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11 Apr 2017 16:49:46
On the BBC sports website : Dele Alli and Eric Dier spotted in Liverpool.

Please oh please tell me he's reconsidered that 5mln contract offer! And Diers coming along too to keep him company.


1.) 11 Apr 2017 19:56:49
Moons made of cheese as well.

2.) 11 Apr 2017 20:38:51
Dier wudnt get on in front of Emre 😎.

3.) 11 Apr 2017 21:14:18
They were here for a night out with Barkley.

4.) 12 Apr 2017 11:23:30
Too bad they didn't provide better cover for Barkley!

5.) 12 Apr 2017 13:21:34
Moon cheese is delectable.

6.) 12 Apr 2017 15:45:06
Knockout evening I heard.



01 May 2015 16:44:42
Call me ignorant but I don't call Cheryshev a Marquee signing and have no idea why we'd spend another 18mln on a young winger when we have Ibe, Markovic, Sterling and Ojo, Wilson, Kent and others in youth setup. Depay on the other hand would really improve the team and can play backup/second striker and I would call Marquee.

Eds, are we really looking at Cheryshev please or just someone trying to talk up his value?


{Ed002's Note - Real Madrid have had a few approaches from clubs interested interested in taking winger Denis Cheryshev on loan or permanently this summer with Kuban Krasnodar and Real Sociedad both requesting a price. Previous interest from Everton went with David Moyes. Zenit and Metalist Kharkiv dropped whatever interest they had. As for Liverpool, he may well be an option to replace Raheem Sterling if he were to leave, but I am certain there has been no bid at this time. }

1.) 01 May 2015 23:31:27
Thanks, think it's the last thing we need, doesn't fill a critical gap and another unproven youngster.

2.) 03 May 2015 04:15:02
BR is the same guy who says he is building a squad withe money he blows, then says we need marquee players then, he is interested in this Russian kid who is NOT a marquee signing. Moral of the story? If a man talks too much, he lies a lot. He talks so much that he doesn't remember what he actually hence, sounds dumb.



05 Jan 2015 13:53:49
Hi eds, if we lose Lucas and Gerard over the summer, what's the long term plan in centre midfield? Can and Henderson would make sense and perhaps llalana or Coutinho in if we play three? Any idea what BR's plans are for Allen?



{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what the plans are for Allen but Liverpool have a lot of midfield players already. Much will depend on what happens management wise.}

1.) 05 Jan 2015 14:24:15
A fairly well balanced midfield three would be Henderson, Lallana and Can, with a front three of Coutinho, Sterling and Sturridge.

2.) Agree 100%, would like ideally to see a strong DM option (or keep Lucas) to sub in as required. Lucas, Can and Hendo would be a great defensive three while Can, Hendo and Llalana a great balanced/attacking midfield.

{Ed002's Note - Folks need to stop listing players/teams here otherwise the thread will be deleted.}

3.) To the original post I can only hope Allen moves on. Watching many games this season, he lacks pace tracking back, lacks strength. For a passing possession player he seems to lose the ball often and I can't recall him making a forward pass over 6yrds? I also can't recall a single assist?

Seems like a nice bloke but purely football he is nowhere good enough. Wouldn't expect a fee of over £5m either, a complete waste of funds. Depending on how Balotelli turns out, Allen is for me our worst ever purchase

4.) 05 Jan 2015 18:05:33
agreed! allen is a shocking player.

5.) 05 Jan 2015 22:41:29
I still think the best midfield displays I've seen in Rodgers time were two games we lost last season- Man City and Chelsea over the festive period. Our midfield was Lucas, Allen & Henderson. Those three completely shut down City & Chelsea's midfield with the combined pressing of Henderson & Allen and Lucas sitting behind and reading the game.


6.) 08 Jan 2015 00:16:03
Hi guys, I work for a football stats company and can tell you that Allen has both a deceptively high pass completion rate for a midfielder over the last two seasons (87.09%), and also has won more duels than Gerrard. He gets bashed more than he should




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13 Aug 2017 02:46:21
Guys, we can talk all we like about defensive setups (and I agree with that point) but I'm pretty sure no-one ever decided in training Firmino should cover the most dangerous area of the box on his own.

