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11 Apr 2017 16:49:46
On the BBC sports website : Dele Alli and Eric Dier spotted in Liverpool.

Please oh please tell me he's reconsidered that 5mln contract offer! And Diers coming along too to keep him company.


1.) 11 Apr 2017 19:56:49
Moons made of cheese as well.

2.) 11 Apr 2017 20:38:51
Dier wudnt get on in front of Emre 😎.

3.) 11 Apr 2017 21:14:18
They were here for a night out with Barkley.

4.) 12 Apr 2017 11:23:30
Too bad they didn't provide better cover for Barkley!

5.) 12 Apr 2017 13:21:34
Moon cheese is delectable.

6.) 12 Apr 2017 15:45:06
Knockout evening I heard.



01 May 2015 16:44:42
Call me ignorant but I don't call Cheryshev a Marquee signing and have no idea why we'd spend another 18mln on a young winger when we have Ibe, Markovic, Sterling and Ojo, Wilson, Kent and others in youth setup. Depay on the other hand would really improve the team and can play backup/second striker and I would call Marquee.

Eds, are we really looking at Cheryshev please or just someone trying to talk up his value?


{Ed002's Note - Real Madrid have had a few approaches from clubs interested interested in taking winger Denis Cheryshev on loan or permanently this summer with Kuban Krasnodar and Real Sociedad both requesting a price. Previous interest from Everton went with David Moyes. Zenit and Metalist Kharkiv dropped whatever interest they had. As for Liverpool, he may well be an option to replace Raheem Sterling if he were to leave, but I am certain there has been no bid at this time. }

1.) 01 May 2015 23:31:27
Thanks, think it's the last thing we need, doesn't fill a critical gap and another unproven youngster.

2.) 03 May 2015 04:15:02
BR is the same guy who says he is building a squad withe money he blows, then says we need marquee players then, he is interested in this Russian kid who is NOT a marquee signing. Moral of the story? If a man talks too much, he lies a lot. He talks so much that he doesn't remember what he actually hence, sounds dumb.



05 Jan 2015 13:53:49
Hi eds, if we lose Lucas and Gerard over the summer, what's the long term plan in centre midfield? Can and Henderson would make sense and perhaps llalana or Coutinho in if we play three? Any idea what BR's plans are for Allen?



{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what the plans are for Allen but Liverpool have a lot of midfield players already. Much will depend on what happens management wise.}

1.) 05 Jan 2015 14:24:15
A fairly well balanced midfield three would be Henderson, Lallana and Can, with a front three of Coutinho, Sterling and Sturridge.

2.) Agree 100%, would like ideally to see a strong DM option (or keep Lucas) to sub in as required. Lucas, Can and Hendo would be a great defensive three while Can, Hendo and Llalana a great balanced/attacking midfield.

{Ed002's Note - Folks need to stop listing players/teams here otherwise the thread will be deleted.}

3.) To the original post I can only hope Allen moves on. Watching many games this season, he lacks pace tracking back, lacks strength. For a passing possession player he seems to lose the ball often and I can't recall him making a forward pass over 6yrds? I also can't recall a single assist?

Seems like a nice bloke but purely football he is nowhere good enough. Wouldn't expect a fee of over £5m either, a complete waste of funds. Depending on how Balotelli turns out, Allen is for me our worst ever purchase

4.) 05 Jan 2015 18:05:33
agreed! allen is a shocking player.

5.) 05 Jan 2015 22:41:29
I still think the best midfield displays I've seen in Rodgers time were two games we lost last season- Man City and Chelsea over the festive period. Our midfield was Lucas, Allen & Henderson. Those three completely shut down City & Chelsea's midfield with the combined pressing of Henderson & Allen and Lucas sitting behind and reading the game.


6.) 08 Jan 2015 00:16:03
Hi guys, I work for a football stats company and can tell you that Allen has both a deceptively high pass completion rate for a midfielder over the last two seasons (87.09%), and also has won more duels than Gerrard. He gets bashed more than he should




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06 Jun 2017 01:50:41
Talking about the fullbacks, it does seem a little strange everyone (including myself) has been critical of Clynes end product and aerial ability in defence, yet were all hoping for a new LB (including myself) when Milner has done a very good job there.

From my perspective I'm hoping a new LB creates the left footed attack that would give us the ability to whip in dangerous crosses and get behind defences on the left (and stop Milner from always having to cut inside - a particular problem because Coutinho plays exactly the same way), and then we can move Milner over to RB ahead of Clyne.

Is everyone else thinking the same?

Also worth noting however that if we do end up getting Salah, who is left footed and a winger, Milner at LB becomes less of an issue IMO. If we play Salah on the left side to create pace and width (as opposed to Coutinho who was more of an inside forward) then the dynamic would change quite a bit and there is less urgency to bring in a left footed LB unless we can find the right one. Clyne has to be changed regardless though.


