when Klopp arrived and we were able to pick up the pieces in that season and got to two Cup finals and put ourselves back on the map in Europe again. Now did we win them? No and that is disappointing but one cannot deny that we are a much better team now than when BR rightfully got sacked.

Now is Klopp infallible? No and I am actually worried about some of his mistakes are becoming a huge problem BUT there are inherent problems with our club that pre-date Klopp and he can't fix everything at once. He needs to adapt and learn to think before he speaks but all in all, he has been very good for us. Improvement is indeed needed regardless tho.


8.) 14 Jul 2017 14:25:52
Jose has won 3 in his debute season while Klopp bottled 2 finals! Conte won the PL title in his first season.
Fact! Like it or not!


9.) 14 Jul 2017 15:11:36
I wasn't comparing managers tbh, just pointing out the obvious in what they had achieved and how they were being portrayed.
Like I said I didn't want to be negative, however some peoole are are blinded. Finishing 4th was great, as I pointed out, and to say utd and arsenal didn't lose points stupidly is completely untrue, because they did, and money has nothing to do with it. You could eadily say we threw points away and perhaps deserved/ could have had more. But what happened happened and that's how it goes sometimes. to point out we were unbeaten vs the top 6 sides is irrelevant, there are 19 teams to compete against, to be successful you need to beat them all I'm afraid (or u get what I mean) .
I'm not anti klopp, might sound it but I'm not. I also won't lie, he certainly isn't my preference but I'll support him and more importantly Liverpool always.
No idea why people feel the need to get so aggressive on this site, especially when people are talking facts.


10.) 14 Jul 2017 21:29:48
The standard of squad that Fergie took over at Utd is nearer to what Klopp inherited at Liverpool.

It took him 5 seasons.

Jose inherited a squad 2nd to none and had his choice of any players in the world.

Big difference.
Look at Pep as well.


 

 

13 Jul 2017 09:27:35
Hi Eds

I now see that a South African Lawyer who has been involved in football transfer has now come out and said that we are in negotiations with Southampton for VVD in a official capacity this time!

Heard anything?

mfe

{Ed002's Note - No, Southampton are in Austria trying to patch up the damage done to the player by Liverpool's illegal approach.}


1.) 13 Jul 2017 10:33:42
Seems like a long way to go just to patch up the damage done by Liverpool. Surely they've gone there to at least do some pre-season training as well. lol.


2.) 13 Jul 2017 11:27:21
😂😂😂.


3.) 13 Jul 2017 12:03:32
Is this for the player that approached us because he wanted to leave? (Before we knew anything)

{Ed025's Note - your right jezza liverpool are totally blameless and should be applauded..southampton should now give him to liverpool for free just to show the world you do things right..


4.) 13 Jul 2017 14:31:06
Give me strength.


5.) 13 Jul 2017 11:38:46
South African lawyers eh ed002 😉.


6.) 13 Jul 2017 14:30:59
I never thought I'd read so much sense, and from an Everton fan of all things!

Ed025, I applaud you sir. You appear to be the only one who can see the truth of the VVD saga and have proposed the only course of action to resolve it. Ed002 could learn a thing or two from you!


 

 

12 Jul 2017 21:44:56
Keita is very close to being done, reports now coming out.

mfe

 

 

 

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08 Sep 2017 11:09:23
You never miss a chance do you ED02, unbelievable.

The defence is nowhere near as bad as you make out and Klopp is a better manager than you think! .

Give him some credit and you need to have a certain level of arrogance about you these days dealing with these rich kids.

It was also nice to see him doing a mobile video message which was sent to a poorly child who supports Everton, that was certainly not arrogant Ed02.!

I, like plenty of Liverpool fans actually think Klopp is a good Manager, I have a feeling he will catch you out making you look a little silly with your negativity re Klopp.

mfe

{Ed002's Note - If Liverpool are going to be using different goalkeepers in each competition then it smacks of extreme stupidity from someone who has also named Adam Bogdam in the squad. It is laughable and you simply can't see it. And can you point me at these posts where I have made out the defence to be bad? Or are you simply lying? To date Klopp has done nothing at Liverpool. He has won nothing, and he won nothing for years before he came. I have never denied that Klopp is a "good" manager - but that is all he is. Perhaps you should have a reality check about the success Liverpool has had under Klopp - it is zero - zilch. And if you don't think he needs any assistance with the coaching of the defence then let's hope he doesn't get it.

You might want to have someone read you the definition of "arrogant" as well.}


 

 

 

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31 Aug 2017 11:13:43
Southampton are being absolutely daft now and letting emotions overrule a simple business decision.

Crazy from them.

They will be left with a highly frustrated player, they need to use their brains.

mfe

 

 

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29 Aug 2017 03:36:57
ED02

You are off your trolley mate if you don't think Klopp is better than BR.

You seem a bright person so am puzzled at why you keep having a go at every opportunity with Klopp.

Please explain

Thanks.

mfe

{Ed002's Note - I didn't say that - why don't you find someone to read the post to you.}


 

 

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27 Aug 2017 21:09:08
Idiotic replies from a bunch of so called Liverpool supporters.

We are a hell of a good team.

mfe

 

 

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25 Aug 2017 15:31:24
Ed25. 8 new players, a slight exaggeration! LOL.

mfe

{Ed025's Note - a keeper and back 4 are 5 of them mfe..


 

 

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25 Aug 2017 15:04:31
I have a real problem with people doubting Klopp. He has got us into the Chanpions League, nett spend is minimal and people are moaning.

Yes defence is poor but attack is bloody brilliant, midfield is pretty good as well.

1 defender and 1 midfielder in and we can win the league. Fed up to the back teeth of some supporters on here, you do not have to agree with ED02 you know!

Klopp is the best man for the job.

mfe

{Ed025's Note - get real mate, to win the league you need 8 new players..


 

 





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