No other team in the PL would have left that ball to Firmino without a CB or GK attacking it and this is where leadership in the defence comes into play. Also if you look at our side, Moreno, Clyne, Gini are all poor defensively in the air (how many times has Gini knocked the ball randomly backwards in the box last season? ) and I'm not convinced Lovren is that dominant either.

We should absolutely not be starting the season with a back 5 including Migs, Lovren and Moreno who are all prone to panic and mistakes, so system and training aside we just have to tighten the defence through bringing in some real competition at CB who can provide some leadership, and then put Milner back at LB until Robertson is ready. I still think we need another FB myself.


1.) 13 Aug 2017 04:41:13
Moreno had a decent game imo (at least he was not directly at fault for any of the goals, which is an improvement on previous seasons for him) . One of our Cbs needs to start being vocal and tell team mates to get into position. Thought Matip would be the answer but clearly I was wrong about him.

2.) 13 Aug 2017 05:49:25
Moreno played above his usual standards, but his ball control and passing is still awful.
Our defence is just a shambles, from top to bottom. TAA is the only one who should be in our plans to go on from here.

3.) 13 Aug 2017 07:51:07
Music to my ears, OP. I have posted the same thing multiple times since the game regarding Bobbie's position. Even amateur teams don't set up that way as every man and his dog knows CF's are poor defenders at set pieces so that is where the setup is wrong. Also, no one recognized that and said, "that is not right. Switch with me" Hence, a lack of leadership and a vocal voice. Our boys are not the best defensively BUT they kept 4 clean sheets in the last 6 games to get us top 4 so I know they can do better. However, I expect them to at least compete for balls in the air as a header is only won by the player with the most determination to win it. Our boys don't even jump and compete, which is even worse. We have to sort that out. Don't know if VVD is the answer cos if he was there yesterday, the goal would still happen cos he would be in the same position our CB's were in.



12 Aug 2017 17:28:48
Clearly our back 5 is unacceptable for a side that plans on challenging for the title.

Migs has done OK of late but still makes me worry - he should have come for the first corner and lacked conviction in controlling his area. For me he is fine to start but only behind a well organised defence as he's not vocal enough and lacks confidence.

TAA wasn't great today but I don't mind that too much - they guy is young and deserves patience and the chance to make the odd mistake.

Matip is hit and miss for me. Still the best in the air in our back 5, but think he needs to be with an experienced partner as he's not a leader in defence, and needs someone to direct his play.

Lovren - sorry but although he does some decent defending sometimes, he's so prone to panic and the occasional mistake I just don't get it. Not physically dominant or good enough in the air.

Moreno - seriously, did we all think one game meant he's now a world beater? Still prone to poor decisions and rash challenges like in the buildup to the second goal.

In short, two players prone to panic and mistakes, two that lack a vocal leadership style that's so critical in defence, and a teenager.

Klopp please fix CB first and then let's end the Moreno experiment once and for all please. With TAA on the right in particular we need a solid defensive option on the left.


1.) 12 Aug 2017 17:41:48
It's clearly not just the back 5 at fault. When the majority of your goals are the result of a set piece, the responsibility falls on more than just your back line.

2.) 12 Aug 2017 17:48:59
I think we can get better players but I'm with Carra, it's more the coaching, system and tactics.

Set pieces, Firminho in the 6 yard box in the middle! Really!

3.) 12 Aug 2017 20:25:07
Spot on, Statto. Who's dumb idea was it to put Firmino in the 6 yard box, anyway? And we are surprised that we leak goals from set pieces. VVD or Maldini won't help you there in that setup, clearly.

4.) 13 Aug 2017 02:35:58
I agree Firmino was a problem but what other side in the PL wouldn't have had a CB or the GK attacking that ball? Defensive setups is a problem perhaps, but I'm pretty sure Klopp hasn't ever said 'Why don't we have Firmino cover the most dangerous area in the box on his own'



11 Aug 2017 16:54:44
I might have this wrong but I suspect at the beginning of the window the plans were probably for Brandt, Keita, a new LB and perhaps VVD to join, and perhaps expectations already formed that Coutinho would probably want to leave if Barcelona came knocking.

Can I just say what a c*ck up its been, from VVD tapping up, to misjudging RBL willingness to sell Keita, to opening the dialogue with Barcelona on a Coutinho only to go back on things at the 11th hour, only to see a transfer request go in.