1.) 06 Jun 2017 02:34:28
yup. for me, we are missing genuine pace down the left flank as well. I can't remember which game now, but it was one of the latter games of the season where moreno came on and was able to get behind the defensive line purely down to his pace. But the other key factor that changes when you have genuine pace down the wings is the midfielders start to look for that run, the kind of run where all the midfielder has to do is split the CB and fullback and then you're of. it is something that City do expertly with the pace they have coming from their wingers on both sides.

2.) 06 Jun 2017 03:27:25
I think it would be best to buy a left winger because there aren't many available that are more composed on the ball than Milner. Ideally we would prefer an upgrade on Moreno that's reasonably priced and somewhat young. Robertson has less upside than Sessegnon but he would be ready now rather than someone unproven in the prem. Really like the look of Solanke and don't think we need an investment at striker now. Salah is also a tasty option. If we can finalize business there and purchase a centerback I think we have a squad that can challenge for the title.

3.) 06 Jun 2017 04:04:52
Milner did an okay job far from very good. Not only going forward. He was hopeless in defending for quite a few times especially against pacy wingers. I think it should be top priority to replace both LB and RB.

4.) 06 Jun 2017 04:05:16
It would still be a short term fix imo. Shifting milner to right won't solve the puzzle. We blindly believe he would all of a sudden start crossing better but the reality is he is very poor. He takes all the corners with his right foot and they are terrible.
We need two new full backs. Let's not do the same mistake over and over again ( shifting players out of position ) .
Just coz someone works hard doesn't become good full back!

5.) 06 Jun 2017 04:08:24
Good point.
In an ideal world, I would love to have 2 new full backs.
One in each flank.
It is a pity that Moreno doesn't work out, Clyne not the kinds of full back we need, and Milner has his shortcoming.
And TAA in my opinion is also not quite there yet.
I would probably sell Clyne and Moreno, with Milner and TAA as back up.

P. S. thought Moreno should have been more a chance against the lesser team, ahead of Milner, and see if that's what we need, that is speed, a bit more skill going forward and ability to go to the byline and cutback or crosses. Now we never know.

6.) 06 Jun 2017 05:01:23
SC - was really basing that on the period where Milner played on the right under Rodgers. his delivery from the right was excellent and instrumental in a number of goals (albeit we had Benteke in the box) .

I think he's far better crossing from the right when he's on the move (and got runners to hit, and space to aim at between defence and GK) than at set pieces which is a very different skill.

Defensively I think he's learnt a lot since he started at LB and would be sound. and a perfect option as a more mature player to bring TAA through underneath.

7.) 06 Jun 2017 09:08:12
I agree with Zimbo, Milner's in-play crossing is far better than his set-piece delivery, and can see him delivering wicked balls across the 6 yards box for onrushers. Plus, it's important we don't stifle TAA's chances.



01 Jun 2017 11:14:14
Does the transfer window ever remind anyone of a drum full of water. drop in the slightest pebble and the ripples spread out of control, and then just when you think they've died down, an echo returns to kick things off all over again.


1.) 01 Jun 2017 12:22:29
Actually it reminds me of a bucket full of crabs, all in a mad frenzy, trying to climb over each other and out of the bucket, and into another one. (One man's zen is another man's complete chaos ;-) ) .

{Ed025's Note - talking of you think clyne, lovren and klavan will stay?.. :)

2.) 01 Jun 2017 13:12:02
I wouldn't mind if Clyne and Klavan left, as long as they were replaced with better players, Ed025. I don't quite share most people's misgivings about Lovren, though. Sure, he has his howlers and bad days but I don't think he is as bad as all that. It's all quite relative. Coutinho misses a sitter in front of goal and it's brushed off. Lovren misses a clearance in front of goal and it's the headline the next day. Let's see if the new contract raises his confidence levels and he has a better season in 17/ 18.

{Ed025's Note - well it will certainly raise his bank balance ra..

3.) 01 Jun 2017 13:47:46
I also don't mind Lovren with Matip but worry more about Klavan and Gomez if either get injured.

4.) 03 Jun 2017 20:29:17
What are you on about re lovren? Take time next season to just watch him, he's truly shocking, charging out from the back to win a header (and failing) near the centre circle leaving a gaping chasm in the centre of the defence, ball watching constantly getting caught the wrong side constantly, I'd rather have skrtel back and that's saying something.



21 May 2017 18:14:34
Eds, curious what you think of Josh King. haven't watched too much of Bournemouth but every time I've seen him I've been impressed. Do you think he has it in him to make it at a side like Liverpool?


{Ed002's Note - Liverpool has no interest in him.}

1.) 21 May 2017 22:19:09
He's certainly stepped it up this year Zimbo, his form is no coincidence and I think he'd be an asset for most of the top teams.

{Ed025's Note - i like him as well HX..

2.) 22 May 2017 11:06:50
Not a bad player and can still improve.



21 May 2017 17:29:29
Well done lads - fantastic result and although I had faith we'd go out and do it, the conviction we showed in the last two games proved we deserved it.

The project continues and looking forward to next season.