I know Salah is technically a ready made replacement for Coutinho so we'll carry on regardless, but I can't believe we are where we are now, and to get into the CL and then to end up in this situation re: transfers to me shows a level of inexperience or incompetence that needs to be addressed. we haven't strengthened, and we haven't added necessary depth if Coutinho leaves. We've also barely addressed the challenges at FB and we certainly haven't addressed the challenges at CB.

How did the transfer committee even go into discussions with Barcelona without knowing Klopp wouldn't entertain any departure?

I really don't want to see panic buys but we really need to see things pick up from here before the window is out.




08 Aug 2017 20:58:03
Question for Eds - I think it's been said before but I assume the club (and other clubs) actively monitor these sorts of forums for a sense check of what the general mood is among the fanbase on key issues?

Are you ever aware of fans views ever being taken into account as even a small factor on major transfer decisions?


{Ed025's Note - i would not think so zimbo, managers never think they are wrong and dont take a lot of notice of what anyone says mate..



30 Jul 2017 19:09:53
Quick question for Eds - regarding squad depth, how do you think the transfer window is panning out and is Klopp OK with where we stand?

From my perspective, obvious gaps last year seemed to be

Striker - mostly due to Sturridge injuries but we're we'll stocked now

Wing - looked short when Mane left for AFCON but better stocked now with Salah., if Coutinho drops deeper or leaves though we may end up playing Firmino or a striker out wide if we have any injuries?

Midfield - We have a strong midfield and if Hendo remains fit, Grujic can step up and Coutinho drops deeper, we feel well covered. With both Lucas and Stewart leaving though is Klopp still desperate to add 1 more, or is Keita just more of an opportunistic target?

FB - last year we were a bit short but feels well stocked now with Andy coming in and TAA another year older

CB - this one worries me with first choices just about OK, but Klavan looking to have plenty of mistakes in him and Gomez still to prove himself. Given we played Lucas a lot at CB last year, is Klopp really going to be happy to call it quits if we can't get VVD?

GK - Fine there, if anything feels overstocked given Ward. would rather he got gametime on loan. does Klopp plan to keep him?

With all the extra games this season just wondering how we feel about squad depth given the problems we had last season around the turn of the year.



{Ed002's Note - The issue is that the manager has not gotten any of the players he wanted so a rethink is needed. Some of the youngsters were told opportunities would come (e.g. Ojo) but it never happened. Regardless, the squad is constrained by numbers but there is still a little work to do.}

1.) 30 Jul 2017 19:47:11
Thanks Ed, sounds like maybe a couple more incomings then subject to available targets and a few departures or loans being organised for the likes of Markovic, Ojo etc. CB is really the only problem area I think we have left personally.

2.) 30 Jul 2017 22:01:01
With 36 players on the 1st team roster (as per the LFC website) we have to sell or loan 12 players out before the window shuts. To me, that means the probable candidates for sales/ loans are Bogdan, Ward, Sakho, Moreno, Flanagan, Brannagan, Kent, Markovic, Ojo, Allan, Ings and Taiwo Awoniyi. It seems like a hell of a lot of work to do in the coming 5 weeks.

And if you throw in the possible departures of Coutinho and Can, and the new arrivals that everyone is clamoring for (like VVD or Ox) or replacements, then the picture becomes even more complicated for Mr. Edwards.

3.) 30 Jul 2017 23:52:11
I've made a mistake in the above reply. We need to have a roster of 25 players, therefore only 11 need to go from the mentioned list. I'd keep Ings.

4.) 31 Jul 2017 05:28:13
and actually some of the younger ones do not get counted as the 25 and can be in the squad. So there is no way we need to sell or loan out anything like 11 players. You know Klopp's view is that in general it is better to be part of the squad than go out on loan.

5.) 31 Jul 2017 22:35:34
Iconic - Which younger ones are you referring to? Care to give some examples? The LFC website, which I used as reference, lists the first team and the U23's separately.




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04 Mar 2018 14:42:38
I really like Ox, but just as he wasn't rubbish when he came it, he's not the messiah now either. He's had a couple of really good games, and I like his direct runs from midfield, but let's not get carried away and compare him to Coutinho or Salah just yet! Some people are way to quick to judge someone too harshly or declare players world class.

BTW I'm loving the team as it stands now. VVD, Robertson and Karius have made a huge difference at the back. TAA is playing really well too. Our midfield seems to be settling in much better with Hendo fit again, Ox adapting, Milner playing well, and our front 3 is just incredible. I think we're in really good shape going into the back end of the season.




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10 Dec 2017 14:04:28
I don't mind Solanke starting but why against Everton? Surely West Brom would make more sense? And why Milner and Ox in midfield? Hope I'm wrong but it looks a bit of a gamble to me to make so many changes in a Derby where they're bound to come out firing.




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12 Aug 2017 06:48:02
Cobra, our wingers this season are going to be Mane and Salah so we don't need a like for like replacement, we just need a player that we think will strengthen the squad. If we got Matuidi, Hendo and Matuidi at base of midfield would be an awesome combo, freeing up Lallana and Gini to play further forward.

The point is we have the freedom to rethink how we shape the team, and we should be bringing in the best player that improves the overall squad. We still have the midfield combo of Hendo/ Gino/ Lallana that was so effective last year remember, so it's not even prescriptive a new recruit even needs to be in midfield IMO. Could potentially be a world class striker like Lewa and dropping Firmino into no.10 (I know never going to happen, just making a point) .




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12 Aug 2017 03:53:44
I think it should be that Liverpool takes a few days to explore whether there is a realistic chance of signing a top player we'd be happy with - perhaps Keita again for even more money, or Max Meyer, or someone PSG needs to sell (like Matuidi. ) and if we can still strengthen the squad before end of the window then let Couts go. Better for everyone's reputation

If we can't get a player with sufficient quality to strengthen midfield or at striker (so Firmino can drop deeper) then he stays and hope he understands the situation and knuckles down like Suarez did.

I'm worried that unlike Suarez who was turned down from joining Arsenal, Coutinho is being refused from his ultimate dream. Given how strongly he clearly feels now, we should not be blocking that move unless we really have zero choice.




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11 Aug 2017 18:42:36
Please god no. with that haircut looks like that thing from the predator movie. Max Meyer would be a good shout even if not at Coutinho's level yet.





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04 Feb 2018 04:29:56
One good game and it's a new era? Arsenal is classically inconsistent, capable of thrashing Everton and then losing to just about the following week. I can't see that changing until they resolve the Wenger situation.




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04 Feb 2018 04:27:58
I suspect the club brought in Ox partly because they knew Coutinho was likely to leave and so depending the squad made sense. While I believe they would have liked to bring in someone else in Jan, they certainly didn't feel any need to panic buy if their primary targets weren't available, and I fully expect someone to come in over the summer.

I also think you're taking this far too literally, there are lots of other players in the team, it's not always necessary (or possible) to replace like for like. especially someone with Coutinho's quality. They certainly aren't viewing this as pocketing the difference.




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11 Nov 2017 12:47:00
We brought in Salah which effectively replaces where he used to play on the wing, and Ox who can cover at wing or midfield, and Keita who will be coming next season to start in the box-to-box role.

I think if he leaves in January, it would be a shame, but I see no point in bringing in someone else just for 6 months until Keita joins. just let Gini / Lallana start and then use Can as backup, and Milner / Grujic if necessary.

The biggest problems we have are still at CB, and once Can leaves we will be short in deep midfield. We should focus on bringing in a CB in January and then a defensive midfield in the summer and I'm fairly happy. Quality over Quantity please!




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05 Nov 2017 15:23:47
Agree - he’s not my pick but he doesn’t deserve getting panned every week even if he does OK.




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17 Oct 2017 10:44:53
A good post Putney, well thought out and I agree for the most part. A loss to Man Utd would have really put the cat amongst the pigeons but as it is, the team knows they were realistically the only team that could have won, and a well deserved clean sheet too, and that's a big confidence boost vs. where we were before the game (and worth a lot in the long run if we can build on it) .

At the end of the day, we all need to recognise that setting up with the kind of balanced side required for clean sheets, is by definition going to limit your chances against a side as good as Man Utd. despite that we had a few good opportunities to win it, with De Gea's save, Salah's miss off the boot of Coutinho and Can's touch a few of the notable ones, not to mention a couple of headers from corners.

It is something I am happy to see from Klopp and if we can continue to play like that consistently, cut out stupid goals, and Mane, Salah, Firmino, Coutinho and Lallana can get back on form we'll still score more than enough to be a force to be reckoned with.