15 May 2017 11:36:03
A few thoughts from the match

- we all wondered what Klopp would do to inject energy and attacking threat. bringing on Llalana and Sturridge and dropping Coutinho deeper were fairly predictable but changing to the diamond was a brilliant move (even if in response to Firmino injury) . seems obvious in hindsight but it played to our strengths in terms of having playmakers and strikers to take the game to them through the middle (but limited wingers)

- The system completely threw West Ham off - space all over the park. witness their CB moving forward to shut down Llalana which created the space for Sturridge's run the first goal

- I've also always thought Sturridge plays better with a strike partner as it makes the most of his movement while still leaving a threat in the box. He was involved in almost everything good we did going forward. well played lad and great to see you smile!

- Thought Coutinho bossed it in midfield, MOM for me. Again been discussing it before but he should be playing there every week. His vision to dictate the direction and pace of the attack before the defense can get set is critical, and also he draws defenses out which creates space for others. That ball to Sturridge was pure class.

- Can again proved himself very capable running the game from deep - easily overlooked but he shut down a lot of dangerous moves and forced them backwards on a number of occasions

- Our defense was better but we also got lucky a couple of times with Ayew having a corner somehow drop into his lap and Milner having to cover two runners due to mixups with the CB and thankfully just doing enough to put Byram off. work to do still even though a good day out

Overall Kudos to Klopp for having the balls to make the changes and for the players who all stood up to be counted so emphatically when many were writing them off. One more big win please lads and CL here we come!


1.) 15 May 2017 15:34:52
I think that part of Klopps thinking is that each player in the team has an attacking value for when we have possession, and a defensive value for when we are not in possession.

While Sturridges attacking value may be 78% his defensive value may be 22%.
Whereas Firminio would have attack 69% and defensive 48% which adds a lot to the all round game but would not be as clinical at finishing as Sturridge.

The opposite of this would apply to defenders. Where the higher value would be on the defensive side.

2.) 15 May 2017 15:35:01
Spot on, Zimbo. Make no mistake, our boys were under a lot of pressuer going into that game and even our own fans thought we would bottle it but the manager and the players stood up, showed professionalism and got it done. Another thing many may have missed was that unlike Spurs who tried to win the game in the first 20 mins, we did not panic at any time in our build up play.

We passed it around in a bid to move WH around, create space for our attackers to run into and to create overloads on their weak sides to play through and the goals came. In fact had we won the game 7-2, it would have been a fair result cos Adrian was working overtime just to keep us out and we hit the post three times. Great approach from Klopp and the team. On to Boro to finish the job.




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28 Jun 2017 18:17:10
Hope you're right Alan. VVD, Keita and Cresswell would be a cracking way to close out the window!




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28 Jun 2017 05:51:50
I hope he's more likely to play on the wing if he comes in - we don't have as many natural wide options and we already have Coutinho, Llalana, Gini and Grujic in attacking midfield.

Ejaria I suspect is a couple of years away but Grujic should be getting regular game time IMO.




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23 Jun 2017 16:10:30
Haha mate, I assume you're referring to me finally spelling Lallana right!




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23 Jun 2017 15:23:42
Pros : we have great forwards now with Mane, Firmino, Salah likely starters, but our imoact subs are Sturridge, Origi, Ings, Solanke. all strikers. The only natural wingers we could bring on (assuming Coutinho plays midfield) are Ojo, Woodburn and Wilson who are all more prospects rather than proven yet

Cons : Ox is hardly a game-changer, should we really be paying that much for someone when we can easily play Origi, Coutinho, Lallana, Firmino or even Solanke out wide, and then we also end up blocking Ojo and Wilson/ Woodburn from getting game time and developing.

Overall I would rather we focussed on fixing LB and CB.




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21 Jun 2017 15:47:23
I heard he'll make a great skipper one day.





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29 Jun 2017 06:14:08
The designer of the US flag was 17 at the time and he did it for a school project. He got a B-.




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29 Jun 2017 06:08:59
I'm waiting for him to reply 'Yes'




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28 Jun 2017 15:11:18
Hector would be great - with Salah and Mane on the wings the pressure to buy an attacking fullback is less urgent IMO (witness how much we created from the right with Mane there, despite Clyne) and I think having someone like Hector who's solid defensively would really help out the CBs, and he's no slouch going forward either.




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27 Jun 2017 04:14:48
The problem is 3-4-3 relies on strong CBs and good attacking wing backs and neither of those are our particular strengths. Would only really make sense IMO if we signed a top CB and then Mendy for the LWB position.

I think the real choice should be between whether we play 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1, and then whether
1) we give our CBs support through the fullbacks sitting deeper (allowing midfield to push forward and the wingers creating the width upfront) or
2) allow the fullbacks to push forward and use a deep midfielder (or two) to provide cover

Part of our problem last season was we pushed both midfield and fullbacks forward at times and got caught on the break. by the end of the season though we had more balance and players were figuring out how to switch up the attack without all pouring forward at once and leaving the defence exposed.

Personally given the lack of attacking talent we currently have at FB and the relative strengths of our midfield and wingers, I'd hope we play 4-3-3.




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25 Jun 2017 08:47:38
I suspect if we're going for him it'll be as a winger rather than midfield but let's see. also suspect it'll mean a loan for at least Ings.